gala10
P3na, indicate that you are from Bryansk, otherwise we are too small here ... PMM - press the "Technique" button under my profile picture, the brand is indicated there, otherwise I just remember that Bosch. Hardness did not determine, there are factory settings, so far (for 5 years) everything is fine. In general, you can call Gorvodokanal, they will say there.
toniche
Damn damn ...
probably just a cry from the heart ...
well, I also want, of course, to listen to other thoughts on this matter ...
My dishwasher BOSH SMV63V00 / 14 is covered
served for 3 years !!! for me this is not enough, I think ...
Buying it for 36,000 is not cheap at all, I took it to the service center, they said the module flew and the flow sensor all repairs will stand at 12,000 rubles !!
my in shock
I sit and don't know what to do ...
does it make sense to repair? or add a couple of thousand and buy a new one, the brand is simpler ...
All these three years my beauty was fine with me, I didn't even see any flaws in her for myself ... she is perfect !!! but damn, why did it break so quickly (in my opinion) ??? and why did it break? I'm waiting for my husband, he went to the master, talked, said we will repair, and I'm all in thought: is there any point?
I don't even ask for advice ... you can't advise here ... I just want to hear who thinks what ...
* Anyuta *
toniche, very many have now stopped buying boshes precisely because they have connected something there, roughly speaking "3in1", that is, if one of the components included in this triple flies, then the whole block will change ... ...
And where is the guarantee for the repair of this unit? Well, they will give you a month of guarantee, and then what?
I don't even know if there is anything to advise here ?! I just stopped taking equipment from an expensive price category ... If the equipment "flies", it will not be difficult to replace it, nor will it "choke" the toad!
Taia
For 12 thousand you can buy a new dishwasher, my Zanussi costs so much.
This is my first dishwasher in my life, and I deliberately looked for the cheapest one.
I proceeded from experience with a washing machine, the first was a simple Vyatka - it washed well, served for almost 20 years. The next Ardo is more expensive, but there is no difference in the quality of washing, both of which were washed well. And now my dishwasher washes the dishes perfectly, hence a similar thought arises - why buy expensive dishwashers? And simple equipment is easier to repair and cheaper.
toniche
So now, of course, I'm inclined towards a new one ... now I certainly won't fork out for the expensive one, in our time no one will give any guarantees.
And how lucky I am with the new one, too, you can't guess, but to give 12,000 for repairs, when you can buy a new one, the toad slaps me straight from above
I found it seems to be according to the reviews of BEKO DIN 5833 Extra, to write it seems to be quite good and for the price normal ...
Most likely I will go to the store and there I will simply be guided by the price ...
Taia
The author of the previous post * Anyuta * suffered from BEKO.
I don't think she will advise her.
toniche
Quote: Taia

The author of the previous post * Anyuta * suffered from BEKO.
I don't think she will advise her.
Yes??? bliiin, started)))
so I knew that it just wouldn't end like that
* Anyuta *
Quote: Taia
I don't think she will advise her.


Well, I won't mind ... because the model is different ... but from myself I want to say - even such a large store as a media mark has fought since the century and lawyers said that they see such a "manufacturer" for the first time .. as a rule, large suppliers rush to resolve all issues quietly, and Veko "in a pose" stood up - even on the opinion of the forensic examination ...
sazalexter
toniche, Bosch, AEG-Electrorlux-Zanussi. With all the wealth of choice ...
toniche
Bosch doesn’t seem to have 60 cm less than 25,000, but this is still not 12,000, but I’m not familiar with the rest of the brands, there was nothing from this series
sazalexter
tonicheIt's easier to change the water block in Boch
nati
I have an electrolux, only a small tabletop. She served ... so as not to lie ... 7-8 years somewhere. In a sooo tense mode - I washed everything that fit in it. By the way, when we bought it, we chose between electrolux and Bosch.Since our children (10-12 years old) paid for it, the boy-consultant apparently took pity on them and quietly whispered in her husband's ear so that they would not take the Bosch. We have never regretted the purchase. A month ago, my assistant stopped heating the water. I asked my husband to repair it, but he decided that it was easier to buy a new one. We took exactly the same model as it was.
P3na
Hello everyone!
it didn't work out with Elik, I got upset ((after all, I fell in love with him ... but it didn't work out with the online store ...
I had to take it in another, but there was no such model, it turned out more expensive and somehow unexpected ... Bosch SPS 53M52, there is nothing to compare with, it is the firstborn. For several days now I have been bastard, what a beauty not to wash with your hands. Crystal and glass shine, pots and pans (old) are gradually washed, the only thing is that half load is not enough to save ... I remember Elik there are such wonderful everyday programs ... well, okay, otherwise Boshik will be offended)))
Kirks
toniche and you try to contact another service.
toniche
Girls, thanks for the support)) the passions seem to have subsided, calmed down. my husband called the local kulibin)) let him say he will look.
And we ourselves will most likely buy a new one. This time I won’t take a steam bath, I know the main points that I need and are important, I’ll see what price suits me.

I turned to another service, it seemed like the same thing happened.
AnastasiaK
toniche, I have my first dishwasher, took the cheapest one to try, Kandy for 9 sets. She makes me happy, washes well, 5 programs, I use only 2, the rest have not yet arisen. Let's see how long it works for me. A friend has a more expensive machine, Hansa, she is not happy with the quality of the wash, particles of food remain on the plates, although of course a friend does not put plates with half-eaten food in the dishwasher. Good luck with the repair and purchase!
fronya40
Girls, and I bought myself a present for the New Year. Pyramid, not expensive. But how she makes me happy! I don’t know how people don’t wash with it, having already in the house, so my friend bought an expensive one, and so it’s idle ... I keep putting dirty dishes, when full, I turn it on. It happens that a dirty jar has not been washed, which means it was standing incorrectly .. and on a short program it is not always good, that is, if you only ate, then it washes everything, if you stand, then I turn on the 2 hour wash.
AnastasiaK
I put it in a drawer, put it under the sink, so as not to open the machine every time. Once a day I load and run. The buzz. Mom also bought a dishwasher in the DR. He rarely uses dishes, although he hates washing dishes. I do not understand. Says: "Oh, why will I wait until it is full, now I will rinse it, otherwise there will be nothing to eat or drink from while she washes." I already suggest to her to buy the necessary number of identical plates-cups, a couple of table sets of spoons-forks, so as not to wait. Apparently, you will have to buy and configure this system by yourself. I give everything that can be given to the dishwasher, except for knives, boards, graters, strainers, etc. And then hand washing is recruited ...
Olyx
Good people, human beings. and. and. I bought a vaunted Japanese powder, but it does not wash off normally, even in Auto mode. Small particles of powder remain on transparent glasses (visible in the light). I have already reduced the dose and loaded the dishwasher by 1/2 - not a fig !!! The only thing I bought was Lion Cristal, not CuCute from Kao. I arrange the glasses well, by the way, this is my first powder. It's so insulting, at least throw away (((
Olyx
Sorry, I threw my phone on the wrong topic)
V-tina
I ((a Zanussi machine is only a month old .. during washing, a lot of water accumulates in the sump, the second time already the aquastop works .. until now everything was fine .. can someone know where to look for the reason ??
sazalexter
V-tina, Check the drain and fill connections.
V-tina
everything was checked, shaken, blown through, at the beginning of the sink it seems to drain .. in the end, as the water is already hot, the protection works .. and, I remembered, the drops of water from under the facade were hot .. take it to the service, right?
Erhan
Quote: AnastasiaK

Mom also bought a dishwasher in the DR. He rarely uses dishes, although he hates washing dishes
My mother-in-law has a dishwasher purchased for her wedding.And it turns on only when I, the younger daughter-in-law, come to visit, although she has a lot of dishes. At first, my mother-in-law resisted my attempts to mechanize the dishwashing process, but now she is used to it and she herself asks me to wash a mountain of glasses and plates that no one has used for a whole year.
Bijou
Quote: V-tina
take it to the service, right?
Rather, call the service home, no? Under the guarantee, the cost of transporting large equipment falls on the store or service, and not on you. I don't remember the lower threshold, it seems like three kilograms.
V-tina
Thank you, we need to see what and how we have in Belarus on this issue .. but those service centers that are indicated in the guarantee for the house do not leave, unfortunately
TatianaMP
Dear forum users! Help me please! The question arose of choosing a new dishwasher. Before that there was Zanussi, the simplest one, without a timer, only 3 programs, and so on. Served well for 15 years. And now it broke ... And now I want something like that ... I choose for a long time ... At first I wanted Bocsh, he, of course, is reliable, I understand. But for the same money he wants some more zest ... For example, folding shelves, a greater variety of programs.
Can you please tell anyone has a Whirlpool? Has anyone heard something about this brand? I would be very grateful for any information.
I am considering models Whirlpool ADG 6353 A + TR FD and Whirlpool ADG 9673 A ++ FD.
I am very grateful to everyone who responded in advance!
sazalexter
TatianaMP, No need for Whirlpool, see AEG, it's better as an option to renovate the Zanussi. Pampering is, shelves and a bunch of programs ...
Taia
Quote: TatianaMP
Before that there was Zanussi, the simplest one, without a timer, only 3 programs, and so on. Served well for 15 years.

Your words are like a balm to the heart. I have Zanussi, I wish her such longevity.
TatianaMP
sazalexter
Quote: sazalexter
see AEG
Thank you! Why exactly AEG? How do they differ for the better?
sazalexter
TatianaMP, Advanced technology, reliable and expensive.
TatianaMP
So the whole point is that somehow I don't really want to buy a rather expensive one, since it will most likely be reliable and will again serve for 15-20 years. And during this time will get bored! Or am I wrong
kat-rin-ka
My dishwasher Candy compact worked for only 3 years and its basket for dishes rusted. Has anyone had this? I wonder why this happened ... Now I am looking after a new one, although the kandy is still perfectly washes, but the basket is already pouring down, it is all in cracks in which rust is visible.
I tried to find in the internet where you can buy such a basket, but to no avail. Maybe someone knows where you can order such a spare part?
lana19
kat-rin-ka, I think we should contact the service center. Or look for ads from private traders about the repair of PM and the sale of second-hand. It happens that old cars are taken for parts and baskets remain
Bijou
Quote: kat-rin-ka
I break my head why this happened ...
Because the manufacturer sold 6 junk. In theory, such a discrepancy between the actual service life and the declared one is probably a court case? It is unlikely that Kandy claims the prior's service life is less than 5-7 years.
Iris
Hello everyone! :-)
A couple of months ago I bought a Hoover dishwasher :-) I dreamed for almost a year, I was looking for the most suitable option for me .. I bought it! Then I waited for the renovation in my kitchen to finish .. and .. now .. it works !! Already a week!!! Thanks to everyone who helped me find additional information about my Hoovere .. as it turned out, this is not a very popular brand and it is not so easy to find reviews .. but .. my assistant has been buzzing in my kitchen for a week now, getting used to each other slowly .. and .. if someone decides to buy the same, if I can, I will share my experience (albeit a little, for now)

TatianaMP
Quote: sazalexter
TatianaMP, No need for Whirlpool
Thanks a lot for the advice! They sobered me ... I approached the selection more critically and settled on the Bosch SMV 53L30. They will bring it on Wednesday. I will try.
ElenaB
Recently, I began to think about buying a dishwasher, for 20 years of marriage - I washed the dishes in full - yes and began to notice my hands began to be from various detergents - just horror + my allergy.
Please tell me what is the principle of work? I read here and realized that many put dirty dishes in the typewriter during the day, and at the end of the day they turn them on - therefore, a little more dishes are needed - but where to put, for example, clean dishes? I have a small cabinet for plates (of course, there are not enough plates now - we are three people + my Yorkie dogs eat porridge with meat in the morning and from them bowls and pots, bowls from multi) -cabinet where to put so that the water from the plates is glass, here it is not enough places - or is it not needed? because the dishes are dry after the typewriter and you can just put it on a plate?
My husband is against PMM (he says that she is not needed), although he sometimes does the dishes ...

I began to read about the models and sizes of the PMM - because the kitchen is small (Khrushchev), now there are small PMMs (tabletop) - should I have a choice or buy a small one? and turn it on several times a day - and I don't know if it's profitable - will the light burn up a lot? I don't have water meters Or buy a typewriter (60 cm immediately disappears) 45 cm-full-length - but then I will have to reduce the corner of the sofa and so on. and then it is natural to collect dishes for the day and wash at night.
sazalexter
ElenaB, We save up the dishes, until the PMM is completely filled, wash them, then just put dry and clean plates. A small PMM still needs to figure out where to put it or under the sink, which is also not very convenient. It is necessary to carry out work with my husband, for example, to charge him with the obligation to wash the dishes, referring to allergies and sore hands, they say it helps Electricity is consumed, of course, but much less water than when washing by hand.
Bijou
ElenaB, well, about a few times a day about a small dishwasher, maybe a change, but that one time sometimes won't be enough - yes. Especially if 6 large dishes get into the sink. And at the same time, my acquaintances and with four in the family use such PM and are satisfied. In terms of efficiency, of course, the larger the car, the more economical in terms of electricity it will be. But if for this you have to redo the sofa, then this is unpleasant, of course.
Is your electricity tariff single or does the payment differ by time of day? If the second, then 6 is better still, IMHO. But there is still such a thing - disgusting. If you want to wash them in the dishwasher, but you need to compare the 6th sizes. I don’t know how they differ there, but a friend in the desktop Electrolux washes his own, and in another friend’s floor 45 cm they don’t fit from his oven.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Bijou
In terms of efficiency, of course, the larger the car, the more economical in terms of electricity it will be.
and the total water consumption too .... especially on weekends, or when you cook a lot ...
ElenaB
sazalexter, thanks for the quick answer, I am slowly leaning towards a narrow, standing 45cm PMM - I looked at the messenger in the m. video - for 10 sets and the price suits me )) I buy it myself - for my own money, I will present this argument, but so slowly for two weeks now I have been talking to my husband so, by the way, I am talking about PMM.

Bijou, thank you, no, there is only one tariff for living, but the fact is that a small table-top machine - you probably won't be able to shove it under the sink - firstly, something may leak there and then the machine may break down, so I decide to reduce the part of the sofa (kitchen corner) - we have it a little big anyway for our kitchen - honestly I'm ready - already for this - because I already have my hands - everything is like my grandmother's 90 years.

I also read that you can wash some of the dishes, for example, at Westel's - then probably you can also do the floor. to put tablets, or to fill in less powder., it will probably be more economical then. And what is the approximate cost of powder and salt per month?
Charm
and I have a whirlpool) for 9 sets has been working regularly for 4 years, I am very pleased with her, but we are moving and will leave her in this apartment, and buy a larger dishwasher for a new one ... what should I pay attention to when choosing? which firms do you recommend?
sazalexter
ElenaBIt is more economical not to drive 1/2 PMM in vain, to use separate means and not tablets. The powder of a large box is enough for a long time, for washing ~ 15 grams, rinse aid and salt are different for everyone, depending on the cruelty of the water.
sazalexter
Charm, AEG, Electrolux, Bosch-Siemens. Zanussi
ElenaB
sazalexter, huge for the explanation, it's just that somehow the thought that the machine is full of unwashed dishes is worth the whole day - yes, you have to get used to it, and not rush to wash it
sazalexter
ElenaBBut how well it will wash it with Hands will never work, about 2 hours and at a temperature of 55 * С
Immediately remember that the laundry, as a rule, also accumulates, and then is washed, few people would think of rushing to wash after a stormy party
toffee
ElenaB, go to the topic of desktop PM. There, on the last pages, I and someone else posted photos of these babies.
Bijou
Quote: ElenaB
And what is the approximate cost of powder and salt per month?
With a fairly successful purchase of tablets, their contribution to the wash is from 5 to 8 wheels at a time. Separate funds will come out cheaper, expensive tablets are more expensive. Who will adapt how.
V-tina
Quote: ElenaB
And what is the approximate cost of powder and salt per month?
With a daily wash in PMM for 12 sets and hard water for three months, I spent 20 cu for powder + salt + rinse aid. e. Rinse aid for another 3 months)

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