Mona1
Quote: ukka

About the metro +100500 !!!
And such a situation can be if it is close to the wall (the norm is at least 10 cm) and the blower must also be opened when baking ...
When baking, I constantly blew open, because the ventilation duct is far away and the oven does not have enough air ...
A couple of times the flame of pearl when opening the door to the room, scorched the hair ...

Girls, when using gas ovens, you must strictly adhere to the instructions and state. standards for both successful use and safety !!!
Nice to meet a fellow countrywoman! Is the blower a door? I have it ajar only when working with the grill. And from the wall, I think I have 10 cm. I need to measure it exactly.
Ukka
Mona1
The blower is a compartment under the oven, different stoves open differently, I have a hinged door, someone has a drawer ...
Mona1
Quote: ukka

Mona1
The blower is a compartment under the oven, different stoves open differently, I have a hinged door, someone has a drawer ...
But I did not know, I have nothing in the instructions about this method of adjustment, can it really help? I will definitely try to experiment
Ukka
Mona1, this is not an adjustment, it is a prerequisite for the operation of gas ovens !!! In the Gorgaz, when instructed, they had to say about it !!!
When using built-in units, there should also be an open space under the gas oven.
Mona1
Quote: ukka

Mona1, this is not an adjustment, it is a prerequisite for the operation of gas ovens !!! In the Gorgaz, when instructed, they had to say about it !!!
When using built-in units, there must be an open space under the gas oven of at least 15 cm.
I have this compartment not with a door, but with all the rubbish inside. This is me how much see it should be put forward? It's strange that there is nothing in the instructions about this. I have glass wool constantly pouring into it from thermal insulation.
Rina
In BOSCH, the open box feint did not work. All the same 200 ° C.
This means that the stove is the second in the line of necessary purchases. And it's not even deviceaholism ...
iri_ka
Please tell me, does anyone know the official site of Ardo?
Not Russian, but native. This is an Italian firm, right? So there must be an Italian site with official dealers. But I can't find it. Or is it not an Italian firm at all?
Kapet
You confused the Brand (trade mark) a little with a company that produces goods under this brand. Dealers visit the company. ARDO is just a trademark of the Antonio Merloni S.p.A. concern, under which washers, dishwashers, and other soho good are produced ...
This is, approximately, like the German Bosch, which Siemens bought out long ago. However, if you can easily find information on Bosch products on German sites, you still need to search very, very much for the products of TM "ARDO" on the Italian Internet space. If you find it at all ... It is quite possible that for the national market there these products are sold under a different trademark. Just as the European-American brand "Crest" of the Procter & Gamble concern in our post-Soviet space (as well as in Poland and Germany) has been replaced by a brand with a more euphonious name for us "Blend-a-Med" ...
kavilter
I also had a problem: a new stove - the bottom is on, and the top is white. The problem was resolved as soon as I put a silicone mat on a baking sheet (Regent 500 rubles 60 * 40 - cut in half - into two baking sheets). I set the temperature to 5 out of 8 possible. Kaiser plate.
iri_ka
Quote: Kapet

You have confused a Brand (trade mark) a little with a company that produces goods under this brand. Dealers visit the company.ARDO is just a trademark of the Antonio Merloni S.p.A. concern, under which washing machines, dishwashers, and other soho good are produced ...
This is, approximately, like the German Bosch, which Siemens bought out long ago. However, if you can easily find information on Bosch products on German sites, you still need to search very, very much for the products of TM "ARDO" on the Italian Internet space. If you find it at all ... It is quite possible that for the national market there these products are sold under a different trademark. Just as the European-American brand "Crest" of the Procter & Gamble concern in our post-Soviet space (as well as in Poland and Germany) has been replaced by a brand with a more euphonious name for us "Blend-a-Med" ...
Thanks for the detailed answer. And how can you find out such details, where to read better? I am also interested in the Fornelli brand and Crohn. I also did not find information on them and my relatives did not find websites. And Zigmund & Stein too. They all have compact three-burner stoves. I just can't choose.
Wiki
Yesterday I bought a combined cooker Electrolux: gas burners, an electric multifunctional oven. I'm happy so far. Yesterday I baked meringue for 80 gr. 2 hours - great. Today, gingerbread cookies are great too.
Before that, Indesit was completely gas. I can’t say that the slab was just useless, it adjusted. But I didn't cook small products, let alone meringues. I translated the food a couple of times and that's it. The bottom burned. Large pies still came out, but with "dances", put a baking sheet with salt on the bottom. And for small things, and it did not help.
I haven't figured out all the modes yet, I don't know what to cook on convection.
Now I'm baking potatoes there, let's see how it goes.
Lika_n
WIKI
you can tell the model and power of the electric oven, otherwise I also have gas, the house is old, and everyone is in thought, I want an electric oven, but I don't know the wiring will pull. Thank you
Creamy
WIKI, Congratulations on your new stove! A very good choice. For me, the convection oven completely replaces the airfryer. I even put the dough in the oven for proofing, for this I just turn on the light-bulb, and I also do a bunch of things. Congratulations again and awaiting delicious reports.
Creamy
LIKA-n, an electric oven eats electricity, like a washing machine-2500 watts, you need to pull a separate cable of a certain section from the electric panel from the electric meter, preferably with grounding and access to a separate machine in the dashboard, in addition to it, you can put the machine at home (in my pantry in apartment block of machines, and each is signed that it supplies) You need a qualified electrician.
Wiki
Model EKK513519W. About power ... I don't know if it is:
Energy consumption Conventional heating 0.89 kWh
Forced convection 0.79 kWh

And here's what else is written: Maximum electrical connection power: 3035 W.

I was not puzzled by this question, since all the wiring was changed in the house (I also live in a private one) four years ago.
Crochet
Quote: Creamy

an electric oven eats electricity, like a washing machine-2500 watts, you need to pull a separate cable of a certain section from the electric panel, from the electric meter, preferably with grounding and access to a separate machine in the panel, in addition to it, you can put the machine at home (in my closet in the apartment block of machines, and each is signed that it powers) You need a qualified electrician.
Creamy, as you wrote everything correctly, this is exactly what we did when two months ago we acquired the combined Gorenje K65345BW .

By the way, I'm happy with my new oven.andmagu !!! I'm not really overjoyed at her Choosing a gas stove Choosing a gas stove Choosing a gas stove Choosing a gas stove...
Galinaind
wow, what a topic is relevant to me.

Friends gave me checks for 12 thousand rubles for my birthday ... from M-Video. We must choose a stove.
I love to bake in the oven.
Temka went to read, who advises what ...
Mona1
Quote: Krosh

Creamy, as you wrote everything correctly, this is exactly what we did when two months ago we acquired the combined Gorenje K65345BW .

By the way, I'm happy with my new oven.andmagu !!! I'm not really overjoyed at her Choosing a gas stove Choosing a gas stove Choosing a gas stove Choosing a gas stove...
Eh, and I stumbled. I bought gas with gas three years ago. oven, now I'm suffering. They say that in gas ovens, this is so for everyone. The bottom is on, the top is white. I disappear in Temka about a baking stone to somehow correct the situation. And all the greed, gas is cheaper. But my friend advised me to take it with an electric oven, but I hoped at random, hoped that I would get a normal one.
Galinaind
girls boys ... my head is spinning.
Advise. Need a good gas stove with a great gas oven for baking ...
Creamy
To be honest, I'm not the same from modern gas ovens. what is excellent, I don't even know good. 24 years ago I had such a wonderful gas stove, old, funny, on high legs and with wing-stands along the edges. Here she could do everything! Everything! When I was selling the apartment, I sincerely felt sorry for only this stove. And then I baked in different ovens with varying success, until I bought my current combined gas-control stove top with auto-ignition, an electric oven with a timer, temperature control, convection, an upper heating element, a lower heating element, and a bunch of their combined modes. I'm very happy with the stove. And it cost 6 years ago, like two good pure gas stoves. And she really is worth the money!
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And this is a piece of my old, already former kitchen. The picture shows this old gas stove, an oven that could do absolutely everything! I even felt deeply ... "Oh, how young we were, how sincerely we loved, how we believed in ourselves ... Now I understand that I was happy just then, in that small kitchen in a tiny apartment ..
Mona1
Before the current stove with electric oven, convection, etc., my mother had Belarusian gas for many years. stove "Hephaestus". Well, she was very pleased with her, including the oven. The one who reinstalled her stove on a new one also said that this is a thing, don't you mind? The new one, of course, is cool, but that one was also good. I know that Hephaestus seems to exist now, but in truth, I doubt the current quality. Therefore, when she was choosing, she coveted Gorenje with gas. oven. Rare muck, don't take it. Here is the same, but with an electric oven - very good of the not too expensive.
Wiki
About the old one with legs - I agree. True, I did not have one, but I saw it with a friend. Indeed, this stove bakes everything! Such a meringue - you will swing. My two previous gas ones - none of them reduced the gas enough to make meringue. It turned out brown cakes - at least burst. All small baked goods came out unimportantly, which is why I stopped baking them.
Today I came off in full. In the morning I baked gingerbread cookies, now I made coconut and "Zemfira". All three types of cookies are just lovely! Moreover, she did not stand and did not watch, set the mode and time, at the signal pulled out a perfectly baked and EQUALLY ruddy from all sides.
I'm not even used to the fact that baked goods can be equally ruddy without any baking sheets with water, salt and the like.
Girls, if possible, buy a combined stove. This is the thing!
I also baked potatoes - also an excellent result. I did it first in normal mode (top + bottom), and then turned on the turbo grill for five minutes. So she turned out to be very beautiful and ruddy.
Today I scolded myself all day - why didn't you buy a normal stove earlier?
At home there are three TVs that no one really watches, but you cook several times a day, suffer and put off such a necessary purchase for later. Durynda, in a word
Mona1
That, you are not a fool, you still bought what you need, but I was advised this, and I was a fool, I took the gas one. And it's a pity to throw it away, it's still completely new. Yes, and no money right now for a new one. I found a way out - I bought an airfryer. For meat and fish it will do, while I bake bread in HP, and I continue to bake cookies in my oven and, oh horror, you will not believe - I turn each cookie during the cooking process so that they are golden brown on all sides. Tin! So that , Galinaind, think well, do you need it, turn the cookies over?
Lika_n
poor I'm poor, where I am 3.5 square meters, house 49 g, and so I fly out the traffic jams, we have a cage on the forester, there is also a panel board with a marble slab, which is for the whole entrance, I saw everything for my husband, let's pull out a new cable from him to the apartment, so if you pull it to all the tenants, there are pieces of paper and work, but tell me that you will have an electrician, and the rest of the house will suffer, the panel board for the house, you also need to change it, they all patch it up ... And what to do if gas heaps and without counting (for now) and electricians .. it's not enough for mice ... I will put a solar battery
Mona1
Quote: Lika_n

poor I'm poor, where I am 3.5 square meters, house 49 g, and so I fly out the traffic jams, we have a cage on the forester, there is also a panel board with a marble slab, which is for the whole entrance, I saw everything for my husband, let's pull out a new cable from him to the apartment, so if you pull it to all the tenants, there are pieces of paper and work, but tell me that you will have an electrician, and the rest of the house will suffer, the panel board for the house, you also need to change it, they all patch it up ... And what to do if gas heaps and without counting (for now) and electricians .. it's not enough for mice ... I will put a solar battery
It seems like you live in the capital, well, how so. Unlucky so unlucky. It's not life without good wiring. Well then, carefully re-read the entire thread. Super good among gas ovens, I think you will not find it, but at least look for it more or less. Do you have any kind of stove now? If she somehow plows, then maybe it is not yet necessary to change the awl for soap, but wait a year or two, maybe they will still lead you a new cable. Well, you never know what, your shield will burn, for example, and the old cable will be cut off for scrap by robbers. And then you will have new wiring and then you will buy a cool stove. And you will be happy!
kavilter
Girls, I also have a new Kaiser gas stove. At first, the bottom also burned, and the top was white. And now I bought a silicone mat and the problem was solved. Try and you
Galinaind
Girls, thank you all !!!
When I lived in Nizhny Novgorod - in the kitchen there was also such a stove "on legs" Kitchen 5 sq. M. There were still massive "ears" on the stove on both sides - it was possible to put pots on them ... Places were taken ...
Then in 2000 we bought Brestskaya. Electric ignition died in speed, el. I used the grill a couple of times ... But it baked with quirks ... The top is very pale. I had to brown with a top ten.
I do not want this !!!!
On July 1, after renovation, M-Video was opened in Sokolniki ... Today, on my way to work, I drove there ... and they were from 10 am. Not destiny ... I wanted to at least see what nature is. They gave me checks for 12 thousand ... I can add 8-10 ... And how many email. energy does the oven take? Electricity is expensive nowadays - almost 4 rubles / kW. I cook mainly in the evening - this is considered rush hour ... But I set it for 3300 rubles. two years ago a 3-tariff meter and I wash it at night for 1 rub / kW.

Can you tell me the brands of plates. Top-gas, oven-electric
But I need a very good oven ...
Vilapo
Quote: Lika_n

Mona1 Tanya, thank you for your support
Of course, there is a stove - it's true that the oven, dances with tambourines, got used to it, but sometimes you want to not sit near it ... I'll wait or just let them change it (maybe it's out of kindness of heart) or they can start producing normal ovens with gas, even without bells and whistles, but so that it bakes well (maybe this is from the realm of fantasy, although earlier they also said that a lot of things are fantastic, but now everything works)
Yeah, right bank, bad wiring at the entrance, I recognize my house and the same problem. And the Hephaestus stove, in order to somehow reduce the burning, I put an asbestos sheet on the bottom in the stove, sometimes it helps ...
Vilapo
Quote: Galinaind

Girls, thank you all !!!

Can you tell me the brands of plates. Top-gas, oven-electric
But I need a very good oven ...
I really like how Electrolux EKK54502OX works, my daughter has this ..Choosing a gas stove , I really do not know how much they cost .. we have 423 y. e.
Creamy
Girls, I'm surprised at you. Go to the washing machines and machines you have, and they consume electricity as much as an electric oven. So do not turn on the washing machine and oven at once, but one thing.Or do you want to finish me off by saying that you do not have automatic washing machines due to the low power of your network? Have you even turned to a qualified electrician?
Mona1
Quote: Creamy

Girls, I'm surprised at you. Go to the washing machines and machines you have, and they consume electricity as much as an electric oven. So do not turn on the washing machine and oven at once, but one thing. Or do you want to finish me off by saying that you do not have automatic washing machines due to the low power of your network? Have you even turned to a qualified electrician?
Maybe not, they have the Dnieper at their side, what is such a washing machine? Tuck in the hem, a piece of households. soap - grab, and on the Dnieper. Here you have a washing machine, a rinse aid, and a squeezer. And the air is fresh, and the birds are singing, and the fish is splashing. You look, with what sheet you can also catch crucians!
Vilapo
Quote: Creamy

Girls, I'm surprised at you. Go to the washing machines and machines you have, and they consume electricity as much as an electric oven. So do not turn on the washing machine and oven at once, but one thing. Or do you want to finish me off by saying that you do not have automatic washing machines due to the low power of your network? Have you even turned to a qualified electrician?
I have my own qualified electrician, there are no problems with this, but you have to reckon with the wiring in the entrance, you do not always remember that you need to turn it on in turn so that the riser does not cut down, it also happens ...
Quote: Mona1

Maybe not, they have the Dnieper at their side, what is such a washing machine? Tuck in the hem, a piece of households. soap - grab, and on the Dnieper. Here you have a washing machine, a rinse aid, and a squeezer. And the air is fresh, and the birds are singing, and the fish is splashing. You look, with what sheet you can also catch crucians!
In our Dnieper, I would not only dare not to wash, but also to swim ..
Lika_n
Well, I don’t have a machine gun, in the process of repairing .. (there is a baby - how much she bursts there), while I get around, I have a sauna of 2 square meters, you can still turn on one light bulb and a laptop, cut it off more, or with a flashlight.
our neighbor turned on everything turned off, at one time there was 2 and 4 floors there is light, 3 and 5 there are no, and it's already 19 ... just came from work, and you have a surprise. And the electrician in the apartment can do everything, but if you look at the diagram of the house, and what they have done over the years and how they switch from fuse to fuse in the house panel cable ... but they do nothing radically ... and achieve, we all know as we have with this case .. no one is responsible for anything, but 3 grams of debt - turn off the light ...
And whoever has time, while there are not many people, go to Kievenergo to make a reconciliation according to the calculations, they have a website there, where you can see their payments, in general I did not like something there (either I owe it, or I :))) , I went ... but I recommend anyone in Kiev, to go to Melnikov right away, there are more operators and work from 8.
Olga from Voronezh
Gas stove with gas oven Gorenie. The glass of the oven just exploded, and I was just bent over to watch the pastries. The face, elbows, knees are on fire. Bought recently.
Deep
Horrible! OlgaI hope there are no serious injuries ... And what's the problem? Was the glass touching the baking sheet?
Olga from Voronezh
There are no cuts, although small glass scattered throughout the kitchen. But now everything is burning both hands and feet, and lips are very strong. The glasses were well attached.
I don't know the reason yet, I looked on the Internet - there are such cases and not 2-3,
Deep
I probably need to call an ambulance, but for now, at least put ice on your lips, cool the rest of the burns with running water if possible. And it's a pity for the stove .. Well, it's a nightmare, I'm always afraid of this when I look in .. Especially Gorenie, what then to expect from ..
Mona1
Quote: Olga from Voronezh

Gas stove with gas oven Gorenie. The glass of the oven just exploded, and I was just bent over to watch the pastries. The face, elbows, knees are on fire. Bought recently.
Olya, poor thing, what does this stove need, and just when they bent down to look. I would have sued the firm, so who knows how this is done. And even if there are no such injuries, it will be psychologically scary to approach any stove now.And it exploded, perhaps because a bubble of air got into the glass somewhere during its production, maybe that's why.
And I also have a gas burner with a gas oven, but mine is already two or two and a half years old. Now I'll be careful with her. Moreover, I want to put a baking stone there, who knows how it will disrupt the heat exchange in the oven, will there be overheating of the glass and hence the same unpleasant fireworks.
Deep
Quote: Mona1

And I also have a gas burner with a gas oven, but mine is already two or two and a half years old. Now I'll be careful with her. Moreover, I want to put a baking stone there, who knows how it will disrupt the heat exchange in the oven, will there be overheating of the glass and hence the same unpleasant fireworks.
Mona1, do you have double or single glass? I’m still thinking, did both glasses explode at once ?? I have a Belarusian gas oven - there is double glass too.
Olga from Voronezh
The glass is not triple. One of them, the outermost, survived,
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and this is what is left of the others, but not vё. Two thirds under the slab. I do not want to move away in the middle of the night. Let people sleep.

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The last baked goods. Really throw it away?
Creamy
Throw it out unambiguously. If the fragments flew all over the kitchen, but for your buns, did they specifically change the trajectory of movement and bend your bread? Your life and health are more valuable, and we also need you on the forum healthy. And the rolls. What are the rolls? Yes, these rolls you will bake a carriage! And not just one carriage, but a whole train!
Olga from Voronezh
What to throw away, I have already decided. It's just a pity. The main thing in the morning is not a single piece of bread. I gave the rest of the loaf to a friend. I thought I had already set myself a dough. Here's an adventure. And, actually, thank God! The eyes are intact and the burns will heal.
With the stove, how will it be solved. One of the warranty cards has already been cut off - the ignition did not work for 3 burners, and one of them went out during the cooking process.
Mona1
Quote: Deep

Mona1, do you have double or single glass? I’m still thinking, did both glasses explode at once ?? I have a Belarusian gas oven - there is double glass too.
I have a Gorenje GIN 52203 IW stove, here's what I read about its door: "The oven is equipped with a Compact Door with double glass, which reduces the risk of accidental burns." Here, you bastards, I wonder if the girl's burns are accidental or not? And the outer glass, went right now and looked closely, as if covered with a fine mesh.
Mona1
Quote: Olga from Voronezh

What to throw away, I have already decided. It's just a pity. The main thing in the morning is not a single piece of bread. I gave the rest of the loaf to a friend. I thought I had already set myself a dough. Here's an adventure. And, actually, thank God! The eyes are intact and the burns will heal.
With the stove, how will it be solved. One of the warranty cards has already been cut off - the ignition did not work for 3 burners, and one of them went out during the cooking process.
Also, the ignition did not work on almost all comforts, horror! I have on this score, everything is in order, everything lit up both at once and until now, the only jamb near the oven is that the bottom always burns, and the top is white. For this reason, I am looking for a baking stone to smooth the situation.

Olya, did you have such a problem as I did? I see that you have such wonderful pastries, it doesn't work in mine.
Olga from Voronezh
No, it was not. I heard that now they are not collected in Slovenia.
Mona1
Olya, when you looked into the oven, as I understand it, you opened the door, since the outer glass stood firm. I'm thinking, maybe your hands were wet and somehow by chance a drop of cold water could drip from your hand onto the glass. Then this could easily happen because of this.
Milda
Innusik, I have not heard of this, but does not depend on the type of oven? Gas or electricity? We thought to buy a gas top, an electric oven. Yes, parents often turn off the light. Although electro is better baked.
Galinaind
Girls, you can't leave it like that - you need to turn to the rights of buyers. Why should the new stove be thrown away? let them replace, although unlikely. But at least new glasses will be inserted. Interestingly, what is the guarantee for glass? Olenka, how are you? I can imagine how much stress you experienced.
And I'm also going to buy a new stove - I haven't decided which one yet ...

I remembered that it was in a student dormitory in the 80s. We had electric stoves and someone put condensed milk to cook in a pressure cooker. And I was baking a cake, I am tall, and even blind - I opened the oven, sat down in front of it and ... there was an explosion - this can exploded with the pan ... They cut off the condensed milk with my hair together ... was - the jacket had to be thrown away. I didn't get on my face - thank God. Then they washed the kitchen ... But I still have a fear for my whole life before the pressure cooker ...
Milda
Galina, Olga threw out the baked goods. And the stove can be returned (exchanged), probably? If there is still a guarantee. Such an incident must still be experienced.
And I've been using a pressure cooker for a hundred years, I'm not afraid of mine, but I bypass my mother.
Quote: Krosh

Where I read, tormented by the choice of the oven, I remember it was just about gas ovens ...
Do not even hesitate, I have already compared !!! Well, you know ...
Innusik, yes, in the same place you have convection, and beauty turns out
It seems that we still need to discuss the type of oven
Mona1
Girls, my husband at work had such a case not so long ago. We sold such sets of dark glass - cups, saucers and a sugar bowl without a lid. And there someone in the department had such a cup. This man stood on the windowsill. Empty. No one came up to her or touched her. There was nothing on it. In general, it went bang and it shattered into smithereens into hundreds of pieces. By her own. There are several people in the room. Everyone was shocked, nobody got hit. The husband says, if he hadn't seen it himself, he would not have believed that this was possible. Someone said that the Chinese somehow made the glass of poor quality, there was some kind of internal tension in it, or something. Then there were a lot of such sets, and I have one at home. Here's a picture - just like such a cup scattered. Mine are still in the cabinet, it's a pity to throw it away, a gift, but I don't risk touching and drinking from them:
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