Mirabel
Alexander, Well, here, too, everything is not very well adjusted with the return of the warranty product. But there are trouble-free shops in this regard.

marina-mm
Alexander, my machine has a 5-year warranty, and then how it goes.
luda_085151
Hello. Bought myself a Hansa 454WH, does anyone have one? There is zero information (reviews) and there is practically nothing on the forum about Hansa.
luda_085151
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with a friend of Hans, she is suffering with her, then she does not wash, she does not drain the water and minimum washing cycle 2 hours ((

In my Hansa 454 there are 5 modes - 30min, 60min, 160, 155, 120 minutes. Today I tried it for 30 minutes, after the end I opened it in 20 minutes, the dishes were dry (according to the description - without drying)
larissa
Girls, bought a BEKO DSFS 6530 dishwasher today, and somehow did not find a list of what is included in the dishwasher package .., I read on the forum that there should be a test = a strip for determining water hardness (we have none of this), many go tablets for the first wash, my husband has not yet found the valve ... and most importantly, we cannot find a list of equipment anywhere
Bijou
What kind of valve?
The package bundle is unpredictable and often depends on the position of the model in the lineup. In the top it will be crammed with what is needed and not needed, in the economy only the most necessary things.

Usually there is always a funnel for pouring salt and a container for forks-spoons, which almost no one uses, because there is either a third basket for small things, or hinged shelves. The pills may not be there, I don't remember using the strips, although they may have been somewhere.
larissa
Lena, thanks for the prompt response, I don't know what the valve is called, but my husband is already asleep ... there is a connection in the picture, and the husband said in the store that he seemed to see him, and when he did not find it, he said that he would go tomorrow to the store to sort it out ... but I just became most interested, so I got into my favorite bread maker .. I just wondered how much I bought, there was always a list of components that come with a certain model, but here, besides the warranty card and instructions for there is nothing to use ..
Bijou
Lar, and look at the manufacturer's website or in other stores? Does not work? For example, on the Fridge there are always very detailed photos of everything in the set.

Is there a valve on the inlet hose? Which aquastop? It is impossible to steal such a thing, it is firmly screwed to the car and controlled from it.

Taki sho, there is not even a funnel for salt and a basket for forks ??

In my instructions, which came one for several models, next to the list of possible components were footnotes - only in the model such and such or such.

upd. She looked for it herself. Indeed, very little information .. From the equipment I met only a holder for glasses and nothing else.

Yes, all these are trifles. If only the soap works, and the indicators there or a couple of pills are trifles, because of which you should not wag your nerves.
tana33
Quote: Bijou
container for forks and spoons, which almost no one uses,

how is it
I always have it packed)))) wash the dishes every day))))
Bijou
Quote: tana33
how is it
I always have it))))
Oops. It's just that I have been on another forum, more "male" for many years. I got used to the idea that rarely anyone uses it - it's a pity, especially in narrow cars. Instead of this raskoryak, it is easier to stick in an extra saucepan. After all, there are usually a lot of additional reclining shelves where forks-spoons can be poured and everything will be washed off. And now, in general, they began to make special small trays like the third basket for pouring such small things.

On the first day I twirled my container in my hands, and after eight years I found it in the old closet. Well, just like new!
tana33
Flax, I have one shelf, in the upper basket))) you can't put a lot on it, but I use it with might and main
a 45cm machine, a lot is included, oddly enough, I already got used to folding, and the first two weeks I solved the puzzles)))))
larissa
There is flax, a funnel and a basket, but there is no valve, although according to the characteristics of this model it should be .. in the store they said that they do not know what equipment came, this is what they bought. so we will use, the main thing is that I have a long-awaited assistant (though not yet connected)
Lenochka, thanks for your participation and desire to help, I will wait, maybe one of the girls will respond to someone with the same model, maybe I’m in vain.
kavilter
maybe it means a check valve, which is installed at the point of connection to the sewer. if it is, then I did not have it in the kit either (Bosch car)
Vichka
Explain to me please. Standard programs necessarily consist of
intensive program for heavily soiled dishes and express program (fast cycle)? Or in certain models, there may not be one of them?
pandorray
Girls, help me choose!
I'm going to take a dishwasher, budget. So far, I like most of all 2 options
Whirlpool ADP 500 wh
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AND
ELECTROLUX ESF9551LOW
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I can't decide, the whirlpool captivates with the steam processing function (in the summer I can preserve a lot - 250-300 cans + lids).
+ there is some kind of additional watering can for pots.
Maybe someone has such? Who knows how in Ukraine with their service?
Lilyanna
Does anyone have a CANDY CDP 4709-07? on the Internet, such laudatory reviews about her, especially captivating the ability to quickly wash 24 minutes and that's all) and, they say, she washes everything very well.
Tanyusha
Lilyanna, my Bosch has a quick wash from 27 minutes to 35, depending on the workload. The machine chooses the time itself.
Lilyanna
What is your Bosch model?
Lilyanna
That's it))) bought today this Hotpoint-Ariston LSFK 7B09 photo I don't know how to insert
Robin bobin
And I'm somewhat shocked by the prices of dishwashers. I want them for 15 thousand, as I looked after last year (((. Big request - if someone comes across promotions and sales - beckon)
Taia
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I want them for 15 thousand, as I looked after last year (((.

Lena, I think that at this price will no longer be. All dishwashers are imported, the price depends on currency fluctuations. You need to focus on the minimum $ 300. And this is already about 20 thousand rubles
Chamomile
Robin bobin, eg

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And there are still others, in the same price category.
Taia
Chamomile1, wow, tempting price.

I went to see, but something shows me that they are not there
It seems the Indesites are released in Russia ,? then the price should be humane.
Robin bobin
Are the Indesites even a little good?
The main requirement for a dishwasher is to wash it. In time immemorial I had a compact Bosch - I did not wash anything at all. You put on the dirty - you take even dirtier. I even. to be honest, after him I thought that hmm is generally nonsense. Until I saw my aunt's car, which washes everything to a crisp and shine, and also disinfects. Of course, my desires are unrealistic - such a monster, and for 15,000). BUT if someone knows at least something similar, I will be very grateful.
sazalexter
Robin bobinForget about this price, it will no longer be, the dollar has grown 3 times, so count on this price, there may be illiquid assets in the form of Intdesit on the leftovers and they will end after NG.
Vinnitsa
Happy New Year, members of the forum!
With new torments of choice (it's me)!
Help, help, help!

I am tormented again by the choice of PMM:
who is well versed, take a look at the suggestions, please

do not make members of the forum follow the links, list the names here



Which one to pay attention to?

Thank you!
Bijou
Vinnitsa, the first one looks too old (it looks like mine), the last one is too strange. Nef, Siemens and AEG remain. I don't know anything about AEG, except that it has long been the same Electrolux, which does not like low voltage, but has a hot drying fan. It looks like a top-end model, it may or may not be a good buy.
Well, of the two that have become, I am for Siemens, because he has a third shelf, see, there is such a shallow tray below? This is a very useful gimmick.

One "but" - all BSHs had problems with heaters a few years ago, they went out of order en masse. It is possible that they got to resale for this reason. Then the problem was solved by changing the design, so, theoretically, if the breakdown was and it was removed by the master, then everything should be fine.

In general, it's sad that there are no model numbers, which makes figs understand what is inside there. ((You will get a full automatic machine and suffer ... Here at Nef's door it looks like auto-detecting stiffness, but this is not very useful.)) programs were listed on typewriters. ((

Here is only one cutlery basket in the picture. Well, the third tray completely replaces and even many times better, and the rest? And the folding guides? And what about the height-adjustable top box? Where is there, where is not? And what about hot or short programs, but an accelerated wash, and a delayed start?
Well, how can I advise, not by the name of the brand.
Vinnitsa
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do not make members of the forum follow the links, list the names here
thanks, the admins made me feel good - now I myself can't figure out which one to pay attention to after the advice Lena...
Bijou
Vinnitsa, I still have links open.)) The first is a free-standing white Siemens, the last is Electrolux ESF76510LX.
With the rest it is clear, because although they do not have their own names, they are all different - Nef, Siemens and AEG.
Or to you in PM send your previous list of links?
Vinnitsa
Lena, if possible, yes, send it, because on that site I have a lot of classifieds in my bookmarks (there are two Neffs, and Siemens, and several AEG, and I copied 5 models to the forum). Thank you for participating!
sazalexter
Vinnitsa, AEG, Electrolux, Siemens at the very end as difficult to repair. I can't say anything about Neff
Vinnitsa
Alexander, that is, of the requested ones - are you in favor of AEG?
Marusya
Now I am choosing a dishwasher in the country. Need a full-size one. She looked after Indesit. Budget up to 25 thousand rubles. I will buy in the spring. Use at the cottage during the summer season. Maybe you will advise something else?
sazalexter
Vinnitsa, You understood me correctly In the topic, the list of top manufacturers has already sounded.
Bijou
Quote: sazalexter
Vinnitsa, AEG, Electrolux, Siemens at the very end, as difficult to repair. I can't say anything about Neff
Strange advice.)) You chtoli don't even know that Nef and Siemens are one and the same in most cases?

IMHO, the wrong approach to buy a car only by name, without delving into the design and management features.
And more than once I came across the bewilderment of the owners of Electrolux, they say, relatives with Bosches just put the dishes in the car with no bones, and wash them cleaner than ours, although we even rinse them in the sink before laying them.

Although there are satisfied, of course.
Vinnitsa
There is a special charm in Christmas:
In any capital and in any village
Everyone counts (I dare not contradict),
That this holiday is the best on Earth;
There is no sin in it, there is nothing empty in it ...
So let, looking into every house,
Christmas is going around the world!
And I wish you a Merry Christmas!

Dishwasher selection (2)
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Natasha K
sazalexter, Alexander, what can you tell us about korting built-in dishwashers, how are they serviced and repaired?
Dear forum users who have the technique of this brand, share your impressions. The choice of middle-class equipment in stores is meager, and I want to choose good assistants, but the budget is limited, so I don't look towards expensive models.
sazalexter
Natalia K, I won't say anything about this company, I just don't know
Bijou
The Korting brand really belongs to Gorenje, but in the Russian Federation the situation is different - all rights to this brand are given to one of the large H&E distributors, so that almost all Korting equipment on the Russian market is OEM models. Including PMM. Both of these models are Chinese made by Midea. Quite a decent choice for its price.
This Midea is also sold under other brands, but I won't name them offhand, I'm afraid to lie.)
ZelenMar
Robin bobin, I had the first Bosch (still purely German) for 6 people - excellent soap, then there was also Bosch, but not German and also for 6 people, just more modern - perfect soaps, now I have Ariston for 9 people - it also washes perfectly ... The very first pmm warmed up the dishes very strongly, which was not possible to grab within 5 minutes after washing .... I chose the last one because it was convenient to put in powder, salt and rinse aid, and for the price. Electrolux seemed the least comfortable to me.
All three washed and do the dishes excellently. But the detergent is of great importance !!!! Sometimes you start - it washes brilliantly, and by the end of use - whitish spots appear on the dishes ... Change the product and again - everything is fine. And by the way, everything is still in working order.
Natasha K
Thanks for the opinions.
Natasha K
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The Korting brand really belongs to Gorenje, but in the Russian Federation the situation is different - all rights to this brand are given to one of the large H&E distributors, so that almost all Korting equipment on the Russian market is OEM models. Including PMM. Both of these models are Chinese made by Midea. Quite a decent choice for its price.
This Midea is also sold under other brands, but I won't name them offhand, I'm afraid to lie.)
In general, Midea was Belarusian, but how are they? Wash? I read about Whirlpool, it is clear that how many people have so many opinions, but how to choose something?

I don't consider Bosch because of expensive repairs (that everything is completely changed there), I think the cheap version of Bosch can hardly boast of excellent quality ... and most likely it will be at the level of other budget models ... or I'm wrong ...
sazalexter
Natalia K, Lux, Zanusi. Chinese Midea, I would have thought a hundred times ...
Natasha K
Alexander, thanks. Is a suite an electrolux? What's wrong with him? I am Electrolux ESL 95201 LO. In principle, I like Bosch, but talk about expensive repairs scares me, but maybe it won't break?
I looked at Korting KDI 6045, but it does not have a water purity sensor, is this an important function?
Jenealis
I was tormented here in October, tossed about in the throes of choice, but I bought a Bosch SMS40D12RU. I do not know how I lived before, a dishwasher is like a washing machine, everyone should have it! Washes perfectly. All my dishes are new, there is no burning, so I cannot evaluate from this point of view. And so I wash everything in it: the pots from the multicooker, the graters, the knives, the whole plastic, the bowl of the slow cooker. With the right approach, three pots and all the plates, spoons, cups from a family of 3 people stand up per day. I asked my husband to cut the forks / spoons holder, now it is compact, everything fits into it. I sprinkle salt, rinse aid and okeevskie tablets for ppm, 300 re for 60 pieces. Half a pill is enough (though it's hard to break them, maybe there is a life hack?). I used Somat at first, but it was so smelly and did not wash well ... I bought it in okay, maybe a fake. And yet, I don't rinse the dishes, I put them as they are, well, only if something is very large, I clean them. So no hassle and everyone is happy. I definitely recommend the machine !!! especially since the price has now dropped.
Umka
Jenealis, Evgeniya, thank you very much for such a detailed review !!!

Members of the forum, what do we have about the constructions ??? We need a cool and proven "enhanced" work of 60 (width) ... Help me !!!
Sneg6
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so I wash everything in it: pots from multicooker, graters, knives, all plastic, a bowl of a slow cooker
The slow cooker bowl is not dishwasher safe. Will feed on water and crack.
Jenealis
Olga, nothing gets nourished, it is covered with glaze. The plates don't burst. Yes, and I'm not the only one, the floor of the forum washes like that. And the instruction blesses
sazalexter
Natalia K, electrolux with him, on the contrary, everything is fine Electrolux ESL 95201 LO is quite a decent PMM.

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