Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

[Maxim]

Models 2501 and 2500 have no rye blade at all and nothing! People live!

Maxim, but isn't there a "rye" blade in the 2501st?
marinastom, Marin, do you think the 2501st? Did you have a spatula for rye dough?

Isn't there a "rye" blade in 2501?

Of course there is, I just got scratched and I asked how I live without her.
1) on a regular paddle, the load on the shaft increases with rye bread (they say it can stop when kneading)
2) did not find out whether the scratched / notched layer of the anti-burner is very dangerous
PS the anti-cooking layer is very weak here

Yes, I have both shoulder blades. After three uses, the rye bent (uncritically) put it into the drawer and forgot about it.
The main shoulder blade was safely scratched by the dear spouse somewhere in the first month or two after buying the stove. I continue to bake with it, I believe that aluminum, translucent in scratches, is no more harmful than the surrounding "atom of the sphere".

I will ask for the recipe, in the instruction 2501 for Kulich it is written as follows:

• Dry yeast - 2.5 tsp
• Wheat flour - 450g
• Salt - 0.5 tsp
• Eggs - 4pcs
• Sugar - 4 tbsp. l
• Vanillin - 1 tsp
• Butter - 100g
• Citrus juice. - 50ml
• Raisins, candied fruits and nuts - Full dispenser

do you really need to put that much vanillin? this is how much!
in a disposable sachet it is usually poured for 1.5 g, and in a dumpling for 5 g +.

I think it should be about vanilla sugar. If there is so much crystal, the bitterness will be utter!

Who has a Panasonic SD-2500 or 2510 bread maker, can you please tell me what height is obtained with the lid open?

I have sd-zb2512
collected different instructions for stoves
maybe who needs it - take it
There is also a service manul with disassembly 2502
and setting the service mode and more.

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Who has a Panasonic SD-2500 or 2510 bread maker, can you please tell me what height is obtained with the lid open?

I have 2501. Opened lids they have, in my opinion, the same dimensions. Height no more than 63 cm.

[marinastom]

marinastom, Marina, Thank you!!! But it looks like it will not fit me, up to the top shelf 58 cm.

Who has a Panasonic SD-2500 or 2510 bread maker, can you please tell me what height is obtained with the lid open?

Panasonic SD-2500 - height with the lid open 61cm.

[Taia]

Taia, Thank you!!!
But what am I to do now. I would have it just sideways on the shelf, so now it won't open. Here's the problem then.
I decided which stove to buy, so now the snags have appeared. I look at the shelf and don't understand, are Panasonic so huge?
Here I have an LV. So there is still room with the lid open. Here in this place I will have to put Panasonic. There is nowhere else to put.
What, now to choose another stove? Damn, what is that.

[Irina.]

Irina.
put it on the table in the kitchen or screw the shelf where.

[Irina.]

Irina.When I was choosing my first bread maker, I didn't buy Panasonic precisely because of the shape of the case. I don't like him at all. And Sonya became the second bread maker. Now, as in life, the face is not important, the main thing is to do the job, and she does it really well, I only later regretted that I hadn’t bought it right away.
So I toil with its height, when I work I put it on the table, or somewhere else. Well, yes, it's uncomfortable, but I forgive her everything.

It is not convenient to put on the table, there is no possibility to fasten the shelf, they specially bought a cabinet for appliances, and there is no place to put something else.
I went to the store, I’ll see it "live".
But the lid of the 2510 is removable? Maybe then buy it?

[Irina.]

Irina., and the shelf above the "X" place cannot be hung a couple of cm higher? And the wolves would be fed, and the sheep are safe ...

[Marina]

Ltd, Marina!
I saw it by chance. Haven't crossed for a long time.
Does your husband go fishing in winter? Let then here here will look. Have fun. (Women cannot grasp all the nuances in all their glory there.)

Sorry for offtopic.

[Countryman]

Countryman, THANK YOU! I haven't laughed so sadly for a long time. (Sorry for the offtopic ..)

[Marina]

and the shelf above the "X" cannot be hung a couple of cm higher? And the wolves would be fed, and the sheep are safe.

Marina, when we bought the rack, when there was nowhere to put the equipment, then we re-drilled it all so that the airfryer entered, multi, etc. And if we redo it again, then the side walls will be like a sieve.
I decided to order model 2510, we have them in the city, and there it will be seen what and how to make, remake.
Thank you all for your participation and advice !!!

[Countryman]

Countryman, Konstantin, thank you, I laughed with my husband. And also a sad laugh. The husband, it turns out, has already read this work.

Irina, this is how she lives with me. They also measured it out when the micra was hung. And still I had to buy a surge protector so that all the cords would reach the place.

[Irina.]

Irina., I, too, will stick with advice.
Fairy tale
So I decided to buy HP for myself ... If not for this site and would not have thought at all, and then I immediately decided for myself - Pani Sonya and I don't consider anything else. VASHCHE! I bought it. I brought it. Like a spacecraft like. She baked the first bread .... Not only did I love this assistant of mine in absentia, but after the first loaf I was kindled with such passion! and then it turned out that there was absolutely nowhere to put such charm in the kitchen. Without thinking for a long time, I identified my favorite soya in ... the bedroom. Under the dressing table. exactly there she fit in, along with the lid. Even the socket was moved down especially for her! It's just that while I was reading the local reviews, advice, I saw (and more than one) post where the girls complained about the lack of space and identified their devices in the most inappropriate places. So my Lady has been standing in this place for almost two years and wakes me up with a delicious smell!
Honestly, it doesn’t interfere and it fits so well under that table!

and every time I take mine out of the box and put it on the table in the hall, but what do I do? nada! (there are days when I forget to put it in the box - oh!)

on a regular paddle, the load on the shaft increases with rye bread (they say it can stop when kneading

On the contrary ... the usual one is easier to twist. because on a larger lever (length of the blade) there is a larger area of ​​the blade.
Try to twist the spoon in the dough by the handle or by the scoop itself.

Maxim, isn't there a "rye" blade in the 2501st?

maybe there is! in the configuration is not strong.

[marinastom]

marinastom, Marina, it is convenient for you, of course, but we don't have a place to build it.
Irishka CH, Irina, an interesting tale. Doesn't it make a lot of noise when it kneads, does it interfere with sleep?
And I am not different in this either. I already have a kitchenette all over my apartment. Only I don't put anything in my son's room, he has enough of his own.
That's Little dragon the same in our company.
I looked at the stove in the store and decided that I would do this - I took it off the shelf, put the bucket, put the stove back on the shelf and let it work, and then get the finished bread in the same way. It's not that hard, I can handle it.
In the store, I did not buy hp. There is only one store, RBT, but the store costs 2,510 rubles almost 10 thousand, and if they have the same via the Internet, then 7229 rubles. I ordered it through the Internet, why overpay. I ordered delivery for 4.02, so I’ll be waiting for everything.
Didn't I find something on the model 2510, or did I look badly?

does she make a lot of noise when kneading, does it interfere with sleep?

That's how it never bothers me. If only I could crawl to the pillow ... Sometimes it happens that I wake up from a measured rumble in a bucket, but somehow (for me !!!) it always works soothingly. And besides, I don't always bet on the morning, that is, on a deferral. I bake more often in the afternoon / evening / weekend!
Everything is individual. And I love fairy tales, aha!

Fairy tales are good !!!

Girls, here I am again in doubts. Maybe I ordered 2510 in vain, maybe I should have ordered a model with a dispenser? Now, if you add bran or flaxseed, is it better with a dispenser?
God, these agonies of choice are so difficult. Before it's too late, I can change the order tomorrow.

Maybe I ordered 2510 in vain, maybe I should have ordered a model with a dispenser? Now, if you add bran or flaxseed, is it better with a dispenser?

already wrote here (about 2502?) that the model above 2501 has a noble yeast dispenser rumble.
and these fruits can always be added by handles (at the beginning? or at the end).

[Moofiepie]

Here I cannot read all the pages, with all my desire. I will gradually study.
Moofiepie, thank you very much. Oh, I don't need to rumble. So is the 2510 okay without a dispenser? Calm me down or finish me off, because I already

normal model - you will lay fruits manually or at the very beginning with all products (?). go to sleep in peace.

[Moofiepie]

normal model

Moofiepie, let me kiss you ()
It became easier on my soul.

In my opinion, two dispensers are not a luxury at all. A VERY nice thing! No need to think about when to add something. You can safely leave home, and not listen (or you may simply not hear) that HP is asking for supplements! ONLY 2502 or (even better) 2512! I have 2502. I am VERY HAPPY to own it - at the time of purchase 2512 was not yet available, unfortunately. Money is just money. And HP is a great joy, health and a huge field of creativity that is useful for the family, and even frees up a lot of free time. TOY for big girls!

[Irina.]

Irina., I have 2501. I used the dispenser 2 times in six months. Twice you yourself will have time to add raisins to the dough ...

Some people like very tasty unusual pastries. This does not mean that the Cook herself needs to eat in unlimited quantities (the topic of Tanyusha-Giraffe will help). Supplements are never superfluous, but TIME is what needs austerity. Sitting, guarding such a smart device as HP is optional. In our time, I somehow do not want to work as an HP watchman. Sorry, this is just my opinion.

[June]

June, I also like to add something to bread. Dried onions, dried bell peppers, olives, herbs. Of course, the dispenser is convenient, but with it it is more expensive and there is not always a choice. The instructions describe the time of each stage of each mode. You need to calculate the time and put a timer or reminder on your phone.

normal model - put fruits by hand

... at night or in the morning ... in a dream ... (joke) It is very convenient with dispensers, and when they are not there, it so happens that they are not enough.

Irina, I, like Katya from Khanty-Mansiysk, used the dispenser two and a half times.
There is a topic about new stoves, but here somehow everyone is grazing, both those who have the previous models and the next ones .. We got used to it, and the company is warm ...

[Moofiepie]

Here I cannot read all the pages, with all my desire. I will gradually study.
Moofiepie, thank you very much. Oh, I don't need to rumble. So is the 2510 okay without a dispenser? Calm me down or finish me off, because I already

I have this model. Great without a dispenser! I put it on at night and everything is fine!
And most importantly, nothing clicks at night))

[marinastom]

already wrote here (about 2502?) that the model above 2501 has a noble yeast dispenser rumble.
and these fruits can always be added by handles (at the beginning? or at the end).

About dispensers, I can only say that it is definitely needed for yeast only if you do not use live ones. Alas, when he is alive, he is useless. I broke through the oven both dry and alive ... with live (sort of) more interesting taste., But a BIG risk of stumbling upon a poor-quality (frozen, stitched, defective) pack or batch (especially in the outback of Russia). This is where the "dancing with a tambourine" begins! everything seems to be correct, but something is not the right bread .... With dry, this is much less common.
He chits loudly! But this is done so that the yeast is GUARANTEED to shake off into the dough (the yeast is dry, fine and due to static electricity can easily stick to the dispenser).
But the additive dispenser turned out to be practically useless for me!
Historically, I almost never bake bread with additives ... (when I bought I thought I would ... but no ...)
Just at the time of purchase, 2502 cost 8K rubles in Yulmart ... well, I bought it ... with all the bells and whistles, as they say!
so what about the dispenser with marinastom, I agree completely!
here who studied what!

already wrote here (about 2502?) that the model above 2501 has a noble yeast dispenser rumble.
and these fruits can always be added by handles (at the beginning? or at the end).

2501 has no dispensary for yeast, only dispensary for supplements, I like it.

I also only have a dispenser for additives, for 3 years of use I used the dispenser 5 times.
It is quite possible to add by hand.

but if you do not use the fruit dispenser and add fruit right at the beginning of the ingredients, will the dough / baking change?

but if you do not use the fruit dispenser and add fruit right at the beginning of the ingredients, will the dough / baking change?

The fact is that then all the fruits will turn into a "pasty porridge". because the spatula, when kneading, will simply "level" them with flour. Therefore, many (those who have the opportunity to be in the kitchen at the time of kneading the dough) simply throw "additives" into the dough at the end of the kneading, and then these additives really interfere with the dough, and do not mix with it!

Not only because of this. Nuts and other solid additives can scratch the bucket if added early in the batch.

Nuts and other solid additives can scratch the bucket if added early in the batch.

I'm covered in chocolate
I, of course, have already scratched the shoulder blade, and I read praise odes to this coating, but that would be completely

Don't be so fussy. I don’t understand at all how you can scratch a shoulder blade if you don’t scratch it with a knife. The coating is really good, for example, I even made jam. A flight flies out of the bucket. I think the manufacturer is just predicting all situations. So that the people do not abuse.

I don’t understand at all how you can scratch a shoulder blade if you don’t scratch it with a knife.

to the point, I did bread and something went wrong - it became so "strong", I had to "cut out" the spatula, slight scratches appeared.
Well, this is from me, and those who buy these scapula - from those in general they are shabby, I think it is unlikely that everyone is as crooked as me.
and if you look at the thickness of the non-stick coating, then the association with gold plating on the domes of temples arises, in the same pans it is thicker.

If associations with domes, I will give an example of St. Petersburg Isaac. It was gilded only once. And it still shines. So it's not just the thickness.

[Irina.]

Irina., my 255th model is generally tall (it has a motor on the bottom) and there is no way to open the lid under the shelves. But I like my HP precisely in its shape - it takes up little space (in terms of area) on the table. HP lives constantly near the wall, and when I bake, I simply push it to the edge of the table and unfold it sideways - the lid opens normally, it is convenient for me to follow the batch. If I had stood at the wall, then it would have been problematic to look into it (high and far, not climbing on a stool?). So do not be discouraged - and you will adapt!

I have a 2502, I use both dispensers, I am very pleased that I chose this stove. I fell asleep and went about my business. Only when I bake a sourdough bread, then they are not needed. And you can adapt to any, the main thing is to buy and find a place in the kitchen. I don’t use a spatula for rye, it seems to me that after it there is a lot of impurities.

my 255th model is generally tall (it has a motor on the bottom) and there is no way to open the lid under the shelves

The 2502 also has a motor underneath, and also open like an eiffel tower!