Tabletop dishwashers

[Chardonnay]

Chardonnay, I have a built-in kitchen. And the countertop rests on the sides of the kitchen cabinets. The washing machine stands on the edge with the side of the cabinet made on the side and the countertop lies on top. My table top continues further into the corner. And it does not lie on the washer, but hangs from above without touching it. The lid of the washer has been removed so that everything fits into the size in height.

That's about the same with me. The picture is not mine. Only a sink from the other corner, where the boxes are in the picture. And at the place of the sink, I just have a solid countertop and there is equipment on it. Due to the fact that the tabletop of the washing machine does not touch from above, you can put anything you want. Nothing vibrates.

Yeah, got it, thanks! My washing machine is on its own, without a countertop. This means that you need to remove the lid in order to arrange a tabletop on top of the "legs".
Well, there is nothing more permanent than temporary! 10 years have passed since we moved in, so nothing has been done, like with people

This means that you need to remove the lid in order to arrange a tabletop on top of the "legs".

It may not be necessary. It's just that when I moved, I put in an old kitchen set and had to buy a new stove, because the local old one didn't work. I bought a good, expensive stove. And then, when I bought a dishwasher and began to put a built-in kitchen set, the height of the set had to be adjusted to the height of the stove. Because it was already a pity for money for a hob and a separate oven, and there was no money. And so, I am tall, my son, too, and the height of the countertop, so that it is higher than the washing machine and dishwasher with lids, would suit me perfectly. But, now as it is, the height of the kitchen cabinets is standard.

can i put a small dishwasher on the washing machine? What threatens both of them?

It is possible, but it is fraught with consequences, as a rule, the washing machine vibrates during operation, and the garbage can, in view of the lightness of the structure, can simply fall off. Again, vibrations are detrimental to some dishes.

and the trash can, in view of the lightness of the structure, can simply fall over.

Logically, I somehow did not think about it. Thank you, I will.

All in thought, the brain is already boiling. In MVideo, the last day is an action for the desktop PMM Midea MCFD-0606, do I need PMM at all? (live alone). If anyone has such a brand, write, plizz, how does it work? And I don’t understand something, to connect to the drain, do I have to make holes somewhere in the countertop? It will stand next to the sink.

[SvetlanaMazqarovna]

SvetlanaMazqarovna, PMM is often put under the sink. Desktop PMM is like a half of a large machine. For one user, I don't even know if it's needed.

[SvetlanaMazqarovna]

SvetlanaMazqarovna, I also live alone, after I bought a dishwasher my nails became stronger. For 2 days, a full dish runs over, and if I cook, then I have to wash it every day. Plus water saving, plus everything washes very well, although I set it at half the time for washing. I'm glad.

Plus water savings

By the way, yes, noticeably

[Lilida]

Lilida, Usyo, did not buy. While I was looking for reviews on Midea, the action on her ended. And the action is so, in the online store. Delivery to MVideo is still 1790, so maybe I'll wait for the shares in retail. If I got hooked on the dishwasher, I will slowly try to implement it. sazalexter, I understand with my mind that I don't really need it, but I've already picked up the virus. In reality, I saw all the options in magicians, my kitchen is not small, any can be placed, I will not save up the dishes to the full.Thank you all for responding late, now interest is growing, maybe I will turn to the collective mind more than once.

[And I'm thinking about buying such a baby: flavia td 55 valaraI want to see it in the store, tell me what to look for, what to ask the consultants about when choosing?]

And I'm thinking about buying such a baby: flavia td 55 valara

I want to see it in the store, tell me what to look for, what to ask the consultants about when choosing?

Look if the pins fold (although in small ones most likely not), how the water hardness is regulated (I'm very tricky in Boch), a delayed start is said to be a convenient thing (I don't have it), protection from children, in my opinion, is luring money. It's good to have a pre-rinse (I don't, but sometimes I should).

[And I'm thinking about buying such a baby: flavia td 55 valaraI want to see it in the store, tell me what to look for, what to ask the consultants about when choosing?]

And I'm thinking about buying such a baby: flavia td 55 valara

I want to see it in the store, tell me what to look for, what to ask the consultants about when choosing?

Well, this is a compact machine, if there is no room for a large one, then the option is pretty good.
And so, in compact dishwashers there are usually no special bells and whistles.
Pay attention to its installation dimensions in the diagram, what operating modes it has, whether the capacity of 6 sets is enough for you, how the dishes are stacked, is there room for cups and cutlery and do you like it externally?)

Here in this photo it is more or less clear that how

The PM eats up a lot of space on the table. If this is a problem, then just take it down. Run through Temka, there is a photo of how someone is standing

ideal dishwasher, simple design
no problems with salts and modes

Demonstration Richard (owner) presenting the Electrolux Dishmaid Dishwasher, manufactured in 1961. Its manually using a small electric motor to drive the laundry basket; you simply connect the hose to your hot tap and fill. It has an automatic drain and overflow, when water flows through the drain, you turn off the hot water and the time for the wash program.

Detergent and rinse aid is added through the door slider from the top, when the dishes are properly cleaned, drain the water, refill and rinse. On the last rinse, add rinse aid to aid air drying.

I would take this

Is it difficult to connect it?

[SchuMakher]

SchuMakher, PM is connected in the same way as a washing machine. Water supply and sewerage.

That is, what is big, what is small, the same?

[SchuMakher]

SchuMakher, Is the same. Only if you put it on the countertop, you will have to make a hole in the countertop for the hose. Or like mine, where the machine stands, the kitchen cabinet is pulled out from the wall and there are drain and bay hoses. But this is only possible if the lockers are freestanding. And in this place the curbstone is not pushed close to the wall, there is a large gap, but this does not bother me, since there is a PM.

We want to stuff it under the sink, there is no meta at the top

I would take this

Well? For a few plates and cups?
There is a saucepan, large dishes, you can't put some dish in. And the scoops, big shovels, cans?

[SchuMakher]

SchuMakher, under the sink, you can connect everything right there, then nothing needs to be moved or cut out. I have a 40 cm worktop between the stove and the sink. Everything else is occupied by the PM. I do everything at the usual dinner table. But there are two of us, there are much more of you))))

[SchuMakher]

SchuMakher, why did they decide to use a tabletop, and not at least just a narrow dishwasher?
After all, the tabletop is almost like a narrow dishwasher in dimensions, but it is laid on its side.
And for your family, after each meal, it will need to be launched, it is not large enough.

[Taia]

Taia, everything is so tight that there is only a place under the sink. 6 sets are easily included, but for electricity as a cartoon ... I don't know if you really need it or not. A lot of dishes only after dinner, and so, ugh, five minutes and no shame

I haven't decided yet.

Beckoning, if there is a material opportunity, take it. Even if you will wash one dinner.I have it at the dacha, the capacity is normal (and the bowl rises from the mv, and the plates intentionally), rarely, when I start it twice in a row, but how much time is free.
Shl. Only mine is not the same as in the video, I was talking about the usual one.

I support Mistletoe - take it. I can't imagine how to live without a dishwasher.

Well, we looked after the Electrolux for 12 thousand, let's go and see in the M-video .... Melk, does she take water from the well at the dacha or do you have a sewer?

I have wiring around the house from the well, the machine was connected through adapters to the existing pipes, and the drain into the pit also through the sink drain. Before winter, I take it out into the street, turn it over completely so that the water drains out and does not break in winter.

[SchuMakher]

SchuMakher, Mash, sketch the kitchen plan in cupboards / centimeters. Maybe the collective mind will manage to enter 45 cm?

Man, come to visit Luchche!

With a bottle or a tape measure?

Man, just come, everything is there!

And after the repair, I moved the PM to the window and made it higher (under it a box with dishes that are rarely used). It's much more convenient that way. It used to be under the sink. It is covered with doors from the sink. I didn't really like these "you open your purse, you take out your purse, you close your purse, you open your purse ..." And it was very low to bend over. And right now, such a beauty!

Yes, and it was low to bend. And right now, such a beauty!

Vooot. And what am I talking about. I put it on the tabletop so that they wouldn't bend at all. And it is not much smaller than 45 cm. Mugs, glasses I now wash with my hands, I used to put them in the upper basket. But what is there to wash?

[iris. ka]

iris. kaAnd if it is under the sink, I looked, then the siphon interferes with it ... Is there any special one?

[SchuMakher]

SchuMakher, Mash, yesterday I crawled under the sink with a tape measure. Even if you put a flat siphon, I still don't fit

[Jiri]

Jiri, here I am about the same ... Is there a flat siphon? Probably need a sink from the sink in the right corner

[SchuMakher]

SchuMakher, I'll come home from work and ask my husband. I don't remember myself.

[always]

I was asked a question about the dishwasher in a personal. I will answer here. I've been going for a long time.
The conditions of my life. This is important because everyone lives in different ways and dishes are stored in different ways. We live together with our son. I always at home, my son studied (school, then a technical school) was at home after 16-00, now he works at home after 17-00. I cook myself, but without frills, that is, the usual cooking first, second and tea (coffee) + muffin is not every day. I prepare bread, ham, yogurt myself. I eat often and a little 5-6-7 times a day. I like to put salad or marinades next to each other on a separate saucer. With the purchase of a dishwasher, I had to get additional plates and buy more spoons and forks.
I had a 45 cm freestanding Indesit dishwasher. But she was standing under the countertop with the lid removed. In principle, a normal dishwasher, ordinary. No additional frills. After several years of operation, the engine burned out in it, I changed it. When moving in early 2016, she left the apartment with the kitchen to the new owners. I didn't wash the baking sheets in it, I didn't practically use the oven. Or I used paper, molds, etc. The biggest thing I stuffed into the dishwasher was an airfryer, 3-liter cans, glasses and refrigerator boxes. And so the usual daily wash. Lots of plates, bowls, pots, pans, cups, jars, glasses and forks. Launched daily. Almost always complete. If there were not enough dishes, which happened very rarely, then I washed, for example, a lid from a microscope, soap dishes from the bathroom and kitchen, or something else that is not washed daily, but it is necessary to wash it. Sometimes I started it several times a day if I cooked a lot and stained a lot of dishes or a lot of food containers accumulated.
When moving, I bought a table dishwasher. The main criterion for this choice was that it was not necessary to lean towards it. I have health problems and often had to wait for my son to disassemble and start the dishwasher. This is very inconvenient, so I donated the countertop and do not regret it.The tabletop dishwasher is not much less than 45. It is about 1/3 less. Of the shortcomings. Three-liter cans do not fit into my Kandy. If you wash the airfryer, then you won't put anything special. Do not overload one by one. Because the arm is one and may not wash well the folded dishes. Refrigerator parts do not fit into the machine. Now I wash mugs and cups with my hands, some bowls and containers with my hands too, if I see that there are a lot of dishes and not everything will fit. But with my hands only what is not greasy, after rice-pasta without gravy. Sometimes, if I run a lot of dishes twice a day. But, usually, I launch it once a day. I don't feel the inconvenience of changing the dishwasher from 45 cm to the desktop one. Is that 3-liter cans do not climb. But I have few of them. I'm happy with the purchase of the desktop. to install this dishwasher, the kitchen cabinet is not close to the wall, there is a gap for water supply and drainage, but it is behind the dishwasher and does not bother me.

In-in, I, if I wish, or not, on the contrary - when I am lazy to wash something with my hands I shove a lot into the PM. I also put a small baking sheet on top of the plates.
And how I love her on holidays! You can't say that.

Is there a flat siphon?

I have a flat siphon from Ikea between the sink and the dishwasher, but the drain pipe is only on the side of the machine, but I have a table under the sink of 80 cm.

[zhita]

zhita, in, I also have a washing table 80 cm ... Buckets don't live there, because if a trash bin lives there, then a brazen red mouse lives there at night ... Vegetables don't live there for the same reason, only onions live, patamushta mice do not pitayuzza onions ... So it is quite possible to sacrifice the washing space. So Manka will come with a fufirik, measure everything, see the complete lack of free space in my kitchen and you can buy ... The current must first change the kitchen facades So there are a lot of plans

[SchuMakher]

SchuMakher, and how does the mouse open the table? Paw? Julie has talent!

[SchuMakher]

SchuMakher, and how does the mouse open the table? Paw? Julie has talent!

she scratches the doors with her paw, the doors move, she sticks her nose into the hole and, oh-pa, she’s there .... They didn’t stick it up for the night, that’s all, the mouse goes hunting. Then I came from Ashan, put the vegetables there ... At night I hear a crunch, I went to look, stole a carrot and gnaws If she opens the zipper on my backpack, then all her doors

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zhita, Tan, but take a picture of the general plan, please, how it looks, well, from door to door)

A table 80 cm is good, only it is necessary that the sewer pipe is on the side. If anything, I live in Belyaevo, you can come and see.

Only now I am leaving, write in a personal, in the evening we will agree on a time.

In short, it is necessary to cut off the existing sewage system and drag it to the side, along the wall. Everything will be more expensive than a railway bridge. And to clean up the dirt ..

[Jiri]

Jiri, what? We are all at the wall, the current siphon interferes ...

[SchuMakher]

SchuMakher, and we have all the pipes in the middle, you probably have newer (younger) houses

Ir, our 9-storey building is antediluvian, like Zhita's in the picture, the current sink is on the right

[SchuMakher]

SchuMakher, Masha, did you manage to buy, what did you plan? We already have no such