Washing machine: which one to buy

People, ay!

You have not customized your desires. Vertical, horizontal. Capacity. For example, I have already decided for myself Electrolux, I wrote about it above.

front loading, 6-7 kilograms .. I'm just interested in what I hear about LV, Samsung ... there you can choose, but we don't have the Electrolux brand .. I traveled around all the major stores in our city

front loading, 6-7 kilograms .. I'm just interested in what I hear about LV, Samsung ... there you can choose, but we don't have the Electrolux brand .. I have traveled to all major stores in our city

Well, when my Bosch was repaired to me by a master, he did not speak flatteringly about LV and Samsung. Although he said that they are easily repaired. But my friend yesterday launched Samsung after repairs and said that he was happy with the purchase so far. But he really had something to compare with. He had an old semi-automatic before.
Why didn’t you think to buy, for example, through online stores?
Just read on other sites. reviews of all typewriters. Then you will understand what you need.

Hello everyone! Of course, I no longer need CM, but who is in search, I will write. My mother's LG 3.5 kg serves 10 years, my husband's mother also has one, she is 8 years old, my dad's Lg 5 kg already has a display, she is about 5 years old, my LG friends with direct drive are 4 years old + / - and everyone is happy. We moved into the house and there was a question about buying a CM, the price did not matter. Our family: husband, me (pregnant) and child 1.7 (where children have a lot of linen). For a long time tormented by the choice and knowing that all the equipment is no longer made in Germany, Italy, etc., the choice fell on what you like (externally, programs + water saving (you can't pour as much as you want into the cesspool), on LG True Steam (F12A8HDS) 7 kg (1-7 kg) CM with a steam cycle (now they are the same size as 3.5 kg) I am very pleased with the choice and the first one went to wash a huge duvet, super! Do not scold LG! All manufacturers have breakdowns, defective parts. Successful choice and good, long service to our SM assistants of all brands! And I'll go see the dishwasher)))

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Hello everyone! Of course, I no longer need CM, but who is in search, I will write. My mother's LG 3.5 kg serves 10 years, my husband's mother also has one, she is 8 years old, my dad's Lg 5 kg already has a display, she is about 5 years old, my LG friends with direct drive are 4 years old + / - and everyone is happy. We moved into the house and there was a question about buying a CM, the price did not matter. Our family: husband, me (pregnant) and child 1.7 (where children are there is a lot of linen). For a long time tormented by the choice and knowing that all the equipment is no longer made in Germany, Italy, etc., the choice fell on what you like (externally, programs + water saving (you can't pour as much as you want into the cesspool), on LG True Steam (F12A8HDS) 7 kg (1-7 kg) CM with a steam cycle (now they are the same size as 3.5 kg) I am very pleased with the choice and the first one went to wash a huge duvet, super! Do not scold LG! All manufacturers have breakdowns, defective parts. Successful choice and good, long service to our assistants CM of all brands! And I'll go see the dishwasher)))

Thank you!!!! I already bought CM and this LV F1092MD.. I hope that it will serve me faithfully like the previous 2. and it was Indesit, still of the Italian assembly and Ariston ... I rummaged on the Internet, well, probably out of 100 calls only 3 not very pleasant ones, and then one jumps around the bathroom, and the second is a lot of noise, I have neither one nor the other ... Sometimes I generally forget that my machine washes it - it picks up water noisier than it squeezes out ... while I'm happy, but what happens next, I don't know ...I also bought it on the recommendation of my friend's relatives ... and she has men there who understand technology ... So, if anyone decides to buy an LZ, my review will help. what else would you like to add, well, as I said, the machine is not audible how it works, there are basic programs, there is intelligent weighing, washing of bulky laundry, add. rinse, program Easy ironing, which surprised me - there is a spin on the wool program, but Aristone had to be forced to turn it on. a nuisance for me, the temperature cannot be chosen, no, it can only be chosen there such a range of -30,45,60,90, and spinning-400,600,800.1000 .. although I have analyzed, these are the main modes of both spinning, and the washing temperatures .. so I think it's just a force of habit - I didn't find any more minuses in it ... And she announces the end of the wash with a pleasant melody, so that the child will not flinch from the beeps ... there is also a child protection program and a drum cleaning -that's what this function means is not quite understood.

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There is also a child protection program and a drum cleaning - that's what this function means, I didn't quite understand.

I don't know exactly, but guess... rinsing the drum after washing ... suppose the black cotton linen was washed, the pile remained a little on the walls of the drum ... and then we load white and ... hello from the previous wash! Or, after washing woolen items, the fluff also remains in the machine.
There is no special function in my clippers, so I just put on the rinse program.

Googled ...

"Drum cleaning" function - the drum rotates at high speed in a large amount of water. This cleans both the drum and the tub of the washing machine.

Well, my husband and I settled on this model (if by the summer nothing new interesting will be released). It is both large and excellent in quality Electrolux EWG 147540 W. By the way, when the master did my old lady, he said about Electrolux that the machine is super, even probably better than Bosch now. But there is one but. Dislikes voltage surges.

My daughter had this or similar. She jumped a lot, which was not done with her, she broke down very quickly, that repairs were no longer needed. We bought it in 2003 -2004, at that time 24 tons. had good money. Now we bought a model in a simpler way, I also have one, at first it was not enough what was in that model, but now we are used to it.

The purchase of a washing machine is ripe, what can you say about the Samsung?

My Samsung wf6528n7w is very happy. There is nothing to compare with, but everything suits me. I can change the washing program myself if I'm not satisfied with, for example, the temperature or the number of rinses or the spin speed. You can install everything yourself (5 rinses can be installed.) There is a separate drain. rinsing and spinning. and just spin. everything is displayed on the scoreboard and you can see how long until the end and what it does (for example, a second rinse, there is one more left). I like.

There is also a child protection program and a drum cleaning - that's what this function means, I didn't quite understand.

Cleaning the drum is a very cool function, so that they do not say who does not have this function, washing does not go to idle at all, when cleaning you need to hold down two buttons as in the instructions and the machine first picks up the floor of the water tank, soaks, drains the water, then picks it up again and intensive washing begins at 60 degrees, while no means like lemon and other powders are required, then rinses follow, but not usual, but at high speeds, so that a "whirlwind" forms in the tank. I use this function a lot, so every time you are amazed at how many shit

Cleaning the drum is a very cool function, so that they do not say who does not have this function, washing does not go to idle at all, when cleaning you need to hold down two buttons as in the instructions and the machine first picks up the floor of the water tank, soaks, drains the water, then picks it up again and intensive washing begins at 60 degrees, while no means like lemon and other powders are required, then rinses follow, but not usual, but at high speeds, so that a "whirlwind" forms in the tank. I use this function a lot, so every time you are amazed at how many shit

Can be more? How long does the cleaning program last? Second time, too, is gaining half a tank? The fact that "everyone" is where you can see? then in the filter?

Personally, I use this cycle once every two weeks, as I wash och often, family 5 people.maybe it will be okay for someone once a month, especially if you use different silanes and lenors, mucus forms under the drum, which decomposes and smells unpleasant

girls, the machine is already 2 weeks old, I really like it, it even seems. which erases better. I really switched to powder-Eared nanny ..

And we opted for such a BOSCH Washing machine WLM24441OE)) they will bring it today, I hope it will please)))

My husband ordered today a Daewoo wall washing machine, which was mentioned here. They should bring it tomorrow. I'll see what's what.

The above-demonstrated effigy of the Korean industry costs 13 thousand rubles. Weighs 16.5 kg. Well, along with everything (linen and water will be 20-22 kg). Loading - 3 kg. We intend to use it as an additional to the large one There are all sorts of socks / underpants, suddenly smeared things that would be good to wash right away, and not drive a 6 kg car for one blouse or dry stains while it is full. Baby underwear is very important for me. For the same reason. You have to accumulate for several weeks! 3 bodies weighing 300 grams are reluctant to drive in a big car. Here.

Wow! A funny thing. I also have a Daewoo automatic, air-bubble. The tank is huge and can be washed both in the automatic mode and as on a simple typewriter of Soviet times. Well, that is, program only the washing mode, take out things and rinse by hand in a basin, and the next batch is washed in the machine. Convenient when straining with detergent.

Here, as I promised, I show. The machine is already hanging and running:

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I just bought my INDEZIT IWSB 5105 for half a year, I hope that for a long time, until I regret it (yes, along with the ELECTROLUX ESF43005 dishwasher) and I don’t regret nikapulechki

After 1 year of work, my Gorenje WS 50Z129 N machine was covered, it flows on the side and due to the renovation in the bathroom I decided to buy a new machine, because Gorenje was not happy. Stopped at Siemens WS 10M441 OE. Yesterday I phoned a lot of shops and everywhere a machine under the order and wait 4 weeks. Today, luck smiled at me in one store and seemed to have promised to bring it on Friday, unless they were deceived.

In connection with the imminent move, the question arose about buying a new SM. Since the aged Ardo will not be placed in the new bathroom. I choose narrow, front-loading and non-Russian assembly. As a result, the choice in our city was reduced to AEG of the Italian assembly.
Does anyone have such? How are they in operation and reliability? Is it worth overpaying for them?

I have siemens wv1080 ​​for 15 years now, I wash every day, an unkillable machine, I changed it all the time, I myself have a drain pump and a belt I'm happy with the machine, a hard worker, a smart girl

Tell me, pzhl, who knows. When spinning at high speeds, the machine starts to rumble VERY loudly. It is impossible to be around. Moreover, on delicate programs the rumble is less. In all other respects, everything is ok. The machine is ancient. That it flew and will the repair be expensive?

Maybe it's not exactly, not according to the level. Or there is a lot of laundry in the tank, sometimes it happens to me, half of it has to be taken out. The typewriter is also already 11 years old.

Julia, it began, perhaps, really because of the large amount of linen. And now it is always like this, regardless of the download. On top of her, the stove is periodically unscrewed, but then the sound is different - as if a drum beats. And now it’s the rumble. The typewriter is 15 years old or even more, I don't remember.

It makes sense to keep old cars and call the master to adjust. Modern washing machines have a margin of safety, often exactly for the warranty period of two years, where in two or three years the belt shatters into a rag, and it makes no sense to repair them.

So I don’t want to buy a new one.

In connection with the imminent move, the question arose about buying a new SM. Since the aged Ardo will not be placed in the new bathroom. I choose narrow, front-loading and non-Russian assembly. As a result, the choice in our city was reduced to AEG of the Italian assembly.
Does anyone have such? How are they in operation and reliability? Is it worth overpaying for them?

Natasha, AEGeshka is the daughter of Electrolyuskin. My Lyuska has been plowing with drying for 15 years, be healthy. During this time, we changed the pump once and once some graphite brushes (they have worn off from time to time). True, the car has already become Vidocq ... But I still love it very much and it will be a pity when it gets covered. When this happens, I'm going to buy an AEGeshka. It seems the same, but outwardly I like them more!

The machine is ancient. That it flew and will the repair be expensive?

Ksyu, most likely it is the weights for the washing machine that are broken, now they rumble. Or the tank is deformed at the bearing mount. Also, perhaps the tank shock absorber flew - this is the simplest and cheapest repair from possible reasons (my shock absorber was changed for a long time, even under warranty). I have about the same story with the old washing machine - everything works, but it makes so much noise during the spin cycle that I feel sorry for the neighbors, so they wash on it only during the day. The car is 18 years old, and I am still waiting for it to come to a head.

Gal, the Weighting agent from above was already tightened. The husband also speaks. that most likely a bearing of some kind. So I think, call the master or wait until she .. tavos. It is possible to turn on theoretically without a centrifuge.

In connection with the imminent move, the question arose about buying a new SM. Since the aged Ardo will not be placed in the new bathroom. I choose narrow, front-loading and non-Russian assembly. As a result, the choice in our city was reduced to AEG of the Italian assembly.
Does anyone have such? How are they in operation and reliability? Is it worth overpaying for them?

I have AEG for 10 years. German is 100 percent.
Works great. We only changed the pump and that's it.
Great car!

Natasha, AEGeshka is the daughter of Electrolyuskin. My Lyuska has been plowing with drying for 15 years, be healthy. During this time, we changed the pump once and once some graphite brushes (they have worn off from time to time). True, the car has already become Vidocq ... But I still love it very much and it will be a pity when it gets covered. When this happens, I'm going to buy an AEGeshka. It seems the same, but outwardly I like them more!

Len, AEG is not a daughter of an electrolux. They were two different firms, then they merged, I don't know who bought whom.
I have a refrigerator AEG-Electrolux. Assembling Spain.
In technosila I watched AEG assembly italy. Beautiful)

The husband also speaks. that most likely a bearing of some kind.
So I think, call the master or wait until she .. tavos.

When they changed the bearing in a relatively new one (also already 11 years old), the craftsmen later said that it was necessary to change the tank itself (not the drum, but the tank), the bearing had already been hammered a little. But my washer is expensive, bearing replacement cost a pretty penny, and they told me about the tank when they brought it back from the repair.
Ksyu, it's better to call - what if it's a shock absorber? then the game can be worth the candle ...

Was she still taken away ?? I don’t know how to push it out from under the countertop ... the whole problem, but to drag it to the car ...no, let her die.

Was she still taken away ?? I don’t know how to push it out from under the countertop ... the whole problem, but to drag it to the car ...no, let her die.

It was because of the bearing that they were taken away, I also waited for this bearing for three months. But they dragged everything themselves, they only charged me two thousand for it. And the old Ocean's shock absorber was changed on the spot.

They brought my new assistant AEG L57126SL on Saturday. Beautiful!
Renovation of the new bathroom is moving towards completion. As soon as we install-connect-wash, I will immediately unsubscribe.
The drum, in comparison with the old woman Ardo, seems to be huge.

Congratulations, Natasha, with your new assistant! So pretty!

Can you please tell me which washing machine to buy? I want to buy my mom for her birthday, since her bathtub is small, preferably a narrow machine, I looked after 4 kg indesit - from 7 thousand rubles - and most importantly, it is very narrow, 33 cm, but I began to read the reviews - and they are not very good.

My very first Samsung machine worked for 8.5 years - during this time, only the water supply hose was changed, but it worked so well., Now I also have a Samsung - she is 4 years old, so far everything is fine.

I would take my mother a Samsung, but they are not so narrow, of course I will still look at the store and compare the sizes. Can anyone just have Indesite from 2000? How are they?

I have Indesit 1996, still works well. But I bought an expensive machine, with drying and the current quality cannot be compared with the past. There is no European assembly, solid China. I would be guided by reviews. Assuming that they write mostly not satisfied, but if you look objectively at what they are complaining about, you can get a fairly complete picture of the device's performance.

So I am of the opinion that it is necessary to protect what is, if it works. I don’t see my alternative yet (quality and duration of trouble-free work)

Can you please tell me which washing machine to buy? I want to buy my mom for her birthday, since her bathtub is small, preferably a narrow machine, I looked after 4 kg indesit - from 7 thousand rubles - and most importantly, it is very narrow, 33 cm, but I began to read the reviews - and they are not very good.

A narrow washing machine - no way! If the company is lucky, then in the narrow one there is only one plus - small dimensions.
Further, some minuses ... You will suffer.

[lesik_l]

lesik_l, yes, I read that until 2000, many cars were German, Italian, etc. assemblies - that they have good quality - they worked for 10-15 years. Thanks for your feedback.

igorechek, thank you., I already bought a washing machine on a weekend - I stopped at a Vestel - a 4 kg machine,
depth 37 cm - narrow but not like (indesit 33 cm) - just mom doesn't need a machine for 5 kg - she won't pick up so much laundry, and most importantly she needs an easy-to-operate machine.

The Indesite did not like the fact that the door closed tightly and opened, sooooo.

They took it in m. Vidio - I immediately bought a guarantee for 3 years (during this time, if something happens to the machine, it will be possible to change it to another one, and not repair it) its price is ridiculous - 7,490, + 1 thousand guarantee for 3 years. Assembly Russia. The factory where the cars are produced is located in the Vladimir region and the headquarters of Vestel (Vestel) is located in Turkey.

I decided to take - to risk - the assembly of our production machine., Economy machine. class.

I don’t remember whose build my mother had, but we are not particularly happy with this brand. She began to crumble almost before reaching the warranty period. Well, I heard something from him and made it out, a little later, I don't remember what happened there, but the problems would have been much more serious.

4 years ago I bought a narrow Siemens model for 4.5 kg. Ttt - no complaints. And Candy's parents are 6 kg, but they chose a simpler model, without a touch panel with several short programs - so far there are no complaints about work. But Electrolux disappointed: as soon as the warranty ended, the electronic control unit failed, it was diagnosed for a long time, then they could not order for this model, then (after 1.5 years) they brought a more suitable one, but it did not work with it in all its functions.

[Giraffe]

Giraffe, thank you, we will drive the car to watch, so I took an exchange guarantee for 3 years.

I read a lot of information - so I want to share it with anyone interested, who and what releases.
More and more large world manufacturers of household appliances are moving their production closer to the place of consumption, especially when it comes to such a capacious market as the Russian one. The remoteness from European factories leads to unjustifiably high transportation costs, which can only be reduced by opening production in Russia.
In recent years, many firms have done this: Indesit Company produces washing machines at the Stinol plant in Lipetsk.
The production of washing machines in Russia is organized by several companies. Bosch has built a plant and a logistics center in Strelna near St. Petersburg.

Washing machines under the Indesit and Hotpoint-Ariston brands are manufactured in Lipetsk. The LG plant is located in Ruza, Moscow Region.There are two enterprises in the Vladimir region at once: in Kirzhach (Beko) and in Aleksandrov (Vestel).

Some factories are also used for the production of machinery of other brands. Candy cars are produced at the Kirov plant. The production of automatic machines is also established in Ukraine - the Zanussi plant in Ivano-Frankivsk, and the well-known Minsk company Atlant operates in Belarus.


The Electrolux plant works in St. Petersburg, Candy bought the Vyatka plant in Kirov, VEKO in the Vladimir region and the LG plant in the Moscow region ...
Zanussi washing machines produced in St. Petersburg from the new SMART family. Vestel in Aleksandrov, Vladimir region.
Samsung -production Russia, China (not Kareya as some sellers say) Gorenje (Burning) -Slovenia, mainly Russia produces.

But the decoding of Bosch washing machines (Bosch) is where they produce, that is, they are assembled.
1) Bosch front washing machines (model marking):
WLX (3), WAS, WAY - Germany,
WLM, WLO - China,
WLF, WLG, WLX (4) - Russia,
WAQ - Spain,
WAE, WAB, WAA - Turkey, Turkey and Poland.
2) Bosch top loading washing machines:
WOT - France,
WOR - Poland.
3) Built-in Bosch washing machines:
WIS, WKD - Germany.
4) Washer-dryer:
WVD, WVF - PRC.
From all this we conclude that a brand is obtained - maybe German, Italian, Turkish, etc. etc. - but the assembly can be both here in Russia and in another country.

GUARANTEE - IT DOESN'T BREAK?

The duration of the warranty period is one of the factors that indirectly testifies to the quality, more precisely, the manufacturer's confidence in it.

As we learned, the warranty obligations for washing machines assembled from us do not differ from those given by brands for their "overseas" appliances. That is, the companies' policies in this matter are not geographically referenced. And formally, the quality system should be the same at all factories of one firm.

In reality, we all know that every country has its own mentality and attitude to work, therefore we feel the traditional distrust of our “golden” working hands. But, according to our consultants - company specialists, in vain ...

All factories have several stages of quality control, and not only finished cars are checked, but also those components from which they are assembled.

For example, at the Kirovsky plant, all washing machines are tested before packing, they simulate a mini-wash cycle, 2% of the devices from a batch are tested with longer cycles, and 20 machines per week simulate a full life cycle, which is 10 years of use.

At the plant in Kirzhach, there are three stages (input, internal and final) and two levels (selective and 100%) control. Purchased components and components produced by the plant undergo selective acceptance control and 100% control during assembly. The assembled product is subject to 100% performance control on the assembly line and spot checks by the laboratory.

It is also important that the enterprises have certificates of the international standard ISO 9001, which guarantee the production of products of stable quality. And the fact that the factories producing washing machines are very new and really equipped with the most modern equipment also speaks in their favor.

The longest warranty for its washing machines (manufactured since January 2011) is given by ATLANT Inc. - 3 years.

LG provides a 10-year warranty on its Direct Drive motor plus 1 year on the machine. Indesit, in addition to the standard one year warranty, provides 5 years of free service.

The warranty period for Vestel, Beko washing machines is 2 years. However, from April 1, 2011, some Beko models will have a 3-year additional manufacturer's warranty (the buyer must register on the company's website within 1 month from the date of purchase).

Bosch washing machines come with a standard 1 year warranty.

I have a narrow Siemens, normal flight nnn ...Then a bosch flew from friends, they called the master - he told this ... In general, the kalgon in the trash - instead, once every six months, run the machine in cotton mode with a bag of lemon. Liquid powders ONLY IN THE TANK - having previously diluted, of course, since the scourge of washing machines is not even scale, but mold that creeps through the tubes through which powder and rinse aid are fed from the cuvette and then no way to remove it ... In general, somewhere like that ...

[vatruska]

vatruska, probably still depends on water, that is, hard or not., and the build quality and details, etc.
I have never used -calgon and so on. And I recently learned about citric acid - now once a year I must remove it from lemon. acids. boiling - it very well removes scale in the shade and in general in the car.

The other day my mother took Siemens, she is very happy, but I hear that you can't use Calgon for the first time)) on the contrary, I try to use it all the time, damn, has it really been spoiling the vatruska washing machine for so many years, what model do you have?

About kalgon vot 🔗

And the Siemens narrow machine of the 12th series - I won't say for sure - I lost the sticker (they are no longer on sale, I took it from the last batch). It has been working for over 7 years.

In my opinion the best Miele washing machine, but the disadvantage is the price. Siemens or Bosch are in second place, followed by Samsung or LG.

vatruska, thank you !!! I read the first few posts of the master, and everything became clear)) now I will try citric acid, as I understood it should be poured into the drum itself or into the powder compartment ?? I’ll teach my mother too, otherwise I’ll ruin the new car.
Kirks, I don't know how it is, but Siemens suits us)) and the quality of the wash is normal, and the unit itself too !! in principle, we are satisfied, so my mother took almost the same as ours.

[ElenaB]

".. but I hear the fact that you can't use calgon for the first time)), on the contrary, I try to use it all the time, damn it, really spoiled the washing machine for so many years

First, about the reliability of washing machines.
ElenaB gave good information about the factories. I will add only "Atlanta": in addition to the 3-year warranty for the machine, there is a 5-year warranty for the engine (Siemens). Nowadays we all forget about 10 ... 15 years of machine operation any brands without breakdowns. NOW there are none! Why? Here we read (and compare with the opinion of the repairmen):
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And a little nuance: not only Germans collect cars at factories in Germany and Italy. No more indesites, electroluxes, siemens with boshes. And there are the same names with the prefix new... Type Vasyuki was turned into New Vasyuki. With production policy, as in the article. Bought, - rejoice for 3 years - thrown away ... and over again

Much more depends on the detergent. There is a hefty forum here. Already I took out all the brains - I don’t know "chekupit".
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A small selection of forum gurus:
"... The detergent should be maximally removed from the laundry when rinsing. Powders with tripolyphosphate have such properties - this substance is completely soluble, it softens well and removes greasy stains from the fabric.
It is believed to be the cause of allergies if there is a high residual content in the laundry.
This is eliminated by the correct dosage and a good rinse.
Most powders of prof. class have in the formula precisely phosphate, which does not settle in machine mechanisms and also prevents scale deposits, reduces the rigidity of the laundry.
Zeolites - aluminosilicates, are more environmentally attractive (inert), but do not dissolve in water. Zeolites partially settle on the linen, it is completely impossible to rinse them out, the linen gradually becomes coarser and fades. Zeolite can migrate to the respiratory tract and cause allergies. reactions in sensitive people.
Powders with zeolites cannot wash at the level of phosphate, so they are often "upgraded" to the desired level of detergency by adding silicate, soda ash, etc.
In the machine, the zeolite often remains in the form of a powdery or crystalline mass, this can be seen on the filter.
Especially there is a lot of zeolite in eco-powders, up to 30%.
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An excellent concentrate, does not spoil the laundry, there is little foam and washes the color well. With amplifier, suitable for white.
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The reviews are positive.
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And ours are not bad, imported ones are even better.
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A great thing for demanding lingerie, quality clothing.
Does not shrink and shed, softer than similar powder, less alkaline. Economical - 75 ml per wash is enough.
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Good for white and light-colored, non-fading underwear - professional, economical. Contains bleach.

It is better not to save much and use well-known brands. They have fame and obviously will not be a hack.
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Well, I also read about Calgone there. Advised to read the word by syllable

"... Calgon is not needed at all.
In normal powder, everything is already added against scale ... "
Happy wash everyone!