Masinen
Galina, here you are a happy owner of good plates)
Maybe you have coverage, which was the first, that's why everything is ok)

Usually not satisfied users usually write more than satisfied ones))
selenа
atrom, Rum, you are not a crooked plate that I took away from you, a really complete marriage (and this is putting it mildly), the breast that I tried to cook today on the plates taken from you stuck so that I thought the grill could not open, with mine with old plates, this has never happened. I have always been a defender and "praiser" of the 4.4 grill, but I have to admit that on my "native" plates the coating has swollen in three places (about the size of a pea 3 air bubbles), and if at first there was an idea to change them under warranty, now I'm in deep thought, new plates are useless at all
Natysik JJ
I wrote to Comfort maximum, sent photos, but so far no one has answered
Natysik JJ
Probably waiting for a new cover to send
Oira-oira
Quote: Masinen

When I was at the Steba factory, I told them that there was such a problem.
Therefore, we are waiting for new coverage from them.
I liked the look and feel they were going to apply. It is gray in color.
And how much money will we pay for these new plates? It's good that I didn't buy waffle makers for 4800, I just bought their own waffle iron. It turned out twice as cheap.
Masinen
Oira-oira, I can't say anything about money.
I don't sell equipment, I myself wonder what the price will be)
Oira-oira
Quote: Masinen

Oira-oira, I can't say anything about money.
I don't sell equipment, I myself wonder what the price will be)
For thanks, they will not change. Well, the sellers will try.
atrom
Oira-oira, I handed over the grill to ozone back, and the second plates that were sent to me from the Steba representative office selenаbut everything stuck to them. I would of course use the grill further, but I don't want to wait until they fix the coating. let it be corrected first and then it will be seen, but so far this manufacturer does not have confidence in the coverage.

Now I have been using Tefal GC3060 for a couple of weeks. Nothing sticks, deep grooves, because of this, the plates are more difficult to wash and the grill gets very hot - it just burns everything on the triple. So I cook on it no more than two. Sandwiches on one.
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Shtebovich
There are indeed problems with individual pieces of plates (in grills sold since about autumn 2014) and the Germans admit it, but to think that this is massive in nature is a deep misconception. Everyone who contacted about this problem had the plates changed. There were no more than 30 requests. Taking into account the total number of copies sold per year, the figure does not at all pull on a mass marriage. I think as soon as the production of plates with a new coating starts, we will launch a campaign to replace the defective plates with these new plates. Moreover, there is such an experience with Teflon bowls for a pressure cooker.
Oira-oira
Quote: S-t

I think as soon as the production of plates with a new coating starts, we will launch a campaign to replace the defective plates with these new plates. Moreover, there is such an experience with Teflon bowls for a pressure cooker.
It is wonderful. I managed to buy a grill on computerunivers exactly in the fall of 2014! Interestingly, they will change?
Masinen
Irina, I don’t think the action to replace the bowls and the future one to replace the plates is purely voluntary from the Comfort-Max company

S-t, thanks for the comment! This is the post everyone was waiting for)
spring
S-tIf you did not ask for a replacement, it does not mean that everything is great. I have a 95 model, bought in August 2013, everything began to stick to it almost immediately, I wrote about this in this thread.The same problem was discussed in other forums in 2013, so this problem has not been since 2014, but much earlier ...
spring
Quote: spring

Dear S-T, but you can buy plates for the 95th model, because of the quality of my family I rarely use the grill.
Here's my post back in 2014.
Shtebovich
Elena, we are talking about grills 4.4 and 4.3 with them difficulties after replacing the manufacturer of the coating in 2014. They could exchange / hand over their 95th back in 13, but they themselves refused.
spring
Yes, she refused, we repair the plastic fastener ourselves, we do it, I’ve contacted you about this, but I didn’t know what to change the sticky plates, so I wanted to buy a replacement, but it turned out to be so expensive that it was easier to replace the grill ... So it's not just a grill problem 4.4. Thank you, rarely a seller reacts so vividly to customer claims.
Cifra
Quote: atrom

Now I have been using Tefal GC3060 for a couple of weeks. Nothing sticks, deep grooves, because of this, the plates are more difficult to wash and the grill gets very hot - it just burns everything on the triple. So I cook on it no more than two. Sandwiches on one.
There really is good coverage. When I am very lazy, I wash it in the dishwasher with gel. For more than six months of frequent use without any problems at all.
Kara
Quote: S-t

I think as soon as the production of plates with a new coating starts, we will launch a campaign to replace the defective plates with these new plates. Moreover, there is such an experience with Teflon bowls for a pressure cooker.

That is, you can not throw away the grill for now?
Shtebovich
Of course not, it will still come in handy.
Kara
This is what a grilled fish looks like.
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I cut the fish into pieces, poured it with olive oil in a bowl, smeared all the pieces with this oil properly, put it on the grill, which was also previously greased with olive oil. To make it clear, pieces of fish were torn in half lengthwise, so stuck !!
Here's the result!

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But the grilled fish (all that I could tear off)

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How to feed your husband with this?

Now cool these fucking panels and throw them out to hell in the trash!
Natalia K.
Quote: Kara
Here's the result!
Irina, the result is very sad Damn and there is nothing to say
Oira-oira
Irina, I have the same thing. Zucchini and potatoes torn in half look even cooler
mur_myau
And I smear canola with oil. Or just the panels are good. And I don't use marinades. I made salmon steaks a week ago, everything is well behind the coating.

Where can I find out exactly when the grill was launched? Is this information on the box? The hunt became aware when my panels were released, and the grill.
zhariks
Quote: S-t
Elena, we are talking about grills 4.4 and 4.3, difficulties with them went after replacing the manufacturer of the coating in 2014. They could exchange / hand over their 95th in 13, but they themselves refused.
Why only about them? I, too, cover 95 (though so far only at the edges) in pieces. This despite the fact that I use the grill once every few months. Well, their non-stick properties were initially very mediocre.
spring
Here I am about it! It's sad!
NatalyMur
Kara, looks sad, or maybe it is harder to preheat the grill, and then put the fish?
Mihailina
I, too, began to stick to the grill ... I did not use marinades ... I thought that this problem would not affect me, I tried to wash it very carefully with a soft sponge ... but alas ... Shtebik is a little over a month old (((
Vaneska
Mine is over a year old, it began to stick almost immediately, and soon the plates turned white. Now I use it very rarely, because I have no strength to wash it. Trust in the brand is undermined, I will not buy anything else from them and I will not advise others
NatalyMur
Quote: Vaneska
Trust in the brand is undermined, I will not buy anything from them and I will not advise others
Why so immediately ...
I have a pressure cooker shteba, a vacuum cleaner for their wives, I'm not overjoyed!
My grill is different - BBK, but it also often sticks. At first I try to warm it up harder and it seems like it turns out better.
Vaneska
Natalia, well, it's just that you were lucky, and I got burned a couple of times, I don't want to take any more risks. I don’t like to store bad things. The technique should work and facilitate work, and not cause negative emotions and disappointment.And as for the manufacturer, so their sea, now I choose wisely
Kara
Quote: NatalyMur

Kara, looks sad, or maybe it is harder to preheat the grill, and then put the fish?

Natalya, can it be otherwise? I heat it up for 4 minutes 10, then I put the fish.
marlanca
Kara,
Ir well, tin finally ..... ..... And this is already on the interchangeable panels so?
NatalyMur
Quote: Kara
Natalya, can it be otherwise?
I put and just heated
And the power of my grill is 1300 watts. Yes, uh ... it means there really is a problem in the quality of the plates ...
Kara
Quote: marlanca

Kara,
Ir well, tin finally ..... ..... And this is already on the interchangeable panels so?

Uh-huh
marlanca
Kara,
Mdaaaa, very good sorry .... ..... My husband and I are now alone, so I cook more and more at Tefalevsky, he is smaller, the old man is already 9 years old, but after this period everything flies off him with a bang !!! I take out the shteba less often, only when the children come, and I need to make a larger portion, but I did not seem to observe such problems, it happens that the piece sticks to the upper panel, you pick it up with a silicone spatula and everything is O.K ... I want to hope that Shteba will get better everyone, after so many questions, will find a worthy coating manufacturer ...
| Alexandra |
Girls, advise me pzhl, what kind of grill can be suitable for making cutlets? There is no time to read everything, it would have been a long time to buy. In general, I looked at Shteba, although she was offended for problems with the oven, now Tefal looked after the oven with the mode ...
Masinen
Sasha, for cutlets see grill with lid, VG200 or smaller VG120.
What happened to the oven?
| Alexandra |
Mash, thanks, I'll take a look now. In the oven, the bottom is not baked when the top is completely ready, and the convection works so that you have to turn the baking sheet.
dopleta
Quote: | Alexandra |
what kind of grill can be suitable for making cutlets?
Sasha, is it exactly what you want Shtebu? And then there are others with replaceable panels: for cutlets / muffins / pies, for omelet, for grilling and for pizza.
Masinen
Why didn't you contact the service? Or S-t would write.
It means that something is wrong with the stove, if there is convection, the bottom is not baked.

The vG 200 is a great grill, but large, removable panel.
We have a topic about him

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=425634.0
| Alexandra |
Larisochka, I doubt that Shtebu, if these models also have problematic coverage, I would just look at others. Masha, the only thing that leaves my bearskin corner for the service is something that has completely broken down, and even then more often she just throws herself into the attic ...
Masinen
Sasha, the vg200 has excellent coverage.
And the fact that complaints go to 4.4, then there are not so many of them)
That nobody is going to St. Petersburg? If I ordered with a courier at Ozone, the courier will pick it up and they will check it and, if anything, return the money.
dopleta
Quote: | Alexandra |
from my bear corner
Are you talking about our city ?!
| Alexandra |
No, of course, I'm only registered in St. Petersburg, but I live on a farm 100 km to the south. True, I just bought a piece of St. Petersburg land to move, but it will have to be changed because of geophysics (it's a pity that it cannot be used for service - it's a very worthy piece) ...
| Alexandra |
Larissa, what do you recommend for cutlets-pies-omelettes? Masha, we go by car, and I myself more often, we just always have a lot of other things to do. And in general we are unlucky - we have New Year's bulbs on the 2nd floor still dangling ...
Masinen
Sasha, I think Larisa meant the Princess stove)
Cifra
Do you need a special grill for cutlets?
I'm on a regular fry. True, my cutlets are just chopped meat, sometimes beaten off. From additives only salt and pepper.
| Alexandra |
So I also read, for example, about Tefal 306012 - and the cutlets in it are real, and something else.
Cifra
| Alexandra |, flat patties such as those for hamburgers can be made in any grill.
| Alexandra |
Clearly, flat suits me perfectly.
Vasya Fufaikin
Well, my epic with Steba GP 3S finally ended. They returned the money to me for it, and what do you think I bought ??? Again her. Today I have already taken it, everything. Thank God it works. Bought today: 2 veal steaks, zucchini, chicken wings, mushrooms. Fried everything. What can I tell you. The grill is super !!! Glass ceramics is far from Teflon. Metal blades, metal scraper, nothing is scratched and the maximum temperature is 275 degrees. The steak was fried 4 cm thick. Everything was fried, great crust. You don't need to scrub anything in the bathroom or sink. I cleaned it with a metal scraper, and then with a damp cloth, and everything sparkles. Nothing sticks to the glass, there is no non-stick coating. I advise everyone!!! Now I will post pictures.

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