Petrof
Quote: Ksentia Lopez

Recently, I've only baked quick bread - with kefir, milk, with dry kvass.
You can ask you for these recipes, if it does not bother you, then you can in a personal profile or a link.
Iren
I have to bake for a couple of days, I take the yeast saf-moment and the bread is excellent.
And yesterday I kneaded the dough for pancakes and put saf-levure, they didn't fit well.

Question:
1.Is it better to use the saf-moment?
2. Which ones count for quick bread?
fugaska
for Iren
no matter what yeast - the main thing is to use it correctly! saf-moment is poured into flour, and saf-levure is poured into water.
Iren
fugaska, thanks.
Now everything is clear. And I put all the yeast down, and the water does not touch them.
Grunya
[fugaska / b] Your yeast bread recipe was highly recommended to me. I understand it Darnitsky. If this is the one, then I found the recipe. And if not, then please share the recipe.
Andreevna
Grunya, I meant this bread
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...smf&Itemid=89&topic=596.0
Just watch out for the bun, I mixed a little wheat flour in the process of kneading, there was a lot of liquid.
Grunya
Thank you very much for the reference !!!
If honestly I just kneaded this one at lunchtime and in the evening when I came home from work I will have this bread!
I am already thinking about other recipes, so many things I want to try !!!!!!!!!
Admin
Quote: Petrof

Hello users and members !!
For several years I used Panas 253, now I took the 255th, something is not working out everything, but I have 2 questions for you:
1- It does not work according to the recipe for the 255th model "thin dough" for pizza - sticky and wet. Has anyone done this recipe?

2- I bought SAF-LEVURE active yeast 100 gr. bag - neither 2-hour nor 4-hour or even 6-hour French rises, a dull brick turns out. yeast in ball granules, I took the same Polish (not SAF) - everything is cool. Can anyone tell me what here?
Sincerely.

Pay attention to what kind of yeast you buy, their purpose is written on the bags: bread rolls, biscuits, pizza, etc. You need fast-acting yeast for baking bakery products.
It is better to take such yeast SAF-moment (there are fakes), Dr. Etker, Farmipan.
SAF-levure is not necessary to buy.

A dull brick can also be due to a mismatch in the balance of flour and liquid,
Read carefully about the formation of a wheat ball, or rye for rye bread. This is a very important condition for the formation of bread dough.
Ksentia lopez
Quote: Petrof

You can ask you for these recipes, if it does not bother you, then you can in a personal profile or a link.

On the site, it seems that you cannot give links, and a personal message is not sent, so I wrote everything to the email that is in your profile.
Ludmila
Links can be given, but only those that need to be cut and pasted into the address bar. Not active are called like ...
Petrof
SAF-levure is not necessary to buy.

Saf - Levure went great after 30 seconds in the grinder!

Read carefully about the formation of a wheat bun, or rye for rye bread. This is a very important condition for the formation of bread dough.
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Where to read, I did not find something on the site. For several years of use, I have not encountered such a problem, because I almost did not make the dough in a bread maker, but did it "by eye" in a combine (count almost with my hands), and now I want to say: "People! Fear God! How is this According to the recipe, the pizza dough turns out to be normal? Yes, you also need to add about 100 ml of flour! Then this notorious kolobok can and will turn out. And all the same, the dough is sticky, it doesn't get out of the bucket well.
Has anyone made pizza dough? "
Andreevna
Quote: Petrof

Has anyone made pizza dough? "
I did the previous Friday. I confirm, according to the recipe, there is clearly not enough flour, the dough that stuck to the sides of the bucket was not taken out well, I had to mix flour on the table and a lot. Previously, I did according to the recipe without adhering to the instructions, but how I felt myself, that is, observing the proportions of liquid-flour, everything was great.
GrunyaHow did you get the bread?
Grunya
I report:
1. made a darnitsky from a fugasca - we didn't really like it with my husband, but the child just grinded ALL ... a loaf. Although it turned out perfect !!!! It's just that my husband and I all wanted more rye taste. But she didn't even have time to cool down. Moreover, his crust is beyond praise.
2. made pure rye with kifir. Someone from the forum gave a recipe for Anyuta. The gingerbread man did not rise at all, but ... It turned out tight, but oooooooooooo delicious. One to one like the Mariinsky. Do not forget that 100% rye flour.
3. I also made cake from Elena Bo. delicious, magnificent. But some work is needed here. Got up gorgeous, almost took the lid off the stove. But for us, there is very little baking, I will not put nuts and cherries. In short, I'll experiment myself. Try to run in the recipe, I'll do it this weekend. And for the cakes, you need to put a light crust. I left the middle one - a little more and would be burnt (literally at the limit).
4. And of course I tasted onion bread. Beyond praise. Next time I'll try with fried onions. And soooooooooo delicious, I recommend it to everyone. Although the little child flatly refused to eat it.
I also want to say. The dough for dumplings is just great (from a book from Panasonic), but ... you can't leave it in the refrigerator for other days. I had 1.5 days. I did it later, I was all exhausted. Creeps, sticks, although I hand in a lot of flour, but it’s not that. So I advise you to recycle it at a time.
I had some pies. And gallop more plans .... !!!!!
Grunya
And yet I still have a question. Can the stove be left plugged in at all times ???
Can someone tell me what !?
fugaska
in principle, you can - you still turn off the toggle switches on the stove ... if the case does not "shoot", then there are no problems
Uncle Sam
Quote: Petrof

But now I want to say: "People! Fear God! How does this recipe for pizza dough turn out to be normal? Yes, you need to add about 100 ml of flour! Then this notorious kolobok can and will work out. And all the same, the dough is sticky, it doesn't come out well ...
Has anyone made pizza dough? "
I made pizza according to Panasonic recipe more than 3 times. The pizza was perfect!
The dough is really sticky, and the store's yeast is the same!

I only turn off the stove when I clean the insides. Once a month. And so it is constantly on the network, in standby mode (there is nothing on the display). This is a nice difference from LG.
Petrof
Xentia - my respect and thanks for the message in PM, I read it with gratitude, we will do it.
Grune - I didn't make bread and onions, but where to read? And yet, I really love butter bread - I made different cakes - the recipe turns out very well, but even with the "light crust" mode it will still be burnt due to the ratio of sugar-butter-raisins, I took it for granted. And yeast is better to take a saf moment for baking - the aroma of vanilla is stronger than in a recipe where simple yeast and vanilla sugar are, but who loves it. And yet - how did you do pure rye bread? At one time I downloaded a lot of recipes from the Internet - nothing worked out fine, and then on the issue of add-ons and ferments for black bread I met a technologist of an operating bakery, he explained a little to me about baking black bread - in short, in a home bread machine in automatic or semi-automatic mode unrealistic, the process of making black bread at the factory lasts 1.5-2 days.
Grunya
As for rye bread, the recipe is not at work, I will definitely write it off tomorrow.
I read onion bread in yeast dough recipes, look at mulberries: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...topic=400.0... Toka I will fry the onion next time. Although you will eat your fingers anyway. I followed the kolobok, made it according to the recipe for 680 gr.loaf, but counted on Panasonic.
I also highly recommend bread made from leftovers (from dinner) of boiled rice. Very tasty. If I need to write a recipe, I read it somewhere on cooking.
Andreevna
Grunya, maybe this recipe:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...smf&Itemid=26&topic=608.0
I was just looking for a rye bread recipe and came across it.
Grunya
yes, so the address, but the current is the one that Fugaska gives, with kefir. In the process of kneading, in addition to that flour, I added somewhere else 2 tbsp. spoons. And it is better, as the fugasca advised, to take out the dough after kneading (which I did not, so the bun was baked in one corner of the form, and the corner of the other remained free), form a loaf and put it back.
But I, since no one is allergic to wheat, 1/3 of rye flour can be replaced with wheat. I think it will be even better.
And so very tasty bread, but tight and dense.
Grunya
AndreevnaThank you very much for the reference. And then I'm like that;) forgetfulness, I promise, but in the evening I can forget. And the little man will wait for the recipe. And then I burn out of shame.
Iren
I came to show off my rye bread !!!
Still certainly not ideal, but I strive.
Bread maker Panasonic SD 255 (part 1)
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Celestine
Quote: Iren

I came to show off my rye bread !!!
Still certainly not ideal, but I strive.

I want to note that the bread is beautiful, I got it like this for 3-4 times, the first was a wonderful chocolate color, tasty, but sticky and low
Grunya
CONGRATULATIONS ON BREAD !!!
And I, too, so far everything poluchaetsya .... mmm ....!
And yesterday I tried rye, which is with coffee and cocoa (I don't remember whose recipe). We haven't tried it yet, but got up, the bread maker almost blew the roof off. And the smell !!!! It's too bad that I can't take pictures.
Petrof
Grunya
Iren

I have something rye does not rise, but what is your recipe?
Lydia
Of course, I joined the discussion late, but still ... Since July of this year, I've been baking 255 in Panasonic. Until I ruined ANY loaf. Even when the electricity was turned off for an hour (and the baking process was in full swing). I just finished baking it afterwards. It turned out worse than usual, but it is quite possible to eat. Baked bread with bran, 3 types of rye, just white, chocolate, with candied fruits, with fried onions. Everything is very cool. And the automatic dispenser is not superfluous at all.
Grunya
Lydia - and share the recipes for rye bread. Even with bran. Please, you can in a personal.
Petrof You are interested in pure rye, or wheat flour is allowed. If purely rye, then a little higher I gave a reference. It didn’t rise, of course (this is rye), but if in this recipe you replace a little rye flour with wheat flour, it will be great.
And yesterday I baked according to this recipe: sorry for the plagiarism, but I don't remember where I dug it on the forum.
Here is a recipe that definitely always works. The bread comes out fluffy, the roof never fails and the taste is very good. Where I got it - kill it, I don't remember. Maybe even here on our forum. Sorry for the plagiarism, if that.
• 1.25 cups of water
• 2 tablespoons of 5% apple cider vinegar
• 1.5 tablespoons of milk powder
• 2 tablespoons of butter
• 1 tablespoon brown sugar or honey
• 1.5 teaspoons of salt
• 1 teaspoon cocoa powder
• 1 teaspoon of instant coffee powder
• 2.5 cups wheat flour
• 1 cup rye flour
• 2 teaspoons dry yeast

Place the food in the bread maker in the order described in the instructions for your bread machine. Cut the butter into small pieces. Place salt, sugar, cocoa and coffee in different corners of the bread machine. Put the yeast in the center of the flour in the groove missing to the water. Breadmaker mode "Basic", medium crust. If you like, you can add the same coriander or caraway seeds. You can also try the whole grain mode. HIGHLY RECOMMEND!

I used a little less wheat flour, but then added it in the process of kneading. Loaf size XL. So I advise you to reduce it. The recipe went through the test, because after filling everything I realized that I had forgotten to install the mixer. I had to put it with my hands, turning everything over, naturally. I added both cumin and coriander. Delicious bread !!!! Recommend!!!!
I also replaced milk powder with 1 cup of milk and 0.25 cups of water.I have a cup of 310 ml. So I advise you to reduce the dose.
Iren
Celestina, Grunya, thank you !!!
Today I baked rye again, it turned out even better.
Petrof, a recipe from a bread machine, but less water is needed there.
Bran bread.
Dry yeast 2 tsp
Wheat flour 225g
Rye flour 200g
Rye bran 3 tbsp. l (I take wheat germ)
Sugar 1.5 tbsp. l
Salt 1.5 tsp
Powdered milk 2 tbsp. l
Water (prescription 430), and I take 330 ml.
if you take more, it turns out sticky.
Petrof
So I already wrote that you can buy SAF-Levure, we simply did not have others in the store, I bought and ground them in a coffee grinder - I baked with different breads and made dough for pizza - ground yeast works great, though I for distrust, just in case, put on the floor a teaspoon more, but I think this is not necessary.
Petrof
But no, SAF-Levure, even crushed, does not allow doughing in fast mode, the dough does not have time to "come up", only from 4 hours per cycle, so excuse me if you misled anyone. After all, they are "active", and the usual PAF - "high-speed" - this is the difference.
SergeyKa1
Done !!! Take in your ranks.
I bought 255 stove, now I can't wait for the end of the working day ...

Maybe I'll even take a leave early so I can try bread tonight
Uncle Sam
Congratulations! We accept!
Start with a simple (NOT quick) wheat bread. Just be sure to check the kolobok.
Andreevna
Welcome to our ranks. Good luck!
SergeyKa1
Andreevna
Thank you
Uncle Sam
special thanks, because I got you by mail
kapitoschka
Good evening everyone. And please enroll me in your ranks. Actually, I was not going to buy a bread maker, but the smell of bread at the demonstration captivated me. Bought Panasonic SD255. Put all the ingredients in. I sit at work and think that I will succeed there.
Andreevna
Happy acquisition and joining the ranks of bakers!
Bread will definitely turn out, you wanted it so much !!!!
Celestine
Quote: kapitoschka

Good evening everyone. And please enroll me in your ranks. Actually, I was not going to buy a bread maker, but the smell of bread at the demonstration captivated me. Bought Panasonic SD255. Put all the ingredients in. I sit at work and think that I will succeed there.

Welcome. In fact, if you leave your bread uncovered for a long time after cooking in the oven, it can become damp.
SergeyKa1
Well! Now I have 2 loaves on my account

Everything worked out great! I expected the taste of a loaf (sliced ​​or near Moscow) but came out purely wheat)))
Tell me how to achieve the same taste as these loaves?
Or is it not realistic at home?

PS: found by search
Celestine
Quote: SergeyKa1

Well! Now I have 2 loaves on my account

Everything worked out great! I expected the taste of a loaf (sliced ​​or near Moscow) but came out purely wheat)))
Tell me how to achieve the same taste as these loaves?
Or is it not realistic at home?

PS: found by search
Be sure to try a loaf of "stagnant times", exactly that taste
Jenny_a
Of all the bread makers, I decided to choose the Panasonic SD 255, I ordered it in the online store 🔗, since the store has long been famous for good quality goods and low prices. Since I live on my own, I decided to pick it up myself (+ get an additional 3% discount). I drove in ... It was happiness! And immediately to the point, - I connected everything, fell asleep, - and the first bread, - rye, with a crust, mmm
But I didn't calm down, I decided to bake a white one in a couple of hours ... I turn on my new stove - but it doesn't work !!! Only the basic four-hour mode of white bread works. day I put the stove in the back seat and took it back to holodilnik. At first they did not want to take, - they say, - Saturday, wait for the next. Wednesday ... I had to swear a little, the controller immediately appeared and another new model ... The controller confirmed that the stove was broken, offered to return the money or replace it with any other, chose the second option ... They brought me a new packed SD255, opened to check, - everything works !!!, and then I go to the stove, press the START / STOP button again, it breaks down, again only the four-hour main mode ... Bottom line, - the whole batch of MARRIAGE ... (9 pieces), and I took LG 155 (sooooo like everything so far)
Korata
oooh .. it's a shame that you didn't write right away. Very disappointing. The point is that ALL ovens were normal !! )) I don't understand the sellers. Or they saw this product there for the first time. The whole problem is that

Quote: Jenny_a


I turn on my new stove - but it doesn't work !!! Only the basic four-hour mode of white bread works ........
They brought me a new packed SD255, opened it for testing - everything works !!!, and then I go to the stove, I press the START / STOP button again it breaks, again only a four-hour main mode ... The result, - the whole batch of BRACK ... (9 pieces), and I took LG 155 (sooooo like everything so far)

Press the Start-Stop button ONLY After how you chose the program you want.
Watch the video - I showed everything there.
🔗
In the first days of operation, I myself caught it several times. But I just realized that I was doing something wrong. I couldn't bake it like this for no reason at all. I took the instructions and did it step by step. And then I understood and laughed at myself))))
Hope
Quote: Bagel

if you accidentally press the start and then supposedly run the start, then the program should be canceled according to the instructions .. but in my case nothing is reset, it only helps to cut it out of the socket for 30 minutes ...
Strange, my program is canceled when I press the START button again. I hold it for about 2 seconds, and the stove turns off.
Bagel
Quote: Hope

Strange, my program is canceled when I press the START button again. I hold it for about 2 seconds, and the stove turns off.

thanks to Korata, I'll try to do it according to the video, maybe it will work .. while my start does not even react before the end of the program
Korata
Quote: Bagel

I also don't like this bug terribly .. besides, if you accidentally press the start and then supposedly run the start, then the program should be canceled according to the instructions .. but in my case nothing is reset, it only helps to unplug it for 30 minutes ...
Quote: Bagel

thanks to Korata, I'll try to do it according to the video, maybe it will work .. while my start does not even react before the end of the program

this is not a bug. A bug is a mistake or a glitch)) And here - I just think - a flaw. Seeing a blank screen, we subconsciously believe that the oven does not work and needs to be turned on))). And the evil capitalists are accustomed to the fact that all their equipment is in standby mode and is just waiting for the command))) Of course, it would be better if at least a triangle would burn (like in a multicooker), or some other sign that the stove is just waiting for a command from you what to do))
And about the video. I’m glad if he helped you, but I think it’s hardly specific in your situation. I made it so that it would be clear what is difficult to explain in words)))))). And if your oven works, then it is strange that the Start / Stop key does not work. I can reset the program at any time. In the process of executing the program, simply press and do not drop for three seconds. She herself will squeak to you that she dropped.
Rustic stove
Dear bakers and bread makers)
I am finally in your ranks.
today they brought my little stove. I fell asleep and filled it in as in the instructions, set the programs, size, crust, pressed START.
on the scoreboard everything is on.
BUT IT'S QUIET INSIDE, NOTHING HAPPENS.
the remaining time decreases (now it is 3:36 instead of 4 hours),
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
is the temperature equalized inside? does the motor not work?
or so it should be?
Sveta
Don't worry, the temperature of the components is equalizing. On the board - the inscription REST. And it will be somewhere around an hour. In general, the fire is going according to plan. Good luck!
Iren
Village stove, everything is fine !!!
First, the temperature is equalized, if time passes, then everything is fine!
Do not touch the stove for 4 hours and see for yourself.
Rustic stove
Girls, thanks !! somewhere after 40 minutes of silence she purred, kneaded), of course, I could not resist, looked inside to look at the bun. The gingerbread man seems to be loose, I added a spoonful of flour (I did it without weights, measured it with a glass, that's why I missed it).
People, thank you for being there !!!
Uncle Sam
Village Stove, if you are wondering why it does not start immediately, read here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=99&topic=167.0

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