Ksusha
Quote: Sonadora
There are also three of us and we also eat little, as it seemed before the purchase of PMM,
This is what I am trying to explain to people :-)
cake machine
Hello girls and boys, your advice is needed. I was going to go to the store for a dishwasher. The question arose, how does the furniture react to the built-in typewriter? Does not deteriorate from moisture and steam? I want an installation, but I'm afraid the furniture won't stand
Sonadora
Lena, if you do not open immediately after washing, while the PMM is hot, and if you let it "cool", it will not deteriorate.

Quote: tortoezhka
I was about to go to the store for a dishwasher
Do you already have kitchen furniture? It's just that the PMM-insert is not built into a niche, such as an oven, but between tables (drawers).
cake machine
Quote: Sonadora
Do you already have kitchen furniture?
furniture is only planned. I'm doing the repairs in the kitchen so far. Then I will order furniture. Thanks for the answer. Calmed down ...
Sneg6
Who has BEKO DIS 1520 and BEKO DIS 1522 and worth buying? Thank you.
Lubasha
I have CENTURY 1520 2 months. Considering that I did not have a dishwasher before, I am delighted. She washes in different ways with different products. So it doesn't depend on the car. There is no noise from it, it shows the washing cycles. In general, everything is standard. And considering the price, everything is fine. By the way, the washer master installed it for me. He says that the VEKO brand itself is quite good in all products.
sazalexter
Sneg6, Not worth it, read the thread https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=31278.220 messages * Anyuta *
Laslovna
I don’t know whether I’m writing on that topic or not, but .. I had a problem, upon returning from vacation I found out that the old car had broken down and my husband bought and installed a new one, but after studying the documentation I did not find instructions for this model either in Russian or in Ukrainian ... Before that, there was a new Electrolux Bosch SMV53L30EU. When downloading instructions with this marking of the machine from the Internet, you understand that this is not the same instruction, since the number of buttons in the sketches is different. When setting up the machine, it becomes impossible to set the water hardness and rinse aid level. Dear forum more often, maybe someone has this model, help.
rog6012
So all Boshiks have the same settings for these parameters.
try reading here 🔗
Laslovna
By typing, I determined which button to press together with the start button to set the necessary settings
toffee
Oh yeah! In Bosch with settings without a bottle, you can't figure it out.
Sneg6
Quote: sazalexter

Sneg6, Not worth it, read the thread https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=31278.220 messages * Anyuta *
I realized thanks.
How does Bosch SPV 53M00 differ from Bosch SPV 53M00RU?
dandelion
Help is urgently needed. Does anyone have a whirpool 7570ix? Very little information on the internet ((
dandelion
Another question .... does it turn out to be a drying cabinet anymore? Apparently, the dishes will be added (you won't immediately wash in the PM for 4 people immediately after breakfast), you will need additional spoons, forks, plates. Where to shove everything then?
gala10
dandelion, in a cupboard and put it!
dandelion
There are a lot of new models. How do I search for reviews if models are constantly changing?
gala10
Well, yes, it is very difficult to choose. Read this thread carefully, here the reviews are real.
dandelion
I know that the reviews are real ..... but the fact is that either we do not have these models in stores or there are no reviews for those that are on sale. : girl-q: Here's how to choose?
ElenaB
dandelion, so which one liked this and take it)))
gala10
dandelion, I would choose again what I have: a German-made Bosch. Serves, mmm, faithfully.
rog6012
Quote: gala10
Bosch German assembly
Take it, you won’t go wrong.
Sneg6
I bought a bosch spv 53 m 00 ru, I don't know which side to approach. There is no time to read the instructions.
m0use
Olga, I have the same, everything is simple there. I use all-in-1 tablets, so I didn't touch the salt settings. I turn on, press the auto button and fseee. But you need to read the instructions .. I didn't really like the drying-I installed the intensive-now I'm completely satisfied!
Sneg6
m0use, Thank you! There are pills there. And there are some other details that I don't know. What brand of all-in-one tablets?
m0use
I use w5, but I tried both the finish and the fairies - they all wash well. Inside there is a basket for cutlery (spoons-forks), I rarely use it, it is more convenient for me to insert them with a handle into the plastic stops, those that are above the glasses in the upper basket (I wrote it ..), a thing that looks like a shower head is needed only if you remove the upper basket for washing baking sheets, I have not used it either. Ol, we have a wonderful machine! I love her..
dandelion
For some reason now Bosch is not very praised. They complain that some kind of part flies out in 2-3 years, and replacing 50% of the cost of the machine itself (((((Yes, and how to be sure of the assembly? Even in the store, she pressed the front door with her finger - the metal went into ((( Ariston has no ...
m0use
To be sure of the assembly, you need to open the door and find the inscription "made in Germany" embossed on the metal on the front panel. These are assembled in Germany from German parts, they have nothing and nowhere "shaking" ... I would not compare them with Ariston, collected in Lipetsk. About 15 years ago, Ariston was, yeah! And now, I haven’t heard such a thing about the Bosch.
dandelion
Ksyusha, what thread heard about HANSA? I just have a hansa stove. I have been happy for 7 years already.
m0use
I have never heard anything bad about Hansa. In general, I'm not a super expert in technology, I know about Ariston, my mother's washing machine worked flawlessly for 15 years, but only Ariston wanted a new one, they came to the store, touched it, slammed the doors ... horror! Yes, and according to reviews and all their equipment .. and the original assembly, the price is twice as high. I chose the dishwasher very responsibly and read the reviews for half a year.
gala10
Quote: m0use
I chose the dishwasher very responsibly and read the reviews for half a year.
Now I choose any technique that way.
Wiki
Quote: dandelion

Apparently, dishes will be added ...

I haven't added anything. But there are two of us, and there are six plates, cups, glasses and cutlery. Enough.

Quote: dandelion

Another question .... does it turn out to be a drying cabinet anymore?

Needed. It is convenient to store dishes in it. There is no need for a drip tray as the dishes leaving the machine are completely dry. You can remove it and put cutting boards in its place, for example.

I read somewhere that people do not completely unload the dishes from the car, but take them out as needed. But then I don't understand - where is the dirty one? Not to clean the car. And putting it in the sink doesn't suit me at all. I unload completely and arrange the dishes in their places. And I put the dirty one right in the car. And the kitchen is always in order
toffee
Yeah, I somehow tried to make dirty dishes in the PM. In short, I forgot about her, lost. And when "suddenly" I found I was so happy.
dandelion
In general, I'm at a loss. I would like, like everyone else, inexpensive up to 15 tons. Rub. But soaps are great.

For some reason, in stores, the choice is mainly narrow PM (((((
googusik
girls! Well, tell me, does it completely wash your pans? I have indesite, so on the side walls inside the frying pan, lep has already appeared, while I was scrubbing everything with my hands, and a year has already been with a dishwasher, I think let her wash it? or do I demand a lot from her? Do all pots and pans shine like new ones? mine is already on the longest finish cycles
gala10
My car gradually I washed all the pans to a shine. And the pots shine like new. Hands never worked that way.
toffee
And what is lep?
The outside of the pans I had were black and tan. Only with a knife it was possible to scrape, in the PM they washed, but not immediately. And I wash some dirt with my hands after a typewriter
Wiki
My pans and pans were always clean (I scrubbed every time), so I can't say anything. Current (not old) dirt is washed clean after the next cooking.
If I had old and heavily soiled dishes, then with the purchase of a r / m it would be better to buy new dishes, with the machine it would definitely never be in disrepair.
googusik
that's just the point - that we are talking about new pans - I am silent about the old ones - after washing them in the PM I see that on the edges of the frying pan there is a stuck, not washed lep, that is, old fat - the bottom is clean and the edges are 2-3 cm of dirt - dried up! after the PM I took them out today and cleaned them off with a rag, while the dirt was steamed, it quickly removed! but doesn't the PM itself wash them? I read on the forums, everyone is delighted that the dishes are like new! I don't have it! I do not understand what is the problem? in car?
gala10
googusik, and what means for PMM do you use? I have only Finish.
googusik
and I have a finish-
gala10
And at what temperature does the main stage take place?
googusik
2 hours -65 degrees! Today I freaked out and twisted my pans on this program 2 times, and at the end wiped that hated lep with a rag! where is my delight with the dishwasher?
gala10
Maria, I sympathize! Something is wrong with your typewriter ...
Maybe she's not getting the right temperature?
dandelion
Girls, what about me? What model to look for and want? : oops: HERE I have already deleted the indesite from the list, like Veko
gala10
dandelion, I already said: Bosch German assembly. This is my hard-won choice. There used to be Electrolux, I was not lucky with it.
Wiki
Or Siemens of German assembly. Actually, this is the same Bosch.
Antonina 104
Dandelion, I've been washing my eyelid for a year and a half and I'm happy as an elephant. Everyone makes their choice!
dandelion
Oh, and the choice is difficult (((But I already know one thing. What you need to take is a full-size one, but for some reason in stores there is a wider choice of narrow ones ((((
dandelion
Dishwasher (60 cm) Vestel FDO 6031CW

Does anyone know what this PMM is?

sazalexter
dandelion, Vestel A Turkish manufacturer that produces super low-cost equipment, assembles it mainly in Russia, their chills are so-so on the C grade. PMM seems to be a new technique for them.

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