Omela
Aygul, You're right. I took the instruction again (although I read it already), the accelerated program goes under the letter R (40C). I'll try it out. Now I washed the Glasses (45C) on the program, the morning porridge was washed faster and normally.))
kukulyaka
Quote: Piano


and who washed something?I am also such a strange "boss"
My husband, after the dishes in the closet ran out ... And to all the reproaches she said - I have a dishwasher, I didn't put it - mine!
rog6012
This should be given to your wife to read.
And then all the equipment for the kitchen, I choose, buy and install myself, without her requests.
+ I also teach how to use
Aenta
Quote: Omela
Kandy, the simplest .. not to fat.
We also bought one for the dacha. Now you need to take her to there, find a place and connect.
Loya
The theme is great! Girls boys! There is a bachelor brother, he loves to cook, with a rented apartment in addition. She dreams of a dishwasher. Please advise the model !!!
Omela
Quote: Aenta
We also bought one for the dacha.
Washes perfectly !!

Loya, if we are talking about a tabletop, then the choice is not great: either Bosch or Kandy. Depending on material capabilities.
IwOlga
Girls, I read here, bought a desktop Kandy for their mother's birthday. Yesterday they connected it, today it washes the dishwasher all day without rest, happy !!! There was a misunderstanding: in the basket to the right of the cymbal pins, there is some kind of oblique thing, I don't know what to call it, a bar or a loop ... The right end is attached to the bottom, the left one sticks out in the air. I don’t understand what it is for. If someone understands what I mean, tell me, be nice: oops: 1
Omela
Quote: IwOlga
in the basket to the right of the cymbal pins there is some kind of oblique thing, I don’t know what to call it, a bar or a loop ... The right end is attached to the bottom, the left one sticks out in the air. I don’t understand what it is for
The instructions on page 7 show the placement of the cookware. This thing is for tilting a large plate.
IwOlga
Omela, thank you very much! It means that I did not read well, I wanted to go straight into battle. And in my Electrolux this is not.
Omela
here the volume is small, so there are all sorts of adjustments so that the dishes fit more and it does not block each other when washing.
Mom Tanya
Girls-boys, who can tell, show, what is the diameter of the drain hose (or what is it?)? Very, very necessary!
rog6012
standard
why did this question arise?
you can look at the store on the drain siphons
Mom Tanya
Quote: rog6012

standard
why did this question arise?
you can look at the store on the drain siphons

Because the nearest store is 100 km away.))) But you need to prepare.)
How is a standard washing machine?
IwOlga
Mom Tanya, I asked my husband, he connected a week ago, says: Like a standard washing machine
Mom Tanya
Quote: IwOlga
As standard in a washing machine

That's good !!!) Now the choice of the brand !?
rog6012
Quote: Mom Tanya

That's good !!!) Now the choice of the brand !?
Boshik drives.
You would have indicated the coordinates of your residence in order to know what to advise.
fomca
Quote: rog6012

Boshik drives.
You would have indicated the coordinates of your residence in order to know what to advise.
I will indicate the coordinates of Mama Tanya - Russia, Belgorod region.
Mom Tanya
rog6012, fomca, thank you!!! we looked at the desktop - my husband liked the full-size one ... Now we will think about it!)))
Hippolyte
My wife and I are also thinking about whether to take a desktop or full-size one. I feel we will throw a coin))
YanOchka-
If you take a full-size one, then for 12 people, It will be wider, and a baking sheet from the oven, and a couple of 5-liter pots, and everything else as expected, will quietly enter at a time. And for 9 people, little different from the 6-local Boshik. The same compact, only higher.
And yet, it is very important to determine the amount of dishes.

I have 6 people, a big family - 8 people. dishes from lunch to loading. for the day, the little things will be typed in the evening along with dinner for one more. Boshik is very roomy indeed. there is a photo above, you can look again. But I still put the frying pan sideways behind the plates. total: a 5l pan, a large frying pan or a bowl-basin instead, 6-7 glasses or cups in the foreground, plates-how many dividers allow 7 on the left and 10 on the right, small saucers 5-6, and spoons-forks on the upper rack ... Impressive? She takes water 5-7l., Per day 2 washes are 10-14l. when cooking is large, I start another third load. Ie consumption up to 15-21L a day sometimes. And sometimes we collect one load per day.

High consumption has more - 9 liters. if you shove INSANE, then instead of 3 you will have 2 downloads, and you will not give up one anyway. So it turns out 9-27L.

But for 12 persons, the water consumption increases to 12-14 liters. at a time, (14 personal and 17 even more) But the dishes from 3 loads of Boshik will fit (cram) at a time.
The difference in consumption is now noticeable from 5 to 21 liters and 12-14 liters in the same time and with the same detergent tablet. and in large machines there is a half load mode.
And the last thing. Decide on a supply of dishes and space for the machine itself. The kitchen does not allow me to keep large stocks of plates, from which they ate, then washed.
But collecting 20-30 plates, then waiting for it to wash, or having 5-7 more on duty at the time of washing is too much ... for our kitchen.
And so, the benefit of a large wide is obvious if there is space.
With any choice on your part, she will delight you.
ElenaB
YanOchka-,
Quote: YanOchka-
and in large machines there is a half load mode.

Can I add - in my narrow 45 cm (for 9 sets) - there is a 1/2 load of the machine
But all the same, if there is a place, it is better to take a typewriter 60 cm)))
toffee
Keyword IF THERE IS A PLACE, and if the place is kirdyk my hands dance from worst to worst. For example, a bucket of potatoes that was under the sink moved under the table. Under the sink is now PM.
Lilida
Iris. ka. I have a desktop Bosch SKS62-E-88RU. I understand that this is the latest model. There is also an additional drying function. Well this is for plastic dishes.
toffee
Stunned! Now these babies have all the fancy bells and whistles. And what exactly do you use. Well, I mean, I understand that you need a preliminary rinse in a large typewriter, but here it seems like there is nothing to it. No? Additional drying, hmm-m Well, not so wet plastic dishes come out ... And also, show a photo, please, I wonder how they put it. For large options, there are not so many, but with small ones, it's a flight of imagination.
Lilida
Iris. ka. I don't know how to insert a photo. I put it on the table, on which the microwave oven had previously stood, having previously raised the cabinet with various supplies. There she fit with a margin, but still looks bulky. Rinse aid, tablets and salt I have Magic power (all made in Germany). I use rinse aid, but very little, literally 5 ml. I didn’t pour it once, believing that the dishes were not very dirty, but a couple of containers were badly rinsed, so I always pour these a little. And with regard to additional rinsing - I live alone and not always enough dishes are collected for washing in one day. Then she put the dishes down - rinsed them in the evening (15 minutes) and until the next day the dishes are almost clean.
Lilida
Yes, more. With regard to the flight of fantasy. When the car was delivered, I was amazed at its size, and in fright began to think, but where to put something. It didn't fit next to the sink, the countertop was smaller in width. I had to decide with the microwave oven - where to move it. In general, everything is filled with bells and whistles. But it does not bother me, but those who come are bewildered by everything - why do you need all this. Something like this.
Bes7vetrov
Can I get in too? I turn on additional rinsing after washing, because it seems to me that dishes and plastic containers stink of dish detergent ... But I'm generally a sniffer.And sometimes I rinse the dishes before the main sink, if I see plates with unwashed porridge in the basket, set in the morning by my husband and dry.
Lilida
Girls about the smell of dishes. When I ordered a car, I was offered to buy and funds for it. I agreed. Together with the machine, they brought 5 tablets in one, salt and rinse aid - all Magic prower. I am very pleased with it - the smell is very pleasant and not very strong.
toffee
And I, with a fool, probably bought such a remedy
Tabletop dishwashers
I have never used it. Like they say once a year you need to use it. I do not know... Lidia, and you are great for buying new devices. Do not follow the lead of friends who probably said: "Why do you need it. You can easily wash your plate." Was it?
Lilida
Not that word. Everyone seems to be city dwellers (I live in Moscow), but why do you need a dishwasher - half of my friends and acquaintances asked me this question. Only one friend approved. Saying that I did it cleverly. I understood this clearly after I had to cook and wash the dishes after only 5 guests. Personally, I'm very happy.
Lilida
And with regard to the purifier. If it is purchased, then it must be used for its intended purpose. Water is different everywhere and may even be very useful and you will not only regret it, but consider, on the contrary, that you did everything right.
Scarecrow
Personally, I am asked "Why do you need a dishwasher?" - would hand over the questioner to a psychiatrist))). Because it is necessary to move the roof down to ask such questions))).
Lilida
Hee hee. And those who ask these questions about the dishwasher think that this is not everything with our heads in: nea: ok
Playful
Girls, my desktop Electrolux is already 10 years old as he is with us and I love him with tender love. Of course, I don’t know what will happen next, because when it was a gift from my beloved on March 8, and now there are 4 of us with him, we are raising two boys, and the machine starts up more and more often, but still I feel like without hands without it. We installed it immediately in the cabinet under the sink and disturbed it several times when it was necessary to replace the water meters. But when I come to visit friends and see how the hostess washes the dishes with her hands in a huge 60 cm dishwasher, I don’t understand this ... Of course, I want more, but even with such a compact one, you understand how necessary it is in the kitchen.
Chardonnay
Girls, I'm ripening to buy a table dishwasher. There is, in fact, the only place - on top of the washing machine. I saw pictures of one of the girls here, it was also installed on top of the washing machine. It seems normal, but this is what confuses. Will the dishwasher's insides shake? Maybe someone also built such a structure? Otherwise, the washing machine will need to be taken out into the hallway, and this with my "straight-handed" spouse is impracticable in practice
Probably, you need to put something on a washing machine such as a furniture board before placing a dishwasher on it? Or will it be so hard?
marina-asti
Chardonnay, over the washing machine, hang the shelf on the brackets and the dishwasher on it. And everyone will be happy)))
irysikf
Quote: Playful
We installed it immediately in the cabinet under the sink
Oksana, can I have a photo of how you have it installed under the sink? And then I already broke my head, where to shove it, but I don't want to put it on the countertop.
Chardonnay
Irina, here's how Suslya put under the sink: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=27351.0
Just below the Iris. ka similarly shoved under the sink.
Marina, I have big doubts that the brackets will withstand the weight of the machine plus the weight of dishes and water. And suddenly they are pushed out of the wall together in all goodness.There will be a show ...
toffee
Chardonnay, Here you are an electric broom! While I climbed to look at which page it was you were already right there. Ira, it was on page 12.
Chardonnay
iris. ka, which you cannot do when you are reluctant to work, any excuse will do!
Irisha, do you still have a dishwasher under the sink? Didn't you rearrange it? Damn, while I'm thinking about where to put, you already save your pens
Conclusion - you need to think less and buy faster - what you bought will be put somewhere!
toffee
Yes, there it is. I have nowhere else to put it.
marina-asti
Rita, depends of course on the walls))
For many years I had a large microwave in my apartment, there are special brackets for microwave ovens, they have holes, you can screw a shelf on them.
My friend has a washing machine in the hallway, built into the closet, and there is a dishwasher hanging above it. Everything keeps on)
Taia
Quote: Chardonnay
Marina, I have big doubts that the brackets will withstand the weight of the machine plus the weight of dishes and water. And suddenly they are pushed out of the wall together in all goodness.There will be a show ...

At my request, handles-holders were attached to the wall in the bathroom so that I would hold on to this handle when leaving the bath.
The holder flew out of the wall along with the fasteners and cement, or whatever the wall is made of. We came to the conclusion that our walls cannot withstand loads.
This is what I am leading to.
Do not compare the weight of the microwave and the weight of the dishwasher itself + water + dishes + vibrations.
marina-asti
Taia, depends on the wall, I have heavy folders with documents on the wall in a hinged cube, there is an aquarium on top, but of course all this does not vibrate, but they hang washing machines on the wall, nothing holds. I do not insist, in my apartment, but now I would definitely hang it in the house, because the precast concrete technician can assess the quality of his wall and decide what can be hung on it and what not.
Unlike a washing machine, vibration is much less in pmmm.

I will add:
Brackets of this kind:
Tabletop dishwashers
Model Number IS-70W
Delivery: in Moscow 300 rubles
Manufacturer: INDSPACE
Load (max): 50 kg
Wall distance: 300-450 mm
White colour

or

Tabletop dishwashers
Model Number LOGAN MB2 S
Delivery: in Moscow 300 rubles
Manufacturer: LOGAN
Load (max): 45 kg

The weight of the PMM was 22-23kg, but there will not be another 20 kg of dishes ... According to the last picture, the bracket is attached as much as 6 pieces. Kitchen cabinets with utensils are attached to the wall on the same rail, and hang the same.
irysikf
Quote: Chardonnay
Irina, here's how Suslya put under the sink

Quote: iris. ka
Ira, it was on page 12.

Thank you girls
Bes7vetrov
I also have a tabletop under the sink in the cabinet))
Tabletop dishwashers
toffee
Oh, Liza, you got a tick-to-tick, but I still have a place on my side. There is a drinking water purifier.
Chardonnay
sazalexter, Alexander, can you tell me - is it possible to put a small dishwasher on the washing machine? What threatens both of them?
Chamomile
Chardonnay, but you can't build something like a table on legs over the washing machine? You can make an emphasis on the legs and attach to the wall for fidelity. It's just that I have a washing machine in the kitchen and is covered with a countertop, and on top of the airfryer there is also a pressure cooker. Everything is functioning normally.
Chardonnay
Chamomile1, I am still walking the path of least resistance. A kitchen is planned, in the future I want to shove the dishwasher under the hob (without an oven). And on a typewriter - a temporary option, excluding the use of indirect hands. And so - yes, your proposal is gorgeous, thanks for the idea!
Do you have a tabletop lying on the washing machine? Or is it a cabinet lid. which washer is built into?

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