Sonechko1975
Quote: V-tina

Vinnitsa, I would personally take AEG or NEFF from the first two links, having previously talked, of course, with the sellers
I agree that Neff has a full set of programs at the first link, I regret that I took it without 70 degrees ... I chose rinsing (I thought that I would save and rinse the dishes for 2 days so as not to dry out)
Irriska1963
Girls ... My dishwasher was 15 years old. Matroskin made a leap and changed .... On Siemens ... Shines, plows .... Fairy tale ... Silent IN GENERAL ... I sit stupidly and look at the floor ... There is time and mode .. And inside, shines blue ... And a tray for forks-spoons .... Disgusting. As progress is marching .... Gorgeous .... Just-head off. Although, I'm curled up on technology. But this is super ...
Your Sailor ...
Vinnitsa
Irriska1963, what is your Siemens model?
Vinnitsa
Girls, here's Neff in all its glory Dishwasher selection (2)
Description dishwasher Neff S 51M63 X0

Installation type: fully recessed
Control: push-button switches
Water consumption per cycle: 12 l
Functions
Number of crockery sets: 13
Number of washing programs: 6/5 temperature modes /
Dryer: condensing
Water purity sensor: +
Delay start timer: + / up to 24 hours /
Leakage protection: +
Half load: +
Quick wash: +
Gentle washing program: +
Intensive wash program: +
Salt indicator: +
Rinse aid indicator: +
Using "pills": +
End of work signal: +
Efficiency classes
Washing class: A
Drying class: A
Energy class: A
General characteristics
Childproof: +
Display: +
Automatic door closer: +
Noise level: 44 dB
Dimensions (HxWxD): 82x60x55 cm

Additional functions and capabilities of the Neff S 51M63 X0 dishwasher:
Height-adjustable top basket with RackMatic system
Height-adjustable basket for dishes
Washing programs:
Auto 45-65 ° С
Intensive 70 ° C
Eco 50 ° C
Fast 45 ° C
Delicate 40 ° С
Pre-rinse

I think the functionality is great?
V-tina
In my opinion, just super
Vinnitsa
V-tina, thanks for the help in choosing! And what would I do without you all?
Sonechko1975
Quote: Vinnitsa

Girls, here's Neff in all its glory Dishwasher selection (2)

Great choice!!!
Vinnitsa
Girls, thank you all for your help and concern!
Babushka
Finally I bought a new PM (BOSCH SPV 53M10EU). Made in Germany, not cheap in our market, compared to Samsung, Hans and other budget ones. I use it for a week and I am very upset. There are several reasons:
- There is a chemical smell inside the car and it does not disappear. These are not detergents, since I use the same ones left after a broken PM (Finish).
- The walls of the machine are wet after the end of the program. It wasn't in my old car.
- Eco's program did not like it, because it washes poorly (plaque after tea)
I probably want a lot from modern technology? Although, the broken down car was bought only 8 years ago. Was 2 times cheaper and less bells and whistles. I didn't change detergents. This is a cry from the heart ...
Lilida
Babushka, and how long after stopping the washing process, do you open the dishwasher? After the purchase, I opened it without letting it cool down, the walls were also wet. Now I open it after about 1 hour and 20 minutes. - everything is dry. Even the plastic is dry. And try changing detergents. And suddenly it will help. I wish everything to be corrected as quickly as possible.
PapAnin
Babushka, I have almost the same, only with three trays.
- The smell was only from chemistry, I fought with the selection of drugs. Maybe at the very beginning there was a smell from the car, I don't remember, I was more irritated by the smell of chemistry.
- Are the dishes dry with wet walls? It is so? Condensation drying in this PMM.Water evaporating from hot dishes condenses on the cold walls and flows off. This is normal. If you do not open it immediately, then the water will flow down and the walls will be dry. If I need to quickly get the dishes that have cooled down, after the end of the program, I slightly open the door, just click it open for a while. After that, the dishes cool quickly and everything is dry.
- Most often mine is on Eco. Fine. But the first time I washed all the dishes for 70about, even the oldest tea plaque on the strainers is gone. They became like new! After that, mine on Eco. Fresh bloom is washed off well. Can you play with the amount of detergent? I use Finish powder. you can always change the quantity.

In general, I'm happy with this car. At the very beginning, I adjusted the salt and rinse aid for water hardness and that's it ...
I think that you will make friends with your car and you will be satisfied.
Babushka
Lydia, George, Thanks for the sympathy. The car was opened at different times: immediately after the end, after a couple of hours, in the morning, after a night wash. The walls and door are wet. Adjusted water hardness and rinse aid flow. Finish detergents were left from a broken car and there was no smell. In the new car, the smell was immediately: I was not present during the installation. I came when the master had already left and the PM was working on the Eco program (the master started) without any detergents. Now sniffing plastic parts. The impression is that the left cutlery tray. I'll check it tomorrow. I will take it off and put it in a bag. In short, we will watch.
Yulia_red
Quote: Vinnitsa
Neff S 51M63 X0
Please, tell me where did you find such a dishwasher and how much does it cost?
skifff
all good day!
Does anyone have an opinion on the Zigmund & Shtain DW69.6009X dishwasher (search refused)?
and if anyone has come across the Flavia brand, share, pliz!
you need to fit into the budget, but I don't want Bosch-Siemens.
Olga VB
skifff, go to ixbt, they will prompt you there.
skifff
Olga VB, thanks, I'll try.
Taia
These are the dishwashers we sell. Their colors are cheerful.

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Bijou
Quote: Taia
Their colors are cheerful.
I suppose you dare? For a dollhouse just right!
mowgli
decided to buy Bosch for 3 programs
Tanyusha
Bijou, and why for a dollhouse, these cars are full-sized, but they are not sickly.
Bijou
Tanyusha, so what about the design? The most that neither is a gingerbread doll. They have all the equipment in a similar style - both refrigerators and washing machines. Well, you can't put such a twisted eye in either wooden classics, retro / country, or hi-tech. Although ... Maybe it will be possible to fit it into retro a la seventies.

Ugh .. They have a name written on the door, but I didn't see it.))
Tanyusha
Bijou, but I like the design, I would take black, but 95 thousand rubles. , the toad is choking.
Bijou
Quote: Tanyusha
but 95 thousand

Yes, for this money you can buy a fancy fancy refrigerator with several cameras, telescopes, and the devil knows what else is useful.
mowgli
Girls, for lack of funds, I want to buy a Bosch for 3 programs, cheap, that's how angry?
or take Ariston? or Beko?
kseniya D
Natalia, I, for example, do not use all programs. Another thing is whether there is additional. functions in the form of half load or reduced wash time. Recently, I began to use the latter function very often.
mowgli
Yes, this is also not my first car, there is Eco wash, 70 degrees and, in my opinion, short
louisa
Quote: mowgli
Yes, this is also not my first car, there is Eco wash, 70 degrees and, in my opinion, short
I use only 70 grad in my heaped Bosh, automatic wash 60 degrees and that's it, well, sometimes I turn on half load and add. rinse, so you can completely do with three programs
mowgli
Today I was stubbornly offered Indesit
sazalexter
Quote: mowgli
today I was stubbornly offered Indesit
Of course you need to sell indezhut
tana33
Uraaa !!!
I'm a woman, not a dishwasher)))
now I have a sorceress assistant
everything else is not mine, even teaspoons straight into the basket
let alone pots and pans generally keep quiet, down with washing slavery !!!!
recently downloaded and saw that she had not washed her favorite kitchen rag
well, I put it in the upper basket, folded it twice and laid it along
washed with dishes))))

I have Bosch, 45cm
mowgli
and I again postponed the purchase (I had to buy a phone, it broke completely) for at least a year (((
tana33
Natalia, I put it off for a long time))) a dream come true
and you will also have))))
adelinalina
Quote: mowgli
Yes, this is also not my first car, there is Eco wash, 70 degrees and, in my opinion, short
if we had such, I would take it, I mainly use eco and 70 degrees. But there is no short one in mine, apart from rinsing
tana33, with the acquisition
Svetlana 73
mowgli, since such a misfortune has happened and the purchase has to be postponed - this is a sign of fate! Collect some money and buy THING!

I do not have enough extra in my PMM. rinsing and soaking - sometimes the pots "stick" strongly
Natkamor
oh girls. and I bought a car. really used from germany. they will bring it tomorrow. behold Dishwasher selection (2) but now I think it is unlikely that instructions are attached to it) can anyone help figure out what's what and where
sazalexter
Natkamor.First, look for instructions on the office 🔗
Natkamor
Alexander, Thank you. but I tried it. Answer - No documents are available online for the selected device. on this and made a request. can anyone come across
sazalexter
Natkamor, Look for instructions in .pdf format specifying the model, just on the Internet. The model is old, most likely in the CIS countries it was not decided to search for instructions in Russian.
toffee
Natkamor, an interesting toy. What is it: narrow or full-scale, built-in? And why did you fall for this model? And if what app. part will fly where will you take it? Maybe she's some kind of super cool, then we will now envy in chorus. Well, don't torment, tell me.
Natkamor
oh girls. I urgently baked a machine) to buy a new one for me is not realistic yet. and among the second-hand, in the rhythm of the dance / urgent /, according to my free money, there was only one. the seller assured that everything was ok with her. and she will also survive those that are now being released)
and now I'm trying to figure out how to find a common language with this miracle - the beast)
I almost understood by the buttons. what does this mean? vor - spulen translation back - coil.
and this is zeit - vorwahl, klar - spuler
here in the photo you can see a box on the door and some kind of handle. box, as I understand it, for detergent and salt. and the pen is for what?

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Bijou
Quote: Natkamor
here in the photo you can see a box on the door and some kind of handle. box, as I understand it, for detergent and salt. and the pen is for what?

On the door - on the left under the curtain, there is a compartment for detergent or tablets, under the spinner - rinse aid. Try to figure out where to fill it there. The flow rate is regulated with a twist, start with the smallest.

Below on the bottom left is a cover. We unscrew, we see the bunker. Perhaps with water. If there is no water, then pour in from half a liter and begin to pour in dishwasher salt. How many will enter. This is usually 1.5 kg, but there are options. It is supposed to sprinkle salt just before washing so that spilled water is washed off with water and corrosion does not occur. But you can just rinse with water.

The bottom is not visible, but there must be some filters. Try to untwist and remove everything that unwinds and takes out. It should be washed and cleaned regularly.

The rocker arms should rotate easily. If it turns out that the dishes are not being washed well somewhere, then they should be checked for blockages, and this happens.

I think that even without instructions, you will perfectly figure it out by typing.
There is nothing particularly complicated there. But you can take a closer picture of the control panel and in the on state, perhaps the icons will be familiar to someone.))
sazalexter
Natkamor, vorspulen- all over this is an accelerated wash, zeitvorwahl - a delay in washing, klar spüler --- pure PMM ???
Please indicate the exact name of the PMM, if there is a product code.
Natkamor
Alexander, Thank you. I already tried it by typing) I didn't wash everything / I didn't wash the cup of tea, the bowl is in the recess of the rim /, but, probably, you need to put it differently. the rest is super. You can't wash it with your hands. and dried - not a single drop. I am so happy. still to the end to figure out what's what.and then, along the way, I pressed the buttons in the wrong order. SN29350 / 01
tana33
Natkamor, my salt is poured at the bottom, and powder and rinse aid on the door
rinse is where the shower type icon is
and salt, this is an icon of two curved back and forth arrows
powder or pill where the icon looks like a snowflake
a box for forks-spoons, you will put them vertically there

go to the Siemens website and find a remotely similar machine
you will understand everything intuitively
all the buttons are already a choice of temperature programs, you will see them only when you turn them on, sit and poke what's what
everything is really simple there, because the designations of modes, temperatures, etc., are standard and are similar on all machines
tana33
while scribbling, they answered without me))))
sazalexter
Natkamor, Your PMM? 🔗
at the bottom of the page in the blue footer "This document for download" clickable link to download instructions in a convenient format.
Jenealis
friends, help advice. We are moving to a private house, there is a septic tank and boilers, the question of buying a PM has become acute. At the moment there is an opportunity to buy only a used machine, well, or wait half a year. But with our appetites, it will be expensive to wash the dishes by hand. Tell me, what to look for when buying PM from hand? There are several options, but they are not all connected, you can't check ... Or is the risk too great?
sazalexter
Jenealis, not connected, you can't check .. just believe it.
Vintage
I looked at myself in mvideo hansa ZWM4577WH, I liked the price, the width is 45 as needed, the equipment of this company is already in the house, so I don’t worry about the quality. Two things worry me: who has Khans' cars: do they work quietly? And I wonder if there are enough programs in the one that I found, there are 5. There is no experience in using the dishwasher yet
Bijou
Quote: Vintage
are there enough programs, in the one that I found, there are 5 of them.
The main thing is that among them there is one that will be most convenient for you to use.) And you don't really know this in advance - for example, I regularly read that many people wash everything in a row on Eco-50 or something similar for about an hour. , and I have almost nothing washed on this. And I have been washing Auto-55-65 for 3 hours for many years.

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