P3na
Girls. Thank you. that you answer so quickly!
Indeed, such contradictory reviews After reading a bunch of reviews on the Yandex Market, doubts about Boshi. after all, as probably many began to look and look from the "Germans", something that suits me is too expensive for me, and the economy segment does not shine with either functionality or, as it turned out, reviews ... I started looking at other brands that I hadn't even paid attention to before, and there the reviews are excellent ... here's hello ... how to choose if the budget is 15tr?
Albina
I have always said: buying everything is a lottery "lucky - unlucky"
sima12
I agree 100%. When I decided to choose a PMM for myself, I also read all day long, and then my husband told me so - if your car is destined to break down, any one will break, and if not, it will work.
nakapustina
Quote: Anya

Well I do not know. I have Bekoshka. I am very happy with it. Even though I only have it for a couple of months.
And my washing machine is beko, TTT has been working for 12 years already
I also have Bekos DSFN 6530 for over a year. I'm not overjoyed. And my daughter bought herself only a narrow one,
very happy.
Quote: Albina

I have always said: buying everything is a lottery "lucky - unlucky"

Exactly, exactly. My Philips HR 1659 blender has already been repaired 2 times, although it has not worked for two years
Regina V.
Quote: sima12

I agree 100%. When I decided to choose a PMM for myself, I also read all day long, and then my husband told me so - if your car is destined to break down, any one will break, and if not, it will work.
It's just that in some hands everything breaks, while in others everything works. Technology, it feels the owner.
P3na
Please compare which one is better? Beko 5833 Extra or Zanussi ZDT 15001FA
sazalexter
P3naAs a manufacturer Zanussi (Eenktrolux-AEG) is certainly better.
V-tina
I took such a Zanussi, today it was only soap for the fourth time, on the Eco program I do not like how the dishes dries - wet remains, everything is washed well, on other programs everything is fine, there is not enough delayed start in it ..
P3na
but in the description there is a delayed start 3-6-9 hours ...
P3na
It seems to me that the main thing is still the quality of washing and the noise and economy of the communal apartment, drying - I opened the door and dried it out))
P3na
sazalexter, tell me, are you against Beko, not without thoroughly?
why is Beko given such a 5-year guarantee, and Zanussi only a year?
P3na
I also have a question for you as a GURU - what preference do you personally give to built-in buildings or detached ones? does it affect durability or noise?
P3na
Bosch SMS 40D02
Zanussi ZDT 15001 FA
Beko din 5833 extra
now there are three of them under consideration, please advise ... but in general, in fact, they have already begun to dream of me, I have chosen
V-tina
Quote: L3na

but in the description there is a delayed start 3-6-9 hours ...
And in my description there was also a beam on the floor ... but in the instructions - no

I apologize!! I have Zanussi ZDT12002FA, but I considered that one, but did not take
P3na
V-tina, thanks for responding. I congratulate you on your assistant. You are probably immensely happy, for the fourth time it's just a holiday ...
Here I used to wash and wash myself, and as soon as the dream appeared, every day I notice what mountains of dishes I wash every day !!! I love to cook, but the dishes (dirty) are already starting to stir up.
Why didn't you choose the 15th?
V-tina
Thank you!) Looked at full size, well, so as not to overpay too much, since we completely change the entire kitchen) I'm happy, of course, I'm walking around the city, and the dishwasher works
Jefry
Quote: L3na

Please compare which one is better? Beko 5833 Extra or Zanussi ZDT 15001FA
If you compare not brands, but specifically these two models, then the differences are minimal - Beko has a turbo dryer and it is 3 dB quieter. Zanussi from "buns" has a beam on the floor. The rest are almost identical cars.
sazalexter
Quote: L3na
tell me, are you so against Beko not without thoroughly?
That is the experience of our members of the forum, and not always positive. And under the guarantee I will say this, if it is poorly provided, then I see no point in it. More like a gimmick like a lifetime warranty on memory modules
P3na
sazalexter, Jefry, Thank you!
at the expense of the advertising move you are probably right!
a little higher, I asked about the build-in and finish (here I cut it ha-ha) and added Bosch, please see what is optimal from this trio, pm, thank you in advance!
marisabelka
Please tell me if a whitish bloom remains on the dishes (it is easily washed off, it feels like it was badly rinsed) is the level of hardness not correct, or is there a lot of rinse aid?
V-tina
In my instructions for the PMM, it is written that there is either a lot of rinse aid or detergent
marisabelka
Maybe there is really a lot of powder, because there are whitish stains on the door under the compartment.
P3na
Dear men, happy holiday to you!
PapAnin
Thank you!

All lovely ladies with the coming !!!


And tell me, somebody!
Yesterday I started installing PMM Bosch, fully built-in.
So I did not understand a little from the instructions. There's a rubber apron
which is glued to the bottom edge of the door, from the outside.
It is glued with the top and the whole hangs down.
Is the lower part of it attached somewhere or, simply, is it wound up behind the base and that's it?
From the instructions, I understood that this is exactly the case, but there are doubts.
Zhukov Pavel
I noticed that if you select the AUTO program in the PMM Electrolux, then the washing time is 02.05 and the drying lasts 25 minutes.
If you select the AUTO program and the Multitab option - the washing time is 02.55 and drying is 50 minutes

Explain why the drying time increases when using tablets?
P3na
I chose Electrolux ESF 4510 ROW.
And according to the well-known law, she began to stumble upon information about the sensitivity to voltage drops.
Respond, owners of Eliks, can you buy a stabilizer right away or are there still methods to save the car?
Zhukov Pavel
I have an Electrolux ESF 4500 ROS, it works fine, sometimes I have an overvoltage rather than undervoltage.
P3na
what do we have? washing after 5 minutes turned off the filter - for a few seconds the button on the filter is cut down, then it turns on again for a few seconds. Plugged into an outlet, it seems like it erases without interruption.
Zhukov Pavel
I have 220-227 volts.
Several times it happened that the lights were turned off in the entire apartment for a second or two, when the light was turned on by the dishwasher and continued without interruption.
Bijou
Quote: Zhukov Pavel
Explain why the drying time increases when using tablets?
Because we have already talked about this several times: washing with a dish differs from the program with powder precisely because of its poor drying. Therefore programs with tablets either heat up the dishes more in the last rinse, or dry longer, or both.
P3na
and if you choose a stabilizer, tell me what parameters to pay attention to

Bijou
P3na, wait, you wait with the stabilizer! Now, if it starts to stop, then you will also worry.)) This is such a protection installed - there is no proper nutrition, we will wait, sir. Well, 6you will appoint a sink at a time when everything is normal with the voltage.
P3na
oh thank you, calmed down for a while ... and at what time of day is it more stable?
P3na
I still have a question - if no separate program GLASS, there is AUTO 45-70, ECO. Is it possible to wash the crystal on the existing ones. Another thought came, but if you rinse with crystal by adding a bit of powder directly to the machine, and then rinse it clean afterwards, can you? or it is possible, but not necessary))) I have never had a "helper", and I have never seen her at work (friends are also without her) ...
Bijou
Quote: L3na
and at what time of day is it more stable?
At night. )) Appoint an hour for 2-3 nights, most likely the voltage will be stable and high against the background of everything else.
Quote: L3na
if there is no separate program GLASS, there is AUTO 45-70, ECO. Is it possible to wash the crystal on the existing ones.
Here are just two programs and that's it? I won't dare to suggest .. Rinsing, which Rinsing (you mean it?) Goes with cold water like 6y, there the powder will not dissolve very much. ((But you can try, of course.
P3na
there are only 6 of them -
Fast + 60 °,
Rinsing and waiting
AutoFlex,
Bio 50 ° with pre sink,
Intensive wash 70 ° C,
Hour
Bijou
Well, 6io or an hour one will probably do - during this time the machine is unlikely to be able to heat the water to exorbitant temperatures.
Although it is enough to store a whole machine of crystal ... I can't even imagine that, I don't have it at all.
P3na
hour 55 ", BIO 50", but 3 hours ...
There is not a lot of it, but I want to see the pristine cleanliness of glasses, salad bowls ... I read reviews on the market))) they say with their hands this cannot be achieved in life.
Can you wash any cans?
sazalexter
P3na, I do not have a glass mode either, mine on a car, it's 50-55 * C in the place I put more dishes before filling, the flight is normal
Albina
Quote: Bijou
Although it can fill up a whole machine of crystal ...
What is being sold now under the guise of crystal? I somehow boiled it in soda + glue. One salad bowl could not stand and the glass But the exit shone
Bijou
Quote: Albina
One salad bowl could not stand and the glass But the exit shone

More precisely, 6 was what was left of him?)) * And 6 before his death 6plastel hiccup? - hiccup - it's good .. "))) *

P3na, 6 tins and normal glasses are washed on anybody else, drawings are washed off quickly, the lifespan of glasses is entirely on the manufacturer's conscience - some do not change for years, some turn cloudy, 6 turn pale after six months.
P3na

this is an experiment!
and I'm here with my questions
thanks everyone!
waiting for my assistant ...
Scops owl
Girls, do you keep the dishwasher closed or with a latch? I talked to a woman from work, she says that her son had read somewhere that he had to keep it ajar. It’s written for me, after you take out the dishes, wipe them off, and wipe the seal with a damp cloth, but not rubber. I do that from time to time.
sima12
I keep it ajar, or rather closed, but not until it clicks. For some reason, I also wipe it off, although I have not read about it anywhere.
gala10
Girls, I don’t bother. I close it until it clicks, I use it every day, 5 years already. Now, if I leave, then I will wipe everything and leave it open.
Taia
I keep the dishwasher covered at all times. For the reason that in an open dishwasher, dirty dishes dry quickly and then may not be washed off. And in a humid environment, everything is fine. Rubber seals, the space under the doors and around periodically wash.
Bijou
And I don't click, I just lean. The resource of the castle is 6reg.
Scops owl
Quote: gala10

Girls, I don’t bother. I close it until it clicks, I use it every day, 5 years already. Now, if I leave, then I will wipe everything and leave it open.
Will the seals not dry out if left open? It’s not just that I’ve written that you need to wipe with a damp cloth, moisten. There is no dirt on them
And I also try to keep it closed, but not until it clicks.
marisabelka
And the instructions say that you need to keep it closed
P3na
gala10, hello fellow countrywoman!
Checkmark you know what is our water hardness, what is your PM and what level did you set?

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