Arbena
Tell me, do you use stands under the legs when installing the washer?
When buying, the seller very much persuaded me that these stands are necessary.
They are inexpensive, I succumbed and bought.

And when the masters came to install, they flatly refused to use them.
And the car stands well, does not jump at all, I am very happy.
True, it does not work for long, but does the duration and quality depend on the legs?
lesik_l
The main thing for the seller is to sell more goods. So do not be embarrassed, they are not so necessary.
Arbena
It turns out that way.
These coasters cost about 200 rubles, a trifle compared to the machine. But I wanted the best
lesik_l
Well, one cannot say that they are completely useless. If the machine is on linoleum or on the tiled floor next to the bathroom, where there is a possibility of water getting under the legs, they are needed. In the first case, there will be no dents in the linoleum, in the second, the machine will not "slide" during operation.
louisa
I recently chose a car for my mother, now I am looking after myself, I was surprised that all the sellers in stores unanimously advise only LG, I somehow mistrust it, is this a publicity stunt or is it really good cars?
Arka
After drilling all the space in search of reviews, I stopped at Boch, although I really wanted LG.
for this reason, at first, she was meticulous about her Bosch
but did not find any flaws
there are a lot of programs for any type of washing, from silk to down jackets, and a wide range of washing times - from 15 minutes refreshing to intensive 3 hours
possibility of additional loading after the start of washing
delayed start
all sorts of add. functions such as "easy ironing", "economy", correction of time, speed or temperature, add. rinsing
in short, I did not find any flaws, no matter how hard I tried
julifera
In my old Zanuska - this whole set is
Only there is also an automatic biomode - for a better effect of enzymes on dirt.
Maybe now it is on by default, I don’t know, but earlier attention was focused on this

Well, now they say Zanussi is not the same as before
Arka
Quote: julifera

Well, now they say Zanussi is not the same as before
yes, now a lot is not right, that's how we "moved" to China, that's how everything fell apart
there are very few models left, cat. collected in more decent countries, but China is now a big share of luck
louisa
Quote: julifera


Well, now they say Zanussi is not the same as before
I now have a zanussi, a vertical, for 6 years of service, in principle, it has never let down, but the quality of washing is not at all worn out to me, at 40 degrees nothing is washed even with expensive powders, anti-stains, etc., so I decided to change it, but that's just I don't know what
Inusya

Virgo, today my "bobby is dead" finally, having served me faithfully for 14 and a half years in the "Chinese laundry" mode. Resuscitation disappears, since everything has already changed, both the belt and the board were cleaned at one time from the effects of dampness, for about five years, something deteriorated once, but insignificantly, but today, during the start of washing, the stench of wiring went, but I stubbornly did not turned off, she washed the poor conscientiously, but when the spin started, she howled before she died ... and died. By all indications, as dad said, most likely this engine did not endure such torment. Already a couple of times I scared her with a trash can, she corrected herself, and today we see a kirdyk!
Now the question is, where to stop the choice? ...
First of all, it is important for me:
- depth - no more than 45cm (since there is a restriction on furniture in the kitchen)
-spin at least 1000
- front loading and at least 4.5-5 kg ​​of linen
- stainless steel tank
-desirable drying
- a variety of programs (in the sense of special programs, such as a short and delicate wash.
All the rest of the parameters, such as efficiency in water and electricity, worry me last. Of course I would like a direct drive, but as far as we know, this is only from LG. And somehow I haven't heard much about them.
I monitored the market by the availability of cars under two waters (cold and cold) - but I realized that this is not the case in our post-Soviet collective farm (and I’ve got used to it for 14 years) I knew, I would have bought two cars then.
In short, a stupor! I can't choose anything. Can share your thoughts, who have similar problems. I just now realized how you get used to GOOD things and how you don't want to buy bullshit after them. The market seems to be full, just that, you start looking for what you want, yeah ... schazzz.
Girls share who is happy with their brainchild having similar requirements, pliiiz!
While I'm doing my laundry at my mother's place, since she is in my neighborhood at the site, but I still have to search ...
svetane
I, too, have my Indesite WT 80 on its way, as it seems to me. Serves faithfully for 8.5 years, a stainless steel tank, erases decent repairs, not a single one. After the 3rd move, it began to leak a little bit, apparently from the inside. So I think whether to repair it, or buy a new one. From the jambs, the lid in the joint has undergone corrosion and the appearance is not ice, well, the rubber bands have changed color and have decreased or something. In any case, there are 2mm gaps between the body and the rubber band.
Julia V
Girls, three weeks ago my Indesit broke down, he is already 10 years old. I put the wash on, and the machine washes for an hour, two, three, and everything is on the "wash" program, the machine did not go into rinsing. I began to switch it forcibly. I rummaged through the Internet, what could be the problem, it turned out that the ten was burned out. And for sure, she turned on the wash at high degrees, and the water remained cold. They called a familiar master, he changed our ten, said that everything was fine inside, the bearings were still good, and there was no rust. He said that there is no point in buying a new one yet. I took it with ten and only 150 UAH for work. By the way, this is the first breakdown over the years. I think that the old washers are of better quality than the current ones, so we won't buy a new one yet.
Pira
Sharing my opinion about my car: AEG LS 60840 L with front loading type. I bought it more than a year ago, first for myself, and then for my daughter. No complaints yet - I like it very much. Quiet (they say thanks to an electronically controlled inventory motor), economical, many programs, good load capacity (6 kg), narrow (45 cm). The drum rotation speed during spinning is up to 1000 revolutions. I really like the program easy ironing - shirts really do not need to be ironed very much. Look, read - maybe you will like it. I wish you a good choice.
Leska
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Inusya
Girls, I still can't boast, I was there a month and a half ago crying about the "dead bobby", and so early I was upset, I got it repaired on the same day. I have already sentenced him completely, and my master came, opened the lid, looked, and said, "What do you really want to throw out? And you won't even ask about the repair?" I thought about it. He listened to my story, looked at what smelled burnt there, saw melted wiring, unscrewed some little thing with wires, cut it off and threw it away, connected it directly and everything - WORKED !!!
It turns out that the wiring on the fuse has burned out, the master said that it would be like a native to work without it (maybe for the same number of years) ...
Julia V, - after reading your breakdowns, I also realized that our old ladies are still hoo! Let's take our time.
Jaroslava 333
I apologize for getting into the wrong topic, but since there was a conversation here about descaling the machine, the question is: how to clean the dishwasher? I bought Kolgonit several times, but it is very expensive, even too ...
Natalia K.
I also sentenced mine to a landfill. Somehow, 10 kopecks flew under the drum, and when washing and spinning, my mother did not cry. I called the master. he opened it and looked at it and dragged out 10 kopecks which somehow had grown to the tenu. The master was shocked when he saw it, he said if it was correct, the ten should have burned out a long time ago. He cleaned these 10 kopecks off and everything began to work well and quietly. So, I'm very pleased that my machine washes quietly again. I have a whirlpool
Giraffe
Zanussi stopped squeezing normally. Both times little things got into the filter: for the first time, daughter's hair tie, and this Sunday my husband pulled out the house key, lost in the spring, 10 kopecks and a badge from his son's jeans. I really hope that the machine will work longer, because in the process of searching for a machine for my mother, I did not find an alternative for myself. I would only add more weight, but the drying and light ironing mode, and everything suits me. Let him work. By the way, there is no scale.
Keti
Girls, has anyone heard of this typewriter:
Washing machine: which one to buy

Eurosoba 1100 Sprint Plus inox I

The machine has a program for children and people with allergies. It is possible for them to wash in more water and increase the number of rinses. This is a small-sized washing machine with a built-in computer that allows the user to create washing and spinning programs on their own. Liquid crystal display on which all the necessary information about washing is displayed. The most advanced balancing system that even allows you to put a cigarette vertically on a running machine. Self-diagnosis of malfunctions. Centrifuge: smooth change of revolutions from 500 to 1100 rpm. The unique EUROSOBA 1100 washing machine has acquired amazing possibilities: the washing time for all main programs has been reduced by almost 2 times! For these properties the EUROSOBA 1100 has received the "Sprint" prefix. At the same time, washing class A remains, while the energy consumption has become even less (energy class A +). The auto weighing system effectively saves energy and water when not fully loaded. The available filter (on the front panel) can not only be easily cleaned by yourself, without the involvement of specialists, but if it is clogged so that the water does not drain, the unique emergency drain system allows you to gently drain and clean the filter without flooding the floor of the room. The Russified control panel makes it easy to set any desired washing program.
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I was interested in being small, smart, and not shaking.
Feedback from users is interesting.
Width 46 cm
Height 68 cm
Depth 45 cm
lunova-moskalenko
Well, here I am in this thread. On January 2, my Boshik broke down, which served us faithfully for almost 13 years and without a single breakdown. To be honest, we have not even cleaned ten during this time. Boschik was vertical loading, with an electronic display, pure German. We bought it once in a second-hand shop. Yes, in a second-hand shop. True to order. At that time he was only two years old. When the master looked at our machine, he said that now (and it was 2002) you won't find such people. Now there is a question about buying a new one, damn we got to the holidays, we sit as dirty, at least go to the neighbors to wash ... At first they wanted to take the upright again, but after some thought, we came to the conclusion that if we put a shower stall in the bathroom, then it is already there for the machine there will be little space and decided to put the typewriter in the kitchen. Therefore, so far, we have chosen this model Electrolux EWG 147540 W.
Girls can someone have one, tell us how it is in operation?
Rita
Nadyusha, I also have Electrolux. True, only the year and the model is slightly different. But it is very similar. I like. Works quietly, washes clean. Does not jam laundry if unloaded immediately after work. But the pump works loudly against the background of other modes.

Why do you need an embedded model? It is much more expensive. At one time in my kitchen there was an ordinary washing machine under the countertop.
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: Rita

Nadyusha, I also have Electrolux. True, only the year and the model is slightly different. But it is very similar. I like. Works quietly, washes clean. Does not jam laundry if unloaded immediately after work. But the pump works loudly against the background of other modes.

Why do you need an embedded model? It is much more expensive. At one time in my kitchen there was an ordinary washing machine under the countertop.
Rita, thanks for the answer. Why embedded? Well, here I have completely relied on my husband. It is also very good in its characteristics. And the difference between built-in and not very big, literally a couple of hundred. This does not affect the family budget so much. My Boshik has taken off so much lately that I think the work of the pump will not be very noticeable. Rita, what is your Electrolux.
TaTa *
nvk

I have an Electrolux EWG 14550 W, I'm happy, quiet, the only thing annoying is that you can't increase the spin speed on the set programs, but nothing, I put one more spin separately
Rita
Electrolux EWF 107410 W is such a model.
TaTa *
Embedded below? Add a countertop and they will be the same. If your bedside tables are high for you, you can cook on the table, that's what I do
I bought the built-in CM for aesthetic reasons, when I made a new kitchen, and it was hidden from the children, they did not press the buttons and they did not put anything into the drum
annnushka27
Quote: nvk

Well, here I am in this thread. On January 2, my Boshik broke down, which served us faithfully for almost 13 years and without a single breakdown. To be honest, we have not even cleaned ten during this time. Boschik was vertical loading, with an electronic display, pure German. We bought it once in a second-hand shop. Yes, in a second-hand shop. True to order.
It is written directly about my typewriter, Bosch, vertical, second-hand German, the current broke down a couple of days before the New Year. It washes, and when you need to rinse, it works, but the water is not poured, and starts blinking as if there is no water. I turn it off forcibly, put the RINSING program separately, it rinses normally, then rinses it, again put the rinse, in short, I have a semiautomatic device. Something else leaks from below, and the air conditioner does not take it away, it remains in the tray. They called the masters, they said that it was necessary to take them away and watch them, but after the holidays, because they have holidays, no one would do it, but I do at least somehow wash, all the same children, the youngest still won't make friends with the pot. I consulted with them which one to look after, they said that verticals are impractical, when the lid rises, the water flows down and at the point of attachment begins to quickly rust and rot. Like it's a disease of modern verticals. And I am so used to the vertical, I can’t even imagine how it’s with a window, it’s because I have to bow to her. , although there is enough space. We advised LG, 10 years warranty, direct drive, they still have such a silver plate. I do not even know. Maybe this one will be repaired, now there is no money, only on credit. But in the summer we want to change anyway. I'm looking closely for now.
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: annnushka27

It is written directly about my typewriter, Bosch, vertical, second-hand German, the current broke down a couple of days before the New Year. It washes, and when you need to rinse, it works, but the water is not poured, and starts blinking as if there is no water. I turn it off forcibly, put the RINSING program separately, it rinses normally, then rinses it, again put the rinse, in short, I have a semiautomatic device. Something else leaks from below, and the air conditioner does not take it away, it remains in the tray. They called the masters, they said that it was necessary to take them away and watch them, but after the holidays, because they had holidays, no one would do it, but I do at least somehow wash, all the same children, the youngest still won't make friends with the pot.I consulted with them what to look after, they said that the verticals are impractical, when the lid rises, the water flows down and at the attachment point it quickly begins to rust and rot. Like it's a disease of modern verticals. And I’m so used to the vertical, I don’t even imagine how it’s with the window, it’s because you need to bow to it. , although there is enough space. Advised LG, 10 years warranty, direct drive, they still have such a silver plate. I do not even know. Maybe this one will be repaired, now there is no money, only on credit. But in the summer we want to change anyway. I'm looking closely for now.
Annushka, specially looked at the attachment points, nifiga, there is no rust .. I have a different story in my typewriter. She completely does all the operations, but the drum itself does not spin. Therefore, the laundry is not washed. But it does not podtiket anywhere and now gives error 07 on the scoreboard. The master said in absentia that it was necessary to disassemble and diagnose, he also promised after the holidays. We, like you, have no money, but I figured it turns out that I overpay a little more than a piece in a year, provided that I pay half the cost now. Not profitable, it's easier for me to get into the strictest economy and buy a car right away. As for the non-practicality of the vertical, my friend, the master (it's a pity that he lives far away) told me that they are now almost like a lottery in terms of efficiency. Maybe the vertical line will hit and the horizontal line is not ice. We wanted Bosch, but my husband has read a lot from the reviews and came to the conclusion that we will take Electrolux. And I also have my sister LG with a direct drive and she told me categorically not to take it, they have already turned to the service center twice in 2 years of using it. As far as bowing is concerned, it's easier for me, my husband washes and hangs out clothes all our life together. I actually don't go to the washing machine, this is his direct responsibility. Therefore, if he wants to bow (and it is even useful for him, such as exercise) let him take the one that he liked.
lunova-moskalenko
And I have good news. My current machine was repaired! Pah-pah-pah, my master came and just changed the brushes. But we found out for sure that the machine was of 1998, and it always seemed to me that it was 2000. My girl is already a pensioner, she turns 15 in March. This is what the Germans did before. Now I can calmly hold out until the summer and buy myself a car in the summer without any fuss.
Natalia K.
Nadia, how well it ended. Maybe she will work for another 15 years, and you will waste her
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: natalisha_31

Nadia, how well it ended. Maybe she will work for another 15 years, and you will waste her
And do not say, all this time the current and there were thoughts well, where to get money without straining for a new one. The master said that she is in excellent condition, the current is now until the brushes are worn down, it is better not to give her large loads, they say, let it work at low speeds, they say 800 is enough for her, and then you can turn it on fully. But nevertheless, in the summer I will take a closer look at the new one, especially since we have finished repairing the kitchen, so we will buy a new one. And I can throw this one to my son in the hostel, let the boys wash themselves. Already over there, I called back to my son, saying, throw things by the bus and I’m rubbing everything.
Natalia K.
Quote: nvk

But nevertheless, in the summer I will take a closer look at the new one, especially since we have finished repairing the kitchen, so we will buy a new one.
And a dishwasher to boot
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: natalisha_31

And a dishwasher to boot
It's probably not real yet. I still need to expand the kitchen, so for now with handles and handles. Moreover, somehow my dishes wash quickly ... I won't see ironing, but washing is quite normal for myself. Probably, living from birth in the old fund, where the water was outside and the current was cold, and if it was necessary to wash it hot, then a bucket of water with gas and a basin of 20 liters, probably affects. Therefore, when I got married and moved to my husband with a gas water heater, washing was a thrill for me, and then it was my son's duty to study before he left for college. He knew if there were plates in the sink, it was his job to wash. We sometimes joked about where my cool dishwasher was!
Natalia K.
Quote: nvk

It's probably not real yet. We sometimes joked about where my cool dishwasher was!
Everything is real in our world. It can't be cooler, and nafik you a simple dishwasher without bells and whistles
annnushka27
Hope, I sincerely congratulate you !!! Let your "pensioner" serve for a long time! I, too, in the attachment points, everything is fine, these are the masters talking about modern verticals, and definitely not about the "Germans". One of these days we will also give ours for repairs, I don't know what they will say yet. But in the summer you need to take a new one. I think you can order from Germany again? Something is here and I don't know what to take. We have one man doing this. They say Miele is good from there. By the way, I also ordered a dishwasher from there.
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: annnushka27

Hope, I sincerely congratulate you !!! Let your "pensioner" serve for a long time! I, too, in the attachment points, everything is fine, these are the masters talking about modern verticals, and definitely not about the "Germans". One of these days we will also give ours for repairs, I don't know what they will say yet. But in the summer you need to take a new one. I think you can order from Germany again? Something is here and I don't know what to take. We have one man doing this. They say Miele is good from there. By the way, I also ordered a dishwasher from there.
Anya, Miele is a really cool company. A man carries b. at.? We, too, boom in the summer to take exactly a new car, while we stopped at Electrolux. Eh, to find someone who again brought the company from there.
annnushka27
Oh, he carries a lot of things, he has his own big car, how I went to his garage, it’s new and used, but I don’t know about washers. He carries food (tea, coffee, chocolate), and everyday life. chemistry, TV sets, builds. tools, rubber on cars, etc., etc. I’ll call him closer to the summer and find out. I want some more frost. watch his camera. It's just that he doesn't live in my city, otherwise I would often visit him.
Julia V
Anya, another man from Orekhovo who repaired our washing machine, he also carries Miele.
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: annnushka27

Oh, he carries a lot of things, he has his own big car, how I went to his garage, it’s new and used, but I don’t know about washers. He carries food (tea, coffee, chocolate), and everyday life. chemistry, TV sets, builds. tools, rubber on cars, etc., etc. I’ll call him closer to the summer and find out. I want some more frost. watch his camera. It's just that he doesn't live in my city, otherwise I would often visit him.
And I want to buy a freezer in the summer. Let me fall on your tail too. Well, what is there to hit the road to Saki? I have my own Gazelle cargo-passenger. Maybe it's worth puzzling him now, you know how it happens, suddenly he sees something decent, but there will be no order.
annnushka27
Quote: Julia V

Anya, another man from Orekhovo who repaired our washing machine, he also carries Miele.
Hi Julia! Did you ask the price?
Zhivchik
I had an Italian-made Ardo car. This is a car. She worked for us for approx. 10 years. and still works. True, we had to change it to another car, because we decided to buy an automatic machine for my parents, because it was hard for my mother to wash with a regular one. We bought Indesit with electric control. Parents would not have dealt with her. I had to give my Ardo with mech control.
As a result, after 1.5 years, the car completely broke down. Before that, she often had glitches.
Conclusion: there is no worse washing machine than INDEZIN. (!)
Julia V
Well, well, old Indesite is still niche. Mine is 10 years old, and this year only the first breakdown, ten burned out.
Zhivchik
Quote: Julia V

Well, well, old Indesite is still niche. Mine is 10 years old, and this year only the first breakdown, the ten burned out.

Most likely they did better earlier. But this model .... First of all, there is such a thin layer of enamel that it shines through and what a "clumsy" this machine is, angular.
As they say - everything is cognized in comparison.
Julia V
I once read a forum about washing machines, and the word Indezhut was always there. At first I didn’t get it, but then it came, they call it Indesite. Yes, they say Indesite is bad now. Anyway, even 10 years ago, all the equipment was of better quality. The master looked at our car from the inside, he says it's good, and the stainless steel inside is real. A little machine rusted in my place where the container for pouring the powder, well, well, the old woman will work.
Softpaw
Good night everyone! The question of buying a new CM is also ripe. Now there is a 3.5 kg Samsung, she is probably 5 years old ... I don't remember exactly
Erases more or less ... but it is not enough for us
So we're thinking which one to take ...So that there are 6 kilos, with basic functions (quick, extra rinse, wool, delicate ...), maybe a children's program ...

While we looked at Boshi and Skis ... We don't know which is better ...
Please advise on choosing a car
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: Softpaw

Good night everyone! The question of buying a new CM is also ripe. Now there is a 3.5 kg Samsung, she is probably 5 years old ... I don't remember exactly
Erases more or less ... but it is not enough for us
So we are thinking which one to take ... So that there are 6 kilograms, with basic functions (quick, extra rinse, wool, delicate ...), maybe a children's program ...

While we looked at Boshi and Skis ... We don't know which is better ...
Please advise on choosing a car
Well, my husband and I settled on this model (if by the summer nothing new interesting will be released). It is both large and excellent in quality Electrolux EWG 147540 W. By the way, when the master did my old lady, he said about Electrolux that the machine is super, even probably better than Bosch now. But there is one but. Dislikes voltage surges.
Keti
I found an interesting article about installing and connecting a washing machine. Read useful information.

I just had a question - If you do not connect the ground to the meter, then you can:
1) use an extension cord with grounding;
2) socket for el. plates (who has);
3) portable residual current device (RCD)
Yes
So in this case, you can not bother and not lead a multi-meter cord from the meter?
And one more thing: it is written that during installation it is better to immediately put the car on a pedestal, so that in which case you can easily drain the water, clean the drain filter from debris, and not wipe the floor.
hrushka
A grounded extension cord must be plugged into a grounded outlet or it is useless.
lega
Quote: hrushka

A grounded extension cord must be plugged into a grounded outlet or it is useless.

Everything is correct ... but if there is no such outlet in the apartment, and in general there is no outlet near the machine, then an extension cord with grounding is needed and plugged into a regular outlet through a portable RCD.
One of the varieties of portable RCD Washing machine: which one to buy

Quote: Keti


So in this case, you can not bother and not lead a multi-meter cord from the meter?

You don't have to bother, but this is always a certain risk. Normal electricians would not recommend this.

Quote: Keti


And one more thing: it is written that during installation it is better to immediately put the car on a pedestal, so that in which case you can easily drain the water, clean the drain filter from debris, and not wipe the floor.

Here is some very dubious advice. Firstly, this pedestal must be built so that it is strong, non-slip, leveled. Secondly, the legs will have to be rigidly fastened so that the car does not jump off. And why are these troubles? Just in order not to substitute a container for water? (I had a special tray in the kit, but I got lost. Now I'm just laying a rag.)

Kisena
The purchase of a washing machine is ripe, what can you say about the Samsung?
mowgli
looking for a typewriter to buy. traveled to all shops-advise-Bosch, LV, SAMSUNG, I do not know where to stop, the machine is needed within 16, maximum 18 thousand, can someone advise something?

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