Shtebovich
Quote: Vasya Fufaikin

My grill is assembled in Germany. I'm shocked by this build quality ...

In Germany, only PG 4.4, 4.3 are collected
Vasya Fufaikin
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Shtebovich
The style code is related only to the manufacturer (customer, brand owner) and does not indicate the country of production at all.
Vasya Fufaikin
Since 2013, according to the WTO law, ONLY the code of the country where the product is produced is set on the packaging. Until 2013, it was possible to put a customer code. I am engaged in production and I am an importer, therefore I have information. Our product, which was developed in Russia, but produced under a contract at an Italian plant, HAS BEEN FORCED to change the code from Russian to Italian on all packaging. Contradicts the WTO laws. So that's it.
Shtebovich
Check out the packaging from your phone. Korean barcode (88) for Samsung, Swedish (73) for SONY Xperia, Finnish (64) for Nokia perfectly adjoins next to the inscription made in China. Not otherwise a massive conspiracy of the WTO members.
Vasya Fufaikin
Everything is extremely simple:
It is not uncommon to see an inscription on a product, for example, "Made in Holland", but the code on the label does not correspond to this country. There may be several reasons for this. First: the company was registered and received a code not in its own country, but in the one where the main export of its products was directed. Second: the product was manufactured at a subsidiary. Third: the product may have been manufactured in one country, but under the license of a firm from another country. And finally, the fourth, when several firms from different countries become founders of the enterprise.

There is no sign anywhere on my grill that it is made in China.
Masinen
Vasya Fufaikin, I was at the Steba factory in Germany. I can say that I have not seen the model of the grill you bought.
They only make 4.4 / 4.3, and all other grills in China are under the control of Shteba.
mur_myau
Found a book about hamburgers. Old, translated.
Today I made them on staff 4.4. Shaped in a special shape for a hamburger, and let it lie on the grill. Minced meat (twisted through a blender not very finely). I cooked in the "grill party" mode on an open grill.
Divine.
And nothing stuck.

The striped ones turned out beautiful, but on a flat plate they liked more.
nastasiya_13
Luckyfer, Good day! please tell me how your issue with the electric grill was solved, after 2 weeks of use, both plates began to stick to me, now I don't know what to do ... thanks
Enchanted
Excuse me, what's the difference where the grill is made, in Germany or China? For example 4.4, although the coating is made in Germany for most plates with defects. This is what stopped me from buying Shteba. I am from Kazakhstan, we do not sell this brand, but I would find ways to buy. Now Ozone delivers to us. But what if the coating starts to peel off?
As a result, I bought a grill of another brand, albeit not so beautiful, but I did not meet a single complaint about the peeling coating. For me, even if it is done in China, it should be of high quality.
Vasya Fufaikin
Enchanted
My advice to you !!! Don't buy these Teflon coated grills. Or buy a grill with a cast iron or glass ceramic surface. No marinades will ever spoil their frying surface. And all these teflons are child's play. If I buy Teflon pans, then a maximum of 2 years. If you have the opportunity to buy a grill every 2 years at best, and statistics show that Teflon flies off on grills much earlier than on frying pans,then I already think it's better to buy a cast iron grill once and your head won't hurt until the end of your life, children will also use these grills from all professional chefs, or buy yourself a smut and count until their death every day. Everyone chooses from their capabilities.
Enchanted
Vasya Fufaikin,
Glass ceramics will not give such an effect in stripes like a contact grill))) And to wash glass ceramics ... dear mom. As not mine, it is still not completely cleared.
On my grill, the manufacturer indicated a 2 year lifespan. In 2 years, something new may appear))) We need to look for good cast iron in Kazakhstan, basically all of China, their products also have a short service life.
And then, on the contrary, I always liked the minimum of marinade in meat products, I prefer a little olive oil, a little spices, I can use a small onion. Then I clean everything and fry it. The salt is already on the plate. In a contact grill, some stripes are worth something)))))

By the way, there are large contact grills with cast iron grates. But I don't have a place for this)))
Vasya Fufaikin
Enchanted
Do you need stripes or delicious fried foods ??? Are you laughing about the washing of glass ceramics, just don't know or are you kidding ??? If you do not know what glass ceramics is, I can throw off the video. ALL teflon-coated grills, regardless of the manufacturer FULL ARIES !!! If you want a high-quality grill, then it is ONLY either glass ceramics or cast iron. I thought everyone here knew that. It seems like a reputable forum. My Steba glass-ceramic grill is almost 2 times more expensive than the coolest Teflon-coated Steba 4.4 grill made in Germany. If you are interested I can drop the German prices.
Masinen
Vasya Fufaikin, so no one argues that Teflon is not durable)
It's just that many people want exactly the contact grill)
I would be interested to try cooking on your glass-ceramic)
mur_myau
Quote: Vasya Fufaikin
ALL teflon-coated grills, regardless of the manufacturer FULL ARIES !!! If you want a high-quality grill, then this is ONLY either glass ceramics or cast iron. I thought everyone here knew that.
Well, let's say people know.
And the theme was created just to help in choosing a model. Someone will take AP coating, someone SK, someone cast iron.

Here I have a Finnish Hackmann frying pan, cast iron, but it only works on gas, heat it up for a long time, then wash it, dry it, treat it from rust. In general, a toy for one or two pieces of steak, and then cool and wash.

And Shteba 4.4 is for a grill party, and for waffles, and for chicken tobacco, and for steaks. Something will fry or grease will accumulate - carried out with a damp cloth clean, then you can download something else. The fat does not drain into the hollows between the ribs, but into the drain (and it accumulates in the pan right there and starts to burn). And what about the fact that Teflon. So nothing lasts forever. I bought it knowing that you can order replacement plates. And it is convenient to wash when the plates are removable.

There is also grill gas, there are also pros and cons. Better to cook barbecue or something lumpy.
While steak and flat fish are better on a grill pan or contact grill 4.4.

Something like this.

I won't say anything about glass ceramics, but plates with such a surface are difficult to clean. Abrasives are not allowed, special paddle and gel, and tremble over the coating in the same way as over Teflon ??? I do not know.
Unless, higher temperatures are possible and ceramics are more environmentally friendly. And the size of your model is also pleasing.

You can argue for a long time which is better
who is longer and more



Still, I hope you will exchange it successfully and we will read the report.
Vasya Fufaikin
mur_myau
Glass ceramics are the most practical. It is simply cleaned with a perfect metal scraper, which is included, then with a damp cloth and that's it !!! I only chose from this option. The stove is made at a slight slope, so all the fat flows into a separately attached tray, the fat does not burn there like in other grills, where the tray is located under the heating element. Cast iron grills are more expensive than glass ceramic ones, but they are usually very professional.
Enchanted
Quote: Vasya Fufaikin

Enchanted
Do you need stripes or delicious fried foods ???
And in your opinion it is incompatible? The products are tasty and with stripes. Personally, my grill suits me completely.

Quote: Vasya Fufaikin

Are you laughing about the washing of glass ceramics, just don't know or are you kidding ???
No, I'm serious. For example, a glass-ceramic stove, if something leaked on it during the cooking process, will never be completely washed off. Even if you try to clean it with super means.

I watched the video, I don't know how Shteba fries, but personally, this video did not inspire me.

In another commercial, everything is beautiful and wonderful, which I can hardly believe.


My opinion about a glass-ceramic grill is that even if at first nothing will stick and everything will be perfectly washed out, it is not a fact that it will remain unchanged for a long time. In my opinion, a contact grill with Teflon is somehow closer to people, or something. Glass-ceramic grills are not yet entirely known to the people. Here people will master, unsubscribe, and maybe in a couple of years I will buy one. In the meantime, I will be happy to use the grill that I have, and enjoy the food cooked on it.

Why don't you buy yourself a cast iron one? I read Weber's grills with cast-iron gratings, reliable, durable, but unfortunately there is no place for this in my apartment.
mur_myau
Vasya Fufaikin,
Well, you don't have to prove anything to me. In fact, I don't have such a grill, and you haven't even really tested yours.
We will break our spears when we have something to say about the fact of more or less prolonged use. (Read - we are waiting for the exchange of the grill and real results).
In the meantime, I see only commercials and the fact that you are firmly convinced that you are right. Although everything in our world is relative.

Enchanted,
I also like stripes. One does not interfere.
You know, I saw such worn-out SC stoves at my friends that mom don't worry! Although they cleaned according to all the rules. The only exception is IC with induction heating, that's where I really ran it with a cloth and everything shines like new.
Vasya Fufaikin
Enchanted
And who told you that the glass-ceramic panel is not washed ??? At the moment, cleaning glass ceramics is at an unattainable level among grills with Teflon and even cast iron, which requires oil. Grills with cast iron surfaces are more unpretentious and durable, they are not afraid of mechanical damage, therefore they are used on prof. level. I do not buy a cast iron grill because I want to cook without oil, but a cast iron grill requires processing with oil. This is the only reason. And about glass ceramics, don't listen to anyone. As for cleaning the surface, nothing has been invented in the world yet, the main thing is not to drop an ax on it.
selenа
And they say sugar if it burns, then do not clean it, but add sugar and honey to marinades, but I think in grills of a different quality glass-ceramics compared to a stove, and so why do you need a grill, fry right on the SC panel
Vasya Fufaikin
mur_myau
I managed to fry vegetables on my grill twice. Therefore, I perfectly understood how it is cleaned. I'm not going to prove anything, I thought everyone in the world already knew that glass ceramics is still considered the most ideal frying surface, another thing is to be careful and not drop hammers and axes on it. of course, unfortunately, there will be no stripes, but you will not have to soak removable panels from 4.4 in the bathroom, because they do not fit in the sink. And glass ceramics does not have any coatings that provoke cancer cells, there are numerous such articles on the Internet about Teflon coating, just shock-resistant glass and that's it.
Enchanted
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Enchanted
And who told you that the glass-ceramic panel is not washed ???
Gossaddy! Why are you stuck or something !?
Nobody told me this, I judge by my glass-ceramic plate, which looks like a devil. Than I just didn’t try to wipe it off, one figs still remain. And how I treated her carefully! Elementary boiled water leaves traces, even wipe them right away, even after.

I will put it this way, glass-ceramic plates are also short-lived, due to their quick fading. And if their appearance is important so that people do not think that you are an asshole, although you are cleaning the stove in the sweat of your brow, then even if they are still working, they will have to be changed once every 2 - 3 years, and then they become more terrible than atomic war.

Didn't understand about cast iron, what kind of oil is needed to use it? Real cast iron is so valuable that it is enough to lubricate it several times after purchase, ignite it and you can use this dish without oil. And if with oil, nafig need such cast iron? I'd rather change Teflon every 2 years
Vasya Fufaikin
selenа
You cannot fry on an SC stove, there is a small frying surface and the temperature is very high. The infrared heating system in the stove and grill is different in design. Throw sugar on the SC grill as much as you like. It will turn into charcoal, which is cleaned by scrapers without problems in seconds. Even on modern SC grills, you can throw ice, before it was impossible, the panel cracked. No problem now.
selenа
There are professional contact grills SC for example this: PRESS GRILL GASTRORAG / NPL-EC-2/133 (1), this is equipment for public catering, I do not think that there are SC as on our hobs
selenа
Vasya, I don’t argue, I understand that different glass ceramics for the grill and for the hob
Vasya Fufaikin
Enchanted
And why did you decide what stuck me ??? My friends have many SC stoves and for many years now they have no such problems. I myself would have bought gas for myself, and I like to cook on it more, well, let's say much faster. As for the durability, only the infrared heating element can burn out there, which is easily replaced, unlike the frying panels, which for some reason Shteba does not sell. How strange to me. This amount of burnt teflon and the lack of sale of these panels, it looks strange, don't you think ???
With regard to cast iron: be sure to lubricate with oil. And always. I got acquainted with a cast iron grill in Turkey, where it works for wear and tear. I met the grill chefs at the hotel and they let me into the kitchen and taught me how to fry. It does not work without oil. If these are steaks, then they are greased with olive oil on both sides, if these are vegetables, then a little grill is greased.
selenа
Quote: Vasya Fufaikin
which Shteba for some reason does not sell
They sell, expensive, 2400 pieces, I saw it for the last time, they promise a new cover by the fall, I love my 4.4
Masinen
Vasya Fufaikin, so I'm still waiting for a full report on the grill, I wonder)
nastasiya_13
Selena, please tell me, how long have you had this grill? no complaints? I have 2 weeks. and the food began to stick: girl_cray: I don't know what to do
Vasya Fufaikin
selenа
It's high time to sell them. But the price is something prohibitive. Based on the heading, one panel is approx. $ 50 Cool though.
Vasya Fufaikin
nastasiya_13
You will most likely have to change the frying panels. As far as I understood, the pleasure is not cheap.
Vasya Fufaikin
Masinen
Yes, there is nothing to write yet. I handed it over to the service center, tomorrow they should issue a conclusion on the malfunction. Then with this conclusion to the store, and there you have to fight, however, as always and everywhere with us.
I managed to fry vegetables twice in the office. But at home one ten was burned when I decided to fry the steaks. It is easy to clean with a scraper afterwards.
nastasiya_13
Vasya Fufaikin, do you think this is not a warranty case? he is only 2 weeks old ((((
Vasya Fufaikin
nastasiya_13
I think first you need to try to contact the service center, let them conclude that the Teflon coating is of poor quality.
Masinen
nastasiya_13, you need to contact the Tula where you bought it.
Natysik JJ
And I have, already on the plates, in two places Teflon peeled off, small specks, but I cooked on it 5 times. I expected, of course, that it could peel off, but not five times later. I took the maximum comfort in the online store. After reading the reviews, I washed it carefully, soaked it, smeared it with olive oil only. Can I cook now? Or is it harmful already?
Masinen
Natalia, if there are already peeling spots, then it is better not to cook.
Contact the Comfort-Max store.
Natysik JJ
Thanks for the advice. I wrote, took a picture of the plate and the warranty card. Upset of course. I thought the plates would last longer, but such a thin Teflon coating.
Kara
Natalia, during the time of using the 4.4 grill I re-read a bunch of reviews about it (not only on this forum), and so the general opinion is that the first models released were ideal, they still serve their owners, and those that were released during last year are no good. I have already changed two panels, the result is the same, the panels fail after a maximum of 10 uses. Coating quality - none! I don’t understand why Steba spoils its image with these grills. Other product of this brand is wonderful
Suliko
Irina, I ordered a bunch of everything on the German website, including the grill 95. Shtebu 4.4 was afraid to order because of the cover. Now I think that maybe it would be better to order tefal, there is a cool model with readiness sensors.
Only egg and sandwich maker is from the stem. Before the forum, I did not know about the existence of steba.

Masinen
Ella.95 grill is good. The coating is resistant and does not peel off.
Suliko
Maria, Thank you! Calmed down, I'm waiting for an order
Masinen
Ella, everything will be fine! The main calmness))
Oira-oira
Eh ... shteomaniya has led to the fact that at the moment I have a DD2 multicooker, oven, grill 4.4 and a sandwich maker 35. Everything is fine with the pan - it plows, the oven too, but the coating of the grill and the sandwich maker leaves much to be desired. I bought them from a German site. Teflon hasn't peeled off yet, but everything sticks, especially to the grill. And he doesn't give a damn about oil - everything burns to the surface. Without fat at all, vegetables are a nightmare - they stratify exactly in half. I scrape off the top and bottom surfaces. For some reason he turned white. The sandwich maker is better, but I only make waffles on it.

Bad coverage, whatever one may say.
Vasya Fufaikin
Yes, Shteba is not the same ...
atrom
Yeah, I thought I was one crooked or had no luck with the panels 2 times. After a week of daily use, everything sticks too. The manufacturer made a surprised face like this is a rarity. But judging by the forum, I'm not the only one. Well at least they do not refuse to replace or return. I gave my second plates to experiments until I said how they were. But I think that the problem is really in the plates
Oira-oira
How did you manage to give them to the manufacturer?
Masinen
When I was at the Shteba factory, I told them that there was such a problem.
Therefore, we are waiting for new coverage from them.
I liked the look and feel they were going to apply. It is gray in color.
gala10
It seems that only I have the perfect coverage. Nothing peels off, nothing sticks. Almost two years, and as good as new. And since Mashenka taught to use only olive oil to lubricate the panels, they are also perfectly clean.
Or maybe only those who have problems with coverage, and who is fine, silently use and enjoy life, write?
Kara
Tick, that's just the point, that your grill is 2 (!) Years old

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