Peter Push
Quote: LisaNeAlisa
if to order, then a large bowl is better, but they are almost the same in size ...
Albina, definitely. Choose between 020 (060) and induction. To start earning, you first need to invest. I wish you success!
kseniya D
Miranda, Well, as always!!! I put everything on the shelves, showed it, cool! Thank you
Miranda
Quote: Peter Push
and yet, as in Sense, nozzles are a cube KAH400PL, a meat grinder KAH950ME, there is also an adapter KAT002EM.

It is written there? Oh, sorry.

But in the photo I did not see the adapter in the kit, but they put them to the Sens and Titans, they show in the photo.

Let's wait. Ukrainian officials say they expect it in April. Probably it will appear before the summer.

I liked the mixer from the new pre-mixer, something that can be used simultaneously with beaters with mixers, but I want to see.
LenaPena)
Miranda, Thank you for your congratulations!!!
Quote: Miranda
you know I'm meticulous
For example, I am very grateful that all the information on the shelves is laid out and "served on a platter"
Miranda
Peter Push, the same low-speed socket as in Sens.
You're right.

Googled here one French woman, a lover of gadgets and cooking, she has several Kenwoods - Sense, the 90th series of cooking and now this Gourmet. The new one praises very much, and wrote about the AT attachments that the adapter - 🔗

She already has many recipes there, she cooks a lot in it, using the temperature. But I will not give links, there she has all the links on the left. It's a pity the video does not shoot. And it’s a pity that I don’t know French, she willingly answers questions in the comments under the recipes with the 90 series and Gourmet.

But here's what else I noticed.
The bowl in the new Gourmet is different!

Notches of some kind.
And an incomprehensible piece in the configuration - it is attached to the bowl in order to clean something.

Kenwood kitchen machines

Here you can see too

Yesterday it seemed to me that the K-shaped is thinner, and now it seems

Kenwood kitchen machines
Kenwood kitchen machines


About the notches, I have such a version - so that the steam comes out.

I once wrote that if the lid is on and the window on the lid is closed, then the steam starts to break through the crack between the two lids, and gets on the motor.

The lid, by the way, is also different. The feed window is larger.

Kenwood kitchen machines

Neo
Colleagues, I'm telling you news from the fields. that is, about my trip with the adapter :) I apologize in advance for the multi-letters, there is a lot of information!

I will repeat right away, so that anyone above my ahs does not read, understand what it is about - on Monday I became the "unhappy" owner of a sensation on the action m video (6 attachments). Unfortunate because promotional nozzles are put into a low-speed socket through an adapter and they simply did not fit into it!
As a result, today I took my adapter and gearbox from the cube cutter and went to m-video. They met me there kindly, looked at my parts and confirmed that yeah - not included :) We took a demo adapter (from the car they use in the store) - included. We got a new adapter out of the box from another machine - again not included !!! More precisely, it enters, but with difficulty. And finally, only the third adapter came up, and then only after they smeared its insides with vegetable oil! So, apparently, it turned out that this is not such a rare problem .. It is strange that they do not check them in production ...

And now some nice information for those who are thinking about buying! This morning I went to the m-video site and found that now ALL promotional attachments cost 5990! All that I bought on Monday for 9990! Of course, I almost had a heart attack, because 4 expensive nozzles from my kit gave out a price difference of 16,000! At the same time, I read before that that the "best price guarantee" does not apply to this promotion .. However, they have another program - an exchange without problems (ie.exchange or refund within 30 days) Well, having received a new adapter, I said without batting an eye that I wanted to return my entire kit and buy it at a new price :) Oddly enough, there were no problems, although I was tuned in that it would not work out easily .. As a result, they issued me a refund and having paid only 2 thousand to the original price, I received 3 more attachments! (which were originally 9990) - dough sheeter, noodle cutter and ice cream maker. So now I'm almost complete :)) All I have left is a juicer, a citrus press, and I'm thinking about a low-speed grater ..

Initially, I wanted to take a juicer and a press, but while we were waiting for the re-registration, the consultant girl kindly offered to conduct microns on dough and cutting noodles and we liked it so much that we decided to take 2 unplanned nozzles :)

In general, I am pleased with the result of communication with m-video, they did not lose face.
The only thing that sharpens me now is that today they put cars with a glass bowl in the action .. My original Wishlist. But here it was already impossible to wish anything .. So I will calm down :) So I think I was very lucky with the purchase :)

So now I definitely accept congratulations :)

p. from. the consultants in the m-video are shocked by what happened to the price and where this attraction of unheard-of generosity comes from - it turns out a machine for 45 thousand "naked" now with 6 expensive attachments will cost 36 thousand .. What kind of communism :)))
Peter Push
Miranda, I fully subscribe to the previous speaker - thank you very much for the ability to collect and submit information
I, too, were K-shaped and the hook seemed thinner, but maybe the pictures are like that ...
Miranda, and how do you personally all these innovations, would you like them for yourself?
lou
NeoIt turns out that the faulty adapter was a sign from above! And you were so upset. Congratulations!
Peter Push
Quote: Neo
So now I definitely accept congratulations
Neo, after all, how good is that which ends well. I think that someone upstairs needed that you would not overpay .... And buy a glass bowl over time, having 2 bowls is very good. In short, congratulations and best congratulations!
LisaNeAlisa
Quote: Neo
now with 6 expensive attachments it will cost 36 thousand. Some kind of communism :)))
I rushed to look, wanted to knock out my friend, but we do not have all the nozzles for 5990 ... anyway I will try to carry out agitation ...
Neo
Thank you very much:)))
Now it turns out that I already have a second bowl - from an ice cream maker. I think she will also be in use ..


Added Friday 03 Feb 2017 6:05 pm

LisaNeAlisa, is it not in your m-video? It's just that in the m-video, other attachments are also sold out of stock, but I haven’t watched them and I don’t know what the price is .. And now all the promotions are at this price.
Although it is possible in the regions somewhere and in the online store different prices?
Autumn Girl
Quote: Albinka (Alya)

Girls, please tell me the choice! How we settled here on the forum, of course I wanted a kitchen machine, I read a lot here and decided that only Kenya was needed. But I just can't decide on the model, the large bowl is not particularly suitable, there is nowhere to accelerate, and my husband is shouting, where else is this colossus! I am now carried away by confectionery and plan to make custom-made cakes in the future, but for these purposes I mostly take! I have a good meat grinder and blender, so I think to take it without attachments.
In general, I looked after 57002 and 5000 Sens, and I'm still thinking about 050. I wanted to order 050 on CU, but it's even scary. So I'm going crazy with the choice.

Here at the flea market, the almost new 060 is on sale at a good price. I fight the toad myself and persuade myself that I don't need a second one
VeraS
Neo, congratulations! It's really true that what is not being done is not being done for the better
MirandaThank you so much for the informative posts. very informative and easy to read
Albinka (Alya), take with a large bowl. We have a very small kitchen in a 4.5 kV Khrushchev and I was also afraid of a big cache, but he stood up like a native. Now I think that a small bowl would not be enough for me.
Albinka (Alya)
Autumn Girl, what model do you have?
Bijou
Quote: Neo
And finally, only the third adapter came up, and then only after they smeared its insides with vegetable oil!
Now at home, try to wash this oil out of there with something synthetic. At least silicone grease, even WD, even oil from a sewing machine. Because the vegetable oil inside the mechanisms is not a good thing for their health. Especially if the oil is like sunflower, nidaiboh.

Congratulations on such a successful ending to the hassle. It was a Token, not otherwise. )))
LenaPena)
Neo, Congratulations! It was definitely a Token!
Girls, in the group on Instagram, where I registered today, played 3 today! chef cooking !!! now someone has fallen asleep


Added Friday 03 Feb 2017 07:03 PM

Maybe now the nozzles will play ...
Autumn Girl
Quote: Albinka (Alya)

Autumn Girl, what model do you have?
I have a cooking chef. He lived in a dacha, but brought him to Moscow, now he settled here. It's a pity to drag here and there
LenaPena)
Maybe someone will find the thread useful, a man of km 010 with attachments sells an ice cream maker, a juicer, a meat grinder, a blender for 11000r. I looked at the ice cream maker, and the cache jumped out, it is not indicated in the text that it is Kenwood and in the search for a second one on km010, it also did not give out, so I again wrote "ice cream maker" in the search and looked through it, found it. I don't know if it's expensive or not, it writes in perfect condition ...
Miranda
Neo, wow, that's really - there was no happiness, but misfortune helped!
It's great that it happened.
And the problem was solved, and for 2 thousand 3 more nozzles turned out!
Just be stunned how you ended up

Congratulations!
Quote: Neo
ALL promotional attachments cost 5990!

Even the website shows this price.
Girls who wanted a high-speed grater-slicer 340, that is the time for 6 thousand. At CU it costs 7 + delivery, and at the usual time for 10-11 or from hands, but hardly cheaper than 6 thousand.

It's a pity that I can't convince myself that I really need her.
I still need to read the topic with nozzles.
***

Quote: Peter Push
I, too, were k-shaped and the hook seemed thinner, but maybe the pictures are like that ...
Miranda, how do you personally like all these innovations, would you like them for yourself?

The hook, of course, lost weight, can be seen with the naked eye.
He's just different.

I think that when the owners of Gourmet appear, it will be like with a whisk - which is better, fluffy from 020/060 or induction fortified. And many will want to have two hooks, just as they would like / want to have two whisks.

But for rye dough, I would prefer a thick hook.
Although, here you have to look at how it works. The same in the new Titans. What if he's better?
K-shaped in all the photos looks thinner, but suddenly an optical illusion.

I still don't understand why at all offices. photo and video bowl without notches? Why at the office. video filmed old hook, not new?

That a bowl with grooves was seen only by a French woman, and it was discussed at the Italian forum

there are a lot of comments, you can google translator who is interested

🔗

By the way, about Italians, they are actively concerned with the problem of translating text on the screen and in the application for a smartphone / tablet with recipes. Like, why do they need French and will it be Italian.

They also discuss that the price of 1300 is good, but of. the Italian price will be higher, and whether to order in France (there was some kind of promotion for 1 thousand euros at the end of last year)

I also think that we have either from English / French. text will be, or not soon because of the translation. Not to mention the book of recipes in Russian.


I would like to - I don't know.

I liked the following things:
- on / off button, you can not pull from the network
- if the new mixer really works in tandem with a whisk / k-shaped / hook (many people write about this, but have not been able to google it yet), then I like it too
- recesses for steam on the bowl, because I open the window on the lid all the time so that steam does not go into the motor, and a lot of steam leaves through the window
- more temperature
- more programs with stops (not only (2) and (3))

Didn't like:
- that for the accumulated under the low-speed one will need an adapter
- that too much with electronics and the feeling that this is a slow cooker, although if you have solved the problem with steam, you can cook more actively, but somehow I do not perceive Kenwood as a cooking machine, and although there is a "casserole" program there, I can hardly imagine it in such a bowl, i.e. such a shape at the exit
- that there will be a language problem, Italians are right in their fears of usability in a foreign language

What is not clear and I would like to know:
- about the new hook
- is there a button to turn on the temperature without stirring, because now there are 9 programs with stops, maybe there are no spinners among them at all
That is, while there are no answers to my questions, I do not understand I would like a purely theoretical new car. Practically - I just can't want her, because not a millionaire

But with the information that we have, the feeling that there is no sense for me personally to change Cooking Chef to Cooking Chef Gourmet, because I don't see Kenwood as a cooking device. Have a temperature for some processes - yes, like cooking - I don't know.

I also thought that it’s good that I didn’t buy a second iron bowl, now I want it with grooves. True, I was not going to buy an iron second one soon, while I want a plastic one this year.
LenaPena)
And I want plastic.
Peter Push
Quote: Miranda
K-shaped in all the photos looks thinner, but suddenly an optical illusion
Miranda, the last result of crawling on their sites, k-shaped in the new KW 712205 too, I don't know what to say ... While there is little information, you have to wait, you saw the KW 711659 hook on the new one ... I won't say anything about the hook, I didn’t see him at work, but he’s hardly better than ours, this is my opinion.
And the plastic bowl recommended for them is the same as it was.
Now, if I had a need for an induction machine, I would take 096. What attracted me about the new one is that you can additionally use two nozzles, but over time, I think, no more than a year, it will be possible to replace this part in 096 with a part with a new one and buy this little thing and another black one.
Miranda
Peter Push, uz you, the detail would be replaced straight.
I would be afraid.
Neo
Quote: Miranda
who wanted a high-speed grater-slicer 340, then the same time for 6 thousand. It's a pity that I can not convince myself that I really need it.
I still need to read the topic with nozzles.

Of course, I have little experience and I'm still more of a theorist. But I tried it, and to whom how - such a grater is much more convenient for me than a combine. I have a harvester, gathering dust on the shelf khe ... 17 years old:) 0 They gave it to the wedding :)) Well, I took it out several times and then put it back. Now I will give it to someone at all.
It's awful to empty the bowl all the time. Well, what can you cut there - a bowl of vegetables .. And then at least substitute the tank :)))
I'm absolutely delighted. And how she cut everything for me - I have never seen anything like this before just ..
A chic onion in rings (here you probably won't surprise anyone with this, but I was ready to cut a bucket straight, if only the process would not end :)))
Cucumbers and not very hard tomatoes for salad !!
And today, it's funny to say - I bought a head of cabbage, just to cut it :)) Why don't I know .. I can make a hodgepodge .. Or a spring salad. I hope that this unfortunate salad will now work out for me (such as in kebabs they usually sell for kebabs) - I love it sooo much, but I never got it precisely because of cabbage slicing .. when sliced ​​manually, it is clublike, whatever one may say .. ...
Uncles in kebabs cut with a burner (or something like him), but I don't have such a grater, and somehow I didn't need it, and I was sorry for the money ...
LisaNeAlisa
And to me, it's scary to say, 4 neighbors periodically go to shred cabbage ... it's my mother who boasted about how we fermented a bucket of cabbage in 40 minutes ... I also really like AT340. He combines it for one time, for a salad, for a soup ...
Although, for cabbage soup and borscht, I also wrapped blanks from 340m.
LenaPena)
Well, you are tempting ... where to pick some money)))
Rituslya
Quote: LenaPena)
where to pick some money)))
here for me, so the penultimate money for this car is definitely not necessary to give. And generally speaking!
And in general, if you are a passionate culinary pastry chef, then you can compete for desire, but so ...
Give me back my euphoria! Something was blown away ...
Neo
Quote: Rituslya
for me, the penultimate money for this car definitely does not need to be given
Today I thought to take the difference in price with money .. and then I thought - I won't buy it right away and it will be postponed, new Wishlist and urgent needs will appear.
and so almost everything will be :) and bought with a margin
In the end, they wrote correctly here - people buy phones for 70 thousand ..or jewelry :) And this is a useful thing for the whole family for a long time!
Rituslya
Quote: Neo
And this is a useful thing for the whole family for a long time!
Probably useful.
If someone would return something to someone, and I would suddenly inadvertently hurry up, then I would buy TM with extra money ...
And so ... pay 30 thousand for a kneader ?!
How expensive!

Bijou
Quote: Rituslya
And so ... pay 30 thousand for a kneader ?!
How expensive!
The experienced Rituslya said, who has ... how many, two? Or three?
eye
Quote: Rituslya
Give me back my euphoria!
Rita, on:
today, hugging a squeaking lump of yeast dough with my palms, I thought that you can live your life, but you can't see such a dough ... I've never seen it before, and in fact, probably more than half of my life is behind. I like Kesha. I didn't have to get used to it. Sympathy. Acceptance. Trying to understand. It's already understood what the girls meant when they talked about the dough frame. I feel the developed gluten with my hands, with difficulty dividing it into portions)))

And I can't help but share: when proving in a bowl, I cover it with a disposable shower cap, it is elastic and not tight, so you can slightly deepen it in the center and leave it heated, and the mixer does not cling to the nest.
kseniya D
Valeria, you are very lucky that it all turned out that way. You will not regret a second, considering at what price you got the attachments. You will receive pleasure, it cannot be otherwise.
I just can't imagine how I once did without Kesha. I use it every day and more than once, and most importantly, with great pleasure.
Rituslya
Bijou, no, Lenus, I now have one Ken and one small Boshik.
I love Boshik. Boshik is such a mask that decreases on the corner of the table. I would buy a model better now
And while you unfold the other pretzel, prepare it, wash it, and in general all desires disappear, and I don't have any more. Healthy like that.
eye,Tanechka, please write a recipe. I want it too! You are welcome! It doesn't really matter to me what the dough is, I will adapt.
VetaS78
girls, and if you choose between these models - price / quality / functionality, which one should you choose? I do not understand by induction - is this function needed and why?
🔗

Kenwood KMM 060 Major Titanium

Kenwood KM 094 Cooking Chef

Kenwood KMC 050 Chef Titanium

LisaNeAlisa
Kenwood KMM 060 and 050 Major Titanium are the same, only 050 has a small bowl

Kenwood KM 094 Cooking Chef with Induction and Large Bowl

It depends on what and for what price you found. If from Russia, then I'd take induction, although I'm very happy with my 020 caches)
Air
Neo, Valeria, that's for sure, everything that is not done is for the better)))
Congratulations on such a wonderful development of events.
Miranda
Quote: Rituslya
Give me back my euphoria! Something was blown away ...

Rit, maybe you can sell everything, and when you are not there again, will you want to again?

But how many I didn’t read about TM, yielding to the reviews here, how many didn’t watch the video, I didn’t understand why I would have it. The bowl is small, the stick is in the center, but as it turned out, I don't like that.

***

Quote: VetaS78
price / quality / functionality, which one should you choose?

If you focus on the store that gave the link, then 050 is the most expensive.
Moreover, with the smallest bowl.

And if you choose between 060 and 094 with the same bowl, then there are questions.
094 is 500 hryvnia more expensive, and by 060 a food processor is given for the stock, while 094 has better induction, a timer and a hook, etc. - it's difficult.

But nozzles can be bought over time, and induction cannot be bought. Well, what about 500 hryvnia for you, a very big difference or tolerable.

But I am in favor of induction on this comparison.
Rituslya
No, Miranda, I sell everything without regret, so it is unlikely that I will be sad afterwards.

Although ... Here. Cooked pasta in a slow cooker, but no. Not at all. Ken cooks a hundred times better.
What is really cunning when the truth is truth everywhere! Ken the Pasta Maker!
eye
Quote: Rituslya
Ken the Pasta Maker!
nothing sacred!
I sincerely do not understand why, if there is a gas stove and a saucepan, cook pasta in electrical appliances?
kseniya D
Quote: Miranda
But how many I didn’t read about TM, yielding to the reviews here, how many didn’t watch the video, I didn’t understand why I would have it.
So I, too, still do not understand all the charm. I did several approaches to the topic, but did not get into it
But I dreamed about Ken for several years and he met all my expectations.
Miranda
Quote: Rituslya
No, Miranda, I sell everything without regret, so I’ll hardly start feeling sad afterwards.

For me, it's okay if you wanted something theoretically, and then didn't like it and sold it. Look how many Tortilla appeared on the Flea market a short time after the purchase. And how many unnecessary little things I have lying around, which I want, I want, I received and where they are.

***
And about 340

Well, that's only when I think about sauerkraut. And even in the summer I didn't think, I didn't regret it, so I can't find the motivation to spend 6 thousand so far, although this is the lowest price for all the time that I look somewhere for how much new dresses to Kenwood, that is, somewhere in a year + - ...
VetaS78
Quote: LisaNeAlisa

Kenwood KMM 060 and 050 Major Titanium are the same, only 050 has a small bowl

Kenwood KM 094 Cooking Chef with Induction and Large Bowl

It depends on what and for what price you found. If from Russia, then I would take induction, although I am very happy with my 020 caches)

I'm from Ukraine. At prices it turns out like that -

060 - 715 dollars
050 - 860 dollars
094 - 730 dollars

Why is induction needed? I don't understand the need for this function ...

If 050 and 060 are the same, then the price difference is impressive ...
Miranda
Quote: ok
Why, if you have a gas stove and a saucepan, cook pasta in electrical appliances?

Here I am!
It's easier for me, faster on the gas stove.

kseniya D, I will subscribe to every word!
Several approaches to TM and did not understand it, but I dreamed about Ken for a very long time, fell in love in advance and now it is stronger every day. My means
***
Quote: VetaS78
I'm from Ukraine. At prices it turns out like that -

I understand in hryvnia, and I know the price for them, because every month I pay a communal apartment for Ukrainian relatives, but that's it.
Quote: VetaS78
If 050 and 060 are the same

Not exactly the same, 050 has a smaller bowl. And the attachments that are associated with the size of the bowl are also smaller - a hook, a whisk, etc., an ice cream maker and a sieve are a little different.

But in terms of functionality, yes, they are the same.

Induction is needed for different things, I personally do it in it:
- choux pastry
- Genoese biscuit
- biscuit on boiling water
- boiling water dough for dumplings
- I distribute the dough
- cream mascarpone
- whisk the yolks on heating
- in the summer I did a lot of vegetables from caviar to sauté

Anything else.

Check out the recipe topic
Recipes using the Kenwood Kitchen Machine

or here is a good selection of recipes with cookingchefexp.livejourn induction al.com

Are you doing any of this? Would you like?
After seeing what you can do and deciding whether you need it or not, you can decide whether or not induction is necessary.
Air
VetaS78, induction is needed for those who prepare dishes that need to be heated and mixed / whipped at the same time (béchamel, custard, etc.)
There is also a timer in induction, which also shows how long you are cooking. It turned out to be very helpful for me.
For example, I beat some products in time, it's more convenient for me.

While typing the message, Miranda has already answered you)
kseniya D
Yes, I also knead the dough with a timer, and I myself do other things.
Peter Push
Quote: VetaS78
girls, and if you choose between these models - price / quality / functionality, which one should you choose? I do not understand by induction - is this function needed and why?
🔗

Kenwood KMM 060 Major Titanium

Kenwood KM 094 Cooking Chef

Kenwood KMC 050 Chef Titanium
VetaS78 , well, we not only sell cars in such an expensive store. Look at 🔗... Pay attention to the new line of machines Titanium Chef.
If you wrote what and how much (by volume) you are going to do, it would be easier to advise. Good luck.


Added Saturday 04 Feb 2017 00:22

Quote: Miranda
I understand in hryvnia, and I know the price for them, because every month I pay a communal apartment for Ukrainian relatives, but that's it.
Quote: Miranda
And about 340
Well, that's only when I think about sauerkraut.
Miranda, here for me the ideal of sauerkraut, and the same in borscht - long so that it hangs from a fork, so I use a grater.
Miranda
But I use a timer not only to measure the cooking time, although it turned out to be extremely convenient - I know how much time to stir the proteins, how much dough, how much coffee to grind, etc.

I also like to set the time, and then the countdown and stops. I can go to another room - it will squeak and stop when the set time ends.

All this is of course possible with any external timer.
Just convenience.
Air
I really like the countdown when I make ice cream. I put all the ingredients in the ice cream bowl, set the time and do other things.
And after 30 minutes. the harvester will turn itself off and call for ice cream
zvezda
MirandaThanks for the nice review of the new car !! I, too, oh how ... but where else ?? but interesting ... from Spain or France to bring it to the house really ???
Valeria!!!!! No wonder I smoked ... 🔗
Miranda
zvezda, I see no point in buying such a car abroad.

Because of the text on the screen, in the book, instructions, in the application to the smartphone - it will be difficult in a foreign language.

Because of the chip with a lifetime warranty on the motor, I deducted from the Italians that for this you need to register the purchase, since many bought in Fr. then register there, and worried about the service.

And to dream about it is also premature.
I would like to sweat, more reviews, etc.

In ukr. I read on Facebook that they plan to start selling in April. And they are planning presentations. That would have started or at least had a presentation! I'm just planning to go to Kiev in April, if only it works out.
anna_k
The new Kesha is wonderful! Perhaps it is worth dreaming about it.
In the fall, I still did not give in to the super-low price for the induction one and did not change it, which would also entail replacing all the nozzles.
I will slowly wait for the appearance of a new handsome man in the Russian Federation.

And yet it is a pity that they do not release the induction bowl 4.6 ((((

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