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lappl1
Quote: Radushka
Well, his smell is ordinary. Herbal. Sourish. While dry. The children are leaving tomorrow, and in the morning I’ll do it closely. I am thinking - either put to ferment overnight, or freeze until morning? Its a little bit at all. I see no point in sharing.
Radushka, do not freeze. It will perfectly process, it is very delicate. Cover with something and place in a cool place. And in the morning you will process it. You can also ferment overnight. What kind of tea will you make - loose or granulated? if granulated, then you can put it to ferment tomorrow for 3 - 5 hours. He turns out cool.
I am confused that the leaves are few. with a small volume, fermentation will be very weak.
Radushka
I'll put it in a beer glass. There will be as much as necessary.
lappl1
Radushka, good luck!
niamka
Ludmila, thanks for the answer. Dried for two hours at 100 degrees, during which time the tea was completely dry. The room is 22 degrees. At this temperature, the process for something did not go almost, I had to put it in a slightly heated oven. The layer was about 12 cm. Probably, the point is still that it is sheet. I'll try to make granular next time.
lappl1
Today's tea is 3 and 5 hours fermented. looks brighter from the flash. In fact, it is black:

Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class
niamka
Ludmila, beautiful! This is the ideal I strive for.
Marika33
Quote: lappl1
How will you do it?
Lyudochka, I'm sorry I didn't have time to answer, it was all about preparing tea.
I decided to prepare it in the same way as before it was prepared. We roll the rolls, then cut and dry in the dryer.
On Friday we dialed before noon, he wandered for 4 hours on the street, in the shade. And then until one in the morning we pulled off the leaves from the stems and rolled them into the reliquaries. They left for fermentation until the morning, the temperature at night was not high, in the morning it began to dry, it was hot inside, this is as usual during fermentation. The scent was on the whole street.
We had little Ivan's tea left unprocessed, we had no strength at night and we wrapped him in a tablecloth and left him outside until morning. In the morning they finished it and put it on fermentation. We have a fever for 30. For fermentation, 3-4 hours were enough at this temperature. I think that this time is enough for tender, May leaves. The bouquet of the scent is not transferable !!!
What Nastya wrote, I fully subscribe to her enthusiasm! Super tea, delicious and aromatic, completely different from summer.
There is absolutely no bitterness in it, it even tastes a little sweet, which does not correspond at all to factory tea, but at the same time it is drunk with pleasure and the taste is tea, only of the highest grade.
lappl1
Quote: niamka
Dried for two hours at 100 degrees, during which time the tea was completely dry. The room is 22 degrees. At this temperature, the process for something did not go almost, I had to put it in a slightly heated oven. The layer was about 12 cm. Probably, the point is still that it is sheet. I'll try to make granular next time.
niamka, Natalia, 22 * ​​- normal temperature. I have 18 *. I wrap up in blankets. During fermentation, the mass is self-heating and this heat is sufficient. But the temperature above 30 * can also stop fermentation.
A layer of 12 cm is too much. You need no more than 10. Did you put oppression? You need to put on a sheet. Granular - no. In general, a light color is not necessarily a bad tea. You need to leave it until the fall. He will definitely get better.
Marika33
Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class

Lyudochka, I have leaf tea, I do not like to pass raw materials through a meat grinder, I like to have leaves.
I dry in dryers at a temperature of 70 degrees, in Isidra 60.
The tea is dark when brewed.
lappl1
Quote: niamka
beautiful! This is the ideal I strive for.
niamka, Natalia, Thank you! In general, it's very simple. Easier than sheet. faster. You need to try to make this and compare it with a sheet.
lappl1
Marinochka, congratulations! You made a gorgeous tea! And it's good that we chose our own version of tea. Whoever is comfortable and what they like best.
I am also delighted with May! Quite different, I agree. The scent is crazy! The taste is incomparable!
Loksa
Marina, you have beautiful tea !!! Can I stick around? Can you take a picture of it in a transparent dish in the light? in a jar or a glass, but not a crystal? And also a photo of dry tea leaves, what color are they? Please, please, please. And I'll show you my tulips in the evening - such puffers!
lappl1
Quote: Loksa
Can you take a picture of it in a transparent dish in the light? in a jar or a glass, but not a crystal? And also a photo of dry tea leaves, what color are they?
Marinochka, I join Oksana's request. I also want to look at your dry tea.
And that's how it turns out - sheet, but also dark. So, things are in progress.
niamka
Quote: lappl1
niamka, Natalia, 22 * ​​- normal temperature. I have 18 *. I wrap up in blankets. During fermentation, the mass is self-heating and this heat is sufficient. But the temperature above 30 * can also stop fermentation.
A layer of 12 cm is too much. You need no more than 10. Did you put oppression? You need to put on a sheet. Granular - no. In general, a light color is not necessarily a bad tea. You need to leave it until the fall. He will definitely get better.
Ludmila, did not wrap it up with anything, forgot to put oppression This despite the fact that last year I did it once. In general, I thought the thicker the layer, the better. Live and learn. It's good that there is someone to ask. Thanks for the advice
lappl1
Natalia, nothing, the season has just begun! You will have time to make more correct tea. And this one will get better, you'll see.
Marika33
lappl1, Lyudochka, thank you very much!
The tea is simply unsurpassed in taste! We have something to compare with, there are all sorts of teas, super expensive, which our daughter brings us, and presents to her. But they look pale with our Ivan tea. So the unclaimed ones are.
Oh! it was necessary to see how two tea maniacs sit on the street at night and twist rolls. And then in the second hour we went home and tasted ready-made fresh tea from the first batch. All fatigue has passed, delight has come from such a magnificent taste of tea.
Marika33
Loksa, Oksana, a little later, while I'm here with raids.
By the way, about your pictures of very little Ivan tea.
I also tore a little like that, I want to say that it is not profitable to take them. After drying, only the top of the head remains, and it is not at all like the leaves. In my opinion, it is better to wait and tear off the meter or meter floor. With them, the output is good and not so laborious.
Loksa
Marina, girls, this is a photo of tea in the fields where I collected last year, and this is in the sun! But in the shade (I found it behind the barn), it is higher than 20-30 cm. Marina, I agree with you completely! We, of course, scored a little, which grew a little higher, but collecting quickly-broke and forward, and then peeling-cutting it off, it's very dreary. And I first cut off the leaves, and then the rosettes. Leaves are called leaves with a stretch. Weightless feathers, the stem breaks when they are cut off. FOOF I don't know how much I narwhal, I didn't weigh, but I was glad I didn't take more !!!
Omela
Put it to dry, girls, this is something !!! Dying! Such an aroma that you want to eat it !! Tomorrow I will run for a new batch. I have it only in one place, I looked in three more places, no.
Marika33
Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class

Girls, here's my already dried tea. I want to say that even after drying, the leaves are very - very thin compared to summer leaves, I can feel it with my hands. I store tea in three-liter jars, when pouring them into a jar, I act very carefully, crumble instantly.
Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class
This is brewed tea. I'm not a photographer, maybe the day would be better?

Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class
And this is used tea leaves.

Marika33
Quote: Loksa
a photo of dry tea leaves, what color are they?
Oksana, there are dark leaves, these are well-groaned, crumpled, and there are green ones that have avoided strong friction.
Quote: Omela
I'll run for a new batch tomorrow
Ksyusha, congratulations, the tea is incomparable! we have been drinking it for 5 years already. Tomorrow I also want to go and type it and I will roll it up with my hands, this can be done very easily from young leaves.
I just calculated, we have already dried 1.5 kg and there is still a little unfinished.
lappl1
Quote: marika33
In my opinion, it is better to wait and tear off the meter or meter floor. With them, the output is good and not so laborious.
Quote: Loksa
Weightless feathers, the stem breaks when they are cut off. FOOF I don't know how much I narwhal, I didn't weigh, but I was glad I didn't take more !!!
Girls, of course, young Ivan-tea is time consuming. Adult is the fastest of all teas. But the young one is worth doing. I do not mind this time. I'd rather not get an extra 2 hours sleep, but I will spend time on it.
Quote: marika33
I just calculated, we have already dried 1.5 kg and there is still a little unfinished.
And I already have about 2.5 kg of dry tea. Today I called my mother, she asked what I was doing. answered that tea. She says why do you need so much? I drink yours, which you handed over and sent. It's not over yet. I tell my mom that it’s not over because I’ve been doing it all summer.
Quote: Omela
Put it to dry, girls, this is something !!! Dying! Such an aroma that you want to eat it !!
Ksyusha, well, I was right about 3 hours? I am so glad, girls, that we have discovered the May Ivan tea.
lappl1
Quote: marika33
Girls, here's my already dried tea.
Marinochka, thanks for the pictures! Excellent tea in a transparent bowl. How many times do you brew the same tea?
Marika33
Luda, fresh on the photo, stood for about 10 minutes. And after three more times I pour it, it still insists very well. And does not turn sour. At the same time, I do not save the tea leaves, but the hand does not rise after the first fill, it is still tasty with the second and third fill.
Jouravl
lappl1, Luda! Now we are picking the leaves. There were 10 kg in two bags. If I leave them on the sheet to dry until the morning, is it long? The temperature in the apartment is 26 degrees. Need to cover them with a blanket? I take them out of the bag, and they are warm ..
Omela
Luda, I have nothing to compare with, this is my first time doing May. But the smell is incomparable, by the way it has already appeared at the stage of twisting. It smells like sweet perfume. It's a pity that I have very little time, I am leaving.
lappl1
Quote: Omela
I have nothing to compare with, this is my first time doing May.
Ksyusha, yes, I also do the May first rakh. The earliest when I started doing it was the end of May. And so, in June-July. June is also very good. But later - not the same. By the way, I also smell of some kind of perfume.
Quote: Jouravl
If I leave them on the sheet to dry until the morning, is it long?
Jouravl, Nadia, not long at all. They may not even have time to wither. And you don't need to cover with anything, especially with a blanket. It will then begin to ferment in the leaf. And this can affect the taste of the tea. Only a couple of times a night you need to get up and turn the leaves. otherwise they will not wither evenly.
Quote: Jouravl
Two bags contained 10 kg.
Is it in its pure form, without stems? Lot. where are you dying? For 10 kg, a large area is needed.
Jouravl
lappl1, I dry on the floor in the living room, on a huge sheet .. 10 kg with stems. My husband also told me not to throw out the stems. , but about twisted too, he felt sorry for his work, he collected .. I will experiment with the stems, they say a lot of vitamins .. I got in .. Since we have a lot of it grows in the field, I suggested opening a teahouse ...
francevna
Hope, and I propose to exchange teas, I don't have Ivan tea, but I have different fruit trees.
Jouravl
francevna, Yes, no question, if it works out, I'll send it.
Mistletoe, I can tell you the address in a personal note, it's not far from you, but you need to go by car ..
lappl1
Quote: Jouravl
My husband also told me not to throw out the stems. , but about twisted too, he felt sorry for his work, he collected ..
Jouravl, Hope, yes, I also feel sorry for the stems to throw out. they are now tender, should be easily twisted. But after all, they should also be withered, and they do not want to wither. They lie like fresh. And it's on the street. And from uncured raw materials, the tea will not be the same.And my husband is right - there are a lot of useful substances in the stems.
francevna
Ludmila, I haven’t held Ivan-tea in my hands yet, but I thought that maybe it’s better to cut the stems thinly with a knife so that less juice is released, fermented and dried separately from the leaves. Oh and dreamed ...
Jouravl
Ludmila, Luda, maybe they can be dried on a weak drying or spread out on a warm floor ??? And then according to the technology, scroll through a meat grinder and ferment, and then into drying ??
lappl1
Alla, the stems break easily. and the juice does not come from them. But they are plump, so they will dry out for a long time. I even wanted to turn on the dryer for this. but then I thought that the leaves were enough for me. But it's a pity to take out the stems every day. I put them in a greenhouse like mulch. they don't want to hang around there either.
lappl1
Quote: Jouravl
Luda, maybe they can be dried on a weak drying or spread out on a warm floor ??? And then according to the technology, scroll through a meat grinder and ferment, and then into drying ??
Hope, Alla just answered about the dryer. Who's thoughts agree? That's right, tea maniacs ,,, Nadia, of course, can be put on the warm floor. Better than a dryer. But I decided not to do it. I have enough leaves. But whoever has little fireweed, you can try. by the way, yesterday I chewed them - delicious - sweet. And the leaves are delicious now. in mid-June they will start to taste bitter.
francevna
Luda, sorry to waste such raw materials. I'd better not go into this topic ...
lappl1
Alla, and I'm sorry. What is there to do? Well, are the sons bringing Ivan tea?
francevna
I hope that next weekend my son will bring his granddaughter, and if it works out, then at least for a sample of willow tea leaves.
lappl1
Alla, let's hope it works out.
Jouravl
Ludmila, Luda and I tried the stems, I also liked it ... And today I also tried dried pine shoots - without bitterness, sour taste, unusual, I liked it .. And the tea maniac is my husband, I see he does everything himself ... So I went in , I feel for a long time ..
lappl1
Nadya, well, your husband and I will do well with you! Well done!
Quote: Jouravl
So I went in, I feel for a long time ..
Yes, voluntarily leaving here is difficult!
Loksa
Marina, Thanks for the photo! Tea with a red tint, it seemed to me. And the tea leaves are not of the same color, I understood everything! Marina, girls, look what tulips I managed to grow for the first time:

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natushka
Girls, and we will not exhaust all Ivan-tea like locusts? Regarding the remaining stems, what if you put them in a plastic bag for a short time (they heat up), then in the freezer, and then scroll and ferment? I wonder what will happen, it's a pity to throw it away, but I can't try to do it myself, I won't find it, but you need to know a place to go somewhere, and there is nothing
Jouravl
Good morning to all witches!
Yesterday, at night, I decided to shove the stems into the dryer, broke it as best I could and turned on the Ezidri at medium speed and went to sleep .. In the morning I looked, the stems were withered, became flexible, some thin ones broke when bent, removed them. The rest was scrolled in a meat grinder, covered with a wet towel and we set to ferment .. But there was still almost half left, now I decided to shove it into the freezer and continue about twisting ..
And the leaves will be ready soon .. I will also go through a meat grinder, I will not master them manually
Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class
Omela
Quote: Jouravl

Mistletoe, I can tell you the address in a personal note, it's not far from you, but you need to go by car ..
Of course I want!!!!
Jouravl
Quote: Omela

Of course I want!!!!
Tel in PM!
paramed1
natushka, do not worry, we will not get tired! It is perennial, with a large rhizome, creeping in different directions. It reproduces, of course, by self-sowing, but it is impossible to completely remove the entire plantation. And when collecting herbs, they are guided by the rule - to leave about 10-15 percent of the plants. And even from one Ivan tea plant, so many seeds will scatter! Collect, do not be afraid, a new one will grow!
lappl1
Quote: natushka
Girls, and we will not destroy all Ivan-tea like locusts? Regarding the remaining stems, what if you put them in a plastic bag for a short time (they heat up), then in the freezer, and then scroll and ferment? I wonder what will happen, it's a pity to throw it away, but I can't try to do it myself, I won't find it, but you need to know a place to go somewhere, and there is nothing
natushka, you, probably, do not read all messages? We talked about this in great detail on the previous pages and in the tea gazebo. We will not get rid of it, only the bush will be more magnificent in the same season. The main thing is to leave a 10 cm stem below and everything will be OK.
And they also talked about the stems on the previous page.
Quote: Jouravl
Yesterday, at night, I decided to shove the stems into the dryer
Nadia, we will all wait for the result of the experiment.
lappl1
Jouravl, Nadia, girls, Veronica in the next topic about stems said that there are no tannins. This means that tea cannot be fermented either.
Jouravl
lappl1, Luda, there are no tannins, but there are vitamins, minerals .. I think that if I get hay, in any case it will be better than the one that is drunk in bags at work, in offices ... But you need to read more, just don't have much time ...
When I twisted the stems, I noticed that mucus appears. This is the same for gastric diseases, is there a person who does not even suffer from a mild form of gastritis?

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