Dishwasher selection (2)

Hello everyone! Help me figure it out. I only use the dishwasher for a week Veko 5835 built-in 60, what needs to be adjusted if there is water on the dishes, especially in the lower basket, is it as if it is underdried or what?

People, remember I complained that dishes do not dry well in my Boshik? I was then advised to set up intensive drying - this partially solved the problem, but still the drops remained and the dishwasher was all wet inside .. I was just disappointed in it. Let me remind you that I have a built-in, but while the kitchen was being renovated, it stood separately and I used it. Two weeks ago, we "built it in" as expected. Usually I put the dishes in the evening, after all the dinners, snacks, teas, that is, closer to midnight, and take them out in the morning. So the next morning I just went nuts !! The dishes were completely dry and warm (!), The machine inside was absolutely dry !! And now it always is. So, in my case, the problem was incorrect operation.
Thanks everyone for the help

Recently I experienced a triumph. When I bought my PM everything, everything, everything was twisted with a finger at my temple. How much was said, said. And then relatives and acquaintances began to acquire cars. And recently, the most ardent opponent of PM, while washing the dishes, said in her hearts: "These dishes hesitated, at least buy a dishwasher." At that moment, the victory hymn played in my head. But as a well-mannered girl, I smiled politely.

[Irina]

Irina, and because of the PMM, many friends still consider me an inveterate lazy person.

Yeah, that too. Until now, as a saying "Well, of course, you have a dishwasher ..."

When I bought my first automatic washing machine, no one even had a clue what it was. And they also twisted at my temple behind my back, then I heard an ocean of caustic comments and diagnoses addressed to me. And what time has shown ?! Over time, perceptions about dishwashers will change.

Hello everyone! I used to be skeptical about dishwashers, all my life I considered them an excess: they take up a lot of space, and make noise, and work for a long time, and they need a special tool, and they spend electricity in addition to water ... And here, in general, I recently read that it turns out that they use less water than a manual wash. Is it more economical? What about noise and speed?

It is impossible to say categorically about the noise. For example, built-in units are less audible than freestanding ones. I have a desktop PM sound as if someone is washing in the shower. current does not sing Over time, we got used to it, now we run it even at night.
And for the duration of the wash, yes. It was not a pleasant discovery for me that washing can take 2.3 hours. Of course for a long time. But again, adjust yourself and start the machine when convenient. Sometimes I don't turn it on for several days, I wash it with my hands. And then how he tramples the duck, mine and mine.

washing machines, after all, are different, in terms of noise and washing speed. Choose the model with the lowest noise and everything is ok.

If there is a sufficient amount of dishes, then you will not notice this (speed), and if there is not enough, then of course there will be inconveniences.

I am still enjoying my new PMM. I should have taken it earlier when the kids were still young. And my husband did not mind. Then we looked after the desktop. But I also thought it was overkill.

I apologize in advance for the stupid question ...
when they write 6 sets, it means that 6 soup bowls + 6 dessert bowls + 6 cups + 6 forks + 6 spoons, do I understand correctly? only 6?
or 1 set means 6 pieces,
and when they say 6 sets, is it roughly 36 plates?

I have a narrow machine, the upper basket is usually lowered, cups from 15 to 22 fit only at the top, plates (I counted the holes - about 30 pieces, plus a couple of cutting boards, a bowl and a lid. Spoons, forks, sorry, I didn’t count. And this is only one bookmark, usually in the evening. In the morning after breakfast, cooking, when everyone has gone, a little smaller. There are four of us. The pans are not mine, it's a pity, Ikeevskaya has apparently not a very strong coating, rivets are worn out, and in light of recent events, it is not profitable to change often. I rarely use pots, usually multi (they are not mine in pmm), I also stuff the usual ones in. So I have 10 sets, I think it plows for 15, at least !!!

[redleafa]

redleafa, and how many kits does the manufacturer say?

10 beko

But I also thought it was overkill

I thought so too. It's good that my husband, an oriental man, did not listen to the stupid woman and bought a typewriter himself immediately after the wedding.
By the way, I have been in Turkey for 20 years, and during this time I have never met a family without a dishwasher.

I gave my son for his birthday in November, and I am still delighted. My daughter was walking past the kitchen, and I was talking to cars, my beloved girls, assistants. She says, Mom, do you have one girl? And I gru, what have you got to do with it? : lol: I have a washing machine and a girl's dishwasher. I twisted it at my temple.

Does anyone imagine how you can live without a washing machine? Unlikely. The same is with the PMM. While you live without her, you do not understand how bad you live. It's not even just that a lot of time is freed up. It is necessary to take into account both the qualitatively different level of cleanliness of the dishes and the economy of water. Also, think about your favorite pens.

[gala10]

gala10, I support 100% !!!

Yuganna, when they write 6 sets, they mean the European standard, that is, 1-11 items, and 6-66 something like that.

And also think about your favorite pens

And if you have a dishwasher, you need to think about handles. Not everyone is washed in the car. There is also a countertop, a stove, vegetables and fruits. Gloves are a shitty little thing in my kitchen. Even going on a visit I put a couple in my purse.

Gloves are a shitty little thing in my kitchen. Even going on a visit I put a couple in my purse.

Intrigued ... And what can you do while visiting them?

[Antonina]

Antonina, in case you need to help the hostess in the kitchen

The girls, after reading your reviews, bought themselves a dishwasher. I have a desktop BOSCH. It can cut the washing time by half. I washed all the dishes, including the jug from under the water filter. Shone like a crystal. And earlier it had to be changed every 2-3 years. Any lime deposits were very badly washed off. There is also a function for rinsing dishes in this machine, if suddenly by the night there is not enough for a full wash. Very comfortably.

[Lilida]

Lilida, well, let's go to Temko desktop PM. Very much for me to potryndet on this topic Nuna. I also have a desktop Bosch, but there are no such functions.

To be honest, I don't care how much time she washes. Because she does it WITHOUT me.))) In addition, I have a car with the ability to connect hot water to it. My water is not centralized, but not a column either. Boiler. That is, she does not spend electrics on heating. It's just that water is being drawn from the boiler. The temperature there is 55 degrees. So the effect is better. rinsing is already in warm water, and not to drive cold fat.

I have had dishwashers for over 10 years. But no one has ever told me that PMM is an excess or a whim. Then everyone bought cars: mom, sister, friends. Almost all are dishwashed.

Hello everyone! I used to be skeptical about dishwashers, all my life I considered them an excess: they take up a lot of space, and make noise, and work for a long time, and a special tool is needed, and they use electricity in addition to water ... And here, in general, I recently read that it turns out that they use less water than a manual wash. Is it more economical? What about noise and speed?

Yes, you're right) modern dishwashers help save not only time, but also energy.I have Hans, I bought it not so long ago and, on the whole, I'm happy) There is little noise, and as for the speed, you still have time to do much more while the dishes are being washed.

What price did you charge? Otherwise I would not want to take a very expensive one ...

[Vintage]

Vintage, I just monitored the stores and bought the cheapest one on sale. I have had it for 5 years, TTT.
I have a strong allergy to any kind of chemistry, so there was no need, no, no question. I spent so much money on gloves, medicine for allergies and dermatitis - that I could change dishwashers with this money every 5 years.

Has anyone dealt with this PMM BOSCH SMV 53L30?
Interested in reviews

[Scarecrow]

Scarecrow, why drive fat with cold water? I rinse with hot water in the usual mode, but in the nursery, in general, it is scalded.

I gave my son for his birthday in November, and I am still delighted. My daughter was walking past the kitchen, and I was talking to cars, my beloved girls, helpers. She says, Mom, do you have one girl? And I gru, what have you got to do with it? : lol: I have a washing machine and a girl's dishwasher. Twisted at the temple.

Somehow our semiautomatic washing machine broke down, and my mother resisted, I don't want, she says, an automatic machine. Mom's uncle looked at this debate and just gave it to Bosch, a machine gun. And Lyusik (his wife) says: "Well, how could you not want a washing machine, this is the second woman in the house, just!" My mother got used to Boshik, she fell in love with him. And then my brother and I decided to buy a dishwasher, no longer listening to anything, silently pinned it home. And again they called Lyusya and the uncle for help. Lyusik again starts up the record about the second woman, and I say: "Aunt Lucy, you said that the washer is the second woman in the house, what kind of a mess then ?!" to which the uncle stated weightily that the washer was the first, as it turned out. About the numbering of Lucy herself, I wisely did not ask.

Has anyone dealt with this PMM BOSCH SMV 53L30?
Interested in reviews

I can't say anything about this one, I have SMV69T40RU \ 44, full-size, fully recessed.

I have 53 models, only M and a narrow fit. What reviews do you want?

[m0use]

m0use, M00 or what? And How? Do you like it, are you satisfied? Recommend? And then I've been like a Buridan donkey for six months

Yes, M00. I have no complaints about it. When it was not built-in, it was not very dry, drops remained on the dishes as soon as it was built in, it dries perfectly. I also switched on intensive drying, put the sink overnight, in the morning at 10-11 the dishes are still warm. Yesterday I loaded everything up to capacity in two rows (there were guests), I thought that it wouldn’t wash, but she, clever girl, washed everything perfectly I use pills, on the advice of our members of the forum, I break them in half, halves are enough for daily washing.

And I bought the Hansa ZWM 4577 WH model, they took thousands for 18 in MVideo.

Girls, dear, tell me, pzh., Who came across .... Dishwasher ka I have about 2 months Beko 2531 ... the first month of soap is excellent, I could not get enough of it .... but the last washes are just awful !!! Leaves stains on transparent dishes, fingerprints and all dishes are completely white ... The detergent and rinse aid are the same as in the first month, the salt is completely filled up .... I did the special cleaning. means, no change. In the internet I read that you need to set the correct salt consumption to change the hardness of the water ... (we have very hard water), but how to set it up is not specified anywhere ... Tell me, pzh., I have no strength

Well, logically, of course, the matter is in the incorrectly set stiffness. But again, the soap is good for a month, but now it got worse. I don’t know what the catch is.

[Olga_85]

Olga_85 I also have PMM VEKO, and when I needed to set stiffness Dmitry helped me, maybe this message will help you:

1 strip - r1
2 - r2
3- r3
4-r4
5-r5
Set by buttons. While holding the program button, turn on the button for turning on the machine. R appears on the tab ... Use the program selection button to select the desired value. Press the start button to memorize.Press the off button.
Press the key combination again to check the selected parameter. Look like that's it

I also have PMM VEKO, and when I needed to set stiffness Dmitry helped me, maybe this message will help you:
Thank you very much ... now I have done everything you wrote .... my default was 1, but it should be 5 .... I started the sink - at the end I will write if it helped.

Girls, it didn't help. What could be?

[Olga_85]

Olga_85, wait a few more washes. Not every wash can be regenerated. Or wash it with a tablet for now.

Hello and I have the same problem with a Beko machine. First, I tried to change the rinse aid level. And decreased, and increased there were no changes. Then I set the rigidity in a new way, because my kid could push the buttons. It helped, but not as it was before. Then I washed it with a pill (I was left alone) and saw the difference. The circles have lightened and you can see how the white bloom seems to be scruffled. Now I use another tool, not ideal, of course, but better than the previous one. But I'm still wondering if someone from the experienced can tell you what.

My sister and I played with powders and settings, the quality of the sink did not suit. We switched to pills. No problem. The dishes are well washed. In this case, salt is required, rinse aid is at a minimum.

Girls, I hasten to report success !!! After setting the hardness at about the 5th wash, everything fell into place !!! First, I set the maximum hardness - the quality did not satisfy, I reduced it by 1 and the rinse aid was removed almost to a minimum - and Hurray, ... all the dishes shine and, most importantly, WITHOUT FLAVOR !!! Thank you all for your help, I am very grateful to you

Two years ago I chose PMM. I chose Siemens. The sellers unanimously insisted that Bosch, Siemens and Neff had merged into one concern; parts are made at the same factories, only the price and the inscription of the model differ. Tk had a bad experience with a Bosch washing machine - it was too economical, I had to turn on all the additional functions to wash the laundry - choosing a floor at Siemens. I took the simplest one for 12 sets. So she didn't want to wash the stainless steel pots. They called the master - after the examination, he issued a conclusion - everything functions according to the regulations, but in words he added: if you want to wash stainless steel pots, buy PMM with additional functions: hygiene (longer heating) and an intensive zone. Siemens went to the store, and Neff became my favorite. But I would also like the Soak button!
If someone chooses by function - the beam on the floor is very convenient for installation!

))
Cool post. Bosch Siemens Neff is the same thing. Negative from Bosch, we will not buy it, Siemens did not like it, but Neff pleases. Where is the logic?

[Bijou]

Bijou, well, what are you so categorical. Orange, tangerine, lemon - citrus fruits, but I like tangerines more than orange.

[Svetlana 73]

Svetlana 73, Svetlana, after all, you can choose Bosch and Siemens both with an intensive zone and with hygiene and with a beam on the floor. Okay, negative from Bosch, but I did not understand about Siemens.

[Annutka]

AnnutkaAt that time, I didn’t have such a complete set of Siemens, but I wanted it now and urgently! Well, I also want to believe that Neff is collected only in Germany. They also say that Neff is a Premium class technique, although I also don't understand how goods assembled from the same spare parts can be of different classes

Why is it negative from Bosch? Boshik has been working for me for 6 years and I am very pleased with him.