Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class

which enhance the fermentation process

For me, a beginner tea maker, this is news :). Wouldn't the tea infusion then be cloudy after such assistance in fermentation?

So let's take it easy for now

Thank you for understanding!

Now I am watching video master classes on the collection and fermentation of Ivan tea. How many people - so many ways! One man collects flowering plants + leaves, another only leaves, the third is the same + twigs. And different degrees of leaf maturity. It's just a sea of ​​combinations. And how deliciously and dexterously the peasants crumple the Ivan tea leaf with their hands! I want that too! But will it work out, eh ... And what bales they collect the leaf! Hurry spring-summer

For me, a beginner tea maker, this is news :). Wouldn't the tea infusion then be cloudy after such assistance in fermentation?

I don’t even know, Nastenka. there are so many bacteria, except for MC (lactic acid), that maybe they won't - they will eat everything ... I'll have to try in the summer. All in all, it's business - to put an extra bowl of leaves. but we will know the answer.

How many people - so many ways! One man collects flowering plants + leaves, another only leaves, the third is the same + twigs. And different degrees of leaf maturity. It's just a sea of ​​combinations. And how deliciously and dexterously the peasants crumple the Ivan tea leaf with their hands! I want that too! But will it work out, eh ... And what bales they collect the leaf! Hurry spring-summer

Nastya. it looks like you are going with the same addresses as me. I also watched all these videos (I spend all the traffic on them). I also remember the man who kneads the leaves in the baby bath. I haven't crumpled the leaves yet. But strong hands are needed there. Although it is possible to force domestic men to do this.
And I remember these huge bales, and how they walk on the leaves in socks, trying not to stain them (the leaves). And what love these men have in their eyes ... for TEA ... As for a beloved woman. Worthy of respect and replication of their experience, definitely.

I want that too! But will it work, eh ...

Nastya, it will turn out even better. You will see...

We will definitely try with milk! And we will discuss the results. Now I’ll make a note to myself in my notebook.

as they walk on the leaves in socks, trying not to stain them

Only yesterday I watched this video! I also thought, how neat and clean everything is around. And the main character explains everything so clearly, it is immediately clear that the person is in the subject and loves his job! ))

And what love these men have in their eyes ... for TEA ...

This is what amazed me! And no one even hinted that this was a "woman's" business, that the men did not do this. Directly a balm for the soul, which is somewhere around normal, not refined urban pseudo-real macho, but economic, skillful, enthusiastic men. And I really want to do like them. I'm already thinking about buying a bath!

We will definitely try with milk! And we will discuss the results. Now I’ll make a note to myself in my notebook.

Let's try, Nastenka, be sure ...

Only yesterday I watched this video!

And when watching, I was envious, looking at the equipment that he brought from China. Oh, how you want this. But then it is necessary to produce tea on an industrial scale.

I'm already thinking about buying a bath!

I think that you can do with a basin. Or an ordinary table. I was kneading leaves on the table. But not to such an extent that they curl up into a tube. First of all, you need a reliable meat grinder ... And the bath will be a nice bonus.

Good time!
Girls, dear, I'm not that kind of youth anymore. This avatar of mine is probably misleading. So it's not me)) I have had this picture for a very long time and in all forums, it is so convenient for me to immediately see my messages)
So that there are no more misunderstandings, I indicated the age in the profile

I want to say that somehow I also downloaded Pokhlebkina "About Tea" for myself, but I never read it. For this week I was left without a mouse, and it turned out that I was completely helpless ((There is a whole problem to open the necessary pages, Temko is not searched for .. Well at least I guessed to find it through my profile and messages. So what am I talking about? About Pokhlebkin! In general, I can type quickly. And if necessary, I can type from this book. But my mouse will return

Girls, dear, I'm not that kind of youth anymore. This avatar of mine is probably misleading.

Sveta, I went on purpose and looked at the profile ... Girl ... So, they say, and not write age. Yes, this is not the main thing .... The main thing is these impulses of the soul - to print the text, help if you can.
And about Pokhlyobkin, you need to ask Nastya what she meant. Nastya, answer me ...
By the way, I can't live without a mouse either. Not ... I'm lying ... I can, but I feel such discomfort. It's better with a mouse, definitely. and faster ...

Lyudmila, thanks for the "girl"
And I ... I translated this book into .doc format! At the same time I read it "diagonally". I didn’t find anything remarkable for myself, although maybe it’s because I need to read it more carefully) Now I can just post it: at least in pieces, at least in whole, at least on a file sharing thread.

translated this book into .doc format!

Sveta, wow, well done! You can directly here, or better in the topic "Fermented tea from leaves of garden and wild plants" to copy Pokhlebkin's text about brewing tea. Or they sent me an e-mail book. I will choose and place myself. In general, how convenient it is ...

Now I'll throw off my address in a personal

Yes, I didn’t have time to answer.
I still have the "Encyclopedia of Tea", from where I will scan information about Ivan-tea and brewing black-green tea.

But I dug up a link on tricky tea brewing. I have never seen so many names for the stages of water boiling and individual actions during brewing! A real magic ritual!
🔗

By the way, I looked at how much fermented Ivan tea costs in online stores. Mom dear! Expensive, however. By preparing yourself, you can save more money than in Lyudmila's calculations.

By the way, I looked at how much fermented Ivan tea costs in online stores. Mom dear! Expensive, however. By preparing yourself, you can save more money than in Lyudmila's calculations.

Nastenka, yes, in my calculations, I took the average price, so as not to shock people.

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Thank you, Nastya, for the link. I'll go and try to open it with my turtle's Internet.

[Lyudochka]

Lyudochka! And it seems to me that you can also shock, because you get exactly the same tea as on beautiful advertising brochures. Moreover, you also make different blends. For example, Ivan tea with raspberry leaves has already ended on many sites - expensive and popular.
Although, naming real prices, you still can't lure people - you can't be cute. And you don't need it.

Now I read the long-term correspondence of several forums dedicated to Koporye tea. How many stories of tea-makers are there that people who try excellent Koporye tea first of all ask how to lose weight with it and why it is so miraculous. Like, how can you drink such crap, if it does not heal all sores. Although swill is whipped - Liptons and instant coffee - no question.
And children came to one lady and started offering money for "normal" tea, and not for this antediluvian gathering. What a shame for Koporsky (and any other homemade fermented) tea, no strength.
For myself, I decided that I would not prove anything to anyone.We will drink with my husband (and teach children) and enjoy the taste and useful properties, and then we will rejoice in our health and live as vigorous hares until 100 years old, and maybe even longer))).

I'm drinking now Galochkin ivan tea and can distinctly smell the prunes! In color and taste, it is a medium fermentation tea. And when I brewed for the first time, it was completely incomprehensible. And now, after all these read pages, I began to understand what's what! Now I brew it in a different way and insist longer (he is not afraid of steeping and cooling like ordinary tea, but on the contrary, he only benefits from it!). And the sedative effect went away. There comes simply relaxation, without loss of concentration, anxiety goes away. And then there are various other beneficial effects.
It's a pity that we don't have a normal filter, we're going to buy everything at least Aquaphor, otherwise we brew figs with what kind of water, on which the taste of tea also depends.

Why am I writing all this.
Lyudochka! I really want to thank you for the topic! : rose: I've been looking for at least something for a long time that will help me get out of sores, support my immunity, and so I have a feeling that I am on the right track. Thank you!

[thawed]

For myself, I decided that I would not prove anything to anyone. We will drink with my husband (and teach children) and enjoy the taste and useful properties, and then we will rejoice in our health and live as vigorous hares until 100 years old, and maybe even longer))).

Nastya, what a good mood! With him, and with our seagull, you will definitely live for more than 100 years. And immunity is fixable! Ivan tea will contribute to this. I say exactly!
I love the way you approach the topic of tea! And this is provided that you have not done it yet. I can already imagine how you and Galya walk through the fields and collect fireweed. I'm glad for you in advance - you still have to plunge into this tea atmosphere. Sheer delight! For three seasons I have been making this tea, but this delight has not yet dulled. Each new batch of tea is like the first time! Only emotions change - the weather is different, fireweed at a different time, conditions change. And if you consider that not all ideas have come true, the new tea season promises to be even more interesting.
Well, we will not pay attention to skeptics. These people are either lazy, or do not know in what ignorance they are.
Just the other day, my husband's niece and her family came to visit us. I gave them tea without warning which one I brewed. So my niece's husband drank tea, praising and asking what kind of tea I brewed. He is a connoisseur and lover of black Chinese. I brought a container of tea (2 liters) and said that he praised this one. He winced, saying that he had never seen tea sold like this. started teaching me that loose tea should not be bought. When I told him that I made this tea myself, he was shocked. In general, there was an interrogation with partiality. Our conversation ended with the fact that he took from me a promise to teach them how to make tea. Well, when I gave him this container of tea, plus a couple of Derevensky containers to it, his happiness knew no bounds. This is how consciousness changes ...

The only pity is that we do not have a normal filter, we are going to buy at least Aquaphor, otherwise we brew figs with what kind of water, on which the taste of tea also depends.

Nastya, there is a way out. Even without a filter, you can get wonderful water for tea - thawed... Gorgeous water! It turns out gorgeous tea! This water itself is a medicine. And for our tea - just a godsend. I already wrote about this in the next topic. And I also wrote how to cook it. Read it on the internet if you are not already familiar with such water. She will pleasantly surprise you.

I really want to thank you for the topic! ... Thank you!

To your health, Nastenka! I am very glad that our tea "hooked" you!

Nastya, and that's enough to poke out ... come on "you"? Did you agree?

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, invaluable material! Thank you very much for such detailed information. Sorry, I saw it just now. This year I made tea from fireweed for the first time. I didn't really like it. Now I understand why. It turns out that it was lightly fermented, and I like black. Next summer I will take into account all the mistakes, I already see them after reading.Thanks again

I read, read and enjoy your stories, girls! And so I want my planted plants not to freeze ...

[Natusichka]

Natusichka, I think that you will no longer have frost, if only the roots are preserved in the ground. When will it be seen? is everything starting to grow in March?

By the way, I still remember the picture in the tea themes was - a Chinese man dries / roasts tea on an open fire. And I'm already thinking about the implementation process. There is a brazier. We need to come up with something of a large volume on it.

[niamka]

Lyudmila, invaluable material! Thank you very much for such detailed information. Sorry, I saw it just now.

niamka, Natalia, I'm also sorry that I missed your message from January! But everything is still ahead, so in the spring-summer-autumn we will still discuss all the issues related to our tea. yes, and now you can.
The main thing is that you do not boil in your juice, but connect to the general tea preparations. We will quickly find out what went wrong with you!

I read, read and enjoy your stories, girls! And so I want my planted plants not to freeze ...

Natusichka, and for some reason I missed your message. But Mary Poppins, right, soon you will be able to see whether your roots have taken root or not. Just don't bother them, let them make their way.

[Mary Poppins]

By the way, I still remember the picture in the tea themes was - a Chinese man dries / roasts tea on an open fire. And I'm already thinking about the implementation process. There is a brazier. We need to come up with something of a large volume on it.

Mary Poppins, the fire must be strong. The grill is not very suitable here. You need to hang this kind of pot over the fire. More or less like this:
or so

Yes, I hope and very much that they are not frozen ... Easter is early this year, so spring should be early too. Let's see.
And if not .... no, I will not talk about the bad yet! I really hope for the good !!!

[lappl1]

lappl1, Yes, yes, it is!
There is still time to think about it.

I have not yet solved the issue with the meat grinder ((

[Mary Poppins]

Mary Poppins, think, but share your thoughts with us. Good? Otherwise, maybe we need it.
But decide with a meat grinder ... tea-makers can't do without it!

[Natusichka]

Yes, I hope and very much that they are not frozen ... Easter is early this year, so spring should be early too. Let's see. And if not .... no, I will not talk about the bad yet! I really hope for the good !!!

Natusichka, we are worried about these roots with the whole topic! So everything will be OK. In principle, why not be so - not Siberia! And in Siberia, Ivan tea is growing. Itself is eliminated, multiplied, accepted. Already in Ukraine, he should be more comfortable in winter.

I really hope so ... only it started raining in winter ... and then frost hit ... so I'm worried!

[Natusichka]

Natusichka, nothing wrong! We have such weather too! And Ivan tea is not translated! He's tenacious!

I really hope so ... only it started raining in winter ... and then frost hit ... so I'm worried!

that's for sure, we do not have this in winter))
Something I myself am already waiting for your leaves)) Be sure to keep in touch!

Lyudmila, do not even hesitate, with whom else can I share?

There is a meat grinder, but last year I changed the sleeve twice (on an apple / blackberry / strawberry) Fireweed will work well on it. The only thing is that I will still decide on a mini-oven, because the granules crumble from stirring in a frying pan ((I only have half-granulated fireweed - the rest half is powder I brew, of course, but I drink through a strainer and don't offer this as a gift. leaf fireweed mixed with the surviving granules - this is how the strength and the appearance are pleasant.
I dream of a semi-industrial

[Mary Poppins]

nevertheless, I will decide on a mini-oven, because from stirring in a pan, the granules crumble

Mary Poppins, we must decide. A completely different life will be - tea tea leaves to tea leaves will turn out - almost without a scattering. And all the aroma will remain.

I dream of a semi-industrial

This is my dream too. But I still can't imagine how to implement it.

[Girls!]

Girls! Well, what are you doing? You describe everything so deliciously that I can't wait for spring to finally see that my twigs have taken root and look forward to the leaves from them with great impatience! I'm already looking forward to drinking tea from fireweed leaves !!!! Wore no longer wait !!!!

And what will happen if they do not rise .... or I do not succeed as you do ??? ... I'm even scared to think ...

A completely different life will be - tea tea leaves to tea leaves will turn out. And all the aroma will remain.

Eh ..... I read and salivate ... as described ...

[Natusichka]

And what will happen if they do not ascend .... or I will not succeed as you do ??? ... I'm even scared to think ...

Natusichka, put aside the decadent mood! They will ascend. We are rooting for them with the whole topic. Just to make tea from them, you need to wait for more to grow and grow. So, this year it will hardly be possible to make tea. But it is not important. It is important to grow fireweed for now. And then we won't let the tea fail.
Natusichka, and in order to get your hands on tea, you can while training on different garden plants. Come to neighboring tea topics. We will teach.

[Lyudochka !!!]

So, this year it will hardly be possible to make tea. But it is not important.

Lyudochka !!! How is it not important ??? I want it right away! I can hear its taste !!!!

[Natusichka]

Natusichka, yes, important. But to get tea, you need to collect at least 1 kg of leaves. And in the first year it will hardly be possible to collect so much.

But it grows well. True, we have .. Probably, on the sunny side it is not necessary to plant it in the south - it is too sunny. But I don't know for sure.
Lyudmila correctly says - you come to the tea topic (though now there is more talk about wine there) Tea is made of all fruit trees. Practice on cats on the leaves of fruit trees. If there are not enough leaves of willow tea, you can try making a pure willow leaf tea (for several servings, in a small volume).

It is necessary! But I want Ivan-tea !!!!!

[Natusichka]

But I want Ivan-tea !!!!!

Natusichka, calmness, only calmness! Do you want So it will be! And don't even hesitate!

[E. V. A. 75]

E. V. A. 75, if you just dry the fireweed, then, of course, it will be useful. But it won't be tea anymore. And just a medicinal infusion with the smell and taste of the herb. The fermentation process gives the fireweed an indescribable smell and taste - from the herbal smell after fermentation, the fireweed acquires a fruity-floral-honey oromat. And the color of the fermented willow tea also turns out to be the usual "tea" color, moreover, transparent. The infusion of simply dried fireweed due to the mucus in its composition turns out to be cloudy. like a medicinal infusion - and that's great! But not for tea ... Mucus protects the stomach from the aggression of gastric juice. For those who have problems with the gastrointestinal tract, I advise sooooo to take a decoction of ivan tea leaves 20 minutes before meals. After 3 days, there is an improvement!
So, if we decide to make tea, then fireweed needs to be fermented. If you just treat it with it, then you can simply dry it.
But fermentation is no big deal. This I just wrote so much to take into account all the nuances. And if you start doing it, you will see that everything is not as difficult as it seems.

Good day . My name is Sergey. Since last year I have become interested in fireweed. I collected it and dried it. But recently I learned that you can ferment. I read your description of the collection, fermentation and drying - and got sick with this case)))) I brew and drink herbal tea from dried fireweed. Sumptuously. Podsk What is the difference in usefulness between dried fireweed (grass) and fermented?

Sergey, read the beginning of the topic, there it is described in detail what fermentation is, very necessary knowledge! Our doctors and homeopaths, that is, professionals, write there.
The difference is huge, we are all addicted to this tea, we regret that little has been done. This is a ROYAL tea, incomparable with anything.And if you like even dried fireweed, then from the fermented you will simply be stunned, sorry for the expression.
Our teacher will be there only in 2 days, she will answer you in more detail.
Also read about fermented tea made from garden and wild plants.

Sergey, read the beginning of the topic, there it is described in detail what fermentation is, very necessary knowledge! Our doctors and homeopaths, that is, professionals, write there.
The difference is huge, we are all addicted to this tea, we regret that little has been done. This is a ROYAL tea, incomparable with anything. And if you like even dried fireweed, then from the fermented you will simply be stunned, sorry for the expression.
Our teacher will be there only in 2 days, she will answer you in more detail.
Also read about fermented tea made from garden and wild plants.

Interestingly. Where is the problem with fireweed. We don't have such a problem in Siberia. For that there are no those plants that grow in the south. I am a simple man, so the word “you’re awesome” doesn’t hurt my ears

Little Ivan-tea was made, but you understand that only now, when there is not enough of it left, but there is also "Village". And we also do not have many stenchs, even my apple trees do not grow

Little Ivan-tea was made, but you only understand that now, when there is not enough of it left, but there is also "Village". And we also do not have many stenchs, even my apple trees do not grow

I have a Ural liquid tanker on my site. Wild pear grows in the abandoned fields of the fruit and berry station. Lots of sea buckthorn. Strawberry. Irga. Z I find a place in the taiga where wild strawberries and forest currants))) I have a car. And I love the forest. In general, nature. I leave the city whenever possible. I want to try making Russian tea in nature. The only thing that stops me so far is the drying of the fermented in the field. Write to me about "Rustic".

"Country tea" (fermented) - six in one "- well, I don't know how to give links, but this is my favorite tea (ivan tea, I already wrote, out of competition), you can stuff all sorts of leaves there, it does not ferment for a long time, but very, very tasty. You can dry it over the fire, the main thing is to fry it a little at first, and then stir it constantly, and dry it in a pillowcase. Well, the girls will advise them later, everyone is busy today.
Put the topic about the village in the search engine, I promise you will like it very much!

[elena kadiewa]

elena kadiewa, Helen go to help.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=390336.0

[turner]

turner, SergeiLook at links
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=390336.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=389380.0.

I would like to share my summary of tasting ivan tea of ​​varying degrees of fermentation. Prolonged fermentation and strong roasting gives the strength and color of the tea, which is important for me in teas, and weaker fermentation and more gentle drying of the tea gives aroma. And the most ideal option is obtained from a mixture of strong and aromatic. I will do them separately and combine them before use.

I also wrote that I liked adding granulated tea to loose leaf tea, with an external aesthetic appearance, it turns out a fragrant and strong tea.

Tell me what is the difference in usefulness between dried fireweed (grass) and fermented?

Seryozha, fermentation is the process of influencing the plant raw material of bacteria and yeast fungi, which significantly enhances the taste, color, aroma and benefits of these plants. This is why the Chinese ferment tea, not just dry it. In addition, it is fermented plant materials (and not just dried ones) that are medicine from the point of view of the Chinese. In this case, the taste and aroma also become immeasurably better than just dried herbs. It is not for nothing that the Queen of England, being the owner of the vast majority of Indian tea plantations, drinks exactly Koporye tea (and sells Indian tea).

Seryozha, fermentation is the process of influencing the plant raw material of bacteria and yeast fungi, which significantly enhances the taste, color, aroma and benefits of these plants. This is why the Chinese ferment tea, not just dry it. In addition, it is fermented plant materials (and not just dried ones) that are medicine from the point of view of the Chinese. In this case, the taste and aroma also become immeasurably better than just dried herbs.It is not for nothing that the Queen of England, being the owner of the vast majority of Indian tea plantations, drinks exactly Koporye tea (and sells Indian tea).

THANKS girls for the information. Happy Spring Festival to all of you !!!!!! Well, you girls completely infected me with tea :) I'm a techie by profession. Immediately I got the idea of ​​how to facilitate the processing of raw materials. Oh and infectious you girls

Oh and infectious you girls

That's for sure ! And we also have experience on technical issues, but they are mostly in the subject "Fermented tea from garden plants". ... True, there is still a lot that is superfluous, which we transferred to another topic "Tea Gazebo", do not be alarmed. Interesting moments about the time and conditions of fermentation to get beautiful "worms" when scrolling through a meat grinder and a lot of interesting things. Luda will clean up the topic and there you can learn a lot.

Yes, we are such an infection, in the sense of contagious. But this is actually such a gambling business, it is not possible to wait until the tea is infused in a jar, at least a month! And then, when you taste the already infused tea!
There is a video somewhere, like being dried over a fire in a cauldron. And a meat grinder is needed, preferably a powerful electric one, although I did the usual one for the first season, which turns with handles, however, after taking a sample from the teas, the husband and son bought me a second electric meat grinder and a mini oven for the country.
Now only one thought is to make it bigger, bigger, bigger!
And we don't buy tea in the store since September!

And we don't buy tea in the store since September!

How long have you been doing tea? I think that we need to harvest so much so that it is enough for a year)))

after taking a sample from the teas, the husband and son bought me a second electric meat grinder and a mini oven for the country.

Apparently the guys realized that this tea is tastier and healthier ??

is a medicine from the point of view of the Chinese

And from your point of view?)))