Dishwasher selection (2)

[Victoria2022]

Victoria2022, Congratulations on your assistant, may you only be happy!

marisabelkaThe ceramic coated soap is no longer a new skillet. It washed well, but it began to stick after several washes and the bottom darkened outside.

I wonder what ceramics does not suit: temperature or chemistry?

Well, what is the temperature there!)) Alkaline chemistry, of course. "Ceramics" respects acid more, it can even restore slightly lost properties in an acidic environment for a short time.

[Victoria]

Victoria, with a new assistant! Let it pleases for a long, long time!

Or in another way, I begged PMM.

That is for some reason the question of buying a new refrigerator, washing machine by men is not solved so excitingly (not by all of course), and the PMM is perceived as a UFO. Even those who do the dishes themselves ...

my husband also seems to be in favor, although several times he tried to say that it was a waste of money. but after I ask him to wash the dishes, all doubts disappear. He can do anything in the house and wash the floors, etc., but he shies away from the dishes like from a minefield.

My husband also did not particularly support me in buying a PMM, he said, you want it, but you can do it, and after two years of using a 45cm wide typewriter, without any objections, I bought it 60cm wide.

My husband also did not particularly support me in buying a PMM, he said, you want it, but you can do it, and after two years of using a 45cm wide typewriter, without any objections, I bought it 60cm wide.

I wonder if you also have Bosch "like Germany" in Russia with small words "Made in China"?

I wonder if you also have Bosch "like Germany" in Russia with small words "Made in China"?

While I was choosing PMM, I came across Bosch Polish assembly.

I wonder if you also have Bosch "like Germany" in Russia with small words "Made in China"?

By the way. I have a Turkish Bosch cooker. I don't see any fundamental differences whose hands were collected: Chinese or Turkish ...

I wonder if you also have Bosch "like Germany" in Russia with small words "Made in China"?

I have Siemens, but they seem to be going only in Poland and Germany. In the documents, a sheet was attached to the typewriter, which listed the models and the place of assembly. And on the end of the door near my car, there is a stamp with a model number and the inscription Made in Germany (or do the Chinese do that too?).

Why "Made in Chana"? On the set-ups, mostly "Made in Germany", on the freestanding ones, Made in Poland "or" Made in EU "is more common. But I don't know how to believe them, I also worked at a garment factory under a German leadership, the tags" Made in Germany "were attached to things "

When I was looking for a model, I noticed that the models of the more expensive segment are assembled mainly in Germany, cheaper in Poland. In general, as you are lucky, there are Chinese people who work for a long time and the Germans break down quickly.

Why "Made in Chana"? On the set-ups, mostly "Made in Germany", on the freestanding ones, Made in Poland "or" Made in EU "is more common. But I don't know how to believe them, I also worked at a garment factory under a German leadership, the tags" Made in Germany "were attached to things "

When I looked after the dishwasher for myself ... then almost all Bosch was either Chinese or Polish, and only a few models were made in Germany, and it was not so easy to find out, you just had to inspect the whole car in stores to find out. And, by the way, one of the signs of Germany ... a small inscription embossed on the back wall, made in germany, but not a sticker. Any sticker can be used.
Exactly that you can run into any assembly .. and spodvig to buy AEG, which is definitely Italy, since there are simply no more factories.

And, by the way, one of the signs of Germany ... a small inscription embossed on the back wall, made in germany, but not a sticker. Any sticker can be used.

Yes, I have such an inscription, only on the door, on the side at the end.

A consultant in one store told me that Bosch only makes the insertion in Germany, I looked at how much it was actually made in Germany, and by the way, Siemens, by the way, is also often found in more expensive models "made in Germany". That is why I am racking my head which is better to take siemens polish or electrolux italy.

[Victoria2022]

Victoria2022, Congratulations on your assistant, may you only be happy!

Thank you very much, so far happy!

[Victoria]

Victoria, with a new assistant! Let it pleases for a long, long time!

Thank you so much. The dream has come true. I will take care of her to please her for a long time.

I also looked at Electrolux, but our network voltage is not stable, and they say that Electrolux reacts strongly to this. Moreover, in Siemens I liked the third cutlery drawer, very convenient.

That is for some reason the question of buying a new refrigerator, washing machine by men is not solved so excitingly (not by all of course), and the PMM is perceived as a UFO. Even those who do the dishes themselves ...

This is yes. Every time we postponed the purchase of PMM for later. But when the conversation started about buying a new TV, she said only through the PMM for the new year. Then he said okay. Of course, I want 3D TV

What about the water savings?

[Victoria2022]

Victoria2022, Hello fellow countrymen! Vika, and what rigidity did you set? Or didn't you change the settings?

[Victoria2022]

Victoria2022, Hello fellow countrymen! Vika, and what rigidity did you set? Or didn't you change the settings?

Hello! The master, when installing, set the lowest. He checked, said the water is normal. Well, I have no scale in the kettle, and the water is not hard. So far I use three pills in one.

What about the water savings?

The savings are not yet very noticeable. I'll probably notice when I go to pay for water. But the time savings are enormous. I feel like a man now. Ahead is the birthday of my youngest daughter, the first serious test for my assistant.

The master, when installing, set the lowest. He checked, said the water is normal. Well, I have no scale in the kettle, and the water is not hard.

And how did the master check? I am from Pyatigorsk and the water is quite hard, there is a lot of scale.

That is why I am racking my head which is better to take siemens polish or electrolux italy.

I made a choice in favor of Electrolux. Has been working for more than six months - everything is fine!

And how did the master check? I am from Pyatigorsk and the water is quite hard, there is a lot of scale.

We live in the village of Essentukskaya. Some stripes. He said the water is normal. The salt contained in the tablets is enough. And my neighbor also had a PMM, she was also checked, they said enough of the salt contained in the tablets.

I made a choice in favor of Electrolux. Has been working for more than six months - everything is fine!

What is your model, if not a secret?

What is your model, if not a secret?

Dishwasher (60 cm) Electrolux ESF6210LOW. Such:
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Well, I also watched it, I also liked 6550row it for about a thousand more expensive

Have you tried to remove the adhesive from the sticky tape afterwards without damaging the surface?

Yes .. and more than once .. and this is done in 10-15 seconds with the help of the PG !!!

in 10-15 seconds with the help of PG !!!

Who it?

Who it?

Steam cleaner - steam generator.

Steam cleaner - steam generator.

An old cartoon has just been shown on TV - do you remember how a man falls in love with a woman, and then it all ends with washing pans, starting from prehistoric times, ending with a flight into space? Everywhere in all ages, a woman is promised a star from the sky, ends with cleaning pots, I remember this cartoon from childhood and often cited it as an example. And then I looked and immediately remembered how my men were friends on my everyday purchases.technicians always laugh so condescendingly, like - what to take from you, you :-) :-) I tell them that you don’t mind your wives? To which there is always one answer - what to do there? A dishwasher is generally a whim :-)
The cartoon is a gorgeous confirmation of this opinion :-)

And now I am also with the PM, just for now we cannot make friends with her in any way. I hoped that the PM washes some hard-to-reach places, for example, in pots, better than pens, but nothing like that. And despite the turbo-drying, most of the dishes are pulled out wet and the walls and bottom of the machine are wet, is this normal or something with my machine? And sometimes the dishes are slippery, and not all, but selectively, salt and rinse aid are at 1. So I think, is there something wrong with me or with the machine?

[AUV]

AUV Yes, there is a sin behind the dishwasher. Not always and not everything washes away. We have to help with pens. I take it calmly, because the washing machine does not always wash everything, there are stains? I already know in advance what will not wash out, so I will separately soak the pan in the sink or rub it slightly. But that rarely happens.
If you open the dishwasher immediately after the end of the cycle, there is a feeling of moisture on some dishes, on plastic dishes, for example, and inside the machine itself on the walls is damp. I usually turn on the dishwasher at night - everything is dry in the morning. It obviously takes time to dry completely.
And plastic bowls seem slippery to you, right?

[AUV]

AUVWhat powder? Try to reduce the amount, try increasing the rinse aid to 2 it will dry better. If not all is slippery, but selectively check the tableware setting algorithm.

A dishwasher is generally a whim :-)

In this case, it is necessary to say in response that if a man has a car, it is also a whim, you can take your ass on the bus, I apologize for the rudeness

Not always and not everything washes away. We have to help with pens.

No, while all the soap is fine, but no better than hands. For example, I hoped that my stainless steel pots and oven trays would start to sparkle, but no, it didn't work out.

If you open the dishwasher immediately after the end of the cycle, there is a feeling of moisture on some dishes, on plastic dishes, for example, and inside the machine itself on the walls is damp. I usually turn on the dishwasher at night - everything is dry in the morning. It obviously takes time to dry completely. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=27402.0

I also put it on at night, but so that it will be hot by 7 in the morning. This morning, for example, the plates and glasses in the upper basket are dry, and the MV bowl and the bowl from the CM that were in the lower basket are completely wet and there is a puddle at the bottom of the PM.
How long does it take from the end of the sink to the opening for everything to dry? I just thought that with turbo-drying, the dishes would immediately be dry ...

What powder? Try to reduce the amount, try increasing the rinse aid to 2 it will dry better.

Alexander, fairy powder. I will increase the rinse aid, thanks, let's hope ...

check the cookware setting algorithm

How's that?

and at the bottom of the PM is already a puddle.

This is bad...

I just thought that with turbo-drying, the dishes would immediately be dry ...

Well, now you think differently, so put the car wash on early, that the car was stopped for 6 hours. And what kind of car, what about the tour6o? Electrolux, or what?
Not all things start to shine straight away - sometimes old dirt. Ki has to be washed for a long time. But sooner or later, all the same, everything will be washed off, do not despair!

Good morning girls!
I'm brand new on your forum :-)
I really want a dishwasher .. Chose Hoover ... can anyone share thoughts and experiences ?? Can't find reviews .. :-)

[sd255]

sd255, I see you are so actively opposing Bosch why did he not please you so much? we in Russia have no problem buying a German Bosch, even a washing machine, even a dishwasher. The brand is everywhere, no stickers. I myself have never seen a Chinese Bosch forgeries.Yes, they have a series of Chinese-made washing machines. It is very easy to distinguish them even by design + markings. But there is no deception - you want to take it, you want it not.
And according to your reviews, you might think that almost every second Bosch is a Chinese who pretends to be a German.
But the same Electrolux should be chosen much more carefully! There is a decent spread of producer countries. Also, no deception, but you will have to study thoroughly.
girls, my husband showed interest in PMM immediately
when I plugged it in, I barely had time to distract myself from slicing the salad in order to control its juggling with boxes of salt powders ...
but I could not tear myself away from one thing - how worried he was that water would overflow from the salt compartment
and how he took a TEA spoon, opened the salt, scooped it up with a spoon and poured it into the compartment, on my laughing "Yes, you rash more !!!" - replied with indignation: "Which one is more? It is already pouring over the edge! And you laugh!"
And what horror was in his eyes when I fell asleep 1.5 kg of salt
And so ... I really don't know how much more I can beg, considering that last summer he persuaded me to buy a sports bike

Well, personally, I'm not against Bosch, I personally don't like their design a little, but this is a matter of taste, for that they have a lock on almost every model. And I also want to say not in favor of the store, I went to Eldorado, there are two Boshiks that are not very expensive, in principle, according to the programs, everything suited me, but the very view inside: everything was lying around on the side of the basket, I pushed it a little and I didn't want to take it. the position of the store is simply not clear why these cars were guilty, why can't everything be done neatly, like in others?

But for me everything happened exactly the opposite. First I studied PMM via the Internet, stopped at Electrolux, went to Eldorado and Foxtrot to see it live. I looked at the Electrolux, and then decided to look into Bosch - and that's it, I liked Bosch inside a lot more. I came home upset, aimed at Lux, but I liked Bosch, in the end both husband and girlfriend said take what they liked. I bought Bosch, yesterday it was finally installed and connected. Imagine - the machine stood for a week, but could not use it. I made a test empty sink, and then with a bookmark - the result pleased. Even my husband, who at first almost didn’t twist my head either, why do I need it? ... you don't know what else to buy ... because everyone can wash the dishes for themselves, all adults. Nevertheless, yesterday he said - super, I already like it, most importantly, he did not even suspect that the dishes were drying there. I washed the old flowerpots, which are a pity to throw away, and are worthless in the kitchen on the refrigerator, just imagine what layer of grease and dust was collected on them - I took out sparkling

[marisabelka]

marisabelka, well, Eldorado has never been distinguished by accuracy and decency in general. I remember, I remember the juicer I bought from them with pieces of dried carrots! I returned it back on the same day with a scandal and came to the conclusion that they often expose goods that were being repaired. Do you know what allows them to do this, among other things? Failure to complete the manufacturer's warranty.
I came to Expert for a smartphone, I’m already buying, she prints out the store guarantee for me (well, at least she didn’t ask to pay for it, as they can), but does not fill in the manufacturer's guarantee at all. I'm outraged - what the hell? are obliged!
She: "No, we have no right! Now, if you bought in a company store, then yes ..."
I look at the store coupon, and the IMEI of the phone is not even indicated there, there is no sticker with it.
I said: "If something happens, I will bring you a phone, and how will you know that this is the phone? Maybe it's a left one!" - "How so?" - "And like this! Write to Imei, glue the sticker, otherwise I will refuse." I wrote it! She put a stamp.
For comparison: on the same day I bought another smartphone in the Megafon salon and, as expected, they filled out the manufacturer's warranty. That is, if I hand over the phone, then after the repair they will no longer be able to put it up for sale with such a guarantee.Either you have to look for another, or else something to be wise! But the Expert can do it.
PMM bought - did not even hint at the guarantee, everything was registered everywhere, the seal was worth it. Yes, you can do with one seal!
And about the consultants, send all the woods !!! In the same Expert, a guy tried to dissuade me from German PMMs (they just didn't have such on sale), telling me that it was the Germans who needed a strong pressure of water.
The washing machine has been worth it for 3 years, the water pressure is often not at all happy, but there has never been a shutdown because of this!
So divide all the arguments of the consultants by two, if not by 10!

And consultants are generally a quiet horror, sometimes you don't sit around them in the afternoon with fire, then like flies won't let you look calmly, in one store they generally told me that the whirlpool is better than Siemens, although I know in red that this is just the policy of the store: they push all their products : I bought the powder of this company from them for a long time, I really like it, but in other stores it is not

Well, personally, I'm not against Bosch, I personally don't like their design a little, but it's a matter of taste

But they have the most sophisticated baskets, and this is much more important.
Because the right person says:

and then I decided to look into Bosch - and that's it, I liked Bosch much more inside

And I also like Siemens, they also add up and there is a third level for cutlery