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Nugira
I have a washing machine, already an old woman ZANUSSI since 2000 (she plows without a single breakdown). so in her instructions it is written, depending on the hardness of the water in the region, 1-4 times a year to clean with citric acid - pour 180 ml into the powder compartment and the main cycle at 90 degrees. I've been doing this for 14 years)
sazalexter
Regarding kalgon (not to be confused with kalgonite-finish), they wrote repeatedly, if you use a normal detergent and not Doshu zakopeek, nothing needs to be added. Postirayka is either 12 or 14 years old. I have never used cleaners, the inside is pristine, no traces of scale, only slightly stained from rusty water.
Scarecrow
Quote: Loksa

Scarecrow, Natasha, let's take a closer look at how much citric acid they recommend pouring. Shaw all 250 grams? drive one cycle?
Once again, I read your message, it turns out 250 grams of lemon on a 6kg loading machine, one full cycle at high temperature? So?

Yes exactly. On the can it is written: put ALL the contents of the package into the drum of the washing machine. The package contains 250g (this is written in large on it).

She (lemon from this can) is also used for cleaning PMM. The method of application for CM and the method of application for PMM are separately indicated. This is a descaling agent. And the tool for PMM, about which I wrote above, is different, I buy it separately, it is in flat bottles.

For PMM: start the Intensive 75 degrees program (without dishes). After pre-rinsing (about 20 minutes), open the machine door and put ALL the contents of the packaging into the machine. Close the door. letting the machine run through the program. ALL contents of the package are 250 grams of citric acid.
Scarecrow
sazalexter,

I have expensive powders all my life. Including Japanese, etc. I do not use any calgonite, calgon. I constantly use soda ash. I don’t know about the scale (I don’t see the heating element, they never took it apart), but the fact that the water was hellishly dirty is a fact.
Scarecrow
Quote: mowgli

But I have such a question, I have a self-cleaning program, if you pour the lemon and drive it out?

And what is the description of this program given in your instructions? Write - we'll think about it!)))
Taia
And I saw my washing machines from the inside, there is scale on the heating elements, a thick layer. There were 2 automatic washing machines. In the first car, in a row, I constantly poured Calgon, no effect. It was me, because of my youth, out of naivety, that I succumbed to advertising. I constantly use Ariel powder, after all, it is not 7 kopecks, it does not belong to the segment of the cheapest ...
sazalexter
TaiaYou most likely have very hard water, the additives that Ariel has and that reduce deposits cannot cope. In this case, there are two ways, water softening with ion-exchange filters, but this is expensive, the second one should be used periodically, at least once a month, with descaling agents.
vatruska
Lemon is better ... My brother installed such filters - twice already they barely had time to eliminate the leak - the filters were leaking.
Sonadora
Our water is very hard, once every six months I drive the machine with this product (composition: citric acid):
Washing machine: which one to buy
I already have an old woman, one might say, 14 years old. TTT flight is normal, never repaired.
Inusya
my indezite this year is already an adult (16!), if I had the will, I would have bought exactly the same, but now it is unlikely to be equal to it (mechanics, with drying, under two waters, depth only 42 cm, by 5 kg). Now, for the second year already, I have been monitoring, I will not find anything like it, I ordered a similar one to Germany, so far nothing. God forbid, it will be covered, there will be sadness ((((. I love her, bastard, my husband says, you need to buy a new one without waiting for the "death" of the old woman, and I'm in deep thought ...Galya baluvana))))
sazalexter
Inusya, No need to hurry, old friend .... If it breaks, it's better to repair. Technique is now a lottery. Indesite is generally a dirty word among technicians, very unreliable.
Wit
Quote: sazalexter
Inusya, there is no need to hurry,

I agree with Sasha! At the specialized forum on washers, they also say that repairing old equipment is more profitable than buying current new ones. Alas, Indesit is not the same. Now the name "indezhut" is stuck to it. This is Nina's bourgeois policy. Above, I have already given a link in what is the essence of such a policy.
Taia
The Russian "Vyatka" has worked for us for 20 years. We repaired small things ourselves, changed the rubber pads, the body corroded, they took it off - our friends at the car service painted it. Probably still would have worked, something broke there, maybe it was not a serious breakdown, but they did not reanimate it, bought another car.
By the way, the problem with spare parts was solved simply, bought a similar used. at. car for $ 15 for parts. They took off everything we needed from her, threw out the rest.
Sandy
Quote: sazalexter
Technique is now a lottery. Indesite is generally a dirty word among technicians, very unreliable.
And what is not abusive .. well, in terms of quality from the budget ... about 400 dollars?
sazalexter
Sandy, All the same AEG-Electrolux-Zanussi, Bosch-Siemens.
Wit
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Sandy
We all have Electrolux - Zanussi Ukrainian assembly ... something confuses me Pts ..... or nothing?
Kandy assembly Russia.
And AEG, Bosch Siemens dear infection

I'm looking for 7 kg
Sandy
Quote: Wit
Sandy, go to the profile forum
Thank you ! went to watch
Inusya
Yeah ... My mechanic also said, if she dies, then the new ones are already "non-indesit" at all))). But I'm still getting ready. So as not to run around with a stunned look and take whatever. Therefore, I read ...
Sandy
My LG intellowasher WD-80260NP is also still alive and healthy, but the age is quite "old" may probably already die at last. And the quality of washing is already better now. But in 12 years there has not been a single breakdown.
Sandy
Quote: Elena Tim
Quote: vatruska on 11 July 2014, 11:07 am
and more - it would be nice there was a soaking function (not pre-wash, but soaking) - a thing!
This is exactly a thing! In my old Electrolysis there is this program, but in the new ones, for some reason, no. I wonder why they removed it, because the really necessary program!

Girls why soaking? What kind of things are you soaking? For the first time I read about this function ... or rather, at first I came across it in the description of cars, and then I read here that the required function
I always, if there is strong pollution, did I just use it beforehand and everything was perfectly washed, or is soaking something different?
Inusya
I, too, would have thought that this is a pre-session. Maybe this is essentially the same thing, or is it fundamentally different?
By the way, over the course of 16 years, I have used the pre-session only 10 times, or even less ...
Sonadora
Quote: Inusya
I, too, would have thought that this is a pre-session. Maybe this is essentially the same thing, or is it fundamentally different?
I won't tell you for all Odessa for all cars, but in mine (AEG) is different. Soaking is 30 minutes longer than the pre-wash (an hour is obtained) and after that there is no rinse, only draining the water, spinning a little, and then moving on to the next selected program. I use soaking for bed linen, towels and white shirts.
vatruska
Oh, how everything is started ... Girls, well, remember soaking in troughs! ... This program is characterized by a large amount of water, the temperature is maintained at about 30 degrees. and slowly, slowly so waddled. That is, in fact, all the dirt leaves, there is a primary removal of stains and the laundry does not fray. This is how it differs from the pre-wash and more efficiently.
Sandy
Quote: vatruska
This program is characterized by a large amount of water, the temperature is maintained at about 30 degrees. and slowly, slowly so waddles

This function does not always work this way ... judging by the description from different manufacturers in different ways
For example, in Samsung:
"Soaking": Use this advanced function to effectively
removing stains from laundry by soaking it.
• The soaking process is carried out for 13 minutes in the wash cycle.
• The Soak function is performed in 6 cycles for 30 minutes, where each
the cycle is soaking when the drum 1 minute rotates intensively and for
4 minutes stands still.

• The Soak function is only valid for the following wash programs:
Cotton, Synthetics, Jeans, Daily, Kids' clothes, Sportswear

Scarecrow
Soaking and pre-cooking are two different things. I have both separately!

Prevarilovka - this is for heavily soiled things, so that the laundry is not moored in the "dirt" - first prevarilovka, the dirt itself is washed off, then the main wash goes. Used for extremely dusty / dirty / in sand.

Soaking is to ferment the laundry and wait until old and strongly dried, especially organic ones (fat, blood, milk, coffee, sweat, etc.) are soaked. My soaking time is manually selected from 30 minutes to 6 hours. Soaking everything. Because children and dirty are just splashed. But I use the preliminaries for boys' jeans and walking pants (there is a lot of dirt, dust and sand in there))), for curtains (there is always a lot of dust on them), for street tablecloths and tires (for the same reason).
Sandy
Yeah that they are different - preliminary and soaking, we already understood ...
For myself, I concluded that soaking me nadot
I found such a Samsung machine where there is both preliminary and soaking ... ... probably I will stop on it, and it also has some kind of Eco Bubble, which is probably also necessary

Eco Bubble ™
Technology for effective washing in cold water. When the detergent is dissolved in water, multiple bubbles are formed, due to which it quickly penetrates the fibers of the fabric and the washing quality in cold water is the same as in hot water.

Has anyone used this function?
Wit
Quote: Sandy
Has anyone used this function?
I've read reviews from the owners of this ... bullshit. Well, as it was written in the reviews, it's not my fault. There were even more swear words about some silver. Vobchim, pralna do what you ask.
And in my typewriter in the programs on the "Soak" panel there is no, but the instructions contain an algorithm for setting the takou function. And I still soak it according to the Chuchelka method. And I'm not worried.
lega
Quote: Scarecrow
My soaking time is manually selected from 30 minutes to 6 hours.
And in mine, the display shows 25 minutes, but the machine itself does not drain the water. Until you come up and press the button, it will periodically flop for at least a day.
Wit
Exactly!
Sandy
Quote: Wit
I've read reviews from the owners of this ... bullshit.

Yeah? And this is what I found, so beautifully truncated
Wand
As for the bubbles and cold wash, my parents had such a unit, at one time terribly advanced. They thought they were washing normally until the car was covered and they bought AEG for some kind of promotion. Wow, they were very surprised that what they used to take for a good result compared to the new machine is bullshit. Especially when the towels were boiled at 95 degrees. Now we are glad that we changed the car. I can't say for the bubbles in Samsung, but just a cold wash with bubbles is not enough.
Annutka
Quote: Sandy


Has anyone used this function?
I've been using it for six months, and I'm not overjoyed yet. The wash quality is excellent. In the summer, guests came who had a new AEG and did not notice the difference in washing, and according to some programs they also liked my machine better.
Sandy
Annutka, what is your model?
Wit
Quote: Sandy
Yeah? And this is what I found, so beautifully truncated
Yeah? And I found this: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/s-image/1663/content/eco-bubble-ili-volshebnye-puzyrki-vsego-lish-reklamnyi-khod-v-ostalnom-super
or a sample on a vskidku: "... On cycles where the Eco Bubble technology is provided, it does not wash the linen, but simply soaks in my opinion.I have a small child and if I described the pants and I set them to be washed with magic bubbles, she returns them back with the same smell, not to mention the stains. In addition, things lose their original appearance. In short, some grief. To wash you have to use the daily wash cycle, then at least somehow still looks like a wash. But it is a pity to wash good things on this cycle, they lose their original appearance. Bottom line: I soak delicate things in a basin, then lightly wash them with my hands and put them in the machine to rinse and squeeze. Some torment. I dream that she would break. Even the money spent is no longer a pity. Or maybe I will sell it by ad. I will not buy such equipment anymore. Perhaps I'll buy LG again without bells and whistles, the most common and not expensive ... "
Review below from Ksenia, better skip it, you need to take care of your nerves
And here they are glad that they have read the reviews and recommend it to others. I join. 🔗

And the video ... I beg you! Pay the testers 1000 rubles more and they will show "so shitty truncated."


Annutka
Sandy, I have a WF1702XQR soaking, you can set up to 5 rinses, you can set the washing program yourself from 15 minutes. I am very happy with the machine. Before that there was Ardo and LG, so there is something to compare with. Vit, a completely incomprehensible review about children's pants, on the contrary, I was struck by the smell of linen after the first washings, not with powder, but with freshness. And, about the fact that things lose their original appearance, is this due to what? Funny, it doesn't wash the urine, but spoils the fabric? That's really a paid review.
Scarecrow
And I'm doing it, now you will get lost ... And this is when there is a Rolls-Royce in the world of washing - Miele with a honeycomb drum))).

I put contaminated cotton clothes (namely cotton, including colored ones) in a bucket, densely fill it with primitive Bose powder and pour boiling water (yes, right from a saucepan boiled on the stove). The water should be absorbed and flush with the laundry. I poke the linen with a wooden stick (actually, this is a plunger handle, gee-gee) and leave it alone until it cools completely. In the process, I can poke a few more times. Usually at night. I use this shamanism for especially blamed and not washed (not even the first time) things. Children are doing like a god to a turtle. So, it eats away everything: snow-white T-shirts, "killed" by the street and dinners, tablecloths, panties, etc. And! What's the fun part! Exactly with the same powder on the "Cotton" program of 95 degrees, things are not washed as well as at rest in a greasy and hot solution of this powder. I do not know why. I just want to show you the pictures BEFORE and AFTER. You will be surprised.))) Then I put the bucket to the load of the machine, drag things into it, turn on the express wash program (30 minutes), pour the powder solution left over from the clothes into the cuvette and that's it. She will chat them a little (no more, everything has already eaten away, she will rinse and voila!
Wit
Review from Xenia is even worse. Apparently, it's not about the bubbles, but some kind of incomprehensible powder. Bubbles are clearly nothing here.
Wit
Scarecrow, Thank you! I didn't know about boiling water! Always poured warm. Now we will be boiling water, since the poke is in the form of wooden tongs. It's a straight Rolls Royce compared to yours. And milka is a cool! Are there bubbles in it too?
Your post is bookmarked and in the washing instructions. Thanks again!
Scarecrow
Wit,

I have no idea about bubbles, to be honest. Milek has a patented, cellular drum. I did not get a grasp of what exactly he is so famous for and whether he makes bubbles))).

You are only neater colored cotton. Bed linen and towels can easily withstand (they are washed in machines with the same 95), but the rest (such as colored T-shirts) depends on the quality. I, by a sinful deed, even flooded children's French ones with prints. I already did not care: either pan or disappeared. Anyway, wear in public in the form in which they were already - only if you portray the homeless))).

This powder. It is he, I strongly advise:

Sandy
Quote: Wit
Yeah? Here's what I found:

It is very good that you found it, and I found a lot of positive and a lot of rave reviews.

The question was to the real owners of a car with this function, and not "I heard" and "I was told" and there is no need to sarcastically
Wit
Thank you, Nata! I just wanted to clarify about color!
Sandy
Quote: Annutka

Sandy, I have a WF1702XQR soaking, you can set up to 5 rinses, you can set the washing program yourself from 15 minutes. I am very happy with the machine. Before that there was Ardo and LG, so there is something to compare with. Vit, a completely incomprehensible review about children's pants, on the contrary, I was struck by the smell of linen after the first washings, not with powder, but with freshness. And, about the fact that things lose their original appearance, is this due to what? Funny, it doesn't wash the urine, but spoils the fabric? That's really a paid review.

Thank you
I looked .... yes, the machine is cool, but it doesn't fit me in size, they have models with a load of 6 kg. and the same functions as in your but 45 cm

I also had Ardo from the very first that we had but with vertical loading, and now Ski
Wit
Sandy, yes I am not sarcastic. And he brought reviews from the owners. And do not juggle! I never wrote "I heard" and "I was told". I read it. And buy what you want. Actually, I'm not writing for you, but for those who also want to deal with these bubbles.
Sandy
Quote: Wit

Yeah? Here's what I found:

I didn’t use it.
Don't write for me? Why then is my quote and your caustic post under it highlighted.
If they write for everyone, then they do not highlight the message of an individual user.

It's clear that I'll buy what I want, and you have absolutely nothing to do with it
Here are also reviews from real owners, even with photos:

🔗
🔗

I, too, if I am not writing for you, but for those who also want to deal with these bubbles.

Scarecrow
Here, I could not resist, I went to take a picture of a child's T-shirt (took it off the dryer). Sorry no photo BEFORE. This T-shirt went through a cycle of about 15 washes (washed not for the first time) after ... drum roll sounds!))) A two-year-old child. I think there is no need to explain: how he eats, plays, wipes his hands on. Specifically, this time I fermented it in powder with boiling water as described above. After washing, I took it out of the machine (washed at 60 degrees, there was a lot of color, I was afraid that something would stain) in unwashed stains. So she went to the fermentation bucket along with a few more son's T-shirts and light-colored socks (the eternal story is to wash socks). This is how she looks after the procedure. Ideally. Not a single speck, the color was originally. By the way, with the help of this sourdough with powder, I even ate off a few things that had previously been stained from others during washing.

Washing machine: which one to buy

and I love the Express Short Program incredibly. Rugs, rugs, dress or blouse to rinse from sweat, to quickly rinse linen already "weaned" by fermentation - super. Previously, I did not have such a fast program (in Ariston). But even Ariston's years were decent, in fairness it should be noted.
Annutka
Sandy, my ARDO was also one of the first, and LG, although it had a large load, but from narrow ones, jumped all over the bathtub, was tortured with it. When choosing a new one, I also read reviews, I was more inclined to Bosch or AEG, but at the last moment something turned me on to Samsung and so far it only makes me happy.
Sandy
Annutka, I'm already so confused .... I want one thing then another

My Ski is still working fine, as it is not urgent for me, but I already choose

I liked Ardo very much, but the drum dripped over time. And the Ski is also narrow by 5 kg, it jumps mainly when something is one and heavy I wash, although the bed for the balancer is a small thing, and noisy when it collects water, it drains, and when it twists the plane like that on takeoff

Sandy
Scarecrow, I envy you with white envy ... and I'm so too lazy to boil water on the stove ... I force myself to fill kitchen towels with a mixture from Giraffe only once a month
For a bucket of BOILING water - 2 tablespoons of sunflower oil, 2 tablespoons of dry bleach (the simplest "Swan", "Fancy", "Boss", which were previously used to boil clothes) and an incomplete glass of washing powder. In this hot solution we put our DRY dirty towels and leave to cool completely.
but in reality everything goes well then only in the car for "rinsing + spinning" (20 minutes) and a snow-white truncated
Annutka
Quote: Sandy

Annutka, I'm already so confused .... I want one thing then another
Good luck to you, there will be questions, ask.

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