Tabletop dishwashers

I will also tell you about my life with kandy.
To begin with, I consider this thing superfluous for myself. I don’t know why I bought it, it seems that I’ll retire when I’ll stop seeing at all. Or, for reasons of not buying now, it will become expensive later - that's how it turned out, it went up by six thousand, in contrast to the salary
The kitchen is 12 meters long, there is space on the countertop, but how tired of it I am there - it is cumbersome, downright overwhelming, does not combine with anything, and it also needs to be washed because wherever you put either tap water or spray from the stove. Everything crawls into it, including the grates from the stove (the slab is narrow and the grates are of two halves) and the duck. Probably only an enameled bucket cannot be shoved.
But. There is nothing for me to wash in it: aluminum, silicone and bowls from multicooker, non-stick pans, ordinary knives and you cannot wash all this from a meat grinder there, but I will rinse the plate with my hands. All that remains is glass and crystal. Thanks to the girls for the advice I will also try the jugs from the blender and the plastic - it takes about half an hour of polishing with a clean towel on one item to wash and wipe with my hands, and the result is not happy.
By installation. After I was finally tired of it on the countertop, so I wanted to throw it away, it was decided to donate the cabinet.
I didn’t get under the sink categorically. There are two reasons. a) the depth of the sink b) the cabinet door hinges do not leave a chance to open the PMM. And there is already a filter and a waste disposer. But here's the reason "b" spoiled my nerves when installing in a nearby cabinet - I had to put it so that the door was between the hinges. Maybe our loops are not the same, I saw the loops in the pictures of girls do not interfere.

Now he stands there and his eyes are not corns. Do not use. You will laugh, I don’t like to wash the dishes, but loading the PMM and then unloading it turned out to be much lazier than washing it with your hands, although the number of sets allows you not to look for clean dishes for a long time. Even when standing on the table. Even a saucepan, I generally keep quiet about a plate with a cup.

silicone and bowls from multi-cookers, non-stick pans, ordinary knives and from a meat grinder combine all this cannot be washed there, but

Why not? My ...

And it is not written on them. I don’t wash. I washed the silicone once - the second year it smells. Some unpleasant aluminum. No, I’m better this way. She began to wash the knives with cold water. True, I did not notice the benefits of this.
And the paint washed off the frying pan

Aluminum - yes, it will darken and be covered with a bloom. And I wash the rest, and there is no smell from silicone and the knives are sharp ...
Try liquid detergent ....

Why not? My ...

I wash it too.

Well, knives in PMM are not relevant, I wash them on the spot and immediately wipe and clean them. Especially from a meat grinder. Together with all other spare parts, they have not yet rusted and dried.

So, what are the requirements for detergents, as for a vacuum cleaner so that they do not foam or will anyone go? And then there are one and a half boxes of all kinds of pills, the remains of the powder are somewhere, and I have never even bought liquid ones.

ShuMakher, Masha, did you manage to buy, what did you plan?

What are you talking about?

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And what are the requirements for detergents, as for a vacuum cleaner so that they do not foam or will anyone go? A

I don't remember all the nuances anymore. Take a look at the profile subject

Thank you, I'll go read it. Although from the first page about mustard I was already upset, I just wanted to use it with soda
For the first time in a year (including the last one) I went to turn on the PMM, having thrust a duck into it. Look. This compartment lid is closed, inside is a soggy tablet.In the PMM itself, the devil knows what not sticks, not long pasta, in the grid there is a price tag from new plates, at the bottom and inside the compartment, like a washing powder, a petrified detergent. Brrr ...
Here are the men, how to use it so please, but how to take care of it so they are not there (even the vacuum cleaner will not be shaken out). Had to wash

[Anna67]

Anna67, for a desktop machine, there are many tablets, a whole tablet is designed for a large machine. I read somewhere that some thrifty housewives share pills, but I think it's not very convenient.
For my car I have been using YPLON powder in 3kg canisters for a long time. It is not expensive, lasts for a long time, washes well and does not stink. You can add a little less if there is not a lot of dishes or it is not very dirty and you just need to rinse it.

Yes, it's not a matter of a lot or not. Although of course a lot, only the stand under the spoons was not washed. For the rest, just water was enough and I really don't know what could have got there from the closed compartment.
I don’t save money, the machine doesn’t work every week. Only if you make a scandal to your husband that he is not involved in the household. Then he shoves two plates and a saucepan in there, and says that he cleaned the kitchen: D
But at first I half. When I still thought that the machine would take root and would work well, at least every other day. Actually, I even bought the plates without the hated flowers and gilding, throwing out the assorted old clothes.

So I think why the compartment did not open, I can’t sleep. It stuck due to the fact that the husband does not follow or has already broken down ... Reaches the utyatnitsa and check how it is there.

[Anna67]

Anna67, it's very good that you wrote your not enthusiastic experience. And then a newcomer will come here, but here the delight is continuous and everything is covered in chocolate. I have something like this. But my love for PM is like the tide of the sea. Either I burn with love and use it twice every day, then I cool down and do not open it for several months. At the moment I love it.

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, how! Is this for desktop, or am I dumb?

[Jiri]

Jiri, Anna67 wrote about the desktop Kandy.

Added on Tuesday 03 Jan 2017 04:42 PM

Jiri, here I am about the same ... Is there a flat siphon? Probably need a sink from the sink in the right corner

I asked my husband this question. He stared at me blankly for a minute (he probably remembered). Then he issued: "Everything was okay."

I have a tabletop Kandy. But I built it under the hob. Already the second. I can't live without her. I use it every day or several times. We live together with my husband. When the first one broke down in December, I moved all payments and needs and bought a new one.

I have a tabletop Kandy. But I built it under the hob. Already the second. I can't live without her. I use it every day or several times. We live together with my husband. When the first one broke down in December, I moved all payments and needs and bought a new one.

I, too, like this) And also recently began to love. Due to lack of time)))

And I took mine out of sight in the lower cabinet and I only cleaned glass jars and plastic containers and spare parts (such as glasses from a blender) in it - it's difficult to wash them with your hands, you will be tormented by stains with a towel. Another grate from the stove. Everything else is easier for me with my hands and not lazy.

Hello everybody! The agony of choice is facing me for the third week. Which dishwasher to buy compact (tabletop) or narrow. There is room for both. The issue of saving light and water is not worth it.
Every day I wash 3 medium plates, 1 large, 3 saucers, 3-5 spoons, forks, mugs (3-4 pcs.) I will wash 1 time a week (after tea I just rinse), 1 4-liter pan is washed 2 -3 times a week, 2 plastic trays a couple of times a week, and 1 frying pan 3-4 times a week, well, once a month my baking sheet 45 * 36 cm in size, hob grills. Well, the rest can be done with pens. Mistresses of little helpers tell me

Which dishwasher to buy compact (tabletop) or narrow. There is room for both. The issue of saving light and water is not worth it.

If space and finances allow, then 45cm is better. It breaks a lot more pori with the same consumption of e-mail. energy and water, you can wash baking sheets and racks from the stove.She herself began the choice with the tabletop, but after looking at it from her sister, I bought myself a 60cm.

Fits a lot more

I don't have it anymore. I described it as it is for every day. Maybe 2-3 more plates on weekends. Family 3 pers. + 1 person once a month. If only half load is included.

[ooonnki]

ooonnki, then take the CD. Many have this.

My father has a dishwasher for 45, lives alone, does not cook himself, only warms up. For a week, the car is typed, sometimes everything at one time cannot be shoved. I have 60, but there are three of us, I start the car on average once a day. Sometimes it’s not a full load, and sometimes twice a day if I’m cooking something. As we bought the car, the water bill was greatly reduced. While repairs were being made, at one time I had to live without a sink, washing dishes over a bucket. So, that would wash only one plate, it was necessary five liters of water.
Look, maybe now you don't have a lot of dishes, but over time everything can change, again sometimes guests come.
In principle, one wash in a large car is cheaper, since the consumption of detergent, electricity and water is almost the same, and you can wash more dishes at a time. You can put both a frying pan and a saucepan in a large one at a time, and if you try too hard, then the baking sheet may fit. And you won't put the grates in a large tabletop pan, you still have to wash it with your hands. And then it makes sense to buy a dishwasher and still wash it by hand?

[Gingi]

Gingi, Galya, your dad ONE lives. But here, after all, there is a woman in the house. Where he will wash with his hands and rinse. It also fucks into a little hmm. Also a baking sheet from the large oven on top. But when there are guests, then yes, I launch it twice a night.

And the last question: will a 45 * 36 cm baking sheet fit into a compact one?

Eee Perplexed. I don’t know the size, but this is a baking sheet from 4 camphor stoves. Stands sideways. On the one hand, you can shove something else, but I wash him alone. And I also have a small baking sheet. He's like a small oven. Here I can put it on top of the dishes.

Thank you, I wanted to wash him alone, went on to think

[ooonnki]

ooonnki, Imagine that a tabletop dishwasher differs from 45 cm by 1/3, not half less. It is wider and has a capacity of 2/3 of 45 cm. The dishwasher is 45 cm higher. Already, it has an advantage - two rocker arms. In my desktop Kandy, I do not like to push two layers, it may not rinse because of one rocker. If crammed in layers, the bottom of the pan (for example) may not be washed. In Indesite, there was no such thing at 45 cm (it has 2 rocker arms). But if the dishes are laid out evenly, then everything is perfectly washed in the tabletop. I'm happy with my desktop. But Indesit is good for 45 soaps. I just sold an apartment with appliances and a kitchen. Comparison of the table and 45 cm did. The topics have infa.

[Chamomile1]

Chamomile1, now the torment of choosing between a table Kandy and a typewriter (45 cm) Beko DFS 26010 W.
For a narrow one, you need to redo the countertop, and for a small one you need to remove the microwave (I don't know where). Three plates and three forks have been soiled tonight, and that's it, daddy will come at night and stain another plate.

Hello again everyone! All the same, I decided to buy a Veko, 45 cm, I go to the site - and they are no longer there, I do not consider other sites, I'm afraid it will be difficult to return if that.
Last weekend, I finally got to the store with a PPM. Finally, I saw them live, yeah, they are all different - programs, grilles, metal, plastic, etc.
I looked closely at the narrow ones - it's still too big for me. But my mind keeps repeating - take this one, it will be easier to connect, the water is near, the countertop will not occupy, two sprinklers ... Well, okay, I'm looking at the Veko model without a display, I still think I'm making up my mind (I'm used to all equipment with a display) on the site Already the temperature has risen. Well, I will not buy any dishwashers, I thought, and again went to the Internet.
So, I need a ppm with foldable plate holders and programs that are not very long.
Prices for compact and narrow ones are almost the same now.And since they are the same, you have to take more. I decided on the reviews for Hansu 45cm. Then we passed Mvideo, went in - there is a beauty. I’ll try on it as I’ll load the dishes into it, and then my back was twisted.
ALL! Enough with me, I will buy a desktop, figs with this tabletop.
The girls ... chose the Electrolux 2400, wanted a red one - again they ran out, BUT tomorrow they will bring a white truth, when they ordered the dummies immediately, they climbed up - but actually I need it?
Now I don't think so anymore, I'm all in anticipation

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, tell me how in the second version you installed the machine, more specifically - where do the hoses pass through: are they on the floor or are they fixed to the wall? On page 17

The kitchen is made to order. This niche was specially conceived for PMM. There is a blank back wall. The husband cut holes in it for pipes and wires. Kaneshno could somehow be civilized in the cable channel, but we have done everything to "get off". Hoses and wires go out into the hole, then on the floor, then the hose goes into the drain, and the cord goes into the outlet (it is near the baseboard).

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, I also have a kitchen the same as yours, but “someone” told me that hoses cannot be put on the floor, as if the machine would work worse, but in your experience, is everything okay?
And my hoses will be 3 meters long, taking into account up and down.

[Bijou, Sens]

Hmm, I don’t know. It is necessary for experienced specialists, such as Bijou, Sens, ask. In my opinion, everything is fine. Maybe the water remains somewhere THERE in the pipe, I don't know. But transferring, for example, a simple sink to another place in the kitchen. And the drain is pulled into the sewer.

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, thank you very much for your reply

My desktop Electrolux has been living in the village for three years now, it works almost every day, there are two of me and my husband, but we grundy for the day, we barely fit into the dishwasher, for that all washing up to 10 liters of water, mine is mainly on the "cup mode -mugs ", I buy a powder, do not cut tablets for our babies
There was a question why the dispensary with the powder did not open, I had this once, but I quickly figured it out, put a tall glass next to the dispenser, and it blocked the opening of the dispenser lid. In general, a good car, though not quiet

By the quietness, I can also say that it is not quiet. If there was a door to the kitchen, it would be a different matter. And so a rather loud gurgle of water. Of course you get used to it, but nevertheless ...

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, and we do not have a door, so I don't start at night

I never bought the Electrolux (which I regret now). They called that they were taking me and then my husband started: "You can't put hoses on the floor, it will stink and blah, blah ...", I refused. The next day I ordered Veko 26010 45cm, it will be closer to the water. They brought it, but it did not get up in depth. It climbs out from under the countertop by 5 cm. Today, I unrolled the kitchen floor myself (I’m lying without arms, without legs), I moved everything - it didn’t climb anywhere. And so, of course, she is beautiful💕. Tomorrow we will take it back to Moscow to take it back.
Also booked a desktop Hansa, the Electroluxes were dismantled.
And now even more thoughts: how to connect, do I need it at all (crazy thoughts), and is it safe (child 3 years old). But if I don’t buy it tomorrow, then until the next renovation ... and there, you see, the assistant will grow up.

Hansa, it's a good company, I have a narrow Hansa in my city, it's been 8-9 years old, I'm not complaining, it's not quiet by the sound, but at least there are doors in the city, it closed and you can't hear behind it. And I have Hansa's washing machine in the village. They are not made in China, at least mine are made in the EU.

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, thanks, now I think I can shove it instead of the oven, and the oven is closer to the refrigerator. It will not be beautiful, but the machine will fill the entire tabletop with itself.

Experienced desktop users, take a look at the Candy CDCP 8. I am very interested in your opinion, taking into account the experience of real use of babies. The machine is 2-tier, while the cube is compact. I have a daughter and my husband, but they are absent for half a week. It turns out that the house is thick and empty.Now they are practically not on sale - they are over. On the hotline, the candidate said the delivery would be in April. I really look forward to your opinion.

Evgenia, went and looked ... Here I sit and think, I have different-sized plates. It happens that they almost reach the very roof a little. I think the upper basket will be very limited in height. Is it removable, by the way? Nothing is ours for this. If not, then don't take it.

Consider myself an experienced user. If there are a lot of high pots and plates, then I agree with Irina's remark, they may not enter and have to wash with their hands or remove the upper basket (if it is removable). But, in this machine, I liked the two rocker arms. It is clear that cutlery, low cups, bowls, salad bowls, a multi steamer will be washed upstairs. Well, that's how I would use it for myself. I would buy one for myself. I don't have many high pots, one is tall and I would wash it with my hands, especially since I don't need it so often in the household. And the convenience of the upper basket would be important for me. Moreover, I already wrote that I consider one rocker to be the disadvantage of desktop dishwashers. The tabletop PMM does not wash well if you put dishes in several layers. If there are salad bowls at the bottom, and on top of them put a colander or a multi steamer. I tried so, it is badly washed precisely because of the lack of a second rocker arm. In my outdoor Indesit, this sandwich was perfectly washed. So I'm in favor of a tabletop with two rockers. But, we must proceed from our dishes. And find the dimensions from the bottom to the top rocker, how much height is there? Maybe it wouldn't work for me, despite the small pans.

Thank you girls. I'll go look for a video. Hope you can look at it in the store

If there are salad bowls at the bottom, and on top of them put a colander or a multi steamer.

In small machines, laying dishes is a "puzzle", a kind of puzzle. I put it mainly in 2 layers, taking into account the fact that I have one rocker in the PMM and from below, then a colander, a double boiler, a sieve, will just go down, and they already have "opaque" dishes. Place a large bowl on top of a small one. Salad bowl for a mug, etc.
The girls have already said everything correctly, I will just repeat. Surely two rockers are better than one! The main thing is that the upper shelf is removed, otherwise the large-caliber dishes will remain outside the PMM.

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, I tried to put one on one on everyone. Either I have a low-power PMM, or I am "baluvanaya", it washes me badly, if I put it that way. Refused this idea. Or waiting for the second bookmark, or some not greasy and not heavily soiled things with my hands.



Reader007, take with you the tallest, tallest pan that you plan to wash in the PMM. And the most voluminous dish that you will wash in the PMM. I have a huge dish, it does not fit into the PMM, I wash it only with my hands, but I rarely use it. I don't need it in my everyday life, only for the holidays. And so I'll wash it with my hands.

my hoses will be 3 meters long

the maximum length of the hoses (included in the kit + additional set for their extension) is 3.6m.

I found good video reviews here. Everything seems to fit. I can't post a link. If you're interested, take a look at the online trade. Found in the description - the distance between the baskets is 35 cm, from the lower basket to the upper spray arm - 30.
Yesterday Ikea looked at the building. They are kind of flimsy

Brought me to Ali today. I got such an interesting baby, but the price.
Bala would be 7, not 47, one could think of it as a second additional one, so as not to save up dishes in a large one until it is fully loaded.

Cute, but oh-very small, and also delivery of 11411r, absolutely crazy. It is not clear who will buy for that kind of money.
At the same seller, a food dryer - well, poured grass