Bijou
And my Bosch has a dent on the lid. It has been working for eight years, knows nothing about a loose structure.))
Omka
Friends, good afternoon everyone,

I ask for advice from the collective mind.
Need a replacement CM.
Initial data:
Narrow, 45 cm
Spin not less than 1000
Delay start
Quick wash, delicate wash
The ability to wash one thing (my current bad burning does not do this, even if this one is a hefty duvet cover)
The price is not critical, the main thing is that it is reliable and without any idiots.

While I'm leaning towards Bosch, the previous one worked perfectly for 12 years and was replaced by this one only because of the size ...
Thank you all in advance
Melrose
Omka, I advise Boshik, she herself had 2 of them. The only thing is that they are now being collected in Russia (Peter, it seems), but if the money is not critical, you can get a German too. I always washed in Boch, and then the devil pulled (the seller persuaded) to take LG - for almost a year now "I curse the day when sat at the wheel of this vacuum cleaner started to use ski. Of course she does wash, but everything about her pisses me off - everything is somehow unfinished
Omka
Just about, everything pisses me off, that's exactly the word. Also, the seller three years ago spun my husband on Gorenje, like Bosch is no longer the same ... The Gorene plate is gold, but SM ... How the master from the service of our native Gorenie was laughing at us that we exchanged Bosch for this ...
Alex100
Quote: Omka

Just about, everything pisses me off, that's exactly the word. Also, the seller three years ago spun my husband on Gorenje, like Bosch is no longer the same ... The Gorene plate is gold, but SM ... How the master from the service of our native Gorenie was laughing at us that we exchanged Bosch for this ...


It looks like these plates were everywhere spoiled urgently, they also tried to pile this Gorenie on me, although it seems that the seller is familiar ... (((
I already wanted to take it, but something pushed me away ...
Omka
Does anyone have such a house?
Bosch WLT 24440
Owners, share your impressions!

And who has Boshik narrow by 6-7 kg - can he wash and wring out normally one thing? For example, one jeans or one blanket?
Because Gorenie refuses ...
Ulitk @
We have AEG. Narrow, 6 kg, different programs, assembly Italy. There is a half load. One thing is erased.
Washes everything perfectly. Has been working for more than a year, I'm happy.
Model AEG L 57126 SL

P.s: this is what prices went up
Omka
Ulitk @,
According to the description, I liked this one
AEG L 57627 SL
but the price ... 100 tr ... Given that Bosch is about 40 ... Is it worth it?
At first I looked in the direction of Millet, but they have no narrow ones, the family budget is saved
Tanyusha
Omka, look also Siemens, I have already my second year and I am very satisfied. I have a WS 10M441 OE.
Ulitk @
Quote: Omka

Ulitk @,
According to the description, I liked this one
AEG L 57627 SL
but the price ... 100 tr ... Given that Bosch is about 40 ... Is it worth it?
At first I looked in the direction of Millet, but they have no narrow ones, the family budget is saved
I bought mine at about 20. Now she is under 50.
I don't even know if I would have bought it at that price or not ...
She suits me completely. I just want to dry it
Bijou
Quote: Tanyusha
look also Siemens, I have already my second year and I am very satisfied. I have a WS 10M441 OE.
Well, I wouldn’t like this model. ))) Bosch will be called WLM 20 (or 22, 24) 44 (it doesn't matter how). But now they seem to be gone, they are Chinese. Now the St. Petersburg WLK is a replacement for them, although not complete. ((

By the way, in Chinese women, the weakest point is the hatch handle, so do not allow to pull it too much, so as not to change it later.
Svet.0209
I have a Bosch wlk 2426 with a depth of 44cm. max loading 6 kg. Washes and squeezes even one thin blouse perfectly! Before that there was LG, Boshik erases much better.
Sens
Quote: SVET.0209
Before that there was LG, Boshik erases much better.
by what criteria did you define it?
vatruska
Sens, sorry, but for this you need criteria? Can't you see the type?
Babushka
Quote: SVET.0209

I have a Bosch wlk 2426 with a depth of 44cm. max loading 6 kg. Washes and wringes out even one thin blouse perfectly! Before that there was LG, Boshik erases much better.
Svetlana, I completely agree. I have Samsung, my daughter Bosch. I go to her to wash good things. Fortunately, we live in one complex. We use the same powders ...
Sens
Quote: vatruska
Can't you see the type?
so what do you see ???
I just do not really understand how it is better "much"
Or did you have a semi-dirty after washing?
I have a fourth washer and they all gave good results.
vatruska
Sens, I don’t even know what to say to you ... I personally live by the sensations ... it erases faster, more carefully, stains are removed from one cycle, well, I don’t know ... I personally suited the bubble Daewoo, now Siemens is also suits, but you have to adapt with the powders ...
Omka
Thanks everyone for the answers,
I realized that I would change back to Bosch or Siemens (there will be a girlfriend for my dishwasher).
The current SM, however, senses that it can end up in a landfill, for several days not a single glitch ... Well, let him live for now, if he behaves decently
Ulitk @
Quote: Sens

so what do you see ???
I just do not really understand how it is better "much"
Or did you have a semi-dirty after washing?
I have a fourth washer and they all gave good results.
Yes, things are straightforward to the eye.
My old Ardo did not wash much, I had to soak / blur / rewash ((
The new one washes perfectly without any problems.
My husband, wearing a white T-shirt, thought that I had bought a new one, asked three times - is it really old? After the old typewriter, it was kind of clean, but it turned out to be a little grayish.
The only BUT. At the new place, where the machine was purchased, very soft water (its own well + cleaning and softening system).
And in this water, it seems to me, a more "soapy" solution is obtained.
julia_bb
Quote: Ulitk @
The only BUT. At the new place, where the machine was purchased, there is very soft water (its own well + a cleaning and softening system).
So that's the point!
Sens
Quote: Ulitk @
At the new place, where the machine was purchased, there is very soft water (its own well + a cleaning and softening system).
I think this is a more important factor than the quality of work, see

our water is not hard. maybe therefore there is no difference between cm ...
Babushka
Sens, if you will, I will express my opinion. The same things look different after washing in Bosch and Samsung. I specially chose similar programs: mixed fabrics, duration in Bosch 1 hour 43 minutes and in Samsung 1 hour 36 minutes. The water is the same: the house is one.
After Bosch, things look updated, without creases. After Samsung, you have to straighten it very carefully, the cuffs are not always washed. Something like this.
Erhan
Samsung does my washing much better than Bosch. There are many criteria, one of them is when, after washing in Boch on a long program with an additional rinse, I iron, then some things smell of sweat (my husband does not feel). Also visible in the whiteness of soccer socks and white towels.
Sens
Quote: Babushka
After Bosch, things look updated, without creases. After Samsung, you have to straighten it very carefully
this is spinning and kneading after it ...

Quote: Babushka
Sens, if I may, I will express my opinion.
thanks for your opinion

there is no point in comparing see compare brand names. for a correct comparison, see they must be from the same segment of the product line: budget versus budget, premium class with similar.
Babushka
Quote: Sens

this is spinning and kneading after it ...
Just about, he even writes on the scoreboard: loosening ...
You are right, my daughter has a premium class: four times more expensive than mine.
AnastasiaK
Babushka, I somehow have no luck with typewriters all my life - no cuffs and collars are washed! I always wash them by hand with a brush before putting them in the machine.This is despite the fact that the shirts are not worn, they are changed daily. I have had this observation since the first automatic machines appeared in the house. Before that, I did not wash (it was small). Over the years, all sorts of powders have been tried. The result is that if you do not wash it off, pulling out the shirt, you will see stale marks on the ribs of the cuffs and collars.
It sounds like a miracle to me that the machine washes stains. I never do it. Kitchen towels that are washed, that are not washed. Fresh of course, the overall tone is clean, but the stains .....
Babushka
Anastasia, my first machine was Turkish Acherlik, bought 22 years ago, cost like a plane, connection to hot and cold water. She washed everything. Unfortunately, I stayed in Almaty with the apartment and still works fine. After moving, I have been suffering for 7 years. Only daughter Bosch sometimes helps out. She also has a stain-removing program. But I'm not ready to give that kind of money for SM again ...
Babushka
I always add vanish when washing. Especially shirts and tea towels.
AnastasiaK
Babushka, vooot. .. My mother in such cases quotes her mother: "What is it that your machines wash, soak and that's it. Until you put your hand ...". My mom is also extremely dissatisfied with the quality of washing her CMs, but she is not ready to wash by hand
And I have Vanish ..... stupid. Apparently from the wrong barrel. Not a bit better. Spat on everything. I tried to soak with Boss in boiling water for the night, as I read on the forum ... Yeah, schaz ...
mowgli
I do not know, everything is washed off ... sometimes I use Amway foam stain remover
AnastasiaK
mowgli, Amway also bought ... I have already resigned
A citizen
Quote: Ulitk @
The only BUT. At the new place, where the machine was purchased, there is very soft water (its own well + a cleaning and softening system).
Carbonate salts are the same as in plumbing.

Quote: AnastasiaK
I somehow have had no luck with typewriters all my life - none of the cuffs and collars are washed
Buy a gel (gloss, persil, ariel, tide) with a regular brush, apply to the collars, rub them in the machine, after 30-40 minutes you can wash.
Or make a very concentrated powder solution and it will, however, turn out a little worse.

Quote: Babushka
I always add vanish when washing.
And why, because everything in it is in the powders themselves.

Quote: AnastasiaK
And I have Vanish ..... stupid.
Absolutely true, this is a divorce.

Rita
Vanish must be used correctly, then it helps. First you need to spread liquid vanish on the stain. You can even rub the stain with a toothbrush. Leave on for 5-10 minutes. And then dissolve Vanish powder in warm water up to 40C and soak the laundry overnight.
Bijou
Quote: AnastasiaK
I always wash them by hand with a brush before putting them in the machine.
I have my bumpy big Bosch, the first in the house of the machines. About five years on the forums I was sincerely amazed when people say that stains and cuffs are previously "washed" or smeared with a stain remover or powder. Then I got used to it. I even thought that people's work might be so dirty ... Although I can't even imagine who my spouse's grimace from the factory can be.))

At the same time, our water is very hard (a kettle for gas is overgrown with scale from one boil), and the powders are the most common from the nearest stall. But the machine washes dry diapers bloody with childbirth at once, and I never turn on the temperature above 50 degrees, as well as soaking with preliminary washing.
Svet.0209
Wow, what a discussion has unfolded!
I compared by eye. The same bed linen after washing in the old car and the new boche was very different in appearance. Old, not in the sense of being ancient and for discard, but in the sense of the previous one (I had to give it to my daughter).
A citizen
Rita,
Look at the composition of vanish and any all-purpose powder not for colored fabrics.
So why overpay?
Bridge
We have the softest water in Murmansk. All other things being equal, my wash will be better. than many others. When I changed Vyatka to LG, I also thought that the new machine washes worse.But then I adapted to the programs, I realized when to use which ones. Now the quality of the wash pleases. Yes, I sometimes use Amway spray for cuffs and collars, pockets. But on the other hand, I wash kitchen towels without any fuss on the bio program. Probably, the quality of the water and the detergent is more important for the result. And nothing depends on the brand, even the durability of the work. For even the owners of cars assembled in Europe complain of imminent breakdowns. Now I'm not talking about luxury, they were not happy to try, compare. Therefore, it is probably better to focus on a suitable price and the availability of the necessary lotions. My washer is full-sized for 8 kg, but it washes the daily set of underwear and bust without any problems. Or one T-shirt after training.
vatruska
Girls, while washing German Persile + Vanish - there were no complaints. Percil is over, there is no nearby, which I just haven't tried ... in addition there is a lot of knitwear - you can't soak in boiling water at the temperature and with barefoot. I accidentally stumbled upon a combination - bimax + boss - great! (the vanish ended, and there was an unused barefoot in the house - so she poured out of despair ...)
Kalyusya
Quote: vatruska
bimax + boss - great! (the vanish ended, and there was an unused barefoot in the house - so she poured out of despair ...)

And I have never used vanish, I don't even know how it looks and smells.
And I have been using a couple of bimax + boss for a long time and with pleasure. More than 10 years for sure!
Bijou
And I'm just Beamax, without Bose. And without boiling water.
louisa
And I have been washing with an Eared Nanny for several years now, no different from expensive powders, I also add the boss, if there are a lot of stains
Chamomile
I wash everything in a row, I try to take not very expensive powders. Once a friend expressed the version that for better washing the powders should be changed. And preferably not only powders, but also a manufacturer. I try to do that. Often I add Bose and a little soda ash to the powder. And thanks for recommending a vinegar rinse. I really enjoyed rinsing like that.
Miranda1980
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Miranda1980, I bought my zanussi with such a good dent on the side, it worked for 10 years without any complaints

Well, I have LG and it is crazy ((
tana33
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What kind of tester is Roskontrol? for the first time I hear about him ((
redleafa
And to me, and tomorrow they will bring a new assistant! My zanusenka broke, she was either 10 or 10 years old, they decided not to repair it, it was too painful ... it accumulated a lot between the rubber bands, although I always washed it for 5+, well, maybe we'll take it to the dacha. For a long time I chose up to 20 thousand, ordered for three days and refused the Samsung, then the Candy. Stopped at Daewoo. Only 1 review found! Assembly South Korea.
Miranda1980
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And to me, and tomorrow they will bring a new assistant! My zanusenka broke, she was either 10 or 10 years old, they decided not to repair it, it was too painful ... it accumulated a lot between the rubber bands, although I always washed it for 5+, well, maybe we'll take it to the dacha. For a long time I chose up to 20 thousand, ordered for three days and refused the Samsung, then the Kandy. Stopped at Daewoo. Only 1 review found! Assembly South Korea.

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Inusya
The electronic module was covered to my old lady (Indesit 1040TH, 17 years old) I've been washing at my mother's place for six months already (fortunately, we live on the same site).
The master does not advise on the dump, he says, we'll try to find it. But something is not passionate. In it, this module is still "Mitsubishi", now there are none. I already agree with the analog, just to revive it. All mechanical functions are in order, but the "brain" is dead ...
Nobody came across? Maybe you can order where? Not here in Ukraine, but somewhere else is a thread ...
It's a pity for the infection, I know that if I buy a new one instead, so they now differ, only at the price ... I don't want to overpay for "tsatski". I love mechanics.
tefteli
Hello everyone! I wanted to join the discussion on the quality of washing and the choice of a washing machine. Maybe someone will be interested in my observations and conclusions.
What determines the good quality of washing: 1. The softer the water, the better it is washed and, accordingly, the harder the water, the worse it is washed (this axiom has been verified by me personally on my own experience). 2. From the detergent, its quality and country of origin (I personally switched to eco-friendly about 5 years ago - I myself make gel and powder for washing from soap, while instead of rinse I use vinegar with essential oils). 3. Of course it depends on the class of the washing machine. If the washing machines are of the same price segment, then there is not much difference. The higher the class of the car, the greater the likelihood of better quality (depending on the assembly, overseas assembly is many times better than Russian and Chinese).
As for the choice of a washing machine, it depends on your budget, the choice of functions and parameters of the washing machine. I had and still have 4 washing machines. The first - Candy for 3 kg, Italian assembly - was purchased in 2002. I don't remember the model, now she works for my mother. For all the time there was one breakdown this year - bearing replacement. A very good car, even now, when she moves, my mother takes it with her! The second - LG F1020NDS for 6 kg with direct drive, Korean assembly - was purchased in 2009, it stands in St. Petersburg where the water is very soft. Washes with a bang, especially at 40 degrees. Very quiet, not a car, but a song (it is musical). Works to this day without a single breakdown. The third - Atlant 60U107S for 6 kg, assembled in Belarus - was purchased in 2013. Very noisy, spinning at 1000 rpm - residual moisture is very high compared to LG. A year later, the heating element was replaced - it was in the Leningrad region, where the water is very hard. Now it is with other owners - they are happy (fans of the Atlant brand). The fourth - LG F10A8NDS 7 kg direct drive, Korean assembly, steam - was purchased to replace Atlanta in 2014. I am very pleased with it: quiet (I wash mostly at night), spinning 1000 rpm (spin class B - the percentage of residual moisture is very low), 6 movements of care - really, in different modes, the drum turns in different ways, steam wash is above all praise (refreshes and disinfects things with a bang) - I advise everyone. This car is already from a different price segment than the previous ones.
In general, when choosing a washing machine, pay attention to the amount of water consumed per cycle. From my experience, I can say that the more water is consumed per cycle, the better the laundry is washed. The Atlant machine consumed 42 liters of water per cycle - this is very little, the water during the washing mode did not cover the laundry by a third. In the LG F10A8NDS machine, water consumption per cycle is 60 liters - the laundry is completely covered with water, therefore it is better washed.
Miranda1980
the greater the likelihood of better quality (depending on the assembly, foreign assembly is many times better than Russian and Chinese).

the best wash quality you mean?

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