Washing machine: which one to buy

"... Calgon is not needed at all.
In normal powder, everything is already added against scale ... "

Finally! At least one smart people the cat is caught! And then everyone is crazy about this Calgone. Throw away extra money only! On the packages of powders it is written in Russian in white that an anti-scale "something" is already present in the composition!

Girls, SM "ARDO" with vertical loading began to leak (Italy, in May it will be 15 years old). It flows every other time (during washing, I put a rag on all the time) ... Repaired 2 times - the first - when the fastener on the cover burst (after 2 years of operation) and the second time - the drain pump was changed (after 8 years of operation).
I started looking for a replacement for her ... 4 days studying descriptions-characteristics-reviews ... I stopped at ELECTROLUX EWT 1266TDW. What do you advise?
Can someone use it?
And more .... can anyone know how to remove dried powder from the powder compartment (compartment is NOT removable)? Otherwise, after each wash, I knock out the powder with a screwdriver ...

I wonder what the girls will answer. I will be silent.

Vit, excellent, and most importantly, the necessary information)) ala, and if boiling water is poured into the powder department, everything is not washed off early, I do this on my old woman all the time)) Well, I will not brag about my washing machine, it is already old and they probably don’t produce such , but my mother's Siemens iQ800 i-Dos WM 16Y890 OE, with some clever bells and whistles, you can read on the internet while she is happy.

Found a sticker! SIEMENS WS12X440OE

And more .... can anyone know how to remove dried powder from the powder compartment (compartment is NOT removable)? Otherwise, after each wash, I knock out the powder with a screwdriver ...

At home we switched from powder to tablets for washing, and now we use transparent dissolving capsules. Thrown directly into the drum and the shell dissolves from the water. Washes very well. One capsule costs differently. We buy "in bulk" at discounts, it turns out 12-13 grew. rub. If during a regular sale, it will be over 20.

Found a sticker! SIEMENS WS12X440OE

Nice car. Siemens was then independent.

Found a sticker! SIEMENS WS12X440OE

class, only tiny, my mother has twice the load, the bathroom allows, therefore I took it with a large load, for now I carry big blankets to her to wash))))

No, I have no more strength, I will express my insult. Probably out of luck.
In general, I had 4 automatic machines - 3 of the same brand. These three were just wonderful (they washed everything, it was the machines, not the powder, they were up to any stains, well, of course they helped them with washing and bleaching agents), any wash, including delicate ones, was with an excellent result. It was some kind of holiday! But they had one thing but .... They worked without breakdowns and failures exactly as much as stated by the manufacturer (it was written "service life is 5 years.) After five years, minor breakdowns, leaks, and so on began. I decided to change the brand, I bought it. Kandy. Six months later, some programs stopped working. We took it to the repair. It was repaired for 2 months, but I immediately decided not to leave the machine for myself - why would I need one. I started looking for another one. Not to return to the proven brand ... I decided to buy an expensive one (for me) and only German assembly. Well, she took it on her head. Siemens, German assembly. Doesn't wash ANYTHING (kitchen towels, bibs, etc.), I tried all sorts of detergents, both expensive and inexpensive. The result is the same - all stains on the spot (both soaked and boiled, only the stain removers helped a little.) Wool does not wash at all, it just gets wet and squeezes out.All. In general, sheer disappointment, for the money. For more than a year I have been suffering, thinking of getting rid of it. I will take my favorite brand, let it be for 5 years, but no problems (I hope the quality has not changed during this time).

3 of the same brand. These three were just wonderful

I will take my favorite brand

And which one, if not a secret, of course ...

And on the contrary, I am satisfied with the Siemens WS 10 M 441 OE machine, I just fell in love with it, it washes well, smart and most importantly quiet.
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Girls, help poke me where. Washing machine lies, bought 4 months ago. I washed it today, as I started to knock straight to jump, even moved from its place. What to do?

Well, from my point of view, first make sure nothing like that gets into the tank. Then, just in case, clean the car - well, Siemens actually has such a requirement - regularly after 5-6 washings, clean the lower impeller (i.e. drain points) for blockages. After the situation, depending on where you bought it and on what terms. If m-video, Eldorado, etc. with an additional guarantee, then call the store where you bought it and solve the issue there. Otherwise, probably to the service that is indicated in the warranty card.

Thank you! We will think about how to tell whom to tell from the family: girl-th: Let's take action.

Anatolyevna, if you are talking about cleaning, then my machine has a small door at the bottom of the case on the front panel, everything is cleaned very calmly without unnecessary hands. Does your machine have such a thing that needs to be cleaned from blockages - see the instructions.

It is also a problem which washing machine to choose and quality and assembly is not Russia. we have Millie's dryer. and wanted to put a washing machine on top of each other. but reviews for milli are not very good. and the price is from 40t. While opted for Siemens, made in Germany with the function of washing down jackets. the price seems to be in the 40t limit. and the reviews are good

And which one, if not a secret, of course ...

No, it's not a secret, these are VEKO cars. Sorry for the slow response, I was not at home.

Siemens WS 10 M 441 OE

I have a WM10S47AOE, which is also quiet, but all its pluses cancel out the bold minuses, although the main criterion for choosing was not the Russian assembly. So yesterday I "glitched up" again - I refused to wash at 90 grams. Already tired of her "glitches" and disgusting washing.

I apologize wildly for the stupid question - did you watch the tension?
And then I only after buying a refrigerator discovered that we have 165 W in the network, and he, the poor one, has an operating voltage of 200-260. I had to put a stabilizer and pull a separate line only for the refrigerator and on a separate machine. Likewise, the washing machine sits (in the sense of a separate line and with its own machine).
I also know a case when people could not bake bread on a Mulinex bread machine, and it worked perfectly in the house across the road - they began to understand - tension - there are too many devices on the line.

Well, don't you apologize. Servismen checked and rechecked everything. We are now regular customers. By the way, x / n and m / w work perfectly.

I bought a new washing machine a month ago. I looked through the Internet and went to the store with the firm intention of purchasing Bosch, Siemens or AEG. And at the very last moment she changed her mind and bought Samsung. So far I like it very much. It erases perfectly, there are many preinstalled programs, and plus you can manually set a program with the desired duration and the desired options. There is a soaking function and you can set up to five rinses. When the filter or drum needs to be cleaned, the indicator comes on. The only pump works quite loudly, but it is in the bathroom and cannot be heard when the door is closed. Hopefully it will work for a long time, but actually now all the lottery technique.

[svetlanna]

svetlanna, unfortunately, buying equipment is now a lottery, as it gets. Before Siemens I had Gorenie worked for 1 year and ordered to live long.

I have a WM10S47AOE, which is also quiet, but all of its pluses cancel out the bold minuses, although the main criterion for choosing was not the Russian assembly. So yesterday I "glitched up" again - I refused to wash at 90 grams. Already tired of her "glitches" and disgusting washing. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=68115.0

It’s a paradox ... I have had your twin for many years, I don’t prescribe a wash above 40 degrees, because it washes away all the dirt during the hour program, even the towel with which I collected spilled oil.

Unfortunately, buying equipment is now a lottery

Truly so! In our kitchen there is a SIEMENS refrigerator (two-compressor) 1994 (!!!) of release. During this time, only one compressor was changed, and it was our fault that it was unsuccessfully rearranged during the renovation in the kitchen. And we will not change it yet. Maybe the early technique, any, was much better?

Previously, all this equipment was a novelty, all production facilities were at their own factories and the quality of products fought for customers. And now? There are so many proposals that the eyes run up. It is simply unprofitable to do high-quality, it is necessary to buy new things faster. Almost all production is in China, so there is almost no difference. Someone takes technology (but this is simply unprofitable - a year, another, and all competitors will have your invention, remember the Dyson with their cyclones), and someone with design and bells and whistles for a "smaller" amount is Samsung and lg. As servicemen say - how to react if the question why you chose her - the answer is "she is so beautiful !!!".

Truly so! In our kitchen there is a SIEMENS refrigerator (two-compressor) 1994 (!!!) of release. During this time, only one compressor was changed, and it was our fault that it was unsuccessfully rearranged during the renovation in the kitchen.

Sveta, share your experience - what did you do wrong?

[igorechek]

igorechek,
since there were no special assistants, my husband and I pulled all the furniture and equipment ourselves, and when moving the refrigerator, I accidentally kicked it in the area of ​​the compressor (fingers like a kicker), and apparently shook something off in it. After that, the freezer compressor did not turn on. They called the foreman, changed the compressor (stinol). It was in 2008.

Need advice from experienced housewives)
The question arose of choosing a washing machine, but I do not understand them at all.

I wanted to buy Indesit IWDE 7105 (I know it's good, my friend has it).
"+" She attracted me by the presence of drying - 1st floor, there is no balcony in the apartment.
"-" Prices have risen, it costs $ 500 now
"-" She is on 7 kg of laundry, but I live alone and I have a little washing.

Another option is to buy a cheaper car for now. The main criterion is to wash well!
But which one? They are all great if you read the descriptions and the reviews are conflicting.
Maybe someone will share their thoughts on this matter or just advise a good budget model from their own experience?
The budget option is also supported by the fact that I will probably be doing repairs in a couple of years. Buying built-in kitchen appliances, including a washing machine. True, I don't know how they are made built-in, they should be completely silent and motionless? ..

I would be very grateful for your advice.

I advise you to take all the same German washing machines, even if the assembly is not in Germany. If the panel records operations in German, give preference to this particular brand, as this is done for your own.
AEG, Miele best cars

I don't want to reread the whole topic, maybe they already wrote about it.
I just want to warn you: don't take Ariston !!! After they began to rivet her (there is no other word for it) in Lipetsk - she has an UNDEMOVABLE tank. That is, when after 3 years of use my bearing flew and the car rattled, it was not possible to change the bearing. It is necessary to completely change the tank, it costs 8 thousand (6500 tank + work), while the cost of the car is 11-12 thousand. Of course, they threw out the car and bought a new one.
Before Ariston there was Samsung, they changed the bearing for 800 rubles and the car has been working for 12 years in total (I gave it to my daughter, because I wanted a bigger size)

[Wiki]

Wiki, I agree that the Samsung is good, but I have a typewriter. 5years - for this time it works well without problems, but recently I took a dishwasher and there was a rack with used equipment next to it - this is when they exchange it, well, something did not like it or broke down, but they didn’t fix it and changed it with a surcharge for a new one according to the warranty card , and so the whole row was Samsung, most of the cars, I asked the seller why?
To which he said that the quality of the cars became worse.

Muzochka Read on page 15 of this topic a few articles - who and what produces.

Samsung has big sales, if only because of the price compared to Mile, for example. Therefore, of course, there will be more returns when you sell thousands, and not 5 pieces a year. Well, plus the Samsung is that they have services in almost every village, that is, there are no problems with repairs and spare parts.
I do not insist on Samsung, I just gave an example about bearing replacement. In Sams, you can change it for little money. Just like any other machines with a collapsible tank.
But Ariston has a non-separable tank, you must pay attention to this when buying.

[Wiki]

Wiki, So I just wrote (I’m not trying to dissuade anyone), I was surprised myself that there are so many returns, it’s probably not for one year, but nobody wants to buy.
I have a washing machine, vacuum cleaner, split. system, microwave oven, TV all samsung

The author is now determined would not interfere with what she actually wants ... Or budget for a year and a half or a good and reliable that way for 10-15 (a little different money ...). If the first, then the kandy with elenberg will come off (it will not be so a pity to throw it away). If the second - then, as I heard, asco, mi, bosch (German assembly) - they all have built-in. I heard about drying that a separate drying unit is better. Samsung - how will you use it - my aunt has been working for 5 years already, and during the same time my friends have already changed 3 machines under warranty (but they wash every day and more than once).

But Ariston has a non-separable tank, you must pay attention to this when buying.

So Ariston and Indesite are one and the same, well, except that Indesite is sometimes a little worse.))
And now even Electrolux (and Zanussi, respectively) have a non-6y 6y. With raz6ornye so far 6cx (except for the most 6rod lines) and Koreans hold.

And you can explain for those who are in the tank, why do we need a collapsible tank? Personally, I don't care what kind of tank, as long as it works fine and doesn't break down and I'm not going to climb into the car myself, but it's more expensive to repair it now.

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, so I now understand why a collapsible tank. My Indesite is 8 years old. After 2 years, the bearing flew, in order to change it, the tank needs to be disassembled (but it needs to be changed, when spinning it makes a noise like a liner taking off), but it is not collapsible. The husband asked the master how to repair it, they said you could cut the tank. I didn’t give it, I still use it, rattling, until it breaks at all, then I’ll buy a new one. So here they wrote above, it would be collapsible - they would replace this bearing, and that's it, otherwise either the entire tank can be changed (expensive), or cut ("saw, Shura, saw"), but I'm not sure that it will be reliable.
In general, I don’t like my machine, it doesn’t wash ANYTHING that I put in, I pulled it out, in fact it just rinses it in water.

Have you tried Vanish? I only have a combination of persil + vanish all the dirt leaves.

No, and that the truth is Vanish - a worthwhile thing? Otherwise, nothing comes off without washing with handles.

This is the case when - YES !!!!
Now I do not wash or soak anything.

I use Japanese powder, it washes everything.

fought for customers with product quality.

The bourgeoisie changed their tactics. Servicemen, when they find out that a typewriter (any) is 10 years old, unanimously say that only repairs! Until it falls apart at all ... in 10 more years. And everything that is new is done so that after 3 ... 4 years it would break down and repair would cost half the cost of a new one.I found an interesting article about this policy: how they did it before and how they do it now. And why. There is an interesting example about a light bulb that has been burning for over 100 years!
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I use Japanese powder, it washes everything.

How? Lion?

And non-separable tanks can be sawed and sawed. Then they glue or connect with self-tapping screws and again the machine is on the move. On one of the forums, I even saw step-by-step instructions with photographs of how to change a bearing with a non-separable tank and how to cut it.

And how much does it cost to cut a tank? Well, of course the assembly.
For a collapsible bearing, I paid 800, for a new non-collapsible tank they asked for 8000 thousand. There is no sense. For 9-10 you can buy a new one.
At me Ariston thundered to the last, then the tank dripped. I live in my house, nothing happened. And in the apartment, you can also flood the neighbors for an N amount.

Lion didn't work for me ... unlike the dishwashing liquid - that's where the buzz is !!! Therefore, I also wonder what brand of powder.

Lion didn't work for me.

It must be handled carefully, according to the instructions. I'm on the forum 🔗 I've been sitting in the bushes for a long time and reading specialists. Everything Lyon, Lyon! I even ordered it.

I tried a lot of them ... Percil, by the way, I take German in cardboard boxes. Right now, the truth fell on the gel pads for the action (309 re for 32 pieces). Haven't tried it yet, but I'm going to

Yes, I use Lyon, I mostly take the Blue Diamond or 'Top Home' (for drying clothes indoors).

[Wiki]

For a collapsible bearing, I paid 800, for a new non-collapsible tank they asked for 8000 thousand.

Wiki, a strange amount of 800 rubles. Two years ago I had a problem replacing a bearing. In my native service, a bearing with work cost 12 thousand. Naturally, the toad choked me and I called a lot of "non-native" services. They called me the price from 5000 rubles. In the end, I still had to go to my "native", because for my CM there was no necessary bearing. But I am amazed at the amount you have named.

girls, cute ... help))) I can't choose a washer)))
they say that you only need to take with a direct drive .... who knows what about this ?? tell me!

[Wiki]

Wiki, a strange amount of 800 rubles.

Didn't see the message.
Probably depends on the model. My car cost only 12 thousand, so the bearing for it could not cost that much. And no one would change it for that kind of money.
In Ariston, they offered to change the tank (since it is non-separable) for 8 thousand. I didn't even think about it and bought a new Samsung for 9900.
Well, makes sense to repair for that kind of money? 8 thousand is the same without delivery back and forth. If you pay for delivery / loading, then it will be even more expensive than a new one.

[voltage drops]

they say that you only need to take with a direct drive ...

Can I help the boy?
Direct drive is LG's signature feature. Most. No belt or brushes, so it's quieter. However, it is not that very quiet. It breaks as well as with a belt drive, i.e. rarely. Motors break down much less often than electronic modules that control them (motors). And their repair is not cheap, but simple: I threw out the burned-out one, put a new one. The cost of the question is some thousands. Of course, the belts are torn and the brushes are burning, but their replacement is rarely cheap. And a direct-drive washer is much more expensive than a belt washer, and for the difference you can stock up on a pair of boxes of belts with brushes, which are very likely to stay unopened. But with electronics and bearings, washing machines have parity - they fly out the same way. Therefore, you need to be interested in machines, the repair of which is relatively inexpensive and problem-free with the provision of parts. Boshar, for example, can make you wait for a spare part for months, and the repair will cost half the cost of a new one. Take information not from sellers, but from repairmen. Go to the service and take a look at what is there the most. There will be a lot of "everything" and everything. Washers 10 years ago, these are spaceships compared to the current ones, which are like a bucket of nuts. Alas, the bourgeoisie has such a policy: "3 years - and go to the landfill. Buy a new one, hard workers need a salary for washing machines."And so they do. What would not be unfounded: 🔗.
Therefore, if you hear someone say: "My Indesit-Electrolux-Candy-Samsung, etc. has been working for 10 years! ..." tell them in response hee-hee-hee and look for the owner of this miracle 5 -years ago. You will not hear an enthusiastic squeal. So don't bother with direct drive versus belt drive. The engines are equally reliable. And the cars are different. Direct is more expensive. Screams that it has a 10-year guarantee do not scare you. Belt drives can also take 10 years. There is nothing especially to break, the windings do not burn so often. And belts and brushes, I already wrote, cost a penny. But protection from voltage drops typewriter must have definitely! Do not rush to Boshar and Siemens. The cars are good, but they are not asking for adequate loot. Do not rush to the drums with all sorts of "bubbles" and special holes. There is little sense from this garbage, and you will have to pay from above for it. It is worth paying attention to the energy consumption class, the spin class (not lower than C, B is enough). RPM during spinning: 1000 is enough for the eyes. But 1200 will already be more expensive, but not so necessary. I rarely squeeze 1000 - I regret the machine. But someone likes to take out the shirt from the drum, put it on and go to work. This is already 1400 and 1600 rpm. Do you need it? Squeezing out even at 600 rpm in the morning you shoot dry.
I give links to satisfy interest:
🔗 - here below about Bosch interesting
Take a walk here: 🔗 - there is a direct drive.
🔗 - there are all sorts of different.
Start reading either at the end or at the beginning of the year. Look for reviews on cars 5 years ago, how they work. Forget everything that was released earlier. Now they don't do that. And when he came across a phrase like: "I made my choice based on the positive experience of a friend who has had an LG machine for about seven years and is very pleased with it."Say to yourself:" HA-HA-HA "and read about the other.
Good luck to you!