Ivanovna5
Igrig, Igor, unfortunately, will be able to answer you about the difference in diameter of the sieves only after comparing my sieve with the luxury one, when I get to the store. Or maybe you will post before me a photo confirming the difference?
As for the difference in shades of white, we know not by hearsay (I work as a supplier in another industry, but where it is very important to observe decor, shades and other characteristics, therefore, when ordering materials, I indicate the colors according to RAL). The manufacturer reports that the dryers are available in 2 colors: beige (cream) and white. When I bought my Walter, the store had both colors and I intended to take the beige one, but I liked the white one more.
I wrote that I got 2 pallets of a different color when buying additional sieves so that people would pay attention to this when buying an additional one. decides if a single color is important to them.
Viola, congratulations on your purchase! I wish you to serve faithfully! Please bring your reports with photos here.
Longina, Elena, and the old jam-jam ?! You can also dry the marshmallow from it, if it does not go away. My grandson does not want to eat jam at all, and the marshmallow does not linger on the table. His daughter constantly cuts marshmallows instead of sweets.
Igrig
Quote: Ivanovna5
Or maybe you will post before me a photo confirming the difference?
Alas, I have a dryer with 5 pallets of my own, I did not buy additional ones, because I did not have time due to incompatibility. Here in the topic they wrote about it. Both the sellers and the manufacturer are talking about this.
And in general, yesterday we gave our dryer to his wife's brother, he says that additional. pallets he does not need even though we tried to explain the need for additional. pallets, but it is impossible to convince him.
He lives in the Rostov region, his house and garden-garden - a shaft of fruit, so now let him regret his own lack of foresight.
And now we will take a dryer and 7 additional. pallets.
Longina
Anna, or you can recipe for marshmallow from jam. There is plenty of this stuff.
Viola
Itself made the marshmallow for the first time in life. I took recipe ideas on this forum. I took a pumpkin about 1.5 kg as a basis + an apple from a store 4 large seeds. It turned out about 1.5-2.0 liters of steamed mass. +2 bananas smashed with a blender and added to the cooled mass. +2 Art. l. Sahara. Divided the mass into 4 parts and added sesame seeds, oatmeal or frozen red currant juice to 3 of them. Lubricated the pallets with vegetable oil. It turned out 4 pallets for marshmallow. And at the same time I put on the other grates 2 chopped seeds, 2 bananas with chips and half-rings onions. I set it on the temperature as in the instructions of 60 degrees, after 1.5 hours I reduced the temperature a little and left the dryer overnight. The dryer worked for 10 hours. Everything has dried up well. With the exception of the bow, he should have stood still, he was on the topmost grate 7th. Regarding the marshmallow: apparently the pallets were filled not very evenly and not very completely, and p.e. in some sheets the marshmallow turned out to be bald. The pallet in which the red currant juice was added was absolutely evenly frozen, this pallet was with a more liquid content, this same marshmallow turned out to be the most delicious, with sourness. Tastes good with sesame seeds. The pan with oatmeal has dried best, apparently the flakes take moisture on themselves, but a less interesting option to taste. I specially set a grid with onions, the smell during drying is specific, a mixture of onions and fruits, but this did not affect the quality of the finished marshmallow and other fruits. Unfortunately no photos. Conclusion: the dryer is good. Compared to other dryers that simply supply air from below, this one clearly has all the advantages.
Longina
Viola, thanks for the detailed report.
Igrig
Ivanovna5,
Today I went and bought Walter a suite and 7 pallets. The soul seems to have calmed down.
But, as they say, spoons were found, but the sediment remained: it seems that extra. pallets were made of at least 5 shades of white (this is about RAL), and it was not particularly noticeable in the store, although I looked carefully, then I got closer at home. In principle, it's okay, but this is another pebble in the manufacturer's garden ...
Ivanovna5
Igrig, as they say, every cloud has a silver lining. Congratulations! I was also very interested in the luxury model, its characteristics have improved significantly. After reading your post, I thought that they gave their first dryer to relatives, and now they bought Walter a suite: maybe give it to my sister too. However, I first need to get my dryer from the service, I handed it over today. Stopped heating, but the fan is working. I blame my husband, he first "banged" a heavy box of apples on it, and then, in my absence, turned it on without clearing the hole. I came home after work and there are raw apples in the dryer. I was drying it in Dry Hove, I took Walter out of sight and forgot (there was no time to do it at all).
Paul I
Quote: Ivanovna5
Stopped heating, but the fan is working. I blame my husband, he first "banged" a heavy box with an apple on her
Change thermal fuse.
Quote: Viola
apparently the pallets were filled not very evenly and not very completely, and p. e. in some sheets of marshmallow turned out to be bald
Yes, I also thought that for leveling the mass on the pallet, a device such as the one that rolls out pancakes, the letter T.
Ivanovna5
Quote: Paul I
Change thermal fuse.
Pavel, I won't do it myself, because there is neither a soldering iron, nor rosin with tin (probably my son took it), and you need to know what kind of fuse you need and find it. I did not wait for help from my men, I handed it over to the service center. They promised to return it in a week.
Julia ***
Anna, I understand that you have both Dry Hose and Walter, which one do you like best? And in terms of reliability? At the beginning of the topic, Voltera had some technical problems, and now they are discussing all the trays. Interestingly, the manufacturers have solved this problem or everyone has resigned themselves. I have no service in the city of any other company. So I was at a loss, I don't know what to want.
sveta-Lana
Julia ***, we also do not have a service, when I had a problem, I contacted the manufacturer and they solved this problem, agreed with our service center, transferred money to them for repairs, they repaired the dryer in a day.
Julia ***
understandably, but now these dryers often have this breakdown, don't you know? Because Walter is already half Isidri. Something I am at a loss, but already need to be determined, the season is coming
Igrig
Julia ***, Because Walter is already half Isidri.

It should be compared with Isidri 1000, and it costs more than 15,000 tons! And Walter 1000 can be bought from 4,300 rubles, plus another extra. pallets are required.
Keep in mind that it is not yet a season for drying, by the middle of summer the price of Walter will certainly rise. Last year, in March, I took Walter for 3,300, and in the summer it was already more than 4,000!
With service: a manufacturer with a scratch, but begins to develop this direction, that year even in Moscow there was no guarantee workshop, and now there are two different ones, though for some reason at the same address!
Maybe you will have something.
Well, the dryer itself is definitely a wonderful thing in terms of functionality. The principle of distributing flows over each layer is a great idea, although it was not Voltex who came up with it, but ripped off the idea.
I can safely recommend it, the warranty is 2 years, so that "childhood diseases" can be cured.
Julia ***
Thank you! Convinced!
Paul I
In addition, Aviary is technical as simple as a rake and well maintainable, even with your own hands. Even without spare parts, it can be repaired and started "on the knee", which will not work with Isidri. Well, he seems to have solved the problems with plastic.
Well, Dry Wind is generally different, economy class. And there the problem with plastic is very large and the pallets are made technologically poorly. A little plastic will lead, they begin to fall into each other.
Admin
Quote: Paul I
what will not work with Isidri

What for? Isidri served me for 20 years, and worked efficiently until the last hour
And just in general, I rarely hear that they would give them for repairs, and looking for service department. And the warranty period is 3 years.

Today I have isidri again
Paul I
Quote: Admin
What for? Isidri served me for 20 years, and worked efficiently until the last hour
There is no perfect technique. Therefore, in case of possible marriage or other technical problems. It is not a fact that if you are lucky, everyone will be lucky.
Otherwise, Isidri would have been given an eternal guarantee.
Well, in a remote Siberian village, look for a Mercedes service ...
Admin
Quote: Paul I
Otherwise, Isidri would have given an eternal guarantee

And work without repair, and just without any interference in the interior of the dryer, for 20 years (or maybe someone else has more) ... this is the "almost" eternal "guarantee

Okay, everyone has their own dryer - buy and dry for health!
Paul I
Quote: Admin
And work without repair, and just without any interference in the interior of the dryer, for 20 years (or maybe someone else has more) ... this is the "almost" eternal "guarantee
It is so in a specific case. For the rest, you need to look at the statistics.
Again I will emphasize. In a village far from cities, Niva is safer than a Jeep.
Ivanovna5
Julia ***, of course, Walter is a priority: the capacity is much more, there is no need to rearrange the sieves and the smells do not mix due to the side air blowing, and my usual dry windy is with bottom blowing and only 5 pallets, you could add up to eight, but in this case the duration drying would have increased, and so the mushrooms in Dry Hove dried longer. When Voltera was not there, Sukhovey could not cope, I had to resort to the oven, I’ll tell you the hassle ... if you don’t keep track of it, it will burn, you don’t dry it, it will deteriorate, sometimes the "pleasure" of drying mushrooms stretched out almost all night. In terms of reliability and simplicity, Sukhovey takes the upper hand, since his circuit is simpler, there are no those fuses that sometimes burn out and it is easier to hand over them for repair if they suddenly refuse to work. Once Sukhovey herself repaired - the wiring was disconnected from the switch (this was immediately visible without a special device for determining the contact in the electric network), but she handed it over to the specialists, even if she was trying to figure out what was wrong. Accepted in the service, chosen by me for the convenience of location, where everything is repaired: kettles, irons, radio equipment, mobile phones, multicooker, etc., etc., etc. Therefore, there is hope that in the near future there will be no problems with its repair (if any) in any region of Russia, since it will cease to be a novelty. Another thing is warranty repair - the manufacturer needs to work on this, but still it should be understood that in every "village" (figuratively speaking) of our country there cannot be such, which, incidentally, applies to any technique.

I had a similar experience of repairing an umbrella: once upon a time I bought a novelty for an expensive price - a three-syllable one and pressed something wrong when closing, and it broke completely new, never used! Oh, and I rode around the city from the workshop to the workshop, until I found one in which the master was very curious, it was he who agreed to take my umbrella for the sake of sports interest, with the proviso that it certainly does not promise a positive outcome of the case, i.e. to. the system is new, I have not yet seen such. Then I was lucky. And now these umbrellas are easily accepted by all workshops.


I love my Walter, but I want a more advanced luxury! Today there is an opportunity to go to the store and finally compare the sieves. I will write about the results later. I wish you a successful dryer choice!

Oh, yes, there is already such a discussion going on while I was writing my post with distractions.




So, yesterday I visited the store with my sieve from Walter-1000 (simple sieve) and compared it with the sieve from Walter-1000 lux (luxury sieve). Here's what I found out:
the diameter of the sieves is exactly the same, not a millimeter difference! All chambers of the air flow - both side and central - coincide completely vertically, but !!! if you put the luxury sieve on a simple sieve, there will be a gap of about 2 mm between the sieves along the entire outer circumference,which will give a constant loss of temperature on the tiers, and when a luxury sieve is applied to a simple sieve, this gap disappears and there will be no hot air leakage. No adapters, as I wrote above Igrig , not required.
The conclusion is as follows: for a stable and tight combination of sieves of different modifications, it is necessary to lay first (down) the lux of the sieves, and then (up) - simple sieves. I draw your attention to the fact that it was not possible to try on a luxury sieve on the base of the Volter-1000 (motor unit). If I can check this, I will definitely add information to the topic.

Igrig
Quote: Ivanovna5
The conclusion is as follows: for a stable and tight combination of sieves of different modifications, it is necessary to lay first (down) the lux of the sieves, and then (up) - simple sieves. I draw your attention to the fact that it was not possible to try on a luxury sieve on the base of the Volter-1000 (motor unit). If I can check this, I will definitely add information to the topic.
Well, until the question is cleared up. It is necessary "lay first (down) luxury sieves, and then (up) - simple sieves."And the engine block is, after all, sharpened for NOT LUX, that is, most likely the bottom of the NOT Lux sieve fits exactly with the engine compartment, that is, the top of the engine compartment is the same as that of the top of the NOT Lux sieve, which means that there should be a gap when docking with Lux !! I don't care anymore, now everything is Luxurious, but it's very interesting to learn the truth out of simple curiosity.
Only a natural experiment will establish the ultimate truth!
To be honest, it's still very confusing to keep track of a strict sequence. God forbid to mix it up, or else suddenly seal this gap with tape or a rag. There will be so many options!
Ivanovna5
Quote: Igrig
God forbid to mix it up, or else suddenly seal this gap with tape or a rag. There will be so many options!
Igor, do not carry nonsense! Nothing bad will happen if you mix up the sieves. Swapping them is not difficult at all.
In addition, any more or less thinking person will immediately put some mark on the sieves so that there is no confusion. And in order to seal it with tape or a rag, you need at least ...
Igrig
Quote: Ivanovna5
Nothing bad will happen if you mix up the sieves. Swapping them is not difficult at all.
Of course, I'm exaggerating very much, but if you remember the Chernobyl tragedy happened because of a trifle - there was no protection from a fool! The dryer is not a nuclear reactor, but EVERYONE, without exception, wants perfection, well, or at least trouble-free. Name at least one person who would sincerely and honestly say: "I love to overcome difficulties!"
In your case, due to the fact that you have not taken the engine compartment with you, you will have to visit the store again. It seems to be a trifle ... It seems to be not difficult ... but at least an hour of time will have to be spent on another trip. But what could be more valuable than the time we have been given to waste on nonsense?
I, too, ran into a little thing - I did not immediately buy an extra. sieve, that's where the headache arose!
Ivanovna5
Igrig, I made a comparison of sieves for people who did not have time to buy additional tiers for a simple Walter, but they need them now. And she prudently wrote that she did not try on the motor block. Simply, I could not do it, because my motor is being repaired.
Quote: Igrig
to waste on nonsense

I do not consider it nonsense to help in resolving an important issue for someone.
whirl-wind
Dear forum users, good afternoon! A week ago I bought a 1000 Lux Walter dryer (LUX - based on the certificate of acceptance and sale and the warranty card). The date of manufacture of the dryer is April 2017. The temperature range is specified from 30 to 70. The temperature indicator (lamp) lights up, starting from a temperature of 45 degrees. Please share if there was such a situation. I'm worried about whether the air actually heats up if the temperature is set less than 45 degrees.Is this a norm or a reason to contact repair (replacement)? Instead of the declared 3-4 hours for drying greens at a set temperature of 40 degrees, my dryer worked for a day.
Ivanovna5
Quote: whirl-wind
I'm worried about whether the air actually heats up if the temperature is set less than 45 degrees. Is this a norm or a reason to contact repair (replacement)?

whirl-wind, Olga, whether heating is occurring can be determined tactilely by placing your palm over the opening for the air flow. You will feel, warm or cold jet and draw the appropriate conclusions.
$ vetLana
whirl-wind, I measured the temperature with a temperature probe. You need to know what the exact temperature is in the dryer. IMHO
asus-vifo
How many nerves and irritations on this topic. Of all the pages, only a couple will be typed on the case.
Dear forum users and happy owners of Voltaire's dryer. Educate on specific, and in my opinion, important characteristics of the dryer.
1. Has anyone measured the energy consumption of the dryer at different temperature conditions. How much does it consume, for example, per day when working with a temperature of 60-70 degrees C?
2. Is the noise of the dryer caused only by the noise of the fan motor or also by the passage of air through the channels in the sieves? If all the tiers remove the noise less or the same as with the installed sieve tiers? I have a Khrushchev with thin walls. If I turn it on in the kitchen at night, can I sleep in the next room?
3. Does anyone have any comments on which foods can be dried at the same time? For example, he collected mushrooms, strawberries and medicinal herbs in the forest. Grass, with the same mode for all products, dries in the dryer, for example, 2 hours, mushrooms - 4 hours, strawberries - 6 hours. How to dry? Separately, or remove the grates with a certain product when it is dry, and leave the other grates and dry until they are completely ready?
4. Has anyone heard if the company is going to sell dryers with a built-in timer? You must admit that it is convenient while you are at work or somewhere else, so that she turns off herself and does not dry out the food.
5. Is there an electrical diagram in the documents for the dryer?
6. Are there any recommendations on how to dry in the operating instructions?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
$ vetLana
Ivanovna5, Anya, the avatar is wonderful!
Emerald
asus-vifo, you can dry different products together; sieves should be at least five (remove the food if it is dry, and return the sieves); schemes, in my opinion no ;, there are recommendations
Irgata
Quote: asus-vifo
Educate on specific, and in my opinion, important characteristics of the dryer.
1. Not a huge figure, although the electricity bill increases - and I have 3-5 dryers working at the same time for 2 months in the fall (2 from Rotor, 2 Dry Hoves M for 5 and 8 trays, Travola drying cabinet).
2. In one room with a dryer, of course, it's not ice, in another room they rustle, they don't interfere.
3. Walter is cured, so smells should not mix.
The trays can be easily removed - what is the first dry, then remove, apply the other.
Judging by the edged dry winds M, the upper trays dry out a little faster.
4. The timer is good, Travola pleased me, but I don't leave any dryer at home alone for more than a couple of hours. As, however, and any other electrical appliance.

and take a look at this page https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=164.0 everything is there
$ vetLana
Quote: Irsha
Judging by the edged dry winds M, the upper trays dry out a little faster.
In Walter, no. Eight, I think, dry the same, and higher - longer.
Ivanovna5
asus-vifo, good day!
Regarding irritability and nerves in this topic, I completely agree with you. And I hope that everyone who is interested in the Walter 1000 dryer understands that this is due to the fact that it really made a lot of competition with the previously well-advertised and well-established Isidri dryer, the only one on the market of such a construction. Of course, it's not fair that Volter's sellers directly compare her with Isidri, as if "clinging" to the well-deserved glory of a famous brand - this is the cost of the trade engine - advertising. But there is a dryer, and we, consumers, have the right and the opportunity to choose.
I will not be able to answer specifically all your questions, but I will try.
1. Accurate monitoring of the consumption of e-mail. did not lead to energy, but I can say that during the harvesting season I did not notice a big difference in the amounts of payments.
2. The noise of the dryer is caused by the fan.Whether you can sleep with the dryer turned on depends only on your personal noise perception. We (my husband and I) sleep even in the same room with a working dryer, but sometimes (due to our well-being) it interferes.
3. You can dry different products on different trays, odors do not mix, but the degree of drying directly depends on the time. if you are not afraid of an overdried product, then you can not remove the dried raw material until the other, not yet ready, is dry, but you can remove both dried and raw, if you honestly did not understand the essence of the question at all.
4. This question can be asked to the manufacturer. For me, this is not relevant, all my electrical appliances work only in my presence or in the presence of my husband (note, we both work all day).
5. Email there is a diagram in the instruction manual.
6. There are recommendations for the drying time, but they are very relative, since the result depends on several factors, such as: the initial moisture content of the raw material, the size of the pieces or the whole fruit / berry / vegetable, the number of layers laid out on the sieve, and finally, on the moisture content and ambient temperature. I always focus only on the state of the final product. If the degree of drying suits me in terms of taste and tactile sensations, I remove it, something seemed wrong, I continue to dry.
I hope I could somehow help you, I wish you good luck!





$ vetLana, thanks, but I don't see any changes

I tried to insert a photo from the MK. What do I need to do to make the new ava appear for me too?
Hurrah! Happened for the tenth time of entry-exit

asus-vifo
Thank you all very much for your answers. Received more or less complete information.
Igrig
Quote: whirl-wind
starting at a temperature of 45 degrees. Please share if there was such a situation. I'm worried about whether the air actually heats up if the temperature is set less than 45 degrees.
Olga! Was intrigued by your message. Since I also have a new Walter dryer.
Two days ago, they dried fragrant grass in the country. The dryer was turned on with fear. The result is very similar to yours.
The light comes on from a temperature of 40 degrees. I put the thermometer on the lower tray, it showed a temperature of 32 degrees, on the upper tray it also showed 32 degrees.
Summary: our Russian manufacturers, as always, wanted the best, but it turns out as always. The principle of operation was ripped off from Isidri, and the rest was spit on. That is, "tra-la-la" about a new, improved, more accurate capillary thermostat, therefore it is called "Lux", and the implementation of the idea is a hogwash. That is, the scale on the front panel is graduated as God will put it on his soul. Therefore, I can only recommend that you run the dryer at different theoretical readings on the scale applied, and then measure the real values. And after that, the real indicators are plotted on this scale. There is no other way out.
Unfortunately, I did not have the opportunity to check compliance with all temperatures on the scale, but this is in the plans.
And another pebble in the garden of producers. There are black spots on the top cover and on the sides of the grilles, which directly speaks of poor technological discipline in production, or dirty raw materials, or non-observance of plastic molding regimes (this is what I say as a specialist). and on the top cover on this dark spot they pasted a sticker commemorating the remarkable properties of the dryer.
In principle, you have every right to contact a workshop so that they can adjust the temperature for you in accordance with the marked scale. So it's up to you.
Anastasenok
Probably you shouldn't expect any super abilities from AvtoVAZ? You really want a lot from her at a more than modest price
Irgata
Measure t ten. is he heats up to the set t.

The heated air is then dispersed, and very quickly - the centrifugal force acts.

The product being dried takes up heat.

Therefore, the outlet air cannot be the same t as indicated. It has to cool down, this is physics.

All dryers output less t, not just your poor thing, Walter missed.

The design of the three-shaped trays collects the heated air well into the * pipe * of the dryer.

My dry winds M also with edged-like trays, and the air flow is distributed differently than in dryers from ROTOR and Travola, whose trays are simple in design - a mesh with sides.

Dry winds M much cheaper Izedri = our Russian ones, the plastic is different (I don’t know if it is good or bad, dryers serve, mmm, they are great), there is no regulator of t and time, just on and off. And that's enough.

If I need to dry the grass by 30 * - so why drive the electric unit, it will dry out in a draft, it is warm in summer.

I advised my friend to visit this topic, she wanted to buy Volter 1000. I got sick. Too many negative reviews. She bought two dry winds M-8 and dries without problems - what kind of t, what kind of plastic is there: - Does the dryer heat? Does the air drive? Is the product drying out? And great.
Drying time is very dependent on the intended you product - herbs, berries, fruits, meat, all have different moisture, density, sweetness, fat content.
There is no fixed time for dryers. The instructions show the approximate time.
Quote: Anastasenok
Probably you shouldn't expect any super abilities from AvtoVAZ?
the trays that Izedri, Sukhoveev M, Voltera1000 have - are the same in design.
Anastasenok
Irsha, to be honest, having Romelbacher, I never found fault with him with a magnifying glass. It dries deliciously, the meat is dried, it makes marshmallows. It just seems to me that there was a wave of buzzing and dissatisfied people, and now everyone, bypassing common sense, began to look for every little thing. Up to lifelong provision of trays for a very budget line of units. Then maybe you need to look at the equipment of the Thermomix price category? To both the feast and the world? The only topic where it's not fashionable to spy on recipes, but endless discontent. Moreover, they are justified once or twice.
Irgata
Quote: Anastasenok
The only topic where it's not fashionable to spy on recipes, but endless discontent. Moreover, they are justified once or twice.
exactly

waited for Izedri 3 times cheaper

how much fun in Travolka's theme
and thoroughly in any other drying topic
Anastasenok
Irsha, about that and speech .. you look at other Temki on dryers, where new answers have appeared. There are recipes, tips, photos. And then people were deceived. And as this wave has gone, everything will not calm down. Admin wrote about Isidri. What prevented people from having both baking sheets and marshmallow sheets in constant access. Yes .. the price
Admin
Quote: Anastasenok
Admin wrote about Isidri

Yes, I wrote

Yes, a lot depends on the material component, the ability to acquire ...
Someone does not have the opportunity, someone thinks and so it will do, there is nothing to spend and so on ...

But, judging by the fact that my Isidri served me for more than 20 years without any crawling into her insides and playing with the temperature measurement ... then the dryer paid for itself by all 1000% with interest And only because of this I now have a new Isidri, and the pallets came from the old dryer

This topic is not about Isidri, let's talk here only about Voltaire
Paul I
Quote: Anastasenok
The only topic where it's not fashionable to spy on recipes, but endless discontent. Moreover, they are justified once or twice.
I agree.
Moreover, you get the impression that this "plastics specialist" works as a salesman for Isidri. And his task is to discredit the competitor in every possible way, which he does.
Anastasenok
Ladies and gentlemen . Let's share recipes and photos
olaola1
I do not understand what kind of tragedy - trays of different shades. I have both the usual trays and "deluxe". Well, they differ slightly in color, almost imperceptible to the eye. So what? Does this make the dryer work worse? They are joined with a small crack, about half a millimeter. Not a tragedy either. I put down "luxury" on top of simple ones, and that's all - no gaps. I marked the deluxe trays with nail polish, the trays cannot be confused. In general, a good dryer, I am very pleased with it.
Igrig
Good afternoon!
Since I wrote a lot of comments on Walter, I want to clearly state my position.

I THINK THE WOLTER IS THE BEST DOMESTIC DRYER. WITHOUT OPTIONS.

But...
one.Is it normal that a manufacturer has stopped producing components for the model that it has stopped producing? If you think correctly, then do not read my message further. By the way, according to the law, equipment manufacturers (I honestly admit if the dryer is included in this list) are obliged to produce spare parts for another 10 years! Is this unreasonable and bad? This is at least good. It's my personal opinion.

2.
Quote: Anastasenok
Probably you shouldn't expect any super abilities from AvtoVAZ? You really want a lot from her at a more than modest price
What are superpowers? Is the synchrophasotron in the dryer? A primitively simple thing! But why in the 90s I bought a VAZ "nine" and immediately gave it to the "broach" for extra. fee ??? Who does not know - broaching is the tightening of bolts, bolts, clamps, so that a new car from the factory does not fall apart right away. Hee-hee, it didn't help much! And now I have to re-graduate the entire scale, having previously spent time on measurements.

3.
Quote: Irsha
no t and time regulator, just on and off. And that's enough.
Somehow you question the need to set the drying temperature, directly encroach on the authorities, because Admin has written so much about the fact that for different products, for one reason or another, different temperatures are needed! And what, all her labors in vain? But I believed her so much, it was not for nothing that the dryer worked for her for 20 years, this is an invaluable experience! I and others are sincerely grateful to her!
Here I disagree with you that the temperature is not important!

4.
Quote: Anastasenok
but endless discontent. Moreover, they are justified once or twice.
Tell me, please, my claim, expressed earlier, that Voltera had practically no full-fledged service in Russia before this year, is this also normal? This is also not justified ??

5.
Quote: Irsha
Measure t ten. It heats up to the set t.
Can I correct you a little? In our dryer, there is not a heating element, but a simple spiral that is heated and blown with air. Previously, users posted photos here. It is theoretically possible to measure the temperature, but for this it is necessary to disassemble the dryer and measure it with a non-contact thermometer. I'm afraid to guess, but the temperature of the hot coil will be several Hundreds of degrees! The dryer works on the principle of an iron, the heating element is heated to a high temperature always the same the heating coil temperature is not regulated !!! Then the heating element turns off, etc., etc. in a circle. Depending on the proportion of operating time and shutdown time, the required average temperature is reached.
6. Is it unreasonable to make a claim that heating starts only from 40 degrees and even from 45 for others. Is it normal that a person sets the heating to 40 degrees in full confidence that he is right, but gets 32 degrees? Say: "Nonsense!" I would like to look at the food in the refrigerator (where the temperature is set in degrees), when you set the temperature to 4 degrees, and it will give out 12 degrees!

7. Well, now about the most important thing in our life - finances! I, unfortunately, fortunately, not the daughter of a billionaire, and not even a son ... And when I give my hard-earned 5,000 rubles for the dryer (for a minute, this not very budget compared to ordinary dryers for 2-3 thousand rubles), I do not tell the manufacturer (that is, through the seller): "Dear sirs, do not pay that on the bill Yaroslav the Wise for some reason stands without a hat and on the temple instead of the 15 domes , only 10. But, I swear by my mom, the money is very good and of high quality, I painted it myself this morning, I tried. You see, 1000 rubles are written, so believe me, I have never deceived you! " Do you think this trick will work? Aaaaa? That's the same ... You yourself understand what you would answer me.
8. Dear Paul I (it's good that not the second, although the first was already there once). Once I corrected you about your incorrect judgment about the properties of plastics. Sorry, Forced correct you again: I have a Volter dryer 1000 Lux. She is now at the dacha.If you are satisfied, I can now post here a scan of my passport and a receipt with the invoice to confirm that I bought Walter. There has never been any Isidri and now it is not! Are you ready to take my word for it? After all, I have never deceived you!

And finally. Dryer good, no wonder I took it again (but already Lux) and also 7 additional. gratings ...
Anastasenok
Igrig, woe from wit ... Everything is according to the classics.
Igrig
Quote: Anastasenok
Igrig, woe from wit ... Everything is according to the classics.
I completely and absolutely agree, but I don't understand who this refers to? Maybe I'm not very smart?
Paul I
Quote: Igrig
I completely and absolutely agree, but I don't understand who this refers to? Maybe I'm not very smart?
On the contrary, too much. This is the grief ...
It means that instead of just using a good device, to say thank you that it is available at an affordable price and to forgive the domestic manufacturer for everything else, you are engaged in unpromising digging in trifles that a normal housewife, in principle, is not interested in.
He joked about Isidri, if that.
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By the way, according to the law, equipment manufacturers (I honestly admit if the dryer is included in this list) are obliged to produce spare parts for another 10 years!
You tell any major manufacturer to laugh.
Apple, for example, has nothing for 2011 cars.
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So now I have to re-graduate the entire scale, having previously spent time on measurements
To begin with, it is worth finding out at what point the measurements were made.
Well, then, do you need it? Accuracy is not so important here. And most housewives do not look at the temperature at all.
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After all, Admin has written so much about the fact that different products need different temperatures for one reason or another!
It is so, but it should not be absolutized. Not accurate to the degree.
Quote: Igrig
I would like to look at the food in the refrigerator (where the temperature is set in degrees), when you set the temperature to 4 degrees, and it will give out 12 degrees!
The comparison is not correct.
Igrig
Quote: Paul I
are engaged in hopeless digging in the little things that normal the hostess, in principle, is not interested.
As Bronevoy said in the "Formula of Love": "Note, it was not I who suggested this!"
I didn’t start about additional sieves.
Not me about the lack of service either.
About the devil knows how the thermostat works - also not me.
So tell those post authors who started asking questions that they abnormal... and then let's see their reaction.

I just went over the quality of the plastic a little - yes.
Kstaaaaaati! Didn't you have any complaints about plastic: "I have only one complaint about Sukhovey - the quality of the plastic. Over time, geometry disappeared and the pallets began to fail. They cannot be set exactly.
08.09.2016"
Just think, the main thing is that it dries, and the rest does not care about everything, do not find fault! You see, when it touches you, you are not expressing something slavish humility!
And in general, you would somehow decide, then you recommend me to put on rags and put up with it, then boast about your meticulousness to shortcomings and about your ability to get manufacturers ...
If religion does not allow you to stand on one side of the barricades, maybe you better take off the cross (not mine (C)) ...

You yourself wrote, without even getting a dryer: "I have not yet received the drying itself, but I believe there is something to improve and where to grow. I'm just meticulous in terms of the operation of technology and try to improve the performance of devices and eliminate obvious shortcomings. For this reason, I go out to manufacturers and get them with my suggestions for improvement and improvement. 09.09.2016.
So everyone else is in the role of the bull, and you are in the role of Jupiter? (what is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to bull).

About the temperature difference. Do not distort, please, I did not write about the accuracy to the degree. I have not written this anywhere, I don’t understand why you need to invent? One gets the impression that you read my message so inattentively that you did not see that the temperature difference 8 deg.
Well, let me repeat, you tell Admin that you don't care about the temperature at all, suddenly you have such weighty arguments that even I will believe you, and not her with her many years of experience ...
Admin
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