atrom
I rent my grill, changed the panels, but after a week everything started to stick to them again. I'll hand it over to ozone with old panels, the ones that were sent to me I can give the thread to someone for experiments, since they didn't seem to be asked back. On these panels the coating is intact but everything sticks to the side of the grill. I don’t know about the waffles. On past panels, waffles also stuck after a week, although I only cooked on them a couple of times. Who will take it, promise to let you know what is wrong with them and whether it also sticks to yours, maybe I'm not cooking my hands properly. Video how I cook incorrectly I attach
Lisichkalal
the staff will send me new panels
the day before yesterday I cooked with the old ones, it was dark in the garden and only yesterday afternoon I noticed that the plastic of the grill had melted a little. Due to the fact that 1 panel was deformed and, apparently, touched the plastic (but I did not notice in the dark.
So I threw out these panels already.
In general, it is strange that such a deformation has gone.
Lisichkalal
And I didn't see anything terrible in the video. In my opinion, they just started to open the grill early. If I open it right there, then I have a little stuck. And if I bring it almost to readiness, then everything is ok.
atrom
Lisichkalal, firstly, immediately after the purchase, this was not, and this is still not strong, on the first panels it was worse, here it was just beginning to stick. Secondly, how to cook fish, beef cutlets and other delicate products? it will simply tear them apart. In the third, there is no such problem, for example, in the grill tefal, which is already 5 years old, and on a cast-iron frying pan, a grill without a non-stick coating does not stick at all. There is no difference from what I will open sooner or later, the result is the same: either the cutlet, the fish breaks, or the food has to be torn off the top panel.
Electric grills contact Steba
Natysik JJ
My grill came to me, after I got through to the Internet migazin, then they called back, told the invoice number in the shopping center, and called back when the grill arrived in Khabarovsk. I haven't tried it yet, but I see there are a lot of problems with the plates.
Vasya Fufaikin
Hello everybody!!! Need advice from experienced about the Steba VG 200 grill. Nowhere on the internet can I find the maximum heating temperature. The owners of this device are very interested. I would like to hear their opinion about this model. She is one of the most powerful of this brand, even more powerful than 4.4. I'm going to grill vegetables, fish, meat, chicken and shrimp. After reading the whole topic, I realized that I don't need a contact grill, although I looked at 95 and 4.4.
To be honest, I don't understand how such an expensive brand can have such problems with non-stick coating. As far as I know, the cheapest and most primitive grills do not have such problems. Thank you in advance for your help !!!
Masinen
Vasya Fufaikin, VG200 maximum temperature 230 g
The grill 4.4 has a temperature of 250 g.
Vasya Fufaikin
Masinen
Thank you so much!!! Couldn't find it anywhere. Today I read and reviewed all kinds of grills for half the night. I am already considering the Steba GP 3 S model for purchase. Looks stylish, high temperature up to 275 gr. It is very easy to clean, there is no non-stick coating, you can cut on it with a knife, and to all, good dimensions of the frying surface. What can you tell me ??? Has anyone had any experience of using such grills ???
Masinen
The higher the temperature, the better. The meat is sealed and the juice remains inside.
Does this grill have a stone or a cast iron plate?
As far as I know, no one has such a grill on the forum.

Everything, I watched the video, he has an iron plate.
On not. We'll have to turn the meat over. It's like a restaurant grill, open.
I think that's a great option.
The plate seems to be removed.
Vasya Fufaikin
This is a glass ceramic panel.
Here is a video of exactly the same grill, only of a different brand. The frying plate cannot be removed. There is no need to remove it.
vernisag
Quote: Masinen
I think that's a great option.
But I don't understand such grills, it seems to me better than the contact one, which fries from both sides at once, otherwise you can fry in a frying pan
Masinen
Vasya Fufaikin, if you don't need to wash, then it's generally good. Wipe it and walk boldly))
Irina, these grills are used in cafes.
Vasya Fufaikin
vernisag
All the most expensive restaurants in the world prepare food ONLY, I emphasize ONLY on barbecue grills. And in Japan, the last squeak has long been, in restaurants, the grill is installed right on your table, and you yourself prepare your own food.
Electric grills contact Steba
Vasya Fufaikin
I made an order in the store, while silence ...
selenа
vernisag, Irish, I don't understand either, the barbecue turns out if you spread a large area of ​​4.4 to the stem, our products are not Japanese, we don't have freshly caught seafood, but pork and on the contact Vasya, of course it looks very stylish, and if there was also a saucepan on it with a frying pan could have been put, then the price would not have been there, he’s stationary, you don’t run around to clean it up, I was "sick" with LeMax two years ago, but I recovered
Vasya Fufaikin
selenа
I forgot to say that you can put a saucepan and a frying pan on it, but I don't see the point in this. I have a gas stove at home, and cooking on it is much more pleasant and faster. Lemax is a very good technique !!! But honey ...
The point of grilling is to fry without oil, and to instantly seal the product at a high temperature. In a cast-iron pan you can, it heats up to 300 degrees, but only with oil. Here and immediately chagrin ...
selenа
Quote: Vasya Fufaikin
Lemax is a very good technique !!! But honey ...
And it appeared earlier, I do not have a stove, I get by with several tiles, induction, halogen, cast iron, but they all sin with a small heating diameter, but I want it from 30 cm and more, that's why I looked at LeMax, but the price even then (before the price rise dollar) was "Mama Don't Cry", but where did you order it? even I did not find it (grill) in Russia and how much it costs (if not a secret).
Vasya Fufaikin
selenа
I live in Ukraine. Now I called the store, the order has not been confirmed yet, they said they would inform a little later. The price is approximately $ 200. We have not seen LeMax on sale.
Mirabel
Vasya FufaikinDo you also want to make such "parties" with this grill?
It seems to me that this is very cumbersome for the house, personally I like raclette girls more for such purposes.
Vasya Fufaikin
Mirabel
Nah, I take it for myself and my wife.It is not very large in size, Dimensions: 65x630x370 mm
selenа
Vasya Fufaikin, the store did not call
Mirabel
Quote: Vasya Fufaikin
The price is approximately $ 200.
How many???!!!
We have the ones that cost 70 euros with the Shteba lid.
Me, too, something very much worries about this grill ...: girl-th: ok .. not yet before it.
Vasya Fufaikin
selenа
Finally called back. They promised to deliver it on Wednesday.
selenа
Vasya Fufaikin, We are waiting for impressions please unsubscribe
Vasya Fufaikin
Mirabel
In Ukraine, a Steba VG 200 with a lid costs about $ 120.
STEBA FG 95 approx. 160 USD
STEBA PG 4.4 approx. USD 235
Vasya Fufaikin
selenа
Well, of course!!! I will be your first king with such a grill !!! Electric grills contact Steba
selenа
Vasya Fufaikin
I think it will be in the subject! The restaurant is certainly not expensive, but everything looks delicious !!!
Vasya Fufaikin
Mirabel
In Europe, my model in the cheapest internet store costs 170 euros, and they sell you up to 240 euros. My grill is almost twice as expensive in your country of origin as compared to Steba 4.4
And in Ukraine the opposite is true, 4.4 to 35 dollars. dearer than mine. It’s strange why they raised our price by 4.4 ...
Mirabel
Vasya FufaikinWell, let's be more precise then ... although no one needs it .. what model are we talking about?
what do we compare? once again .. well, just for the sake of interest, sound pliz .. the model and the price are next to you.
Vasya Fufaikin
Mirabel
So I already wrote everything
Mirabel
Vasya Fufaikin, sorry ... I saw it and looked at the German Amazon for interest. Well, the difference is palpable, not in your favor .. especially 4.4
But you have a lot of interesting things and much cheaper than here .. so the balance is probably
Vasya Fufaikin
Mirabel
Agree, something strange.
You have 4.4 in my opinion 94 euros, and STEBA GP 3 - 170 euros.
Our 4.4 costs 235 dollars, and STEBA GP 3 - 200 dollars.
It turns out that the price in Ukraine was unrealistically raised by 4.4.
Mirabel
Vasya Fufaikin, so the traders .. what they want and do ...
Vasya Fufaikin
Mirabel
Then I think they overdid it ...
Suliko
In a German store, according to reviews in 4.4, the plates are peeling, 95 are praised ... the head is already spinning ... wafer plates are certainly not needed, and the Germans do not have them now.
How are you doing with coverage at 95? That I like him better
ikom
So I got plates in 4.3 I cooked in it 10 times in total ... And the most offensive is that a year after the purchase it just lay with me, there is no guarantee
mur_myau
I'm still alive, grill 4.4, I bought it before NG, I actively use it.
But! I do not use marinades, except perhaps for adjika, I always lightly smear the steaks with canola oil or olive oil, and I don’t open earlier than the prescribed time. Mine only with a soft sponge, and only a household. soap.

I noticed that it sticks with marinades more often, once the burns were barely soaked, so I stopped abusing. I remember that marinades with sugar and honey were especially fried.
Masinen
Quote: Suliko

In a German store, according to reviews in 4.4, the plates are peeling, 95 are praised ... the head is already spinning ... wafer plates are certainly not needed, and the Germans do not have them now.
How are you doing with coverage at 95? That I like him better
On the 95 grill, the coating does not peel off.
Kara
And I'm about to send my 4.4 to the trash. If you remember, I have already changed the plates once. The new ones have lived well, on the strength of 10 times of use. At first, the surface was covered with some strange bloom, which can not be washed off with a sponge or detergent, but if you start rubbing with your finger, it rolls into such disgusting dirt, similar to fuel oil. And then the coating began to swell as well as on first plates

The only marinade I use is salt / pepper.

I won't change anything anymore, I'm tired. I'll leave this bandura for the waffles.
Suliko
ikom, Elena, Maria, Irina, thanks for the information!
kVipoint
Quote: mur_myau
I'm still alive, grill 4.4, I bought it before NG, I actively use it.
I have been using it since November))) it seems normal, I always grease the surface with sunflower oil, but I often use it for frying vegetables than meat
gala10
And I have 4.4 for almost 2 years, plowing quite often. No pickles! I grease with olive oil. Me and Fary. The plates are in perfect condition.
Suliko
Galina, apparently as you run into, did not risk it
Vasya Fufaikin
Tomorrow they promise to bring my fashionable Steba with glass ceramics. How do I get it?
Vasya Fufaikin
They brought it today, I didn't notice right away, only one heating element is heating. Tomorrow I'll go swing with the supplier. So much for the German quality. My grill is assembled in Germany. I'm shocked by this build quality ...
selenа
Vasya Fufaikin, but the general impression, sensations, size, convenience of Vasya's location, well, more emotions, how he looks in the kitchen
Vasya Fufaikin
Yes, I was completely upset. Tomorrow I'll have to swear 100%, so it's hard for me now with emotions. All in all, a pretty and stylish grill. The rest did not have time to try. Bought some vegetables in the afternoon, bought two veal steaks, wanted to have dinner with my wife and try the grill. It all ended with a frying pan. By the way, the size is not that big, he thought it was huge.
Mirabel
Vasya Fufaikin, Dont be upset! Is it possible to return it?
Vasya Fufaikin
I'll try tomorrow.

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