Bijou
Quote: Jefry
After 7in1 tablets, the dishes dry better.
In order to ensure that the dishes, washed with the help of tablets, dry better, add a hotter last rinse to the all-in-one program or lengthen the drying time. Bosch has the first solution, Electrolux, perhaps the second, according to the owner.
marisabelka
: oops: Forgive me for interfering in your hot conversation, but who could not share your impressions with the electrolux, otherwise I rush between Siemens and electrolux. and you also have a lower sprinkler like this?
Dr.NO
Zhukov PavelWhile they argue here, tell me. When the machine was buggy, did the program end LED blink? If it blinked, how many times? It is advisable to find out this next time. Very similar to the water flood time error. It appears when the bay timeout (I think it is not necessary to explain that it is necessary to check the inlet hose and the mesh in it, if any), it is reset itself after draining. In any case, watch if the diode blinks.
But most likely Eugene wrote to you correctly in post 2634 and your PMM has nothing to worry about.
And the inclusion of the 3in1 function in some PMM increases the washing time of short programs. It is a fact. This is done essno for the complete dissolution of the tablet.
Zhukov Pavel
marisabelka, I have ESF 4500 ROS, round sprinkler. Plus there is a middle sprinkler that pours up and down and an upper sprinkler is fixed at the top.
It washes perfectly, I use the auto mode, I tried an intensive, fast program with powder when the dishes were freshly soiled.
The pots, which were covered with burnt bloom, began to shine, glassware for baking too.
In general, I like everything.
The top cover is removable and can be placed under the worktop. The legs are adjustable.
I tried to wash with powder + salt + rinse aid and All in 1 tablets. As a result, I stopped at tablets (PMM has the Multitab option)
The most important thing is that it works quietly, sometimes when I watch TV in the kitchen, I can't hear it at all.

Dr.NO, did not seem to blink. I'll check the mesh. I don’t have a filter, maybe debris got there. Thanks for your answer, I'll watch next time.
Zhukov Pavel
Quote: Bijou

In order to ensure that the dishes, washed with the help of tablets, dry better, add a hotter last rinse to the all-in-one program or lengthen the drying time. Bosch has the first solution, Electrolux, perhaps the second, according to the owner.

Then I will try to wash it with powder and tell you how long it takes to dry.
But yesterday PMM did the last rinse with hot water.
sazalexter
marisabelka, Electrolux ESF 4151 has been working for me since December 2004, one breakdown in October 2009, so far satisfied, lower sprinkler, simple rocker
Zhukov Pavel
sazalexter, and what broke, if not a secret?
sazalexter
Zhukov PavelThe printed track from the leg of the power relay is burnt out https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=116.1140
Zhukov Pavel
sazalexter, the fact that the machine has been serving for so many years is already pleasing)
sazalexter
Zhukov PavelIn general, yes, although now Lux produces cars that are quieter and more economical
Dr.NO
My 99 years old really Bosch
Zhukov Pavel
Dear, tell me, but the PMM in Auto mode really chooses whether you need to do an additional rinse or not?
And then some write that with the Auto program, PMM selects the washing mode depending on the previous washes.
And my instructions say that with the auto program, PMM analyzes the load + water pollution and selects the water and energy consumption.
This is my first PMM, do not throw tomatoes)
sazalexter
Quote: Zhukov Pavel
And then some write that with the Auto program, PMM selects the washing mode depending on the previous washes.
It used to be that way.
Quote: Zhukov Pavel
And my instructions say that with the auto program PMM analyzes the load + water pollution and selects the water and energy consumption.
And now, as they say, the machine rinses the dishes when turning on and determines the degree of contamination of the dishes by the turbidity of the "broth"
Zhukov Pavel
sazalexter
Tell me, is it possible to change the facade of the PMM, for example, if I have a silver facade from the factory (model ESF 4500 ROS) and there is a model for sale with a stainless steel facade (ESF 4510 ROX), with the same dimensions, the model has a different number and facade ...
Can I order a facade and change it through a service center or skilled people?

Dishwasher selection (2)
sazalexter
Zhukov Pavel, It is theoretically possible, practically if only through the service to order the panel. I think it is easy to change, I have screws on the perimeter.
marisabelka
Perhaps everything is possible, only this can affect the warranty.
Bijou
Quote: sazalexter
I have screws on the perimeter.
Solo ?? Wow, I didn't know, save me.
Nosh
Good evening. Can anyone use BRAVIX GSR for dishwashing powder for dishwashers 2kg? I am looking for what you can buy and so far only this bravix or FINISH powder for dishwashers Lemon 1kg.
gala10
Irina, means for PMM are being discussed here.
And I have been using for 5-6 years FINISH powder for dishwashers Lemon + rinse aid + salt. Everything suits me. I used to use pills. I like the powder better.
Nosh
Thank you, Galina. There is simply no way to read the entire forum (two small ones, and I'm at the computer). I ordered the finish lemon and salt. You can't even go shopping with these tomboys. Tomorrow the wizard will come to check the connection, but nothing has been bought yet
love-apple
We are also going to connect today but nothing. The machine contains 2 tablets 3 in 1. Can't you try with them? Or do you still need salt?
gala10
LarissaAs far as I know (let the tech gurus correct me), salt is still recommended. I also had my first washes with tablets, and then switched to powder.
Julia V
Quote: love-apple

We are also going to connect today but nothing. The machine contains 2 tablets 3 in 1. Can't you try with them? Or do you still need salt?
It seems to me that the salt must be filled up.
Bijou
Quote: love-apple
The machine contains 2 tablets 3 in 1. Can't you try with them?
Of course you can. That's why they put them to you.)) Read the instructions - it is clearly written there that if the water in your region is not extremely hard, then salt is not necessary with tablets, and the display can be turned off. At least so in my instructions from 6osha.
love-apple
thanks for answers
Bijou in my instructions it is not written about this, but they write that the salt must first be filled up. Our water is hard.
love-apple
I decided to start with a pill. I think nothing will happen from one time. I looked about the stiffness, we have medium hardness. True, there were no dirty dishes in the house, everyone was washing after themselves today. I put in a little bit of everything.
gala10
Larissa, congratulations on your first wash!
love-apple
Galina thanks! I'm sitting now waiting
Iris
Girls!!
Your regiment has arrived !! I bought a dishwasher !! :-)

THANKS ALL for the advice! For almost a year I dreamed .. searched .. re-read everything I could find and .. finally !! I bought it !!
love-apple
Iris
gala10
Iriswhich one? Congratulations!
Iris
Thank you!! :-)

I bought HOOVER :-)
Iris
Hoover DDY 65540 XFAPMS

love-apple
I washed it! Everything is perfectly clean. She put two old crystal glasses, ceramic jars for spices, a ceramic pot, plates, wine glasses, a stainless steel pot, spoons, forks. Everything was dry except for wine glasses and forks. Why is it not clear. The glasses are high, maybe they should have been put on the lower basket? And the spoons stood below the glasses and they probably dripped. Here is a report.
marisabelka
Oh, people, how scary, I ordered a typewriter today, now we are waiting, they will only bring it on Wednesday, I'm already on pins and needles.
louisa
Hello everybody! Thanks to your advice, I also acquired the PMM, chose the most sophisticated of the available ones, so for sure: yahoo: Bosch SMV 65M30 !!! True, I won't try it soon, I'm waiting for the completion of the repair
Albina
Congratulations to all owners of this miracle technique: rose: Purchase of PMM is postponed indefinitely. I hoped that by March 8, I would be with her. But now it is not possible yet
marisabelka
Well, finally, a dream came true, we bought this miracle siemens sn24d270ru,: girl_claping: brought it today, connected it, let it through for the first time, now we will download it
Annutka
marisabelka, Marina, with your assistant, let him serve for a long time! We are waiting for your impressions!
marisabelka
When we unrolled it, I think where it is so huge, but when the dishes were thrown nothing like that what we need.
P3na
I welcome everyone!
Respond owners of Beko DIN 5833 Extra.
I chose, chose, and so far I stopped at this model. How much does it correspond to the declared functionality, do you use all these numerous programs. functions ... the most important is the quality of washing and the quality factor of the machine itself and dB - whether this PMM met your expectations. Do you advise?
P3na
Oca, Please advise whether to take Beko 5833 extra, reading the forum understood. that you are the owner of this PMM. How does it hold the test of time, is it worth buying Beko in general and this model in particular?
Albina
P3na, I also choose PMM I have not read the whole Temko, but I have been following the statements of the owners of the PMM for a long time. And I came to the conclusion that this Byaku Beko didn’t even look in. Someone wrote here, tempted by the price, then he only spat and handed over, buying more reliable
gala10
P3na, read here, what * Anyuta * writes, and earlier she described in detail her torment with Veko.
marisabelka
Finally, I tested my typewriter on the dishes, which I can say: it washes of course well, but miracles only happen in fairy tales, it won't wash out old dirt the first time, and I'm very happy, the dishes are clean, without any remnants of food. and I think it will wash away the centuries-old dirt over time, we will also experiment with powders
gala10
marisabelka, congratulations on the first wash.
The old dirt from my pans was completely removed only after about half a year of regular washing in the PMM. So you have everything ahead!
* Anyuta *
Quote: marisabelka
and the centuries-old dirt, I think, will wash away with time

You Galina correctly written below ...
Quote: gala10
after about half a year of regular washing

Everything will be washed depending on how often you put pans in the PMM and everything else with "old" dirt ...
gala10
* Anyuta *,
marisabelka
I wanted to upload a photo here, it turned out only in the gallery somewhere in the profile
Anya
Quote: Albina
don't even look at this Byaka Beko
Well I do not know. I have Bekoshka. I am very happy with it. Even though I only have it for a couple of months.
And my washing machine is beko, TTT has been working for 12 years already

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