Rada-dms
Let us, who can, put the yogurt for 7 hours and measure the temperature inside the jar a little closer to the bottom, but not at the very bottom. Nothing changes from the composition of the leaven.
Lilida
RepeShock, because if the temperature is higher than a certain one, some of the beneficial bacteria that yogurt is saturated with die. You can eat it naturally, but the benefits are reduced. There and so, when passing into the digestive tract, the aggressive environment of the digestive tract itself destroys these bacteria.
Lilida
Rada-dms, got it.
RepeShock

Lilida, OK, thanks.
Kara
Quote: Lilida

RepeShock, because if the temperature is higher than a certain one, some of the beneficial bacteria that yogurt is saturated with die. You can eat it naturally, but the benefits are reduced. There and so, when passing into the digestive tract, the aggressive environment of the digestive tract itself destroys these bacteria.
Lydia, the bacteria you need do not die up to 58 degrees. Moreover, the sounded 55 degrees were not inside the yogurt, but on the wall of the device. These are different measurement conditions
Ninelle
Today I go to M-Video, naturally, the sales assistant rushes at me with open arms:
- How can I help you ?!
- Tell me please, do you have a Oursson yogurt fermenter? - I politely answer a sweet young man with a charming beard ..
- Somewhere, there was something! he yells happily.
No less joyfully, skipping (with a stroller-typewriter, from which my child tries to get out onto the roof), I run after him. I think frantically, how can I take them, who can take them from the girls, but how to say that, sho they are here, I'm with a phone, a tablet in my husband's bag .. Oops .. And there is quietly an orange yogurt maker with glasses, and yet never Oursson ..
Apparently, the whole storm of emotions was reflected on my face, and the bearded merry fellow realized without words that it was not right, but the flight began to convince me that it was better anyway. At the eighth minute of the confrontation, they asked me, already three sales consultants at the same time, what kind of animal do I need ... I honestly told them, sho a bear ... green and orange ... By the expression of their faces and the state of the beard of a merry fellow, I understood that at the moment they are interested in three questions: 1. Who gave me the child? 2. When will I leave? and 3. How did I decide that, what do I need they have?
But! The commercial streak and natural curiosity in them overcame all of the above, and they made the last attempt, asked how it looks, under my description, in their opinion, the Mulinex yogurt maker with one capacity was the most suitable. When I told them, sho it is not at all that, they demanded to explain the difference .. I had to explain the difference between one plastic jar without a lid, one mode, and in general, it was not the same brand .. I struck them with the fact that nada, you can make wine! Now they no longer really wanted Schaub, I left, but wanted to continue banquet discussion, but since my husband was crying alone in the car and the child was categorically against any bears, except for the big panda, we had to leave. They wanted to order it right away, but they came to the conclusion that I can handle it myself, but they took my word of honor that I would order delivery only to their store ..
In short, I'm again without a bear ..
Kokoschka
Ninelle, but on the site do not want to order?
I read a wonderful story with a smile!
Lilida
Ninelle, bad luck and this is what it means that neither the sellers, nor their relatives and friends, have a foot on the bread maker. Many do not know and do not understand. Here are the poor fellows.
Ninelle
Kokoschka, I tried three times, twice they promised to report on admission, and on the third he ended up on some kind of prevention, a site meaningful. I kept hoping for Ozone, I just need something else there, and just don't pay for delivery. And in M-Video, we have accumulated a bonus on the card, and it was just there, by the way, without a card, as it turned out .. If it does not appear on Ozona in the near future, I will order it there, of course ..
Ninelle
Quote: Lilida

Ninelle, bad luck and this is what it means that neither the sellers, nor their relatives and friends, have a foot on the bread maker. Many do not know and do not understand. Here are the poor fellows.
Otherwise, they will pick up on the ad ...
marlanca
Ninelle,
Ninul amused with a story ... 👍👍👍
Lilida
Ninelle, and in Platypus, did they disappear? There they were in two colors. I looked this morning - there were more. Maybe try to order there. They have there at a certain time and delivery is free.
Admin
Quote: Ninelle

I tried three times, twice they promised to report on admission,

On Ursone I received an order (even a pre-order !!) by Tel. +7 (800) 333-21-32 and placed the order themselves, and sent me a confirmation by mail - and then called back about the arrival of the pots - all that was left was to pay and report to the site. Now the saucepan is on delivery, I'm waiting any minute
Lilida
Admin, the joy of waiting and thinking about what to cook first ... good luck with the device, let it serve longer and well, it works without problems.
Admin

Lida, THANK YOU! I already have ideas, I'm waiting for a saucepan
Kokoschka
Quote: Admin
Lida, THANKS! I already have ideas, I'm waiting for a saucepan
Oh Admin and I'm waiting for your ideas !!!

Ninelle is just a coincidence, the site was delivered to me in the Moscow region after ordering two days later, try again!
Ninelle
Lilida, thanks, I'll take a look there too!
I can imagine the eyes of my husband and mother when they bring me another gadget at three in the morning
whitechalk
I also ordered in Utkonos with free delivery from 12.00 to 2.00, and they called and brought it today at 6 pm. I put it with water to take measurements inside the device and in the water. Well, I wonder how it will work. While the flight is normal. As in Shtebe, I got the temperature to 48 and went down. The water reached 38. Let's see what happens next.
Aygul
whitechalk, Tatyana, are you planning to sleep? Or will you follow all night?
whitechalk
Aygul, well, you can't interrupt the experiment. : crazy: Science requires victims.
Natalishka
Aygul, I'll probably start with water too
Aygul
Natalishka, and I don’t want to translate products in vain. Pragmatic though here. And then it hung on the juicers And the question arose. And for wine juice from which squeezer is needed - centrifugal or screw?
whitechalk
Maybe someone will need the results of the first test. Water at room temperature 24 ° C (more often I don't heat milk for yogurt, I break the process, so to speak) poured into a two-liter jar, fermentation mode. I measured the temperature of the water with a thermostat, and with the Teskom one - inside the device.

water t ° inside the device

After 1 hour t ° = 29 ° C t ° = 48 ° C
After 2 hours t ° = 34 ° C t ° = 46 ° C
After 3 hours t ° = 37 ° C t ° = 45 ° C
After 4 hours t ° = 38 ° C t ° = 44 ° C
After 5 hours t ° = 40 ° C t ° = 45 ° C
After 6 hours t ° = 41 ° C t ° = 45 ° C
After 8 hours t ° = 41 ° C t ° = 45 ° C
After 15 minutes. after turning it on, I lifted the can. The bottom of the appliance was very hot. Much colder after 8 hours. Now I put the water on kvass mode. True, she now took a liter jar, poured warm water.
Lilida
whitechalk, thanks for the tests. But it turns out, until a few people experiment, it's too early to draw conclusions. We are waiting for reports from other lovers of yogurt and kvass. You look and the picture will become much clearer.
Aygul
Quote: whitechalk

Maybe someone will need the results of the first test.
I didn't sleep all night, and really

As I understand it, the colder the contents, the more intense the heating? Is it such a clever thing?
Kokoschka
The wine is worth it, I opened the lid of the orsyusha there is a very mild temperature ..... the process is underway!
kiki99
I have a green fermenter. I made yogurt from evitalia, sour cream from 10% cream, several times kvass, now, for the purity of the experiment, I put currant tincture on vodka. The yogurt turned out well, the sour cream is thick and tasty. Kvass was made not from malt concentrate, but from kvass concentrate, which is sold in bottles. I kept it for 12 hours. I added sugar to the finished one to taste. The husband said that the kvass turned out to be much tastier than the store and barrel kvass. I put a solid 5 on the device. Now we are waiting for the tincture
Ekaterina2
A tour of our stores showed that there is no such product neither in m-video, nor in DNS, nor in techno-shock, nor in Eldorado. And even to order, no one undertook to bring. So, I will ask my husband ...
Lone_Wolf
Quote: Ekaterina2
... there is no such item. And even to order, no one undertook to bring.
Wait a little, they will soon be carried to the "flea market".
vernisag
Quote: Lone_Wolf
Wait a bit, soon they will be carried to the "flea market"
Even I doubt it sooo
Kokoschka
Girls yes order on the site

🔗
There is in stock if there is no constant pick up !!
vernisag
I also put a jar of water in the fermenter for testing.
pace. water 37 °
After an hour, water 40 °, inside the device 50 °
After 2 hours, water 43 °, inside the device 48 °
After 3 hours water and inside the appliance 45 °
Lilida
Girls, I was in Selgros today. I bought kvass wort there, but not in half-liter jars, but in bags (like mayonnaise, but without a lid). They have them packed there in 3 pieces, 1 sachet for 5 liters of kvass, the price is for 3 pieces. - 107 rubles. The bags are reddish-brown. Suddenly the information will be useful to someone.
Lilida
Lone_Wolf, but something you have such a pissemistic attitude, you have to be kinder and life will be more fun, since thoughts are a material thing, as you think, so you will.
vernisag
By the way, if the electricity is turned off, the program is reset
Ninelle
Ekaterina2, Omsk store Nama ships across Russia. Maybe there will be acceptable for you?
whitechalk
Experiment with water No. 2 on kvass mode.
water t ° inside the device
Initially t ° = 33 ° C

After 1 hour t ° = 32.5 ° C t ° = 35 ° C
After 2 hours t ° = 31.9 ° C t ° = 32 ° C
After 3 hours t ° = 31.3 ° C t ° = 32 ° C
After 4 hours t ° = 30.8 ° C t ° = 31 ° C
After 5 hours t ° = 30.8 ° C t ° = 33 ° C
After 6 hours t ° = 30.9 ° C t ° = 33 ° C
After 7 hours t ° = 30.6 ° C t ° = 32 ° C
After 8 hours t ° = 30.4 ° C t ° = 31 ° C
We'll see how it will work further, but on the milk. Yes, my program was reset when the electricity was cut off.
Elena Tim
Quote: Lone_Wolf
Wait a little, they will soon be carried to the "flea market".
Quote: vernisag
Even I doubt it sooo
Oh, me too! I got such sour cream today, I almost fell!
The taste and consistency is a real kaymak, which I have not eaten for 20 years since I left Tashkent. In it, damn it, not only the spoon is standing, but the knife does not fall. Now I will make a cream from such sour cream, otherwise I am not friends with a liquid store.
Natalishka
Lena, how did you do it? And from what?
Elena Tim
Natasha, I used cream "Prostokvashino" 20% room temperature. I mixed well the dry Vivo starter culture - yogurt in them, and set it for 5 hours. Then it stood in the refrigerator until morning. I'm just stunned by what happened.
Now I will use a part of this sour cream as a leaven for everything else, as Ira Kara taught.
I think that such a thick monolith sour cream is not particularly needed for every day, next time I will take 10% cream. Well, or I'll mix 10 and 20 percent. But for creams, what happened today is the very thing!
Natalishka
Thanks, understood. I will do this too: mail1: Soon my Fermenter and starter cultures will come
Elena Tim
Oh, do it, Natasha, do it! Such yummy is obtained - it is impossible to convey! Orsyushka plows every single day with me.
Olgushechka81
I put the pancake dough from the recipe book on the fermentation program for 2 hours, we are waiting for the result.
Omela
I made milk 3,2 + 2 tbsp. l. sour cream 20%, it turned out to be a thick product (I will show the photo later). Opinions were divided according to taste: sour cream for husband and mother, Greek yogurt for me. Delicious.
Elena Tim
Quote: Omela
sour cream for husband and mother, Greek yogurt for me. Delicious.
Oh, straight "cheese - Swiss, olives - Greek ..." Potbelly stove!
Ekaterina2
Lone_Wolf, even if they do - since they don't even carry to order, how many of them will there be at the flea market ??? Such a product, specific, there will be few people who want to carry it foolishly.
Ekaterina2
Kokoschka, from the site - it's good, convenient. But the cost of delivery to my city is almost half of the cost and delivery by Russian post. And this is a long time ..... Husband in my case - faster. And only if he fails, then I'll go to their website, thanks for the tip.
musyanya
Ekaterina2, in may shop ru they are expensive, but delivery to you at the point of export is 300 rubles.
I ordered my teddy bear from them, to our city when ordering from 3000 rubles, delivery is free (you have from 5000). So I did so (I got a trifle to 3000).If the cubs appear in Ozone, you still have to pay for the delivery. Well, a maximum of 200 rubles will be cheaper than in the May shop and then wait 3 weeks by mail .. I chose the green one, which is yellow in everyone's photo. Chameleon bear.
Kokoschka
Ekaterina2, understandably! I inadvertently did not look at the city ...
Ekaterina2
Kokoschka, musyanya, Thank you for participating!

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