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It's good that everything ended well
olaola1
Quote: mish
in the model in general
It gives me exactly 60 grams, and at all levels. I have been using it for the second year. I am very satisfied. Apparently you were out of luck with a specific instance ... and with the seller.
Olka D
: nea: I have never checked the temperature, it dries perfectly, I fully paid for myself, if I could allocate 15,000 without prejudice to the budget - I would buy Isidri, I really like it, but I am very glad that an analogue turned up that met my requests, and saving money and waiting for DR to buy seasonal equipment is, sorry, ridiculous. From my friend Isidri, she bought it a few years ago and is very happy with it, I bought nets and trays for pastille for her, but she dries very rarely, and in a few months I have my own "tail and mane."
You will also look for flaws in Isidri.
In the month of May, I was asked about an inexpensive dryer - I advised my Walter, but it also turned out to be expensive - they bought a Rotor Diva for 2300 - and they are happy - it dries normally.


Added Sunday 07 Aug 2016 07:39 PM

And Voltaire doesn't have 75 grams, where are these numbers? there is cold (it's just a fan), 40 and 60 gr.
mish
Olka D, it seems to me that you are offended by the review of my adventure, or does it just seem? I didn’t say that Voltera was bad, just, as I rightly noted in the post above olaola1, I was not lucky with the copy and the seller.
Quote: Olka D
but saving money and waiting for DR to buy seasonal equipment is, sorry, ridiculous
Do not judge what you don’t know: I have two Summer Residents-4, and I, as you have deigned to say, have been using them for nine years now, "in the tail and in the mane," so that I will somehow manage to do it on my own two assistants, and I looked closely at Walter, because for the high-quality preparation of certain products, I need a wind-blower dryer with clear temperature parameters. Summer resident-4 perfectly dries with buckets, disinfects the product, since it is an infrared dryer, but unfortunately does not set the temperature to a degree (there are cases when it is required) and he does not have a fan, alas, and sometimes he is very needed. As for the Rotor-Diva, I know about the presence of this on sale, since I gave this to my mother, but for my needs this is not enough - I don't even see the point in discussing: these are dryers of different "weight categories", I mean the volume of drying.

Quote: Olka D
And Voltaire doesn't have 75 grams, where are these numbers? there is cold (it's just a fan), 40 and 60 gr.
This is information from the official site. Study the materiel if you don't believe it. Here is a quote from the page: "Since July 2016, the household electric dryer ESB" Voltera-1000 "has been produced with a capillary thermostat, which allows, instead of two set temperature regimes 40'C and 60'C in the working area, to regulate the temperature from 30'C to 75'C. In addition, in the working area of ​​the heating element, an additional thermostat is installed, which increases the fire safety of this product.
🔗"
Olka D
No, I was absolutely not offended, and I did not try to offend you. I am very glad. that you have such a tremendous experience in dryers, I bought my first and only dryer, I chose for about a month, but I was probably lucky or I was not so scrupulous about studying those. opportunities. I had enough advice on the forum and a specific topic.
And I bought the dryer in the early spring of 2016 and, sorry, I’m not talking about "progress". When I bought, the seller said that the previous series was unsuccessful, a lot of defects, apparently you were also out of luck, they decided to "modernize" unsuccessfully.
And so, if I said something rude - sorry, although there is no aggression on my part.
mish
Olka Dthat you, no offense - just different opinions! Let all of us all different dryers serve faithfully and, most importantly, without failures.
Radomir84
Quote: Admin
Thank you so much for your support - it helped a lot! Otherwise, there would be no patience for such communication with the store.
To your health))) in general, of course, he himself is shocked by communicating with the Manufacturer Volter. In any normal Internet (and non-Internet) stores, they will not only apologize, replace (send it, as in my case), but also offer a gift or a discount on the product.
in your case, the seller (owner) - had to take a normal thermometer and measure the temperature with you (it comes out literally within 1 minute). And explain what you are doing wrong, if he thinks that you used the dryer incorrectly. And rudeness will not give him a head start, especially in our time of crisis).
Regarding the quality of the Volters in general - well, I personally assumed that it would correspond to the money spent. (it's like viburnum and suzuki)). both go.)
By the way, on the measurements of the Isidri sellers (they also measured the quality of the dried products on Isidri and Volter) - on their thermometer, the temperature was 10 degrees higher than that stated in the passport (for Voltera). They did not like the plastic (Volter is not luxurious). and dried fruits in the isidri - left a pleasant aftertaste () and the volter had just dried out))


Added Monday 08 Aug 2016 10:03 AM

By the way, I have a luxury Walter model with a conventional thermostat. (40 and 60). capillary shoved literally a month after purchase).
By the way, at the first start-up, the fan clung to something. but then got used to it)
olaola1
Quote: Radomir84
and dried fruits in the isidri - left a pleasant aftertaste () and the volter had just dried out))
I don't even know how to react to this. My Voltera works great, dries great. And the taste, in my opinion, depends on the raw material. Take products that are obviously not tasty, and the result will not please. Fruits and vegetables bought in the store are not known how they were grown and how they were stored, and freshly picked and of high quality can also be compared with viburnum and suzuki. For comparison, try wilting Turkish tomatoes and your Kuban tomatoes in the same tray, and, as they say, feel the difference. I am now drying seasonal fruits at an accelerated pace, ours are southern (I live in the south). They are very tasty, with a "pleasant aftertaste".
sveta-Lana
Quote: olaola1
Walter works great, dries great. And the taste, in my opinion, depends on the raw material.
Quote: olaola1
Fruits and vegetables bought in the store are not known how they were grown and how they were stored, and freshly picked and of high quality can also be compared with viburnum and suzuki.
Quote: olaola1
seasonal fruits, our southern (I live in the south). They are very tasty, with a "pleasant aftertaste"
I fully agree with what was said
Lud-Mil @
Quote: Olka D
I have never checked the temperature, it dries perfectly,
Likewise. The quality of drying suits me perfectly, and how many degrees there are at the same time - it makes no difference to me, the main thing is that it dries quickly and evenly.
Quote: Olka D
bought Rotor Diva for 2300 - and are satisfied - it dries normally
I had one like this, I already wrote, gave it to my mother, she is happy, I also liked it, it dries perfectly, unlike Voltera, you only need to swap the trays, but there are advantages.
It seems to me that very few consumers care about temperature accuracy, the main thing is that the dryer dries well, and most of them do an excellent job with this task.
Radomir84
Olya, Sveta, Mila)) lovely girls) please read carefully !!! what I wrote !!!
I quote:


Added on Monday, 08 Aug 2016 5:20 PM

Quote: olaola1
By the way, on the measurements of the Isidri sellers (they also measured the quality of the dried products on Isidri and Volter) - on their thermometer, the temperature was 10 degrees higher than that stated in the passport (for Voltera). They did not like the plastic (Volter is not luxurious). and dried fruits in the isidri - left a pleasant aftertaste () and the volter had just dried out))

Brief summary:

In June 2015 we bought this "new dryer" for testing.

We carried out a drying cycle simultaneously on two dryers: ULTRA FD 1000 and "new dryer".

Dried: bananas, banana peels, pears, nectarines, apples.

We filled 10 pallets. The "new dryer" has two fixed modes - 40 ° С and 60 ° С. Chose 60 ° for both dryers. (See photos, videos and read the instruction manual).

Our observations:

1. The appearance of the "new dryer" after Ezidri is not impressive, to put it mildly.

About the quality of plastic. It is porous and, apparently, after some time of operation

will be poorly washed.

Moreover, we doubt very much that there is no thickener in the plastic of this dryer.

Bisphenol A, which makes products harmful to humans after contact with this plastic.

2. Pallet height 40mm (Ezidri 30mm), pallet weight 0.616 kg (Ezidri 0.292 kg).

3. Thermal fuses: for the "new dryer" 169 ° C (for Ezidri 94 ° C).

It is clear that until the insert melts and the voltage supply to the heater coil is cut off, everything around will melt and char, except for the metal parts.

4. On the bottom of the cover of the "new dryer" there is a signature: "PATENTED". It would be desirable to find out the patent number - we did not succeed.

5. Taste qualities of dried fruits:

When we sample the dried fruit as a result of the test, we noticed:

Ezidri has a long, pleasant aftertaste.

On the "new dryer" the aftertaste is minimal.

Now about the work of the "new dryer":

1. In the video, complete with five pallets in the switch position for both dryers - 60 ° С, the actual temperature at the outlet: more than 69 ° С for the "new dryer" (for Ezidri 59.8 ° С)

2. At the "new dryer" at 40 ° C, the actual temperature is about 47 ° C.
Feeding cycles (at 60 ° C):

from Ezidri:

-The spiral heats up 3.53 sec

-Spiral cools down 5.9 sec
at the "new dryer":

-The spiral heats up for 14 seconds

-Spiral cools down 15 sec
We look at item 1.1 of the operating manual for the "new dryer" ...
The "new dryer" has a temperature range of about 47 ° C (at 40 ° C), up to 69 ° C (at 60 ° C)

(with five pallets loaded).

At such temperatures, it makes no sense to talk about the benefits of dried products: Enzymes die at temperatures above 40 ° C ...

(All enzymes can be stored on Ezidri, as temperature conditions and actual temperature allow it)
One last thing: take a moment to study section # 4. Safety requirements:

Not a safe device to say the least ...



Added Monday, 08 Aug 2016 5:23 PM

SUMMARY OF THOSE WHO TESTED !!!!!! NOT MINE!!!! (I can't insert links. I would share it this way)


Added Monday, 08 Aug 2016 5:25 PM

By the way, I am completely satisfied with the dryer. especially for the money that was spent on it. on Yandex, the market of 5 stars put 4, due to the relationship of the manufacturer's representative.


Added Monday, 08 Aug 2016 5:26 PM

For me (volter lux) the spiral heats up for 10 seconds. cools down for 9 sec.
mish
Mila,
Quote: Lud-Mil @
It seems to me that very few consumers care about temperature accuracy, the main thing is that the dryer dries well, and most of them do an excellent job with this task.
It is difficult to argue with the last statement, but it was only about the fact that if a person decides to buy something, then for his money he justly wants to get everything that is promised, in full, and not "bastard and ready." After all, you won't take moldy sausage in the store on the grounds that it is also a sausage, it costs the same, and someone, after washing it, can eat it, especially if there are other fresh sausages nearby. The fact of the matter is that we all want quality and at the same time as cheaply as possible, but, unfortunately, sometimes for various reasons we fly over.
And I agree with Radomir: it is useless to compare Kalina and Suzuki only on the basis of the fact that both drive.
Lud-Mil @
mish, I'm sorry, but your comparisons and analogies are not entirely correct. A dryer is a household appliance, the purpose of which is drying fruits, vegetables, etc. My dryer copes well with its functions, that is, it dries the product efficiently and quickly enough, that is.It performs its tasks, and I, like most consumers, do not need any high-precision temperature maintenance from such a device, that's why I say that it suits me and I don't care what the temperature is there. What does moldy sausage have to do with it, I don't understand, like everyone eats garbage and only you know a lot about food?
As for the aftertastes (although I did not touch on this issue in my previous post, but since Radomir he also turned to me), I want to say that all the organoleptic characteristics are quite subjective and are hardly amenable to accurate measurements, as they say, one loves a watermelon, and the other a pork cartilage.
At this point, I consider the discussion on this topic complete.
Radomir84
damn) I wrote - that with my dryer, both in taste and in the quality of drying and in other parameters, I am SATISFIED !!!)
mish
Lud-Mil @, let me note that it was you who continued the discussion. If you don't think the comparisons are correct, it's up to you. Are you satisfied with everything? -Why are you proving something? Why are you clung to the temperature then, if you don't care? I care, and that's why I shared my thoughts on this topic and explained that for my money I want to receive a full-fledged product, not a marriage (is there something wrong here?). Do you think the discussion is over? Was there any point in starting it from your side? Sorry, but sharpness for sharpness ...
Admin
Girls Boys - BREAK! DO NOT ARRIVE! WORLD-FRIENDSHIP!
Lud-Mil @
Quote: mish
Are you satisfied with everything? -Why are you proving something? Why are you clung to the temperature then, if you don't care?
Well, actually, I did not prove anything, but expressed my opinion (it seemed to me that everyone here can speak out, was I wrong?), And in this statement I did not even address you, but a completely different forum member ...
mish
Quote: Admin

Girls Boys - BREAK! DO NOT ARRIVE! WORLD-FRIENDSHIP!
You are right, there is nothing to quarrel about, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Probably, I took this whole topic very close to my heart due to the fact that it happened so badly with the purchase. It's time to shake yourself up and get ready for new pleasant purchases.
didi2868
Hello girls and boys! I understand that there are no prophets in my fatherland, too, I prefer imported and reliable equipment, but I want to stand up for Walter. It is clear that they ripped off Isidrai and this is not good, but nevertheless, the price-quality ratio is captivating. I bought the dryer in June, deliberately from the manufacturer's website, thanks to Svetlana (sveta-Lana), thanks to her again. The manager called me back, patiently and with participation answered all my questions, helped me choose an adequate transport. company to my city. I received everything and use it with pleasure. I bought a suite for Walter, the plastic is very decent, there is no foreign smell, the assembly is neat, it copes with the tasks (drying, drying) within the terms stated by the manufacturer, so I didn't play with the thermometer, but why not check .. I'll report later.
Irgata
Quote: didi2868
It is clear that they ripped off Isidrai and it is not good
Marina, why is it bad? the market is saturated with analogs - and this is great, there is no monopoly, the price range is great, it’s good for us, which is what you said = good dryer
Radomir84
Quote: Irsha
I bought the dryer in June, deliberately from the manufacturer's website, thanks to Svetlana (sveta-Lana), thanks to her again. The manager called me back, patiently and with participation answered all my questions, helped me choose an adequate transport. company to my city. I received everything and use it with pleasure.
and a man called me back and talked. then I talked to another manager. further only correspondence via email. and the rest of the time I called myself (because letters are answered in 3-4 days.). long distance to CITY. and in the end with the manager - Anna Gorkova. said about 400 rubles. The managers themselves have an absolutely disregarding attitude. and what, the season, there are many buyers. honestly - no longer think that someone will send me the missing pallets. and money with nerves
already spent more than they are worth.
didi2868

Quote: Irsha
why is that bad?
Ira, I mean that there is no respect for someone else's intellectual property, and we buy, therefore we encourage and participate. But that's right, the lyrics ..


Added Wednesday 10 Aug 2016 02:08 AM

Radomir, I very much sympathize with you, it is unpleasant, but do not stop, demand yours. Do not call yourself, let them call back, write letters to this manager:

It was with Anna Gorkova (the manager of the wholesale department) that I communicated, but they slow down for a simple reason, they work with wholesalers, they do not have an online store as such, this is a factory, therefore the form of payment is not usual and there is no proper service. They collect orders for a week or longer, then they are taken from this Volzhsky village to Volgograd, for transfer to a transport company, that is, there is nothing to talk about efficiency at all. When ordering, I was guided by the only one to directly resolve problems with this wonderful technique, but so far everything is plowing. Good luck, let everything be resolved as quickly as possible.
Irgata
Quote: didi2868
no respect for someone else's intellectual property
They don't write Ezidri on their products, and no one forbids doing the same, all equipment and everything on Earth in general are analogs, born and produced, otherwise everything would have stood up and there would be no progress

Ezidri, honor and praise to them, gave direction, and as Tanya-Admin correctly writes, they themselves did not die, how many years on the market, the basis

and God forbid that similar devices, cheaper, were on sale, for different purchasing abilities

of course the service is not good
good luck to you, Radomir
sveta-Lana
comrades, share what you wash the marshmallow trays.
I faced such a problem, made sun-dried tomatoes and dry adjika on two trays and they dyed with me, but this is half the trouble, the smell of spices remained
soap with baking soda, still there was a slight smell, today I make apple marshmallow, I poured three unused trays, and the fourth with a smell, now I'm waiting for what happens
somehow I don't want to get apple marshmallow with a taste / smell of pepper and garlic
Irgata
Quote: sveta-Lana
and garlic
that's him very hard remove, depends on the porosity of the plastic

try: make a thick solution of laundry soap, not hot, soak the odorous trays in it, for a few hours

if the soap does not remove the garlic odor =

mustard solution, acid - citric, vinegar = this is specifically from garlic
sveta-Lana
Irina, thanks a lot, I'll try now
vit-us
Good day!
I would like to answer the test of Isidri sellers with my express test Voltaire-1000 LUX.
On the weekend, out of greed, we gathered so many mushrooms that we had to decide what to do with them. The freezer was already full, porcini mushrooms are not very suitable for pickling, so there was only one option left - to dry. I was convinced from my own experience that mushrooms are disgusting to dry in the oven: they often dry out to death and there is practically no aroma left. I decided to urgently choose a dryer. Since in the winter I had to choose a dryer my mother-in-law, I was already "in the subject." I stopped at BELOMO and VOLTERA. It turned out that "Voltera" are now produced only in the "Lux" package and their price is higher than usual, but they were bribed by the temperature control in a wide range and some kind of service in Moscow. At home, before loading the mushrooms, I conducted a little testing on the temperature regime, so that if anything, I could immediately change it.
So, Voltaire-1000 Lux:
1. I have not seen a live "Isidri", but "Voltaire" is assembled on 5 of high-quality dense glossy plastic without any pores on the surface.
2. Internals such as fan, thermal fuse, thermostat and electrical quality. I did not check connections due to loss of warranty.
3. Temperature conditions were measured with an electronic thermometer-thermocouple with an accuracy of ten decimal places.
Installed 30C - readings 28C; 35C - 33C, 40C - 38C, 75C - 69C. Does not stretch at high temperatures.
Measurements were carried out on all trays without loading products. Temperatures on trays 1, 3 and 5 are identical.
Hysteresis of operation at 40C (temperature on and off the heater): 33C - on, 37C - off.After turning off the heating element, the temperature still rises by 1-2C.
So there is no trace of any scatter in 10C, of ​​course it does not reach 75C. Perhaps by the next season I will install an electronic control of the heater, with a more accurate regulation up to 1C and possibly be able to pull the heating up to 75C. I really don't know what it is for.
4. Heating time and off. I think the spirals are not relevant, since all elements must be installed according to the calculation and with a large margin of the nominal operating mode. I hope that our manufacturers have not yet lost their staff of conscientious engineers. And electricity for 4.54 rubles. (M.O. price per kilowatt) for a difference of 2 seconds, you will gain when the dryer is operating at 1800 hours of operation! Perhaps this is true for Europe, with their electricity costs, but not for us.
5. The patent number is indicated on the front page of the passport - №149711.
P.S. I rarely write on the forums, but here is my first post and so thorough. But I, to put it mildly, do not really like marketers and their method of work, when lies interspersed with truth look very convincing. Therefore, I wrote that I measured almost on the go to check the dryer after purchase. Perhaps the first models were damp, and the manufacturer tested their technologies on them. The model "Voltera-1000 Lux" is very successful, but as far as I know, the most expensive of the domestic ones, not counting the infrared dryer. If you have any problems with temperature conditions, contact the service center, all manufacturers have jambs, and do not drain the negative from one copy for the entire batch.
Mila1
vit-us, Vitaly, thank you VERY MUCH for the fact that you, having conducted the test, shared your conclusions with us and wrote everything in such detail! I really have Isidri, but my friends bought Walter, according to my recommendations. Satisfied And I think your review is VERY useful to many who are still only faced with a choice!
Admin
Quote: vit-us
But I, to put it mildly, do not really like marketers and their method of work, when lies interspersed with truth look very convincing.

Did you drive so well to IZIDRI?
That's when your dryer has been working in terms of time and other operating parameters for so ... twenty years (like my IZIDRI), then let's talk about the convincingness of testing
Don't say GOP, from one mushroom drying session ... he ran, wrote, groaned, ran away

Independent testing Ezidri Ultra FD1000 Dryer Testing - Results

Porcini mushrooms are perfectly subject to canning, salting, fermentation - you need to be able to:

Dryer for vegetables Volter-1000Mushrooms nigella, pigs and other similar home salting
(Admin)


Mushrooms https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=460205.0
Longina
I bought a "Volter-1000" dryer, but did not immediately realize to order an additional one. marshmallow plates. And now it turns out to be a problem! Although I tried to cook apple marshmallow on one plate and it seems to me that it is more of a marmalade. Delicious, but not marshmallow. So it may not be worth looking for these plates.
Divnay
We also bought Walter, what can I say, it kind of dries. I have nothing to compare with. But their mother's service is expensive. If you buy, pay attention to the repair centers. We don't have such a miracle in Krasnoyarsk that could serve Volter. After working for exactly 10 minutes, the part that is responsible for heating burned out (God knows how it is called), I turned to the manufacturer with this problem. They believed me that after the repair they would return the money to us, I called a hundred workshops, the prices were wild for diagnostics and repairs, I had to look for a private person. And here's the result, they paid 600 rubles (300 repairs and 300 for leaving), and they tell me, Nooooo it's expensive, they do it in Tyumen for 150 rubles.
In short, I spat on this money, and what I want to say to any of my acquaintances I will not recommend our miracle of technology. And I regret not taking Isidri as originally planned.
vit-us
To be honest, I didn’t even think about mocking Isidri. I don’t really like it, and I think the wars of ideological fans are senseless. I wanted to show that everything is not so bad with "Voltaire". When choosing, here in the subject I saw a stormy statement about the fact that it does not keep the temperature.I decided to write. A negative result, the same would be reported. And they are everywhere like marketers, and if "Voltaire" suddenly begins to actively promote to the masses, then they will also go the same way. Yes, and I lunged a little incorrectly, because in the above test you compared the old model. You are right that trials cannot be emotionally colored. And electronics will last 20 years, everything is simple, I will not say about plastic. I don't like pickled porcini mushrooms, they become rustic, salting in a barrel is also not theirs, but this is a private opinion. )))
elenas
Everything is covered with the dryer! worked 5 times and the fuse ordered to live long, there is no service in Moscow. I have a shock, I have not yet met this. True, I have not bought anything of Russian production recently from technology. A full dryer for apples, I didn't notice right away. I don't even know how to fix it now, but the warranty is written for 24 months and what's the point. If I bought add. pallets screaming and swearing, no service. They received payment and were silent, neither the track number was sent, nor the letter. I corresponded with them for a week after payment, then I called and only then did they send my parcel, so more than a thousand were delivered. They send me goods faster from America and China. What a horror!
sveta-Lana
Quote: elenas
delivery over a thousand came out.
Where did you buy it? I got 450 rubles from Volgograd to Tyumen
and when the fuse burned out, I ordered a call, they called me back, agreed with a service center in Tyumen and there they repaired it under warranty
elenas
I bought the dryer itself in Moscow, but additional 5 pallets, 10 for marshmallow and 10 nets in Volzhsky. I hope we will find the fuse on sale, but I will never contact Russian goods again. I would drive to the service, but they are not in Moscow, shock! This is the first time I've met this. I will try to contact them tomorrow, but here you are shaking over the device, gradually turning everything on and off on you!
vit-us
Yes, our manufacturers have no service. I've been running around with a refrigerator, which is produced in Russia. There are no spare parts and they do not know when they will be. As a result, I had to spit on the guarantee and do it myself. And Russian goods are surprisingly of good quality. With the crisis, I began to look closely at them. There are meat grinders, juicers are better than imported ones, but the percentage of rejects so far does not reach the imported ones.
Try to find out the name of the fuse model and look for it yourself, our manufacturers use quite common and affordable spare parts. Replacing it will not be a problem.
elenas
It is clear that everything can be replaced, only one thing is bad, that the item is guaranteed for 24 months, but why? if it breaks after 5 times of use, there is no service. I was afraid to take Belomo because of the service and then I have a husband who understands this, and if a woman is single or her husband does not understand.
Olka D
elenas, I was also frightened by the lack of service in Moscow, the seller told me that they should bring them the first year if the marriage
Irgata
Quote: Longina
did not think to order additional. marshmallow plates. Now it turns out to be a problem
take a look
$ vetLana
Olka D, Olga, judging by the manufacturer's website, there are two service centers in Moscow:
Moscow LLC Group of Companies "Direction" 111524 st. Masterovaya, 2/6, building 2P 4957 55-44-29
Moscow LLC "Goldtechcenter" 111524 st. Masterovaya, 2/6, building 2P 4957 55-44-29
🔗
elenas
In general, they phoned me from the factory, offered to put a jumper made of wire, but I asked that they send me a fuse and we will install it ourselves. They also told me about the Group of Companies Direction, but they said that they did not guarantee that they had fuses. Own Oh, we will fix everything ourselves, I hope they will come, but for myself I made a conclusion. nafig buy ours, I will try not to buy anything else.
Paul I
Quote: Admin
Not satisfied - the dryer in an armful, together with a thermometer and in the store - put experiments there on measuring the temperature - change it before it's too late.

How can we help you here on the forum? If you just groan together
Why only this? These dryers are as simple as a rake.And if you want and have a minimum of knowledge and a soldering iron, it will take several hours to modify the circuit to any functionality.
Admin
If the dryer is brand new, then the best way to "repair" is to hand it back in and get everything you need for it. With this money, you can buy a completely new dryer, even a different model.

And repair work on your own (and not only) needs to be done after the expiration of the warranty period - so that if anything, not to lose money in full, or even pay extra for it (since he himself climbed into the dryer ahead of schedule)

And just in general, there is a golden rule "if you do not know how - do not climb" and climb - think about the consequences a hundred times
Paul I
Quote: Radomir84
The "new dryer" has a temperature range of about 47 ° C (in 40 ° C mode), up to 69 ° C in (60 ° C mode)

(with five pallets loaded).

At such temperatures, it makes no sense to talk about the benefits of dried products: Enzymes die at temperatures above 40 ° C ...

(All enzymes can be stored on Ezidri, as temperature conditions and actual temperature allow it)

“Most recently, we spoke with Dr. John Whitaker, the world's leading enzyme scientist and former Dean of the Department of Nutrition and Nutrition at Davis University. But most enzymes, when wet, will not cease to function at a threshold temperature of 140 to 158 degrees F (60 to 70 degrees C).


Added Sunday, 04 September 2016 12:34 PM

Quote: Admin
And just in general, there is a golden rule "if you do not know how - do not go"
Most men with their heads and hands can complete the dryer. Surely, if this is not a husband, then there will be one among friends.


Added Sunday, 04 September 2016 12:37

Quote: mish
Why are you attached to the temperature if you don't care? I care, and that's why I shared my thoughts on this topic and explained that for my money I want to receive a full-fledged product, and not a marriage (is there something wrong here?). Do you think the discussion is over? Was there any point in starting it from your side? Sorry, but sharpness for sharpness ...
Maybe the seller is not so wrong. Well from the point of view of physics. For example, it could be like this:
"The evaporation temperature of the food is below air temperature. As moisture evaporates from the surface of the food, it cools the food down to approximately 20 degrees F (11 degrees C). We established this by taking hours of air and food temperature measurements at the same time."


Added Sunday 04 September 2016 12:39 pm

Quote: didi2868
so I didn't play with the thermometer, but why not check .. I'll report back later.
If you play, take a laser thermometer. It measures the point temperature more accurately.


Added Sunday 04 Sep 2016 12:48 pm

Quote: elenas
Everything is covered with the dryer! worked 5 times and ordered the fuse to live long,
Yes, throw out this fuse nafig and short-circuit. And everything will work, most likely. Although I would first check the circuit parameters: current, heating temperature, and so on.


Added Sunday 04 Sep 2016 12:50 pm

Quote: elenas
but I will never contact Russian goods again.
I will disappoint you, but imported ones burn the same way and there are no less problems with them. And this even applies to premium products such as Liebherr refrigerators.


Added Sunday 04 Sep 2016 12:54 PM

Quote: elenas
but for myself I made a conclusion. nafig buy ours, I will try not to buy anything else.
It won't save you. The element base throughout the world is practically the same today. Both our and European devices may have the same Chinese fuses.
God forbid this will be the biggest problem with these dryers.


Added Sunday 04 Sep 2016 02:46 PM

Quote: Radomir84
Thermal fuses: for the "new dryer" 169 ° C (for Ezidri 94 ° C).

It is clear that until the insert melts and the voltage supply to the heater coil is cut off, everything around will melt and char, except for the metal parts.
No, well, I certainly understand that the purpose of this "test" is to extinguish a competitor, but still we need to be a little closer to the truth. Where did the data come from about the temperature of operation of the fuses at 169 ° C? Why would a developer suddenly start doing this if 100 ° C is obviously enough? Moreover, if he "fights" with Isidri and why invent his own? Well, by the way, a thermal fuse is in case the thermostat fails, which is a rare case in itself.
And "ABS-plastic is a fire-resistant material, the melting point varies between 230-250 degrees Celsius ..."
So what about "charred" is nothing more than a sick fantasy of the authors of the writings.
It seems to me that they did not arrange any tests either. So everyone wrote out of their heads, as most journalists work.
For housewives, it is probably convincing, but for more or less educated people, outright bullshit.


Added Sunday, 04 Sep 2016, 02:50 PM

Quote: Radomir84
... On the bottom of the cover of the "new dryer" there is a signature: "PATENTED". It would be desirable to find out the patent number - we did not succeed.
Don’t worry, it’s most likely patented one name.


Added Sunday 04 Sep 2016 15:02 pm

Yes, by the way, the said testing was carried out by the Center for Natural Agriculture from Sayanogorsk. Isidri is listed among his sponsors on his website. It is clear that in this situation, there is no question of any objectivity and impartiality.
And the last thing, since the device is scolded by such methods, it means that it is not so bad and is capable of making a decent competition for the same Isidri, in no way detracting from the merits of the latter.
Well, given the serious difference in price, our housewives received a wonderful domestic device that can replace a competitor in everything.
I foresee the objections of skeptics and I will answer.
In terms of durability, it will also serve for a long time faithfully, because I repeat, the element base is the same, there is nothing to break and if the quality of the plastic (and this is most likely so, despite the unsubstantiated statements of the "experimenters") at the level, the device will be your assistant at long years.
However, I will order it, disassemble it upon receipt and see what is inside.
mish
Quote: Paul I
Quote: mish on Aug 08. 2016, 20:14
Why are you attached to the temperature if you don't care? I care, and that's why I shared my thoughts on this topic and explained that for my money I want to receive a full-fledged product, and not a marriage (is there something wrong here?). Do you think the discussion is over? Was there any point in starting it from your side? Sorry, but sharpness for sharpness ...
Maybe the seller is not so wrong. Well from the point of view of physics. For example, it could be like this:
"The evaporation temperature of the food is below air temperature. As moisture evaporates from the surface of the food, it cools the food down to approximately 20 degrees F (11 degrees C). We established this by taking hours of air and food temperature measurements at the same time."
More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...=430121.new;topicseen#new
Paul IHave you read my post at all? I wrote in black and white that the temperature was measured in an empty dryer, WITHOUT MOISTURE AND FOOD. So no external factors in my case influenced the measurement.
Quote: Paul I
However, I will order it, disassemble it upon receipt and see what is inside.
First, order it, use it, and then share your joy, or ... for now, your reasoning from the "if only, if only" series is the reasoning of a person who did not hold this unit in his hands and has only a theoretical idea about it.
Paul I
Quote: mish
I wrote in black and white that the temperature was measured in an empty dryer, WITHOUT MOISTURE AND FOOD. So no external factors in my case influenced the measurement.
Clear.
And in the instructions, the operating temperature mode is indicated under what conditions: for empty, filled, with how many pallets, at the exit of the stove or at the exit from the top cover, that is, where it is measured, etc. Obviously, the measurement result will depend on specific conditions, measuring points and vary significantly. In addition, the actual temperature of the product itself will be significantly lower than the temperature of the blowing air. So here reflections on the difference between the temperature and the declared one are not correct, and they are not fundamental for the result obtained.
Quote: mish
First, order, use, and then share your joy or ... but for now your reasoning from the series "if only, if only" is the reasoning of a person who did not hold this unit in his hands and has only a theoretical idea about it
No, I, as a person of a technical warehouse, first collect all the information, listen to all opinions, reconcile all this with common sense and technical parameters, and only after that do I pick up or don’t pick up the unit.
As for the "theoretical concepts", do not underestimate them. On their basis, people discovered the stars, not like buying a dehydrator.
Well, my reasoning is quite specific, and not "if only, if only," as you disrespectfully note. I object and argue on very specific points and parameters. Try to object if you can.
By the way, what thermometer did you use for all your measurements? Most of these partings are not trusted at all and are godlessly lying.

Well, as a person who has worked for 20 years in advertising and marketing, such "comparisons" convince me best of all that Volter-1000 is a strong and real competitor to Isidri. Otherwise, why are they not trying to "heat" other dryers of a similar design like this: Sukhovey M, Belomo, and others?
mish
Quote: Paul I
as a person who has worked in advertising and marketing for 20 years,
So this is where the legs grow from your unfounded eloquence!
Quote: Paul I
On their basis, the people of the stars discovered
Well, when the PR man started talking about the stars, then how much to the stars to dryers.
Quote: Paul I
Try to object if you can.
I'm not even going to. You are not essentially interested - you need a person with whom you can argue. And this is definitely not me. I will remain with my opinion, and you are looking for another interlocutor to practice your eloquence and PR.
$ vetLana
I bought Volter-1000 Lux. It makes a lot of noise. We'll have to turn it on at night.
I wanted to ask those who have been using it for a long time. Do you turn it on at night? I need to dry the apples. Is it 10 - 12 hours?
Paul I
Quote: $ vetLana
I bought Volter-1000 Lux. Makes a lot of noise
How strong is it? Stronger than Isidri or Dry Wind?
$ vetLana
I can only compare with the old Soviet hood in terms of noise. I had a fanless dryer.
Quote: Paul I
Stronger than Isidri
I can only watch and compare on YouTube.

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