Dishwasher selection (2)

just done with brains! The Germans do nothing without them ... take at least the auto industry!
For example, I should read "Made in Germany" on the technique, my brain grinder immediately stops, the choice stops and I rely solely on German conscientiousness. Usually it turns out to be Bosch
The only thing is to look at the barcode, otherwise we know such enterprising people who register a brand in Europe, and spar in basements near Moscow or China.

Girls!! Does anyone know a Hoover dishwasher ?? I liked the characteristics very much, but .. I'm afraid .. I didn't find any reviews ..

Girls!! Does anyone know a Hoover dishwasher ?? I liked the characteristics very much, but .. I'm afraid .. I didn't find any reviews ..

you know, I was looking, I was looking, but in Russia they are almost never sold and there are almost no calls, although the company is German

Control: push-button switches
Number of crockery sets: 15
Water purity sensor
Delay start timer
Leakage protection
Half load
Quick wash
Salt indicator
Rinse aid indicator
Washing class: A
Energy efficiency class: A ++
Well, a VERY tempting combination of characteristics and price ... :-) .. Probably, I'll take a chance ..

yes .. more .. there are positioned 12 wash programs .. How many are actually needed ??

I mainly use 1 or 2 programs, very rarely use two more, but even if they are absent, you can do it ... Just like in a washing machine ...

[Iris]

Iris, the main thing is that this model brand has all the necessary certificates and permits for implementation in the country. Otherwise, either there will be no service centers, or you will simply be denied warranty service if the PMM turns out to be "gray", or the spare parts will be so expensive and will have to wait for months. In fact, any technique can be repaired ... mmm ... the main thing is that there is less trouble with this, otherwise you can really get money.

[ixbt]

Girls!! Does anyone know a Hoover dishwasher ?? I liked the characteristics very much, but .. I'm afraid .. I didn't find any reviews ..

On the forum ixbt there is one review. It won't help much, but what was found. starting with this post and a little further.
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cornknight


written on 04/02/2008 16:11

Bought Hoover HND 915.

When I was standing in the store, a small sign "Supplier to the Court of Her Majesty the Queen of Great Britain" attracted attention. I bought into it. When the car was already at home, I spent a long time surfing the Internet. I found only three Russian-language links. Tests and reviews - zero, including in English.

On one German forum I found a desperate cry - "Well, finally, somebody test this car, people are waiting!"

Then I realized that I had acquired an extremely rare animal. The only thing that calms down is the UK manufacturer and the yard supplier, after all. But the rarity and lack of reviews are alarming. I will probably be the first on the whole Internet.
What can you say about the results of the first week? So far there are no complaints - three honest "A's". The baskets are a little too big, the capacity is still 15 sets. Otherwise, there are no problems. As always, there are more programs than a normal person needs, there is Aquastop, there is an aquasensor, there is a delayed start. There is a nice little blue display that shows information about the processes taking place in her metal belly.

Recently I washed the dishes accumulated during the day in an extreme mode - an ultra-fast wash in twenty-nine minutes. The quality pleased me.

It dries well too - a turbo dryer is available, everything is dry, except for poorly located cups, in the recesses of which water accumulates.

There is no data on noise either on the manufacturer's website or in the passport, but it feels a little louder than the refrigerator.
It seems to me that I am the only user of this machine here. Or not? Brothers and sisters, answer me!

And I also like Siemens, they also all add up and there is a third level for cutlery

Well, yes, given that Siemens is the same Bosch from the same plant, there are enough third baskets among Boschiks.

Here I am tormented by the question: how do cars (45-65) differ from Eco in Bosch? They both wash well (by the way, I have no complaints about the 29-minute quick, if there are no pans, etc.). What is the point: in various indicators of energy and water consumption. Then what is more economical (in light of increasing tariffs)?

[Alenka212]

Alenka212, a similar question overcomes me :)) always washes on cars, now it washes on eco - I'll see. I don't think there really will be a difference. But as for the savings, then, logically, it is Eco, for it and Eco!

Girls, and if it's not a secret why you have water?

We have a cold 19.77 per cubic meter. m., but a sewerage fee of 28.70 is added to it, that is, 19.77 + 28.70 = 48.47 rubles per cubic meter. m.
Do you want to drink, do you want to lei ...

We have cold water at 26.08, and hot water at 98.32 and drainage (sewage) at 37.64

It's great, but we have a cold 34.6 rubles per cubic meter, we really don't pay for the sewage system - the house is private

[marisabelka]

marisabelka, we also have a private house. but the water is drained down the drain.

[marisabelka]

marisabelka, and where are you pouring? eh?
I don't have a receipt on my hands, but I know that cold and hot are at the same price, but the money drips for heating that very hot one :)
but we have already discussed the counters here and came to the conclusion that they cannot be trusted, therefore, for what they are scraping money from us, you cannot figure out

Friends, I have a dilemma - or not to remove such a yellow film from the front of the machine, which supposedly protects it from prints? Somehow, the yellow color is not particularly for me. It strongly discord with the metallic control panel.
Maybe without it, the prints will not be critical? Who deals with such a film?

marisabelka, and where are you draining? eh?

Probably she, like us, has her own drainage pit. There is no central sewage system on the street. We still dream about it, it is expensive to pump out a hole, and there is no place to build a good one.

Friends, I have a dilemma - or not to remove such a yellow film from the front of the machine, which supposedly protects it from prints? Somehow, the yellow color is not particularly for me. It strongly discord with the metallic control panel.
Maybe without it, the prints will not be critical? Who deals with such a film?

... As far as I know, this film is used for transportation and then removed. I had such a film on the freezer, they took it with a metallic coating, when they brought it, then the whole door was covered with a film, they removed it and everything is fine, and there is practically no color and prints.

Yes, we have our own drain pit, it is not very expensive to pump out and, in principle, not often. The water heater heats the water, we have enough. that's why I want the dishwasher to heat itself, but at least it will save water. We are waiting for money, with these New Year holidays, as always, everyone is delaying.

[annnushka27]

annnushka27, marisabelka, aah, I see. And such concrete rings stand, right? The husband's parents are the same. I was always worried about soil pollution while my husband's parents have a house on the 2nd line from the Volga. And now it should seep ...
Annutka, I also think that for transportation, otherwise they would have made it not so noticeable! I will rip off :)

If you saw that the factories are pouring into the Volga and right next to the meadow, and in our village a small river flows into it, the Baltic is pouring into it, in the evenings there is such a stench and for some reason it does not freeze even in the most severe frosts, although the Volga is standing.

Is it expensive to put a septic tank?

[marisabelka]

marisabelka, I see. True, at that time I lived in the Moscow region and did not find the time when 3 large factories were working in this city. Nobody swam in the city or downstream. But now, since the 2008 crisis, everything is worth it, the water is clean :))
The quality of tap water is still not happy, I hope the PMM will not suffer from this. Although she lived in Moscow for 4 years - all her hair fell out of the water
Until now, I can't understand what our real water hardness is. Vodokanal is silent: “Why do you need it?” - this was just our kipish about the quality of the water, so they started partisan.The bottom line is that according to the factory settings - salt 4 out of 7, rinse agent 5 out of 6, the dishes seemed slippery, if taken with wet hands, they dried out - it seemed normal.
Reduced rinse aid by 1, not much changed.
Reduced by 1 more and salt also by 1. Now 3 out of 7 + 4 out of 6. And as if the dishes began to dry faster! And it does not slip, and there are no stains ...
So I think, maybe even reduce it? Scale builds up very quickly in the kettle without a filter. If I reduce the salt and the quality of the wash remains the same, won't it damage the PMM

There are also special anti-scale products for dishwashers and washers, but our water hardness changes throughout the year, because the groundwater is very close, and the water comes from the central well, so you will have to look for strips to determine the hardness.

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so you have to look for strips to determine the stiffness

Check with aquarists.

I went to the Bosch website and was not pleasantly surprised. Bosch recalls PMM 1999-2005 due to fire. I just have a 1999 release. I drove my serial and model and I get under the review. They wrote that they would turn on unattended nezzy, at night too, they will change something for free, they promised to call. What ? Don't write. Will wait. That is, for 15 years I could burn alive at night.

[Dr.NO]

Dr.NO, I think a fire is possible for a certain period of operation. For example, they put some short-lived detail. Maybe there was a precedent, the reason for this detail was revealed, the entire row was determined, where the same sample was installed and now they are withdrawn.
In general, if the service life of the Bosch PMM is 10 years old, then the good fellows that almost at the end of this period (and for you and much later than the end of it) began to recall.
Our manufacturers are not familiar with this at all!

I'm waiting for a call from their engineering service, I'll listen. So far, I just found out that the reason is in the control panel. I have an inset, only with a front panel, a rare model.
Yes, I would change, but the old woman washes better than the young in the country, it's a pity.

Can you please tell me, no one has a Bomann dishwasher? who can say something about this company?

dear forum users, you can congratulate me!
I now too, and not without your help,
with the new dishwasher assistant !!!
now I have a Siemens 45cm (though a little used, but it was brought from Germany).
I studied here, and here is the result!
The control is simple and straightforward, there is a countdown on the display - you can see how much time is left until the end of the program, there is a delay timer (not used yet), the only thing is there is no sound signal at the end - and "0" is on and that's it.
on the weekend everything was washed - the dishes, and the parts of the steamer, and even the chandelier was washed with a bang!
so far only the "aroma" of the powder confuses - I bought "Perfect" from Bagi (Israel),
you need to experiment with this
My husband, in the process of searching and buying, seemed to agree (he knows that he can't convince me anyway, well, I love technology),
but he grumbled - they say, this is pampering, there are only two of us ...
but I liked to load the machine myself and the quality of washing

[nlili]

nlili, congratulations on your assistant! I also have Siemens, second-hand, brought from Germany, only 60cm. Judging by your description, the controls are the same.

[nlili]

nlili, congratulations on your assistant, let him serve for a long time. I also have Siemens, I'm not overjoyed. And about the sound signal at the end of the wash, then you can turn it off with my car, maybe it is turned off for you. Congratulations again!

[annnushka27]

annnushka27, Annutka, thank you!
maybe the signal is turned off, I did not find anything about this in the instructions for a similar model.
In principle, it is not particularly annoying - it is still visible on the display whether the program has ended or not.

Mine has no sound signal, and I don't need it. Washes at night, why an extra squeak?

[nlili]

nlili, annnushka27how did you order your PMMs in Germany?

[nlili]

nlili, I congratulate those !!!!!! from all latitude !!! you choose an odorless detergent and everything will be fine!

[Albina]

Tanya, thank you, practically, with your light hand!
I ordered a detergent on an Internet, but it does not smell through the screen, blini! need to read reviews
Albina, there are people who are engaged in this - they can bring it under the order, or you choose from what is available
moreover, such equipment, as it turned out, is in great demand

Girls, today is exactly a week since I wash the dishes not with pens, but with the help of pmm. What this week has shown - beauty, of course, no words ...
But, already a couple of times I regretted that I did not take 60 cm at once. Although I also thought about the size of the kitchen and the fact that there were 3 of us, I thought enough. No, not enough.
Today I received the Ludwik PMM gel, the dishes are clean, everything is well washed, the smell in the bottle is pleasant, but at the exit - as soon as you open the car - it is exactly the same as after finishing.

And what after finishing? I never washed them? does he smell?

Yes, and as for my taste - not ice. From the package it smells like chemistry.

Brrrr, thanks! Forewarned - forearmed :-)

[nlili]

nlili, annnushka27how did you order your PMMs in Germany?

nlili has already answered, and we, though the city is small, only a couple of points in the area, in the city itself. I have such a Bosch washing machine, a vacuum cleaner, for 7 years already. I like the real German quality. My husband even has a car driven from Germany. Of course I would like to buy something new, but it’s better than nothing, finances do not allow.
I don't have a signal either, but I never even thought about it. This is not a bread maker, where you need to immediately pull out the bread. When I wanted to, then I opened it, and at night it will interfere, we have children. In our kitchen, and just like on a spaceship, something is constantly beeping, beeping, blinking.

It's not a bread maker where you need to take out the bread right away.

I put the bread to bake overnight And rarely when I take it out right away

And if you immediately take out the bread, it turns out to be crispy, children eat it in one fell swoop.

I knew that the debate about bread would begin, I just gave an example. We also do not always immediately take out the bread, and the rye should even stand a little after baking. It's just that sometimes you wait for bread, for dinner, or you need to leave, and then the children need to eat, but they themselves will not get it, and this signal is needed. After all, you can't get it before. And with a dishwasher it is easier, if I urgently need something from the dishes, I can easily open, get it, wash it or rinse it under the tap. In short, you can do without a signal, but if there is one with the ability to turn it off, then this is not at all superfluous.

So we are on the "bread" forum

[nlili]

well damn ... I wanted a bread maker
nlili, Congratulations!!