Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

why not dissolve the same sugar in liquid beforehand?

I always do that. More salt. For some reason, it seems even tastier ..

I always do that. More salt. For some reason, it seems even tastier ..

And I do so

: girl_red: This autumn they brought so much honey to me in gratitude that I bake only on it.

girls, here I got my stove sd 2501 beauty. already 2 times baked milk, everything turned out great, I'm not overjoyed. And today I baked a fruit one, though I didn't dare to throw raisins into the dispenser, I waited until the lid clicks and then I threw it back. So I wanted to ask, and then the dispenser should close back? mine remained open.
and it seemed that the crust was pale because of this. the muffin bread itself is delicious

The dispenser does not close itself, there is no mechanism for this. If you want, you can manually close it yourself.

Galina, thank you very much (huge) for such a quick response. straight stone from the soul
but this does not affect the color of the crust? it just seemed to me that due to the fact that the dispenser is open during baking, it seems that the thermal insulation is not so good and because of this my crust is pale.

[Irina_Smith]

Irina_SmithWhen the dispenser is open, the top crust may be pale.

Probably a little influenced. I have only used the dispenser a couple of times in all five years, so I can only speculate theoretically. Try to bake the same recipe on the same prog, just close the dispenser manually after clicking this and compare the result.
The color of the crust, in my opinion, depends more on the amount of baking in the recipe and the color of the crust exposed. Also try greasing the top before baking.

[never]

And I never did not use the dispenser and the crust of the bread is wonderful. It’s so good that I didn’t have it!

In new stoves (someone already wrote), the crust turns out to be lighter.
In any case, if it seems a little pale, set the crust to the maximum next time.

if it seems a little pale - set the crust to the maximum next time.

We don't know the recipe for the pale crust. If there is a lot of sugar and oil in the dough, then at the maximum the sides can burn, so you need to advise carefully.

Probably a little influenced. I have only used the dispenser a couple of times in all five years, so I can only speculate theoretically. Try to bake the same recipe on the same prog, just close the dispenser manually after clicking this and compare the result.
The color of the crust, in my opinion, depends more on the amount of baking in the recipe and the color of the crust exposed. Also try greasing the top before baking.

Galina, only a light and medium crust comes out there, and at least kill me I don't remember what I chose. Here I am, masha, confused. The muffins were a lot of great sides. Okay, I'll try to bake it again with an open dispenser, and I'll even load raisins into it (walk-walk), and then we'll see. In general, I bought this model not because of the dispenser, but because of additional programs and a spatula for rye bread. But how convenient it is when he threw everything, and a wonderful rich bread is ready for tea. book recipe (basic with raisins)

[Masinen]

Masinen, Mash, if the yeast needs to work a little longer, then I do this: I put the yeast (all) + 100-150-200 grams of flour (when how) and pour about 100 grams of the total volume of liquid (how much flour I put) and + a little sugar from the total. Then I turn on program 19 ("Pizza" - where there is only kneading) for literally 5-7 minutes so that everything is mixed.I turn off the program, fill up all the remaining ingredients and set the desired program. Thus, while standing and equalizing the temperatures, the yeast is already starting to work. And it is very clearly visible when the yeast works and when it does not, because the bun manages to grow from 1.5 to 2 times during this hour. (I also use LUX yeast) ...

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta *, thanks for the advice!

It turns out dough))

It turns out dough))

yeah .. that's right. Now I bake almost all bread this way, because it is mainly based on fresh yeast, and in general it makes bread tastier this way.

Good evening! On December 7, we bought a Panasonic 2501. The cotton stands in a large room and for the first time baking bread, the batch was not heard at all, although we were sitting at the computers a meter away. The second time, the x / n began to creak wildly.
Here is a link to record 30 sec. video (this is the second stage of mixing - less creaks here) - 🔗
What do you think is a problem, marriage? Do you need to take x / p while there is still 1 week? Or maybe it will pass by itself?
I just read reviews that Panasonic is famous for its quiet mix.

[Olga]

Olga, and you put the bucket correctly, maybe you didn't turn it all the way?

[Taia]

Taia, first I put it at a slight angle, and then I turn it clockwise. It seems correct.
This is not the first time this kind of kneading ... I baked bread 4 times in a week and squeaks like that three times
And the scapula itself seems to me to spin a little ...

Taia, at first I put it at a slight angle, and then I turn it clockwise. It seems correct.

Yes, right.

[Taia]

Taia, and you baked a cupcake in Panasika?
I remember it didn't work out in mine)
How about?

[Maria]

Mariayou mean muffin dough? No, I don’t bake. I don't like this kind of baked goods.

Well, yes, cupcake.
I usually bake in the oven.
It just became interesting.

Well, yes, cupcake.
I usually bake in the oven.
It just became interesting.

I rarely bake them in the oven, and only in small portions in muffin tins.

And the scapula itself seems to me to spin a little ...

If the bucket is in the stove, then it should spin tightly. (you rotate the motor).
And the creak ... I went through about three months by myself ...

please tell me what is the difference between the PANASONIC SD-2511 and 2512?

Fundamental differences: color (stainless steel) and the presence of a dispenser for yeast in 2512. I think so.

And the scapula itself seems to me to spin a little ...

Do you wash the bucket inside after each time?
it is necessary to wait until the container has cooled completely, soak it a little with water, wash it well so that there is no hint of the previous baking anywhere.

my daughter-in-law did not wash the bucket at all (although the HP is completely different, but a decent TM)
in general, she was surprised and blamed the technique when the bottom of her bucket started flowing in the area of ​​the scapula, and then it broke altogether. I observed there more than once with the dried parts of the previous baking ...

I have the same hp as you.
I fill the bucket just starting from the fact that I pour vegetable oil on the spatula itself, then water and everything else. ingredients. th-th-th, everything is ok

[diveroni]

diveroni, I don't wash my bucket either. Only after the jam is necessary. After kneading or baking, wipe it with a dry cloth.

[diveroni]

diveroni, I don't wash my bucket either. Only after the jam is necessary. After kneading or baking, wipe it with a dry cloth.

I do not pretend to be true, but you never know, she told me what she had seen.
mine, too, is often clean after baking, but I still rinse it, knowing the sad not my experience (there, the hp stuck specifically)

So I also only share my feelings. Private opinion, no more

All the best!
I wanted to buy a Panasonic SD-ZB2502 as a New Year's present for myself and my wife, but for obvious reasons I can only buy a Panasonic SD-2500WTS for this money.
Actually the question is, how much do they differ apart from the color and the yeast dispenser?

Yes, they are no different in anything else. Very good stove! At the very same. I love her dearly!

Ie 2500 from 2501 do not differ in anything at all? (Except for the price)

actually the question is, how much do they differ apart from the color and the yeast dispenser?

2500 - there is no spatula for baking rye types of dough, and there are no such programs. Both dispensers are missing (raisins will need to be added on call, yeast down, under flour). In principle, rye can be baked in 2500. And even with an ordinary spatula. On a combination of modes. But you have to follow the process.

2501 - same as 2500 + rye spatula, programs for it, nut / raisin dispenser.

2502 - same as 2501, plus yeast dispenser and color.

Doesn't it work on 2501? The model is successful, not new, there are often discounts on it. It is likely that you will be able to catch her for a reasonable price.

: ozhidanie: Discounts before the new year? 2501 from 10,000 rubles.
A week ago 2502 for 7200.
Until I get used to these prices, there will be no joy from the purchase. For 10,000 I do not need a bread maker, I will knead in the old-fashioned way with a kneading machine.

[svarnoy3]

svarnoy3, I bought myself 2510. Very cool HP!
Truth managed to order in Mvideo before the price increase.

[svarnoy3]

svarnoy3, I don't know where you are geographically, but now on the Mvideo website (Moscow) - Panasonic SD-2501WTS and Panasonic SD-ZB2502BTS - 3495 rubles (sale of leftovers in one particular store in the city). 2512 - 7990 rubles, but also in retail.

In other stores, prices have certainly skyrocketed. In eldorada 12th model for 13 thousand?

[Mams]

Mams, I'll take it in Moscow.
Now I'm trying to get through to them, but I can't believe it, everywhere from 10,000 and they have 3495.
Business cannot be fooled.

[svarnoy3]

svarnoy3, these are leftovers. Maybe she was left alone somewhere in the White dacha.

[Mams]

MamsFor such an amount, the main thing is what would be left. Yes, the white dacha is closest to me.
I got through, neither the availability nor the amount they can say on the phone.
Tomorrow afternoon, I'll ring specific stores.

[svarnoy3]

svarnoy3, these are leftovers. Maybe she was left alone somewhere in the White dacha.

Or maybe in the ECB and Novosib there is ... "Overseas, a heifer is a half, but a ruble is transported." ...
Yes-ah! Made us with our Wishlist!

[svarnoy3]

svarnoy3, good luck to you!

[Mams]

Mams, Thank you very much!

[svarnoy3]

svarnoy3, 3500 of them are not present, these are display cases. Not a kit.
I also wanted to buy for 3500. I called them.
1 was at the white dacha and in mytishchi

I called them in the afternoon. They do not know which store is available, they cannot find out, they do not give the phone number of a particular store. Ride all over Moscow, maybe you will find where, but maybe not, I have no desire.
There is also no desire to buy a bread maker for 10,500-14,000 rubles.
There are two ways out: Wait a month until the New Year's excitement subsides and be left without a planned gift for the New Year.
Or buy a non-Panasonic.

[svarnoy3]

svarnoy3, and they told me where the stoves were.
White in Mega Belaya dacha, and black is very far away.

Or buy a non-Panasonic.

No, it's better a little later, but Panasonic. I had LG, this is heaven and earth. I took the 2510 model, proceeding from the cost (this model was cheaper). Very happy with the stove

[svarnoy3]

svarnoy3, it's a pity that it did not work out. Well, you at least tried it. I think we can wait. All the same, in January there will be a decline in sales, there will definitely be discounts

Yes, it didn't work out. And not for the first time!
In 2012, I came to this forum with the question: which Panasonic to choose.
Then I still did not know how the multicooker differs from the bread maker, and that one from the tractor.
After talking and understanding what is what, I made a choice in favor of a multicooker and a separate dough-mixer machine, and then a gas stove with a very good oven was purchased.
And now, using a kneader and an oven with a multicooker in turn, I consciously came back to this branch just for the bread maker!
Iii not cold.

Do not despair! So the time hasn’t come yet. I didn't buy Panasika right away either. When we bought the first stove, in 2008, they stood next to each other in the store, Moulinex 5004 and 257 Pnasonik. Some force led me to Mulik. We lived with him for two years, we even changed the bucket for me under warranty. And yet I came mentally and physically to Panasik.