Margit
Quote: RICHes

Maybe Ardo look closely?
I had Ardo, white, size 60/60. I suffered with it for many years, and the bottom burned, and in the oven, for no reason or no reason, the gas went out and did not re-ignite until the oven stopped. The inscriptions were all erased in the first year. I didn’t think I’ll buy Ardo again, but I fell for a new product. I bought it and now I'm just happy, it's an excellent stove!
Sandy
Quote: Roza_Irina

Hello girls! User Wasp Kindly asked me to share my impressions of the gas stove, suddenly someone will help in choosing. I have a stove Kaiser HGG 64521 KR, 🔗... I have been using it since August. I am very pleased, the oven is excellent, everything that I try to bake: baked goods, meat, casseroles, everything turns out great. The only thing that I tried to make pies on their own baking sheet, the bottom was already fried, the top was all white, but the pies were baked. I just bake in my baking trays, molds that I've tested over the years. Before that there was De'Longhi, served for 14 years, the thermostat in the oven was covered, I had to change the stove, although it was also super. I will be glad if I could help with something.
I also have a Kaiser, but a slightly different Kaiser HGG 60511 MB, for about 7 years already, she's probably also very happy, of course there are drawbacks, but there are more advantages. I have no complaints about the oven, I also like the large size of the stove and, accordingly, the oven. It strains the mirror surfaces to wash, if I took a plate now, then without these surfaces, and the color is dark brown, every speck is white better.
Oca
Quote: Roza_Irina

Before that there was De'Longhi, served for 14 years, the thermostat in the oven was covered, I had to change the stove, although it was also super. I will be glad if I could help with something.
Thank you! I will know what to look for a replacement. Mom also has old Delongy, but diagonally one corner is constantly burning, the other is not baked. No thermostat concept
shelma
Good day, I wanted to say I recently bought a combined hansa stove, while I was baking for the fourth time, everything is baked perfectly and it turns out. I suffered with the choice of the stove for three years. The only thing you need to buy in the oven is a thermometer, I wonder what the temperature is.
shelma
Quote: RICHes

Congratulations on your purchase! Why did you decide to buy Hans?
Thank you
Quote: RICHes

Congratulations on your purchase! Why did you decide to buy Hans?
I had an old gas stove, I practically did not use an oven in it. We chose a silver color to match our technique. The gasman came and asked him what kind of stove he would recommend in our market. He said, take the mora made by the Czech Republic, but they are all white, but what about the burning, we asked, they take a lot for their brand, many others that are not worse in quality and an order of magnitude cheaper, imported ones do not fit our gas, but buy imported one, they will connect you, but the declared functions will not work in full, since they are not calculated for us, so we were told. Based on this, they chose. We stopped at Hansa made in Poland (everything is closer to us, somehow), my husband wanted gas, and I wanted a combined one, so they argued for three years. I have an airfryer at home, well, and other equipment, so I wanted an electric oven, I think baking will always work out there, I did not lose, now I will make a duck for Christmas as I dreamed
shelma
Yesterday, for the first time, we tried to make a grilled chicken on a spit (we must check all the functions), it turned out well, the whole family watched how to spin and grill. Prepared 1.5 kg chicken on the forced grill mode at a temperature of 250, for 100 minutes (1.5 hours) - as recommended in the instructions for the stove. The smallest (4 years old) taster said delicious, I want more.
Mona1
Quote: shelma

Yesterday, for the first time, we tried to make a grilled chicken on a spit (it is necessary to check all the functions), it turned out well, the whole family watched how it was spun and fried. Prepared 1.5 kg chicken on the forced grill mode at a temperature of 250, for 100 minutes (1.5 hours) - as recommended in the instructions for the stove. The smallest (4 years old) taster said delicious, I want more.
Sveta, chicken, of course delicious, but you probably won't want to wash the whole oven after it, especially since you have an AG, where the chicken is drop dead, but there are fewer problems with cleaning. I also have AG and I make meat in the oven only in foil, and so - in AG. And the oven is for bread, pastries, all kinds of casseroles, pots and other things closed. And she, my beauty, is so clean. After the first Chicken on the bottle, I swore to make open meat in it, or rather, after washing.
Sandy
Quote: shade

Peace be with you bakers!
and we wrapped the oven with foil - here
And how did you fasten it on top and on the sides
shelma
Quote: Mona1

Sveta, chicken, of course delicious, but you probably won't want to wash the whole oven after it, especially since you have an AG, where the chicken is drop dead, but there are fewer problems with cleaning. I also have AG and I make meat in the oven only in foil, and so - in AG. And the oven is for bread, pastries, all kinds of casseroles, pots and other things closed. And she, my beauty, is so clean. After the first Chicken on the bottle, I swore to make open meat in it, or rather, after washing.
I chose a stove with catalytic cleaning, I just wiped it with a soft cloth and that's it, no problems: pardon: Before, I would not have dared to cook it in an old one, then wash it off for so long
And before, only in AG I did it in a baking bag, it's also tasty, but we liked it better in the oven, probably because everything was fried from all sides (spinning on a spit)
Taia
Quote: shade

Peace be with you bakers!
and we wrapped the oven with foil - here


To email this trick will not work in the oven.
Galleon-6
Tell me, if something is being cooked on the stove (gas hob), can you turn on the oven (electric oven) at the same time?
tatjanka
Quote: Goleon 6

Tell me, if something is being cooked on the stove (gas hob), can you turn on the oven (electric oven) at the same time?
It is not just possible, but even necessary. You can also cook more delicious treats!
Galleon-6
Thanks for the quick answer, that is, I understood correctly, if I bake in the oven, can I safely turn on the gas and turn on the kettle?
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
Sandi-as you fastened it on top and on the sides

yes, they just crushed it and just keeps on
well, we change it as needed
especially after grilled chicken
py sy - I have free foil
and we also line the table stove
Taia
Quote: Goleon 6

I understood correctly, if I bake in the oven, I can safely turn on the gas and put the kettle on?

Of course . Use everything at the same time.
I do not understand what and with what you are looking for a relationship.
Mouse-plump
Have a nice day, good people. I've been reading this section for a week and trying to choose a stove (I'm not terribly slow to read, it's just that there is absolutely no free time). For the last 3 years I have been using an electric stove, the most unpretentious Beko three-burner with a glass-ceramic surface, she now stands alone in the corridor and is waiting for a new owner or a place in the trash can ... But this is lyrics. But on business, we have moved, now there is gas in the house and the stove must be gas, there is a stove, but we need to change it, because she is older than me and it would be time for her to retire.
I got used to the electric oven and in every possible way I try to persuade my husband to buy a combined stove, so as not to torment me later, to which he answers me with a question:
1) Does such a plate need a reinforced socket? Or does it have a regular standard plug?
2) How much electricity does this electric oven consume? Does such a stove come with electricity bills for half the cost of the stove itself every month, if you cook in it at least every other day? I tried to find information in the instructions for the combined burner stove, so far to no avail, Class A and that says it all, as it says on the fence .. The site says that the connecting power is 2 kW, but it's hard to believe, 2 heating elements + grill + convection + etc., Yes, I can't believe it at all! or the connecting and consumed power are not the same, but inside the plate there is a transformer or "nanocatalyst" of some kind, and at night it flies and fights against criminals?
Eh, I'm afraid I'll have to take a gas oven all the same, and then shaman over it all my life
Mona1
Yes, you need a socket, and not just reinforced, but + with grounding on the shield. Like so. It is necessary to call an electrician to make such an outlet. But you have to hammer a groove in the walls from the outlet to the shield for the wire. In houses with electric stoves, such sockets are immediately installed. We have a house with gas, but the house was built back in Soviet times and in our kitchen, in addition to the usual outlet, there was already an outlet for a powerful consumer. So we didn't have to put it on.
By the way, grounding will have to be done, even if everything is gas (as in my combustion), but there is electric ignition of the burners. But, then the power outlet does not need to be grounded, but this is also the wiring to pull on the shield. Maybe, of course, after repairs, for example, you have grounded sockets. Then this will do.
I wanted to take Gorenie combined, my friend has one, she is very, very happy. And I was greedy to pay for an electrician and bought a gas Gorenie. The bottom is on, and the top is white, I already wrote here. Moreover, the gas control constantly freezes. Read a couple of pages ago it was written about this gas control. If you find a stove without it, then take it, otherwise this thing brings it to white heat. And in electro it is not. And the baking does not burn, there is uniform heating, convection can be turned on, but there is no gas convection. I suffered for three years with burnings, then I bought a clay tray for a flower pot (there are also special stones for baking, but they are expensive. By the way, one of the models of either stoves or ovens Gorene comes with such a stone in the kit. Oven Burning stone for pizza. Look what kind of stone it is. But, as people said, nothing special, ordinary clay. Many magicians buy unglazed clinker tiles. 30 * 30 cm or 33 * 33 and put it instead of a stone. The effect is this We have a separate branch for such stones for baking on the forum. If necessary, I will throw off the link in a personal, only in the evening, right now I run to work.
Vilapo
Quote: Plump mouse


I got used to the electric oven and I try in every possible way to persuade my husband to buy a combined stove so as not to torment me later, to which he answers me with a question:
1) Does such a plate need a reinforced socket? Or does it have a regular standard plug?
2) How much electricity does this electric oven consume? Does such a stove come with electricity bills for half the cost of the stove itself every month, if you cook in it at least every other day? I tried to find information in the instructions for the combined burner stove, so far to no avail, Class A and that says it all, as it says on the fence .. The site says that the connecting power is 2 kW, but it's hard to believe, 2 heating elements + grill + convection + etc., Yes, I can't believe it at all! or the connecting and consumed power are not the same, but inside the plate there is a transformer or "nanocatalyst" of some kind, and at night it flies and fights against criminals?
Eh, I'm afraid I'll have to take a gas oven all the same, and then shaman over it all my life
An electric oven is great, baking without hassle You will not pay much for the light, the power consumption of the oven can be 2-4 kW per hour. This is nothing more than a refrigerator, washing machine, el. teapot. If you are familiar with the principle of the oven, you understand that it is not turned on all the time. It is accepted that such devices as a stove, refrigerator, etc., should each have their own separate outlet.
The main thing is that the apartment has normal wiring, now all devices are electric ...
Taia
Quote: Plump mouse

Eh, I'm afraid I'll have to take a gas oven all the same, and then shaman over it all my life

Don't settle for gas. oven. There is no price for our nerves! And the gas. the oven is a complete hassle, it is very rare for anyone to bake well, or simply the owners do not know that it is possible to bake more comfortably. We have cheap gas, but electricity is expensive, and I use e-mail for a year. oven and never regretted my choice. Before that, there was always gas.
Look for leverage on your spouse, with the threat of completely refusing to bake! Spend for a new email. wiring to the stove in the end ...
LiudmiLka
Quote: Flaksia


Don't settle for gas. oven. There is no price for our nerves! And the gas. the oven is a sheer hassle, it is very rare for someone to bake well, or simply the owners do not know that it is possible to bake more comfortably. We have cheap gas, but electricity is expensive, and I use e-mail for a year. oven and never regretted my choice. Before that, there was always gas.
Look for leverage on your spouse, with the threat of completely refusing to bake! Spend for a new email. wiring to the stove in the end ...

Not so Look for the right gas stove (I wrote about mine in this thread a year or two ago - I have a Czech Mora with a gas oven of the "Russian stove" type). Everything in it is just super (TTT), and meringues, and biscuits, and seaming, and meat, and the bread is even better than in a real oven (compared using the same flour, yeast and recipe).
Taia
LiudmiLka
I still think you're lucky. I probably got unsuccessfully on the reviews, but I also came across bad reviews about the Sea.
My friend praised her gas all the time. stove Hephaestus, assured that the pastries in it are super. And when I decided to buy new kitchen furniture, I hesitated for a long time because of the oven whether to change the stove. As a result, I decided, I bought a built-in email. oven Ariston - now there is no limit to her delight and it turned out that her gas. The Hephaestus stove was not that good and the oven was far from super. Everything was learned in comparison.
Therefore, when they praise the gas. ovens, all the time I remember my friend and her story ...
Creamy
LiudmiLka , your truth, Mora's plates are considered the best. At Mora's friend, gas produced in 2002 bakes almost everything, I have Moravia combined in 2005, it does absolutely everything. But now they are no longer on sale.
Creamy
Flaksia , I have a Moravia combined-gas hob with gas control and an electric oven with convection and a timer.
Taia
And I have a combination cooker now. Experiences with two gas stoves. the oven was enough for me, for the third time I decided not to risk it.
AYaromashka
Dear BOSCH owners! we plan to buy a stove. Pts. like Bosch HGV 745325Ra Combined course. I read somewhere in the reviews that when you cook in the oven, the control panel supposedly heats up very much !! Is it true? and that the lighting in the oven is also very weak and over time, the paint on the spinners is supposedly erased ?! Although even in this thread have already written that Boshami are happy. I really don't know what to believe ...:: - \ Maybe it's better to buy an Electrolux? here they praised so much, but in our city you can't see normal stoves live - how we live in the last century
Taia
I have a Bosch HGV 745220 cooker.
Externally and in terms of parameters are almost the same.
I have been using it for exactly a year, the pens are safe and sound, nothing is erased on them, and there is not even a hint of it. When using the oven, the stove does not heat up very much externally, and the glass of the oven door, and the panel, and the side walls from the outside - you can safely hold your palm on them. There is normal lighting inside the oven, I have nothing to compare with, it is clear that they will not put a spotlight in the oven itself.
I haven't seen my stove live either, only on the internet. They brought it to me from a neighboring city. I was not disappointed, everything was done very well.
AYaromashka
How does the oven bake? and I don’t understand why there is simply no convection in Boch, there is some kind of 3D hot air, is it the same as convection?
Taia
The oven bakes well. I do not know why they wrote 3D, in my opinion this is ordinary convection.
AYaromashka
and they also write that gas enters the burners slowly and makes a lot of noise?
Mouse-plump
Quote: Mona1

... We have a separate thread on such stones for baking on the forum. If necessary, I will throw off the link in a personal, only in the evening, right now I'm running away to work.
Thank you, I will find it, if necessary, now I choose the combined one, I hope all sorts of gadgets are not needed. Here are just the presence, or rather the absence of a reinforced outlet annoys me

Quote: Flaksia


Don't settle for gas. oven. There is no price for our nerves! And the gas. the oven is a complete hassle, it is very rare for anyone to bake well, or simply the owners do not know that it is possible to bake more comfortably. We have cheap gas, but electricity is expensive, and I use e-mail for a year. oven and never regretted my choice. Before that, there was always gas.
Look for leverage on your spouse, with the threat of completely refusing to bake! Spend up a new email. wiring to the stove in the end ...

Thank you. I am looking for leverage. Today I tried to cook pizza in an airfryer, the bottom is white, the top is fried cheese, I spoiled my husband's beloved "4 cheeses", not deliberately the truth ... all wrapped up ... even tomorrow run for the stove.

Vilapo, 2-4 kW is still tolerant, I will choose.
Taia
Quote: AYaromashka

and they also write that gas enters the burners slowly and makes a lot of noise?

Yes, it was. But all this is regulated, the gas workers have done everything for us. My previous stove was also regulated.
AYaromashka
girls, (well, boys) and who knows about gas stoves on glass, is it worth buying one? and then on the internet I saw a good model of Hansa, that's in thought. Is this gas on the glass, is it glass-ceramic under the burners or is it another material? And then I will never take glass ceramics, only in custom-made articles they write what a miracle thing it is
vera100865
Girls, help me figure it out. I have gas. Morovskaya stove, I'm very good. I like it, I never let it down, they took it only because the oven was a miracle. I'm trying to light it today, but the oven goes out. The first time we encountered this. And I made a pizza for the whole baking sheet, you know that today she will swagger in a cartoon would make. In a surprise epic for the family.
Kalmykova
A thermocouple may fly, call the master. I had this, all the baked goods were holding the oven switch with my hands.
AYaromashka
if this infa helps anyone. A Bosch HGV 745325R stove was purchased. My review. Still, this true panel gets VERY hot during oven operation. The first half an hour is insignificant, after an hour it is impossible to touch with a hand. At the same time, the glass of the oven door is cold! At first, because of this, I was very upset, and then I got used to it - I don’t touch it and that's it. This is the only negative, in all other respects the stove is wonderful. The most important thing is that the pastries are SUPER! I have already cooked a lot of things, the oven can handle 5+ everything I cook according to a book with modes, it says what where to what level on what mode and for what time to set. I really like the child lock function - the child will not be able to turn on the stove and oven. Electric ignition in handles is super! Cast-iron grates - take only with them, you want the pan - it won't fall off, you can even interfere without holding it. After silver on white enamel I am not overjoyed .. Even on her burners och food quickly cooks, the flame is already white and blue. In general, I wrote about the minus above, if this is not fundamental, you can safely take
Taia
Quote: AYaromashka

if this infa helps anyone. A Bosch HGV 745325R stove was purchased. My review. Still, this true panel gets VERY hot during oven operation. The first half an hour is insignificant, after an hour it is impossible to touch with a hand. At the same time, the glass of the oven door is cold!

I have a similar stove.
I don’t understand which panel you are writing about? Where are the pens located? If I baked about her today, remembered what you wrote, specially controlled it - it does not get very hot, a little hot, it is quite possible to hold your hand.

Choosing a gas stove
AYaromashka
how long did the oven work for you? in the first half hour, I also do not get very hot. But by the way, in some review of the plates, I don't remember where, through the search I typed, they also write about the heating of the panel. I don’t understand ... but can Bosch take the left-hand plates from China? although there are so many stickers in the back of the stove about what was made in Turkey ...
Taia
These days I baked different things several times, about 50 minutes each.
Also made in Turkey.
I have a dishwasher close by, I was afraid of overheating - but no, the walls do not heat up much. Although they also wrote about this that it is heating up strongly.
AYaromashka
the side walls are not heated, only the panel is heated where the handles are.Do you have the address of the place of production in the passport of the plate with the stamp of the plant and the serial number of the plate itself? this is the way by law, but by the way my passport is empty, and a warranty card from the seller itself
Taia
I just realized that there are pens.
I did not pay attention to all the stamps, I no longer remember where all these pieces of paper are.
domna
Good evening. Tell me .. who is happy with their helpers, and which burners in your ovens are round or sticks, one or two? By purchasing a stove it is not possible to understand ....
Vilapo
Quote: Shelena3

Hello!!

decide on the color of the plate!

and now the question arose how much more difficult it is to care for the black enamelled surface of the slab, and the advantages of a light surface ??

Thank you
Shelena3, from personal experience I can say that it is much easier to care for a white enamel surface than a dark one. The dark one will have to be washed more often
domna
it's easier with white.
Doxy
Quote: Plump mouse

I got used to the electric oven and in every possible way I try to persuade my husband to buy a combined stove so as not to torment me later, to which he answers me with a question:
1) Does such a plate need a reinforced socket? Or does it have a regular standard plug?
2) How much electricity does this electric oven consume? Does such a stove come with electricity bills for half the cost of the stove itself monthly, if you cook in it at least every other day?
All passports for the stoves have a page "Technical characteristics" there should be everything painted
I have, for example, a combination cooker INDESIT
written
heating up to 200 - 0.4 kWh
maintaining 200 for an hour - 0.8 kWh
total consumption - 1.2KWh

There is a grill and convection in the stove, what they mean when they say about full consumption is not clear to me.

The counter showed that in an hour twenty (heating + baking bread) the stove turned on a little less than two kilowatts, according to our tariffs - 8 rubles. So consider, one dish is about 8 rubles ...

Now that I began to bake my own bread almost every day, and even muffins, then cookies, I understand that using electricity is expensive!

True, my oven is broken and works all the time only at the maximum, that is, it cooks up to 230-250, but, anyway, somehow I want more gas ... Now I have the torment of choice - whether to buy a new gas stove, whether to buy a mini-oven + an inset, or just to set up an old woman. In a word, I want to save money and have good pastries.
I looked after just such a stove AEG gas with convection, very good reviews about the oven
anneta21
We have such weak wiring in the entrance that you can forget about the stove with an electric oven. Which stoves have a good gas oven for baking? And one more thing: we do not have the opportunity to supply electricity to the stove, is it possible to light the gas with a match in modern models if the ignition does not work?
Mona1
Quote: anneta21

We have such weak wiring in the entrance that you can forget about the stove with an electric oven. Which stoves have a good gas oven for baking? And one more thing: we do not have the opportunity to supply electricity to the stove, is it possible to light the gas with a match in modern models if the ignition does not work?
I have a gas burning oven - a bad gas oven. And there is an electric ignition, but when the light is turned off, we just light it with matches. Probably, this is so in all stoves.
Doxy
Quote: Mona1

I have a gas burning oven - a bad gas oven.
After a stream of bad reviews about Gorenje, I stopped looking at her, but, nevertheless, sometimes I hear favorable reviews. Tanya, why is the oven bad? What are you comparing with? How long do you bake in it?

Now all hope for AEG, girls, can anyone use a gas stove with convection, share your impressions, please!
Mona1
Quote: Doxy

After a stream of bad reviews about Gorenje, I stopped looking at her, but, nevertheless, sometimes I hear favorable reviews. Tanya, why is the oven bad? What are you comparing with? How long do you bake in it?

Now all hope for AEG, girls, can anyone use a gas stove with convection, share your impressions, please!
They praise Gorenie combined, in which the top is gas, and the oven is electric, My friend has this. And who have a gas oven, I read a lot of reviews before buying that the bottom is on, and the top is white. Well, I hoped that they just got such an unsuccessful copy, and that I would be lucky. But, no luck. as they wrote, and it happened. I have it for seven years, probably, and all this time I was tormented with her. Everything burned on any fire. By the way, at the very minimum I have 160 degrees! And sometimes the temperature should be lower. Only a year ago I was able to tame my oven by purchasing a baking stone. Rather, its clay substitute in the form of an unglazed tray under a huge flower pot. I bought it cheap at a flower shop, put it on a wire rack on the lower level and that's it. By the way, on the forum there is a branch on baking stones and their substitutes. Now everything is baked perfectly, does not burn, and the top is reddened. So now I don't even need electro at all. I bake bread every other day. On electro would have gone broke already. Yes, one more important point, if you take it with a gas oven, then try to find that there is no gas control of the oven. How he tortured me! In the end she called the master from the service center Gorenje, paid and he took it off. But, the truth is, he said that right now everyone is going with gas control. Well, maybe it's Gorene, but others have a choice - with or without him.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

I already wrote that in the old stove I turned off the gas control myself
there is generally nothing complicated and any man with hands and a pair of screwdrivers will do it easily

the old stove also had a stopper with an oven - the bottom burned and the top was light
helped by an inverted baking sheet placed on the very top and a clay slab \ I don't even know what it is \

and in the new stove I have an "Extra effect"

The "Extra effect" set from the producer of household stoves Darin is a unique approach to the use of traditional accessories for the oven.

The deep pan and drip tray, used together, guarantee excellent results for all culinary delights. When installing the baking sheet in a recessed tray, a gap is formed between them, which, if desired, can be filled with water. Thanks to the air "cushion" or the effect of a water bath, the effect of temperature is softened and it becomes possible to regulate the microclimate in the oven, which contributes to even more even cooking of any dishes and pastries.

baked a little so far, but the result pleases

Doxy
I laugh !! grandmother's way is called - Extra effect !!

Quote: shade

I already wrote that in the old stove I turned off the gas control myself
there is generally nothing complicated and any man with hands and a pair of screwdrivers will do it easily
Poke pzhlsta, where are the details!

Tanya, thank you very much for the detailed answer!
Temka read about the stone, I have IT, too, by the way, in the form of a thick potted pallet)) bought for 19re! And, since you write that it saves, I will buy a gas oven with a light heart. True, I doubt that now there are ovens without gas control - new standards. But, look for a boom or, as our older comrades advise, we will unscrew it nafig!!))

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