Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class

[Veronica]

we have fireweed begins on the site. Favorite gathering place - at the back of the site, on the border with the neighboring site. A band 10 m wide and about 50 m long, impassable frequency.

Veronica, that's great! Without leaving home, collect tea leaves. And me fireweed and closer than 100 m is, but there is less. I usually go to the thickets. Going faster.

Happy

natushka, are you far away?

I am glad for you, you are so happy, you make tea from fireweed. So you want to have at least a cup of homemade food. Here I am waiting for the parcel of Ivan-tea and all in emotions.

Girls that have already given three green whistles to collect?

[Veronica]

Veronica, Ludmila, so find a warm place near mnu, even kutai, at least not kutai - everything is weathered. If not for the sheet, I would have disappeared from Etoi's coldness. The heating was turned off, the windows were wide open, it was raining and damp outside the windows; sometimes it seems to me that I am moldy. I'll tell you my secret: when everyone leaves, I turn on the oven and warm up. And now, under the pretext of heating butter, the oven works, even though I will make butter! And I will also dry candied fruits, oh, and keep warm, but if not for my magic sheet Nastya, take him under the covers: lol: joke!

[Omela]

Omela, Ksyu, whistle on the sly, go out hunting, though he is small, take pity on the little ones! Ha, how all HP will burst into the fields .... Can sign their plantations?

[such]

So, girls, my-Oksankin ivanushka smell of apples and banana puree!
And just banana to my husband. I will not stand it any longer, so as not to peroxide. It's just stunned! From where there such the smell appeared ?!
I'm preheating the oven, I'm going to dry now.

Oksanchik! While I was cooking a delicious soup with cheese and sour cream dumplings from your dream and my mother-in-law's nettle, Ivanushka was already ripe! I'll define the next batch under the blanket.

[Anastasia]

Anastasiahow much fermented in time?

Girls that have already given three green whistles to collect?

Mistletoe, dear, I'm sorry. Well I promised you to whistle! And with joy that I made tea, I forgot. So, now I'll get the whistle and sound it. Yes, we have already made tea. Today I dried the first batch. Now I will twist the second, and for the night I will put the third batch to dry. So do it dear. you know, young Ivan-tea is something incomparable. I can't breathe. Come on, before he grows up, do not miss the opportunity to make an elite seagull. And the one that you break off will grow into a lush bush a little later than the one that was not broken off.

[Oksan]

Oksan, from 11.00 to 19.00 today at a temperature of 22-25 degrees.

really small he isShSho, have pity on the little ones! Ha, how all HP will burst into the fields .... Can sign their plantations?

Oksanchik, he will only grow more magnificently. Why feel sorry for him? We are not tearing at the root - I leave 10 cm. but then the fireweed will grow as a bush, and not as a stem. I see this picture every year. We mow it in July, and then it grows back.

find a warm place near mnu, even kutai, even if not kutai - everything is weathered.

Oksanchik, have you seen the pictures of my box? Nothing erodes from there. I'm not warmer than yours. And tea turns out.

Lan, persuaded .. we can go on Thursday to go to the "fish" places.

[Lyudochka]

Lyudochka, this is news for me. The son lives in Khotkovo, it turns out that fireweed grew on their site of 1.5 acres, they thought that the weed was constantly mowed. In the fall, my son helped me make tea from the leaves of trees, I showed him a photo of fireweed, and he said nothing. And now he calls and says that Ivan-tea is making its way all over the site again. Maybe it will be possible to bring the roots here in ten days.Where is it better to plant it, what kind of soil does it like? I'm going to study on the Internet now.

Lan, persuaded .. we can go on Thursday to go to the "fish" places.

Go, dear, go ... Then you yourself will not notice how you get stuck. Today I am greedy for 3 batches of narwhal leaf tea. Now I don’t know where to put it all. used to dry on the floor, but now we have a kitten, you can hardly dry on the floor with him.

Maybe it will be possible to bring the roots here in ten days. Where is it better to plant it, what kind of soil does it like? I'm going to study on the Internet now.

Allochka, congratulations! Or maybe introduce my son to tea making?
Where to plant? We have it growing everywhere - both in the sun and in the shade. But you need to find a place for him so that he does not burn out. Rather, partial shade. And provide watering. Our land is overgrown with grass (meadow), so the fireweed does not dry out from the heat. Maybe mulch it with hay?

Now I found a good article about breeding and planting Ivan tea, just right. what I need.
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It is necessary for the weather to clear up .. otherwise there is no desire to go to this one - it is wet and cold, especially today .. brr ...

It is necessary for the weather to clear up .. otherwise there is no desire to go to this one - it is wet and cold, especially today .. brr ...

We are not far from each other, and we have been dry for 3 days. But it's cloudy, cold and windy. Tomorrow the weather will begin for you. And on Friday it will be + 28 *.

Now I found a good article about breeding and planting Ivan tea, just right. what I need.

Allochka, thanks! I'll take it to your bookmarks. Suddenly come in handy.

are you far away?

Not that far, only in the forest near the garden, and that is very little, you have to look for every bush.

So my first tea has dried up. My husband persuaded me to brew it immediately. What can I say - it's delicious. Highly! And beautiful. The sour smell is gone completely, like a baked banana smells, sweetish taste. The infusion is not very dark. If this kind of tea comes out, I will be just happy.

Nastenka, congratulations on your first tea! I'm so glad you did it! Well done!

The infusion is not very dark.

I wonder why this is?

Thanks for the compliments!
I realized for myself that even if what I got is far from the real Koporsky, I will still do it according to this algorithm, because I liked the result.

I can't say yet why the infusion is not dark, because the experience is not enough. But there is a suspicion that this depends on the fermentation period. The juice released during deformation of the leaves undergoes fermentation for a longer time, it becomes darker.
The Ivan tea leaves themselves are almost black, but are brewed in an amber infusion.

Nastya, you got a little fermented (8 hours) tea like green, so it's light. Luda recommends fermenting for 20-24 hours, then black tea is obtained. And you also need to try to fry it, then it caramelizes, if you can call it that. My first one was also light with so many hours of fermentation. Well this is good, I think tea should be both black and green! This is just the beginning, we will do a lot and different things. It will be possible to pull on apple flowers too!

And, really, panet yummyoo,: crazy: when it dries up!

Nastya, you've got a little fermented tea like green tea, so it's light. Luda recommends fermenting for 20-24 hours, then black tea is obtained.

And I like 12 hours tea the most. or so. And he's black too. Nastya, did you make loose leaf tea? A leaf is lighter than granular. and the frying, when dried, really gives a darker color.

It smells delicious!
Since the leaves themselves were few, everything dried out quickly, I did not have time to enjoy the aroma.

As for fermentation: I was afraid to ferment these tender leaves longer. Moreover, they already smelled very strongly of banana and apple.
About frying: I dried by the method of shock drying - 3 minutes for 150 g, 5 minutes for 100 and then 80 g. And it looks like thin black threads.
Eh, there is still so much room for experimentation!

[Luda]

Luda, yes, leafy - the leaves were very tender, I didn’t raise my hand into a meat grinder to push them. But she shook her hands, realized to what extent the leaf should be dried so that the juice in the right amount was released.

They are teasing here

Don’t tell me ... I didn’t see any flowers in the eyes, the current in the picture ... And they rip off with sacks!

[Tricia]

Tricia, this is because there are not enough of them, but when you bring your new bag full: girl-swoon: and you will touch the flies in your eyes, then they will fly into the meat grinder along with the snails - you will not regret frying it longer !!!!!!
LenaV07, ElenaIt seems to me that he is growing in Ukraine, so I saw him. In the Vinnitsa and Zhytomyr regions, and you have a "sinister" and wormwood growing, but there is no here

[Tricia]

And about fermentation: I was afraid to ferment these tender leaves longer. Moreover, they already smelled very strongly of banana and apple.

Tricia, the less the leaf structure is destroyed, the worse the fermentation will be. But how do we twist everything in a meat grinder? Everything is destroyed there. You either make tea, or feel sorry for the leaves - one of two things. If you are sorry, the tea will be light and not saturated. I brewed my first tea yesterday. Blackening! Nastya, read the materiel - we need to destroy the sheet. By the way, the freezer allows you to do this at the cellular level - all cell membranes are destroyed by freezing. Now, if you, without regret, try to twist everything in a meat grinder, you will be shocked how different leaf tea differs from granulated tea!
And don't be afraid to ferment. After all, our tea is fermented, not dried medicinal material. Fermentation is the whole point. The better we ferment, the better the tea will be.

But I shook my hands, I realized to what extent the leaf should be dried so that the juice in the right amount is released.

Nastenka, the juice shouldn't stand out! The leaves should just get wet. I twist it in a meat grinder and the juice does not stand out. if juice is released, then this is not ice, it means that the leaf is badly wilted. Therefore, fermentation will be weaker.
From here, Nastenka, you have light tea.
Conclusion: 1. We dry very well. 2. we destroy the sheet very well! 3. Dry at high temperature for longer (read the recipe, how much). 4. You can ferment for 12 hours now, as the leaf is very juicy and fermentation takes longer.

About frying: I dried by the method of shock drying - 3 minutes for 150 g, 5 minutes for 100 and then 80 g. And it looks like thin black threads.

3 minutes is not enough. you need to dry at least 20 minutes at the very beginning at a high temperature, then at 100 gr. before it starts to dry. And only then translate to 60 *. There was little shock at your leaves. they should be given more time for this shock. This is another reason for the light color of the tea. Nastyush, read the links at the end of the recipe for theoretical calculations about withering, fermentation and drying. you will understand that you were too careful with your first tea. You like him now. And if you did everything according to science, you would like him even more.
I reread my post and was upset - it turned out to be some kind of edifying one. But I had to say it. I want everyone to have great tea, not just acceptable!

[one more conclusion]

Nastya, I have one more question. What layer of leaves was fermented? If the thickness and volume of the layer are not sufficient, then the fermentation is weaker. And the color ends up being lighter.
Yesterday I set the tea to ferment. Layer - 10 cm. It was cold in the house. I first put the container on the wire rack over the heating pad. The temperature in the chamber was 27 *. She held it for 4 hours. At night, she put it under the blanket jackets. The mixture was very warm this morning. that is, the fermentation was active. If the mixture was cold, then fermentation would not proceed. Or it would be bad. The tea smells great.
so that, one more conclusion: The volume of the fermented mixture must be sufficient for the fermentation to proceed well.
Now the leaves are drying - 1400 gr. The volume will be even larger. And fermentation will be faster and better.

[Luda]

Luda! Thanks for debriefing! The main thing is, do not be upset!
Now from the tablet - I can not insert a quote.
The leaves themselves were a small package, so it was quick and easy to process.
There were very delicate leaves, just very pale green, fragile. When kneading and "kneading" after a while they became dark and slightly damp. Kneading according to the method of a man with a baby bath from the video. Tracked the appearance. If his rather hard leaf got wet and the structure of the leaf cells was destroyed, then my gentle one became the same as in the video, looking pretty quickly.
About drying: my tea did not take up a baking sheet in 1 layer, there was very, very little of it after crushing. Therefore, the shock drying was short. I watched all the time, stood by. As soon as the steam stopped coming from the tea and the tea leaves became dry, but not brittle and dark, I realized that the top layer, where fermentation took place, had seized / sealed. So you can move on to a more gentle drying. Several more. minutes and medium ivan-tea leaves began to crack with a crunch in their hands. The color of all tea is black. Now he is on dryness.

Luda! Many times it happened to me that, in a fit of perfectionism, I hopelessly spoiled food, sewing, knitting, crafts. To be on the safe side, so that the first tea would not have to be thrown away, and in order not to start the season with a failure, I was a little careful. I have already tasted the teas of our girls, teas of other enthusiasts - shop teas. I can say that my husband and I liked my first tea no less than gift tea and much more than store tea. Moreover, the bright amber infusion cannot be called so light! I just brewed it very economically and did not take it into account when describing.
Yes, I myself really like granulated teas for their strength, color, saturation. But you can make a little elite willow tea from whole leaves - very young leaves are beautiful when brewed!

Thanks again for debriefing!
Mat. some have already re-read 4 times from cover to cover. But I reserve the right to act according to the situation, if suddenly my hands and intuition suggest some other solution.

I think he is growing in Ukraine, so I saw him. In Vinnytsia and Zhytomyr regions.

As for me, it's all the same that

not here

And what is "sinister"?

Mat. some have already re-read 4 times from cover to cover. But I reserve the right to act according to the situation, if suddenly my hands and intuition suggest some other solution.

Nastenka, of course, is your tea, so rely on your intuition.

And mine tells me that it is necessary to get rid of the teacher at the root. I'm sorry if I offended you. I promise not to bother with my advice anymore if they don't ask me.

[LenaV07]

LenaV07, You are closer to Russia, maybe it is growing de, only mowing, but maybe I'm wrong! If I manage to go to my mother, I will search everything on purpose, at the time of the vanka! A "sinister" super grass, grows in the fields like a weed. Good to lie down. Holy Island has (teeth) and it is very good to rinse her head with it, I used to take her to St. Petersburg, both myself and my friends. I don't remember the exact name, I'll look in the internet!
Ludmila, Nastya had three handfuls of raw tea, there it was necessary to ferment in a liter mug, very little; and a vague doubt gnaws at me that the infusions: _{need to put more}, I know from myself!

[Luda!]

Luda! Here I say, do not be upset! I have absorbed all the advice and will definitely use it, honestly!
And there is nothing to get rid of, if everyone around will lisp and stroke the wool, how can we improve ?!
Vaughn and Oksanchik says, and she knows best about this Ivanushka - she collected this bag herself - that my fermentation and drying times were due to a small amount of leaf. That's why everything passed so quickly.
But on a sheet of more than 1 kg, I will already apply, Luda, your method!
And there can be no grievances - here they teach me for free! We still have to pay extra!
And in general, this is my fault - I misled you with my verbiage, but the most important thing - the number of sheets and did not say! Lyudochka, forgive me for God's sake, only in vain upset you

This is my first Ivan-tea, I am with him as with a written bag and so and so. And all the actions are almost under the record.

Nastenka, everything is OK. You have nothing to apologize for. Make, dear, a lot of tea and delicious! I know that you will be great!

Hello everybody. no one forgot that the pine candles went? I already typed)) Lyuda, did you ferment them?

[Sergei]

Sergei, good evening! We remember about candles! We talked about them in another topic. I haven't typed yet, as they are small yet. I'll do it in a week. I did as I described in the recipe for "Fermented tea from garden and wild plants", that is, I twisted it in a meat grinder and immediately dried it in a dryer at a low temperature. And some girls fermented for a couple of hours. I will do the same as last year ..

fermented for a couple of hours.

I wonder what is the result of fermentation?)) What is the difference? And if drying in the oven?))

[Sergei]

Sergei, the girls wrote that they like fermented pine. But I was quite satisfied with the way I described. I wanted to keep the nutrients to the maximum. Therefore, I dried it at a low temperature - 45 *. You can also dry in the oven. Now I will ask Lina how she did it - in the "Tea Gazebo". You come there too. Lina goes there every day, but not here.

pine candles

Sergey, this is us in the topic "Fermented tea from garden plants ...." we all discussed. I fermented first for 3 hours, then 2, then 30 minutes. There is no difference, because the antibacterial substances in pine trees prevent fermenting bacteria from multiplying there. Therefore, for order, you can hold it for an hour, and then immediately dry it. I dried it in the oven at about 60 * C, since at a higher T they can burn. Dried for 3 days in a bag. I really like the aroma and taste, especially cypress, but I drink them mixed with others.

Lyudochka, thank you for the tip in preparing Ivan tea in the month of May! Today we went on a reconnaissance mission, gained a little. How fragrant it is, the leaves are tender. I put it on fermentation. We have it already large, 50 cm each. Tomorrow we will go to collect the workpieces for a serious portion.

Marinochka, prepare young Ivanushka for health. Yes, May tea is extraordinary! We must have time to do more of it. Although it is time consuming (peeling off the leaves for a long time), it is worth it.
And I already have 700 gr. dry tea in the container is removed for storage. And today I have processed 5.5 kg of leaves!

How I want to try fireweed tea! I've read so much here about its amazing taste and incredible aroma. Why don't we have it ?!

[Galina]

Colleagues! Brought a report on Galina tea! So:
May tea, leaf (without stems), manual processing.(details / secrets of manufacturing - from the author).
Dry tea:
Visual inspection: tea leaves 0.5-2 cm, no debris, color from brown (little) to dark-dark brown (bulk), when squeezed, they break, but do not crumble.
Smell: bright smell of dark raisins, good black tea, notes of caramel and / or some sweet fruit.
Infusion:
Color: golden, I would say transparent, sunny ocher.
Smell: very bright scent of dark raisins! and rose hips (without acidity). I would especially like to note the absence of any acidity and herbal, broom aroma! (And we all know that willow tea initially produces a herbal, fresh and sour aroma.)
Taste: very drinkable and fluid, without tannin bitterness, clearly sweetish. Just great! ... Galya! Congratulations on such a wonderful tea!

I can imagine how rich this tea will have a bouquet if it also manages to undergo dry fermentation.
Galya, if possible, keep a little of this elixir for six months, then compare the impressions.

Today we have collected a lot of Ivan's tea! We went deeper into the forest, and there it is already a meter high! Already so tall! But the leaves are all tender, green, clean, juicy. Now he is withering, in the evening we will twist "sausages". Yesterday is already drying in the dryer. The scent is all over the street. It is very different from the summer preparation of Ivan tea, much brighter, stronger, more aromatic.

[Nastenka]

Brought a report on Galina tea!

Nastenka, thank you very much for the report on Galochka tea. As always, bright. I wouldn't write that.
Marina, Congratulations ! How will you do it?

[Ludmila]

Ludmila,

even today processed 5.5 kg of leaves

I can't keep up with you! Today I went after Vanechka - I gained 4 kg., I wanted to gain more in the evening - the weather turned bad, it was raining. So now the collection is postponed for two days.

Anastasia,

Smell: bright smell of dark raisins, good black tea, notes of caramel and / or some sweet fruit.

Color: golden, I would say transparent, sunny ocher.

Smell: very bright scent of dark raisins! and rose hips (without acidity). I would especially like to note the absence of any acidity and herbal, broom aroma! (And we all know that willow tea initially produces a herbal, fresh and sour aroma.)

That is not to add, not to take away! The tea is really quite different from what was harvested last year from July to September. and it also seems to me that it is indisputably tastier.

[Borisyonok]

I can't keep up with you!

BorisyonokI'm limited by the size of my mini oven. and I would have collected more. And so today a batch of 3 kg. dried for 4 hours.

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, and my husband stopped me today - did not let me collect it a second time (though I came in the morning - my face was on fire).
Now I sit and regret that I obeyed.