entin
Quote: * Annie *
I ought to go to stock up, otherwise it ends already ..
Anyuta, this flour only appeared again In the summer there was no. Disassemble quickly, so I do not recommend postponing packing.
marinastom
Brothers, what kind of flour are we talking about? Is this the one that calls names "every day", or what?
* Anyuta *
Quote: marinastom

Brothers, what kind of flour are we talking about? Is it the one that calls names "every day", or what?

yeah, Marish, it's about her ...
marinastom
Here, Martha! In our Attack, I bypassed its eighth path. I took a bag just for fish, as Valentine wrote. Almost worn out on all sorts of garbage. Now I know!
entin
Quote: marinastom
Brothers, what kind of flour are we talking about?

Yes, Marina. White package, green small print says "Every day". So far there are even kilogram packages.
Waist70
Quote: Eugene L.

yes, yes, I read. Now I should keep so much in my head
I always fill the flour with a slide and put it on the timer for the night. Water turns out in a circle. Naturally at night I do not get up to mix. Everything is mixed with a run, rye bread mode.
Moochy
Hello everyone! I read the forum to the ripples in my eyes and finally decided to "show off" my bread. Sonechka 2500 is my first HP, I already have almost 6th day)). Every day I try to bake something new, it's interesting to try. Started, naturally, with the simplest wheat bread. Everything worked out until yesterday (. I decided to bake wheat with the addition of 100 grams of oat bran ... Well, what can I say, delicious, but the "roof" is all mounds. Today I decided to try again, but with the observation of a bun. Mom dear !! ! I sat half-kneading with a mug of water in one hand and a pack of flour in the other!)) At first, the dough stuck to the walls, stubbornly not rolling even in the semblance of a bun, after adding a drop of flour it all went in a mean way with irregularities, so similar to yesterday's bumpy roof ( (In general, with some torment, I still managed to achieve something similar to a kolobok.
And here's the "result":
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

Moofiepie
Quote: Moochy
Well what can I say, delicious, but the "roof" is all mounds.
and then you got down to bullshit, bread either rises or not - it was easier for you to change the molecular composition of flour / water / yeast.
use the recipe from the manual (by the way, the water composition for your "Bread with Bran" is incorrectly indicated - you need to change it to 330ml proof _https: //Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=132450.0)
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the mixture from stopudof "Garlic Bread" was lying around and there you need to set the weight to 750g - is this the "average" size for our 2501?
Wit
I have long ceased to bother with the view of the roof. It would be delicious. Has risen? Wonderful! And bumps or breakdowns from the bottom - in my opinion, this is garbage. You need to worry if the roof is flat or concave inward. I remember my grandmother who baked bread in a Russian oven. baked several loaves at a time. And in some one the roof was blown up. He asked me to cut out this particular place, rubbed it with garlic and ate it. I still remember the taste.
And "the molecular composition of flour / water / yeast" is, of course, cool!
entin
Quote: Moofiepie
change molecular structure

... cool!
Sorry, I couldn't resist ...
svetlanna
Please tell me how you can clean the "coals" at the very bottom (where is the black circle of the engine, or what is it called?). Can I pick it up with a wooden splinter? A little attacked there, but I'm afraid to climb.
Wit
Olya, can you take a picture of the place where you want to "dig it!" What are the "coals"? Burnt lumps? There should be nothing on the little black circle.
Moofiepie
Quote: svetlanna
Please tell me how you can clean the "coals" at the very bottom (where is the black circle of the engine, or what is it called?).Can I pick it up with a wooden splinter? A little attacked there, but I'm afraid to climb.
There is nothing to be afraid of.
Pour in some water to soak off (or it is better to turn it on so that the thermal process occurs), then pour it out. It’s not scary to bite there - tefal only in a bucket.
Wit
"Coals" will not soak very much. We must try to remove them without the "thermal process"
Moofiepie
nothing can get there, even theoretically, if you don't shove it on purpose.
wipe and dry with a wet cloth.
the girl talks about the "tricked mechanism" of turning the scapula.
Wit
I understood. Just checking with her. If there is a "coal", then a rag will not help. But you can try with a marigold.
Moofiepie
what if it seeps through the shaft? then it's time to change the "bucket"
svetlanna
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Is it visible around the black circle? This is when kneading a little flour is sprayed, and my bucket, mmm, is in excellent condition.
Wit
It's okay, Olya. With a damp cloth first, then with a marigold or a wooden stick. Black ebonite circle - you can scratch slightly.
When you fill up the flour, do you take out the bucket? Or is it when mixing (which is unlikely)?
svetlanna
Quote: Wit
When you fill up the flour, do you take out the bucket?
Naturally! When kneading, sometimes the flour gets dusty, but this has accumulated for more than 2 years. I thought it would suddenly start to interfere.
Thank you so much!
Moofiepie
Quote: svetlanna
I thought it would suddenly start to interfere.
Thank you so much!
there are no problems - if because of this there is no grinding (suddenly the ear hurts), then it will not affect anything else.
sazalexter
svetlanna, From time to time I turn the HP over and shake out the crumbs, it is impossible to pour water on the drive unit! Can be cleaned with a stick such as a toothpick.
Wit
And I'm afraid to turn over. I choose the crumbs with a damp sponge. Nagarinka - with a toothpick. And to pour water, like, no one advised.
svetlanna
Turn over ?! Is it true? I am also afraid to turn over.
lega
Guys, why be wise? A vacuum cleaner will perfectly remove this burnt flour and you do not need to shake and turn it over. Occasionally I do this - take out the bucket, collect all the crumbs with dust without a nozzle and wipe with a slightly damp cloth, if you wish.
sazalexter
Wit, This is me just in case
svetlanna There is no need to be afraid, the main thing is to pull out the bucket and not touch the HP until it cools down.
Wit
Galya, the "coals" cannot be removed with a vacuum cleaner. Only with a nail or a wooden toothpick stick. And with a damp sponge, all the crumbs are removed!
lega
Quote: Wit
the "coals" cannot be removed with a vacuum cleaner.
If it is just flour that is charred, then it is removed in a moment, and the remains that were not caught by a vacuum cleaner, indeed, with a damp cloth or sponge.
sweetheart
but please tell me about the dispenser - I am upset by the clicks, which, as I understand it, are very loud. Can I take it off if I put the HB on at night? in the sense of "not to use" - to remove, remove, remove and not hear clicks. I know that the dispenser works or does not work in some programs.

The oven will be wheat, most likely rye. The 2502 has two, both loudly clicking?
yudinel
sweetheart, they just do not need to be used in this case, put the yeast directly into the bucket
vedmacck
yudinel, so the dispenser still clicks. You put in the yeast or leave it empty.
entin
Quote: sweetheart
if i put hb at night?

I don’t understand the talk about dispenser clicks interfering with sleep.
If I put x \ n in the room where I sleep, then kneading will keep me awake. And if she is in the kitchen, then whether she kneads, clicks, squeaks, or sings - I don't care. I can not hear. Although I sleep very lightly.
Probably the question is more about the location, and not about the sound accompaniment of the process.
Moofiepie
Quote: sweetheart
but please tell me about the dispenser - I am upset by the clicks, which, as I understand it, are very loud. Can I take it off if I put the HB on at night? in the sense of "not to use" - to remove, remove, remove and not hear clicks. I know that the dispenser works or does not work in some programs.

The oven will be wheat, most likely rye. The 2502 has two, both loudly clicking? More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=197192.0
if you take it out, and this trough "separates", then further you will be grieved by the shape of the bread, which will climb into this slot
PS Wheat you have goes under the Main, and Rye (and he is alone) - (see page 7 in the instructions) and the dispenser does not click anywhere there, because nothing like raisins is put into these recipes (the pitch itself)
marinastom
Firstly, I strongly doubt that bread will "climb" into the crack.
Secondly, if it's XL, there is this theme... Only, of course, you need to attach the handles.
And thirdly, in the 2502, as I understand it, the yeast dispenser is separate from the "additives" and works on all programs with yeast.
yudinel
I don’t know how nothing clicks with you I use the main programs, rye and French bread, I put yeast in a bucket and everything is always fine In the morning, only the smell of freshly baked bread wakes up
sweetheart
to entinWell, the apartments are small, there will be a stove in the kitchen, but in the room, no matter how you close the three doors, you can still hear the noise. The last defective bread maker was relatively quiet, like a Bosch dishwasher. But the squeak, which nafig did not turn off, did not make it possible to put bread on the timer with a timer. Therefore, I do not want to run into the same rake. And since a couple of people wrote about clicks, I wanted to know what could be done.

Therefore, either the choice is without a dispensary, or with one, but not to use .. or with two, but to score
marinastom
sweetheart, I swear, if I were buying a stove now, I would never take it with a dispenser! I have used it two and a half times in three years. Just wash it? And the energy loss is still greater with him than without him. Although, these are trifles.
Shl. I still love my Panasik dearly!
vedmacck
marinastom, if about the yeast dispenser - I agree, the thing is useless (although at first yuzanya did not think so), but about the dispenser for additives - you can argue. After all, at least two and a half times, but used?
irman
I also agree with Tatiana, let it be, he does not interfere.
Taia
Quote: yudinel
I don’t know how nothing clicks with you

Snaps, snaps. You probably have a stable psyche and you do not react.

Quote: marinastom
I swear, if I were buying a stove now, I would never take it with a dispenser!

I had my first bread maker with a dispenser, I hated it. When the stove broke down, I happily returned it under warranty, took another one, but without a dispenser.
sweetheart

About the dispenser - I understood thanks. Wash it every time - it will be for me
Another question was formed, what kind of temperature equalization? This is on all, all programs, i.e. you cannot disable it? and with a simple kneading dough is that? on 2500 also have it?
marinastom
I do not know, it seems to me that this is Panasonic's "know-how". Although, it is possible that I am mistaken.
You cannot disable Alignment. I adapted like this: I turn on the program, press Start and then start filling the bucket.
* Anyuta *
Quote: marinastom
I turn on the program, press Start and then start filling the bucket.
I do about the same .... maybe, of course, it is impossible, but while the temperature equalization begins, I calmly "fill" the bucket with the necessary ingredients. As a rule, 10-15 minutes pass for sure, well, if no one distracts ...
vedmacck
Same. Only with flour I fill the taken out bucket. And I put the rest, putting the bucket and turning on the program.
Taia
I need to remember this method just in case, I will apply it when I am in a hurry.
marinastom
Quote: vedmacck
Only with flour I fill the taken out bucket.
I apologize to anyone who might have thought otherwise while reading my post. I didn't have such a thought.
entin
Quote: marinastom
I apologize

.. oh well, inject new nanotechnology!
sweetheart
I kind of read the archives with themes, but it turns out very slowly - thank you for your prompt answers

I wanted to ask about the cupcake regime (not cake - as I understand it, it turns out great). Somewhere on page 160..158 there was a question about a cupcake and a little bit here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=126137.0, ... that you need to lay the paper, stir with a mixer, in short, it's kind of confused ... Our family is cupcake fans, is it really that all 2500, 2501 and 2502 have such hemorrhoids? Even rye bread is baked without a special program, why is it so difficult about cake?

in the last stove I had an instruction from the forum - (thank you very much) that butter + eggs are mixed in the stove, after 10 minutes flour is poured there, after 5 minutes the second part of flour + raisins + soda, pull out the scapula with a hook. It was mixed and baked at 1.10 on the Keks program. Then, when the cake has cooled, shake out. Share, can anyone bake a cupcake in Panasonic without dancing with a tambourine?
lega
A normal muffin dough in HP without a tambourine cannot work out precisely because of the kneading principle. The dough is too liquid for HP, because in HP the ingredients are collected in a lump and kneading occurs due to the beating of this lump along the sides of the bucket, absorbing flour along the way. If the dough is liquid, then the mixer will simply spin in the center, and unmixed flour will remain in the corners below. And it will look like Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)
sweetheart
hmm, oh, how tired I was with the last bread maker to be repaired, but I must pay tribute to her - the cake was completely kneaded and baked in HB - and it turned out delicious!

and I downloaded the instructions and looked, indeed, three ovens have requirements - paper and a mixer, it does not mix itself.

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