Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

Having gone a little deeper into the topic, I realized that I do not need a dispenser for yeast, but for nuts, etc. I do. And I didn't want to overpay for the metal case. In general, what I bought and bought.

Good CONSCIOUS choice! Congratulations on the great stove!

I want to put in a word about the metal case: This is a thin sheet of metal, it heats up when the HP is in operation and there are stickers on the surface on all sides - "Caution - Hot".



On this stainless steel, like on any other, fingerprints and so on and so on easily remain.

I bought my stove at an auction from a private trader, and so, the stove was apparently uranilized, or leaned, or hit ... in the side, the whole body was already distorted, BUT (!!!) - the body did not break, but only bent. If there was plastic, it would have broken or cracked exactly from such a blow.

Added Saturday 04 Feb 2017 04:44 PM

I have been on the forum for only a couple of days, but it feels like the atmosphere here is friendly and warm, like in a real bakery

A very good comparison! Are you a baker?

If there was plastic, it would have broken or cracked exactly from such a blow.

One should be happy not for the surviving corps, but for the bread maker, which did not weld "from such a blow." Protect the bread maker from drops and bumps, then the body will not be damaged. Even glass.

Good CONSCIOUS choice! Congratulations on the great stove!

I want to put in a word about the metal case: This is a thin sheet of metal, it heats up when the HP is in operation and there are stickers on the surface on all sides - "Caution - Hot".



On this stainless steel, like on any other, fingerprints and so on and so on easily remain.

I bought my stove at an auction from a private trader, and so, the stove was apparently uranilized, or leaned, or hit ... in the side, the whole body was already distorted, BUT (!!!) - the body did not break, but only bent. If there was plastic, it would have broken or cracked exactly from such a blow.

Added Saturday 04 Feb 2017 04:44 PM

A very good comparison! Are you a baker?

Yes, it's true, many wrote about the prints on the stainless steel case. I have a coffee grinder and a microwave oven, you will be tortured to clean.
No, alas, but not a baker). I know how to make cheese, but I have never tried baking bread. True, once I prepared khychins for myself, saying that it was not the gods who burn the pots, but the belly that rumbled (not from hunger) for the rest of the day suggested that yes, maybe not the gods, but certainly not me).

[Vital]

Vital, so we were glad that everything ended so well. We fixed the dent ourselves. And our stove always stands in one place. Actually I have not seen 2512 with a plastic case
Of course, you will not get a burn from heating the case, but a shock is possible, especially if there are children.

There is also such a nuance: when the stove stands on one natural place for a long time, well, there with small movements of a few centimeters, the grooves on its rubber feet are clogged with various debris that lives on the work surfaces (crumbs, flour, dust ...). Then the HP starts to "dance" - to move during work and in general it is easier to move on the surface. You just need to periodically wipe the legs from dirt and dry adhesions. Then the rubber on the legs is more "intimate" and firmly in contact with the surface on which the HP stands

Added Saturday 04 Feb 2017 05:11 PM

ZanZibar, What is your name? We are turning more and more by names here

[Waist]

Waist, Natasha, happy purchase. I probably would not dare to buy a battered one

I noticed a wonderful nuance, Natasha !!! I'll wipe it right now. Exactly! For some time now, she began to budge! Thanks for the tip!

[ZanZibar]

ZanZibar, and from me to Welkam !!!
We are glad to new and good people. And it's great if it is combined in one person ...

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, Thank you!

HP had to be bought and it was possible to buy a simple trouble-free 2500 right next door with all the guarantees. But I suddenly felt the urge to look at the auction and there was 2512 at a reasonable price, little used. I really wanted to have mode for proofing - this is in European 2512 - a mode for preparing a yeast starter (24 hours with a temperature of 28-30 * C). Favorite "Basic", "Italian" and "Basic Fast" (I knead the dough like that, immediately turn on) is in this oven, and I have reduced the rest of the conventions to "close and will send normally from England to Ireland". The fact that she turned out to be broken, after analyzing everything, I came to the conclusion that she was hit while packing or even earlier. With the seller it turned out: "Politely and delicately was dishonest, so" the eyes blurred ", but in general everything turned out quite well and I'm happy with that.

Added Saturday 04 Feb 2017 05:37 PM

Vitaly, glad to be useful!
Marishik, Hi!

Natasha, that is, are you again with an assistant? Great! Very happy for all of you!

[Waist]

Waist, Natasha, that's because of such people I'm afraid b. at.
The most important thing is that the bread is baked and the hostess is happy

[Natalia]

Natalia, good afternoon, glad to hear ~ to see!) I bake bread Daily .. just 1 hour 15 minutes before the end of baking!
Today on French baking ... I haven't used it for a long time.

Added Saturday 04 Feb 2017 5:57 PM

I put the HP on a silicone mat.
Very comfortably!)))

[ZanZibar]

ZanZibar, What is your name? We are turning more and more by names here

Murat). Pleased to meet you! The profile has been corrected.

[Murat]

Murat, I also have 2511. Almost a year. I am very, very happy. The dispenser, although rarely, I use. A handy thing.

Then the HP starts to "dance" - to move during work and in general it is easier to move on the surface. You just need to periodically wipe the legs from dirt and dry adhesions. Then the rubber on the legs is more "intimate" and firmly in contact with the surface

This is me for this thought of yours ...
You know, she doesn't dance on it at all, doesn't fidget, doesn't tremble ... And the most useful thing ~ t. because the mat "sticks" to the table well ... it creates some kind of barrier from crumbs, dust, etc.
Less often you have to lift, rearrange the wash ...
On the rug itself there are sometimes traces of uh ... some kind of soot.
Surprisingly, nothing else.
And when she stood right on the tabletop, then YES!))) More crumbs were clogged.

[Murat]

Murat, I also have 2511. Almost a year. I am very, very happy. The dispenser, although rarely, I use. A handy thing.

And I think he will be very often involved). I can't wait to try all the recipes with additives).
When he was picking up the bread maker in the store, one of the consultants said "The coolest machine, they did the right thing that they bought it! Be sure to try the dough for dumplings, she cooks it superbly!").

she cooks it in general superbly! ").

I have 2501, cooks too
Greetings, Murat)))

I bake bread Daily .. just 1 hour 15 minutes left before the end of baking!

And I now bake it, only on the Basic, I like it of medium tenderness. French is a bit tough for me

I put the HP on a silicone mat.

With a rug is also an option And I'm a minimalist

On the rug itself, sometimes there are traces of uh ... some kind of soot.

Soot is a waste that spills out when the drive rotates. Well this one... All the same, there is production from friction, or as it is called correctly.

Added Saturday 04 Feb 2017 06:29 PM

Murat). Pleased to meet you!

Mutually!

And it seems to me that he will be very often involved with me)

If you like bread with additives, you will be happy. But in my family they do not like it and I do not use it. Although you must try to bake a muffin with raisins in HP, otherwise I'm in the oven

I have 2501, cooks too
Greetings, Murat)))

Thank you. My regards

[Waist]

Waist, Natasha, don't you like herbs too? I baked with oregano (to the dispensary), I liked it. Didn't like the bread with olives. I also baked with sun-dried tomatoes, too, not that.

Natasha, clever girl! : drinks_milk: I wiped my legs and ... well, finally! Earlier in the morning I see that it is standing somewhat obliquely (crawled during kneading). Aligned it with the movement of a finger. Rrraz! And she stood up straight. Now what a finger! Do not move with two hands! I had to raise it to put it straight.

Earlier in the morning I see that it is standing somewhat obliquely (crawled during kneading).

This is where the danger lies - it can also "throw" down from the table. I stand on the edge, by her feet

Natasha, don't you like herbs too?

I did not try the oven myself, but I did not like the purchased ones with additives. We like Provencal herb crackers, we must try them in bread. With tomatoes, olives, nuts ... we somehow nope. Probably not grown up to such exquisite tastes

Today I baked my first bread. Without further ado, the very first program is wheat bread. All ingredients are strictly as in the recipe for HP itself. The bread turned out to be lush, homogeneous inside. I put the crust on the middle one, but it came out quite pale. In principle, in consistency, in shape, and God bless her - there are no complaints about the color of the crust. But to the taste ... He, how to describe it clearly, with some sourness. Not explicit, but it is. Perhaps you need to put less yeast? I poured them strictly according to the recipe. Packmaia yeast, dry. I ask for advice.

[ZanZibar]

ZanZibar, baked on water?

[ZanZibar]

ZanZibar, baked on water?

Yes, as it was written in the recipe.

Is the flour not expired?
I baked with this yeast, there was no aftertaste. I use the low-yeast mode.

Is the flour not expired?
I baked with this yeast, there was no aftertaste. I use the low-yeast mode.

The flour is two months old. Yeast seems to be fresh too. They really ended there, tomorrow I will have to buy.
And if in this program you use not two teaspoons of yeast, but for example one and a half? Or is everything strict here?

I put the crust on the middle one, but it came out quite pale.

Murat, this is a feature of the new stove, the shadows have not yet "flared up". Gradually, everything will reach its working state, but for now, expose a dark crust. There are many who did this, this is normal

The first time, do it strictly according to the recipe, write down the result (so as not to forget and take into account the next baking). And bake the next time with the changes you want to add to the recipe, for example, put less yeast or salt, etc.

Packmaia yeast, dry. I ask for advice.

There is a topic on the forum about different yeast

Yeast - types, use, bookmark, selection

[Waist]

Waist, Thank you, reassured).
$ vetLanaSo I will. Next time I'll put a little less yeast and less sugar.

There is more about yeast

How to test and activate yeast?

About yeast - discussion, exchange of experience

Murat, what size did you set?
To be honest, I haven't baked recipes for the stove for a long time ...

All Natashenkin, Thalia, bake every day.

But, I remember, I didn't pour 400 flour (size M) and a teaspoon of yeast, always a little less.
I also think that even the next piece of bread will work out for others, not to mention the next.

[Murat]

And if in this program you use not two teaspoons of yeast, but for example one and a half? Or is everything strict here?

Murat, in my opinion, you confused a little with the amount of yeast. The instructions say that for the "main" program you need to put 1 tsp. yeast, and 2 tsp. - this is for the program "main fast". This program is half the time, so you need to add more yeast. I usually put even a little less than a teaspoon of yeast. Good luck with learning, the stove is wonderful!

And I'm all according to the recipe: 1h. l. I put the crust both dark and medium. Light was only once - in the "Fast" mode. The color of the crust also depends on the amount of sugar. I spied on this from the repairmen in their manual.
Here, casual with a medium crust.
🔗

[Murat]

Murat, what size did you set?

XL size

Murat, in my opinion, you confused a little with the amount of yeast. The instructions say that for the "main" program you need to put 1 tsp. yeast, and 2 tsp. - this is for the program "main fast". This program is half the time, so you need to add more yeast. I usually put even a little less than a teaspoon of yeast. Good luck with learning, the stove is wonderful!

Thank you for your wish).
I put the yeast according to the recipe. But see for yourself.
upd. sorry, I can't insert a picture, I'll write like this:

"Plain white bread, select menu 01 or 03".
M L XL
Yeast - 2 tsp
Yeast - R 3 tsp
Further on the recipe. I don't know what letter B means, like letter R, but I chose the minimum dosage, i.e. 2.

I don't know what letter B means, like letter R

Yeast R and B and their insertion in the dough In recipes for baking bread from the instructions for bread makers, yeast R and B are often mentioned. What is this yeast? This is the same yeast that you are used to using to bake your bread. The only difference is in the dosage of yeast when baking bread according to different programs. 1. The amount of yeast B is intended for baking bread according to the Basic (basic) cycle (program) BREAD. 2. The amount of yeast R is intended for baking bread according to the accelerated cycle (program) BREAD RAPID. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=4844.0

I will switch to low-yeast. His program lasts an hour longer, but yeast is just a teaspoon.

[Vitaly]

Here, casual with a medium crust.

Vitalywhat a beautiful bread! Is it white bread or gray bread?

Gray, Mashenka. 50/350

Hello everyone!!! The sd-zb2502 Bread Maker inherited from the Chinese emperor. In this case, I am still an inexperienced newbie, Therefore, I would like to turn to knowledgeable people, can someone tell me something, give good advice or recommendations about the intricacies of this matter? In particular, I am very interested in the simplest kneading and baking of rye bread, since since I understood from the recipe from the book nothing good will work ... I would be very grateful for your help

[DARK STEPPE EAGLE]

I'm still an inexperienced newbie in this business

DARK STEPPE EAGLE, Welcome to our forum.

since I understood from the recipe from the book, nothing good will come of it

Why do you think so? There are very good recipes in the Panasonic recipe book.
Read this thread: HOW TO MAKE BREAD IN A HOMEMADE BREAD https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=7271.0
You need to start with simple recipes. Good luck!

[Mode - "basic", size - XL, crust color - to choose from.1 1/4 tsp yeast (difference as described above)600 gr flour2 tsp sugar1 1/2 tsp salt25 g butter]

I will switch to low-yeast. His program lasts an hour longer, but yeast is just a teaspoon.

Marat, what kind of yeast do you use? They are VERY different now, for different baked goods, for different baking times, and so on. Perhaps they just aren't for a bread machine. Many factors can influence the final result.
For low-yeast, I think there will be a lot of your Pakmaya if you put it in 1 tsp.

In my European instructions:
2500 - for 600 grams of flour - 1 1/4 tsp of yeast.
2512 - for the same 600 g - 1 1/2 tsp (the kneading is more intensive and 3 kneading, I think that's why there is more yeast).
The recipes are exactly the same:
Mode - "basic", size - XL, crust color - to choose from.
1 1/4 tsp yeast (difference as described above)
600 gr flour
2 tsp sugar
1 1/2 tsp salt
25 g butter

DARK STEPPE EAGLE, welcome to our forum.

Svetlana, thank you very much for the advice, I will try to sort it out somehow, for me it is still a dark forest and everything seems very difficult

[DARK STEPPE EAGLE]

DARK STEPPE EAGLE, I assure you that it only seems like I started with program 01 and everything turned out great! Now I bet for the night, I lay everything on the machine (instinct) - my hands do everything themselves. In the morning - ready-made bread. Above is his photo. For the first time, beginners are confused by the amount of yeast R and B. R - this is for accelerated baking - I do not recommend it. It is imperative to have an electronic scale for weighing flour or pressed yeast, and a sieve (but not a sieve!) For sifting flour. And you will succeed! Good luck to you!

[DARK STEPPE EAGLE]

DARK STEPPE EAGLE, in fact, everything is simple. Do you have a scale? It's convenient with them. But you can use a measuring cup.
Read about the kolobok, watch the video. And start baking.
Put everything in the oven bowl according to the recipe (start with wheat bread), on the bottom - yeast, then flour, salt, sugar, butter, water, choose the program, size, crust color, and start.
Delicious bread will be there in a few hours.

I really do not advise measuring flour with a measuring cup! Only scales! Somewhere here this moment was discussed. Surprises are possible.

DARK STEPPE EAGLE, I assure you that it only seems like I started with program 01 and everything turned out great! Now I bet at night, I lay everything on the machine (instinct) - my hands do everything themselves. In the morning - ready-made bread. Above is his photo. For the first time, beginners are confused by the amount of yeast R and B. R - this is for accelerated baking - I do not recommend it. It is imperative to have an electronic scale for weighing flour or pressed yeast, and a sieve (but not a sieve!) For sifting flour. And you will succeed! Good luck to you!

Thank you, I will definitely take note of the recommendations !!! Well, I'm still a long way from the machine, my baking experience is still only two loaves of egg bread,

Added Wednesday 08 Feb 2017 10:26 PM

(start with wheat bread), at the bottom - yeast, then flour, salt, sugar, butter, water, choose the program, size, crust color, and start.
Delicious bread will be in a few hours.

Svetlana, I have already managed to appreciate some of the delights of a bread machine, the bread is really excellent, I have never eaten so delicious in my life

Dear owners of SD-2502, tell me, is the mixer drive in your oven plastic or metal? Thank you!

Judging here so post is most likely plastic. It is unlikely that the insides of close ones are different.

I really do not advise measuring flour with a measuring cup! Scales only

Yes, electronic scales are much better.

Bucket drive unit
the same plastic knot about which they have been selling lately, forgetting to say that the design of the knot has not changed at least since the SD-200, and this has been somewhere since the end of the 80s. Again, the knot is specially made of carbolite plastic, it plays knot "foreseen breaking", when overloaded should break.