julia_bb
Quote: tana33
I bought such a board in Ikea, he says that it gives him pleasure to "shred sausages for a morning boutique for the family" on it, and the board decorates the kitchen)))
Yeah, cool board, I have one too.
Quote: Mona1
I have a new kitchen, but the table, you will not believe it, is rare - from a Soviet headset
I have a similar situation, the table remained from my grandmother's headset, very simple. We thought we’ll change it after the repair, we’ll change it, but it stayed so
Natalia Alexandrovna
good evening. I have already shown the kitchen project for help and advice, but the circumstances so happened that they did not order. Now I took into account your recommendations and again called the furniture maker to order. Look please, otherwise my eye is already blurry, it can change something. A sink in the corner, a cooktop between two cargoes. Furniture for kitchen
cvezu
Quote: Natalia Aleksandrovna
Washing in the corner
I also have a sink in the corner, forks and spoons in the top drawer on the left. I'm so sorry. When someone washes something, three racks are blocked (the one under the sink, on the left with drawers and on the right, and another dish shelf above the sink). Very uncomfortable.
Rita
Natalia Alexandrovna, I would remove the box for spoons and forks from the sink. And I would also install a dishwasher, then the sink would not be so often busy. I also visually dislike the narrow cabinet with two doors to the right of the oven at the top. I would make one wide door. Moreover, to the left of it, all the doors are wide. I also do not understand the meaning of the two narrow vertical boxes at the bottom.
Belka13
Narrow boxes are cargo, bottle holders. For me personally, they are very necessary. And the PMM seems to be also planned - to the right of the sink.
Natalia Alexandrovna
Thank you girls for responding. It seems like you can't move the sink from the corner, there is a dishwasher to the right of it, above it is a dish drainer, a window opens upwards and immediately. For spoons, forks, they decided to put here, so that they could spread it closer from the dishwasher, well, and the cooking room to the left of them, immediately take spoons, ladles. After the oven on the right, the cabinet is as wide as the others, the same. The program dulled something, reduced it. Vertical drawers of a bottle, I also need cargo, it is convenient to store in them
Jouravl
Natalia Alexandrovna, you need to align the leftmost columns along one line. Your door height is different, the handles are also not on the same level. Stick strictly to the line of the upper shelves. Additional overlays can be used to embed the technique, let the manager work through this corner. Yes, and the top shelf with narrow doors will be replaced with one door, is this a shelf for 30?
Rita
Natalia Alexandrovna, the basket with forks and spoons can be easily pulled out of the dishwasher and placed in any place, so I see no reason to put this box near the dishwasher - it will then be very inconvenient. You will regret. My daughter has it. But, of course, it's up to you.
Niarma
I would make the bottom bases at right angles - you win 25-30cm on each side (the beveled corner takes up an unreasonable amount of space) and moved the sink either to the side with the window or to the left side. And I would try to get rid of the "turning" of the upper cabinets to the side of the window - this IMHO clutters up the space
Belka13
No, the left side does not need a sink - I have such a mistake, I block the light, it is inconvenient to wash. And on the right is also not an option. Either the PMM will have to be transferred, or the spray through the window.
Svetta
Quote: Belka13
I block out the light, it is inconvenient to wash.
A small lamp (stick or flat) of daylight is attached above the sink, washing is not a problem anywhere. This is exactly how my sink is located and the lamp hangs.
You can lay a piece of tape of LED lamps under the cabinet, both brightly and not cumbersome.
Belka13
svetta, I have an LED strip hanging, no comparison with daylight. And I don't want to waste energy once again. Nevertheless, we spend a lot of time at the sink, not only with the dishes, but also when preparing food. True, my eyesight is poor, perhaps with good eyesight this moment would not have bothered me so much.
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Niarma
Quote: Belka13
And on the right is also not an option. Either the PMM will have to be transferred, or the spray through the window.
judging by the plan, there is enough space for washing to the window, if you make a right angle. Then the main cooking area will be on the left side between the hob and the sink. If you move the sink to the left, the cooking zone will be opposite the window. Making a normal LED backlight is not a problem, this will not affect the consumption of electricity / energy. And it's better to make changes 10 times at the project stage (transfer the PMM, etc.) than bite your elbows later
Wiki
There is already a VERY roomy kitchen. I would not call a right angle a convenient solution.
It will be at least 100cm in size.
Belka13
Well I do not know. I would have been satisfied with a sink in the place where it is now on the plan. Why transfer it? What is the disadvantage of this location? I’m never a designer, but I don’t understand the problem. Moreover, we also placed the sink at my mother's. It turned out to be very convenient even with a small kitchen.
Svetta
I also have a sink in such a corner, but I have a straight corner, not a beveled one, and a regular rectangular sink with one wing. It is convenient to stand, nothing interferes, I also do not see a problem with the angle.
Belka13
Natalia Alexandrovna, I'm also interested in material and color. Personally, I miss some kind of decor (such as a glass door) to facilitate the facade. I don’t know if I made it clear.
OlgaGera
I would have removed the sink from the corner. In place of the PMM. Pmm moved to the right, under the window. Why? It is extremely inconvenient to climb under the sink in the beveled corner. Have had experience.
Change the same filters. The door is narrow, and the closet is huge and stupid.
Chamomile
A trapezoidal cabinet in the corner is much more convenient to use than a straight blank cabinet. I had both options. But, I would put the sink to the right or to the left of this cabinet. Given the location of the hob, the sink is from the window side. The dishwasher can be moved under the window, it is still under the countertop.




OlgaGera, wrote at the same time So I had an experience when a huge corner trapezoidal cabinet was practically idle due to plumbing communications.
Svetta
Chamomile, Olya, my right angle is not blind, a double door on hinges opens. But yes, there are certain inconveniences, with any corner lower door they are inevitable due to the design.
Chamomile
svetta, understood. I have a blind corner, I have adapted, of course, but if it can be avoided, then I am for a trapezoidal one. I just could not fit it in any way. I drew for myself more than a dozen kitchens, but I still had to compromise and put deaf.
Chamomile
Hello everyone, I'm from the polls. Who has what chairs in the kitchen. Namely chairs and stools. I have an ambush with this. If I knew that it would be like this, they would have restored the old ones. It's just that the price of the restoration corresponded to the price of buying new ones, but I had already thrown out two chairs, stupidly fell apart. Although it looked like a sturdy, welded structure. The plumber welder, whom she asked to be tricky with them, could not do anything, such thin tubes, there is nothing to weld to. Now one stool is swinging, the second is still alive, in short, I have nothing to sit on in the kitchen. The sofa will not rise. And yes, I have a lot of weight, the characteristics should be from 140-150 kg, what would be with a margin. The problem is that when they come to the store, they poke me pictures, we will bring any. And no one can answer how many kg the weight is possible and how comfortable it will be on this chair. A son and a girl were ordered from Ikea, I sat on them, this is not for me. The tubes are thin, it staggers under me. Although it looks beautiful.




And yes, I can’t afford too much.
$ vetLana
We have Ikea (wooden). I do not advise.
If you look for old reliable ones on Avito
Rita
Chamomile, look for beech chairs - they are eternal. Some of our chairs are 27 years old, others - 19. If only henna! As new!
And what is now sold in stores, mainly chairs from Malaysia, China. They are cheap, made of soft wood, they break right away. So, don't be fooled by beauty.
Gingi
Quote: Rita
And what is now sold in stores, mainly chairs from Malaysia, China. They are cheap, made of soft wood, they break right away. So, don't be fooled by beauty.
Malaysian are different. About five years ago we bought chairs and a couple of armchairs, all quite heavy. My relatives are large, respectively, the main criterion for choosing was the carrying capacity. I can't imagine what needs to be done to them to break.
Rita
Gingiunfortunately I have not had such a positive experience with this furniture. I realized that with her you need to be careful when choosing.
Blackout
We bought these chairs for the kitchen Furniture for kitchen very comfortable. But they did not buy at full cost, but at a discount from a discount. 🔗
Cirre
Convenient Kitchen Layout Tips:
The height of the bar counter is 900 mm; it is convenient to serve breakfast on such a bar.
To make breakfast comfortable at the bar, leave a space for your knees. Between chair and table top 350 mm
If you put a bar counter, then you need to hang a lamp over it. The distance from the stand to the light bulb should be 750 mm
But so that the hostess does not run between the kitchen and the table, the optimal distance is 1.2 m
To make it convenient to cut, lay out products, the depth of the kitchen should be 600 mm
In order not to bang the head against the cabinets, and it was possible to conveniently get the plates out of the cabinet, the depth of the wall cabinets should be 300 mm.
The average stool height is 400 mm.
The average height of the kitchen table is 750 mm.

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Ekaterina2
The help of the collective mind is needed. There is a non-standard kitchen. Now I will expose a diagram with dimensions and a photo. I will ship from the phone, so it takes a long time and in parts.
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Sorry for the quality of the photo.
So the questions:
1. Do you see the refrigerator in the corner? I wonder if it might be worth putting it on the other side of the ledge. A narrow, tall refrigerator will fit well into the corner and will not interfere with the passage into the kitchen. A person will live alone, the size will be enough for him.
2. Where it stands now, make a closet to the ceiling, but not very deep, so as not to block the light from the window.
3. Buy a small table and place it next to the ledge, as it stood.
Or put the table in this corner, there will be enough space for two people and, if necessary, you can pull it out in the middle and more people will sit down?
Or something else? ...

Mrs. Addams
Ekaterina2, Katerina, I probably would have introduced a refrigerator, as in item 1. And the table, definitely, would not put it against the ledge. Rather, I would beat him in the vacant corner, near the window. In my opinion, this is much more comfortable.
Cirre
Katerina, the slab by the curtain is not very good, it can move it in the middle.
Where the refrigerator can put a small table or corner with a table, and move the refrigerator behind the column. If the dimensions allow
Gingi
Ekaterina2, the refrigerator can be left in the niche by the window, but move it to the riser. And between the window and the refrigerator, make a cabinet, 50 cm wide and 40-45 cm deep. And the light will not block and it is more convenient to use. In it, you can provide a small niche for a microwave and a couple of drawers for every little thing. You can make several drawers below, then a niche, and above it doors. If you wish, you can hang a cabinet above the refrigerator.
It is better not to put the table to the riser, it will interfere and visually reduce the kitchen.
If a person lives alone, then a table 50 cm wide can be placed in a corner on the other side of the riser, it will fit perfectly and will not interfere. Two people will sit down, and if more come, the table can be pulled out. A corner in a small kitchen, it seems to me, is not a very good option.
And it would be nice to move the stove a little away from the window, put at least a narrow cabinet - it is convenient and fireproof.
Cirre
Or maybe something like this

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Ekaterina2
Quote: Mrs. Addams
I probably would have presented a refrigerator, as in step 1
I'm thinking about sketching the dimensions of the refrigerator on the floor in this corner and see what happens.And put my son to stand instead of the refrigerator, see if it is convenient for mom to pass, I have it full. But it should be okay.
Quote: Cirre
the stove by the curtain is not very good
There, in general, the stove is not in place, it definitely needs to be moved, I agree. And next to the curtain, and far from the sink. But there is a large gas boiler hanging in the middle .... A very "smart" architect hung this bandura exactly in the middle of the wall ...... We also have a boiler in our apartment, but it is shifted to the corner, we closed it with a cupboard and is not visible, but here the kitchen is smaller and very inconvenient. You can transfer it, but ..... so far I can not spend money on this.
Quote: Gingi
make a locker between the window and the refrigerator,
This has to be thought over, it never occurred to me. But there, very long distances are obtained in the "golden triangle" between the sink, stove and refrigerator. But if you still have to put the refrigerator to the window (it will be inconvenient to walk if I put it in front of the ledge), then it will definitely be necessary to do so.
Thank you for your help!
Chamomile
I would put the stove as close to the boiler as the rules allow. By the window I would make a seating area, a table, a sofa, chairs. It is always more pleasant to be by the window, to look at nature. The main thing is not to blow from the window. And if I made some additional lockers, I would have planned them at the entrance, on the right. There is a passable place, if there is no large family, when people constantly migrate to the kitchen, then this will not create inconvenience. I would put the refrigerator at the entrance if it is really one or two people, otherwise it will not be convenient. Or find a place for a refrigerator on the wall of the kitchen unit. Or on the left at the entrance, opposite the window.




I would not put anything to the riser, or you can put a shallow closet to it, literally one jar deep and in the entire riser. Or play it like a slide with glasses and beautiful dishes behind them. I don't like that, but my mom would like it, crystal behind glass. As they used to put in sideboards.
Mrs. Addams
I will add to the option with a seating area and a table by the window (of course, I myself love the table in the form of a bar and always by the window)

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I do not like sharp corners of furniture and especially tables, especially if you put it in some non-standard place
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Maybe something will appeal to you.

Yes, and the riser can simply be decorated - plates, pictures, etc.
OlgaGera
Katya, are we buying new furniture, or from what we are doing?

I like the options with a window sill-table.




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Here's your version. Extend the sink and refrigerator to the exit.
And hang the visor on the riser body. Let him speak ...





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Combine the two. And you can lie down while sitting. ))))
kolobashka
Good people, help!
Built-in gas cooker, German production, is sold with a corner for a gas cylinder. Where can I get a corner for connecting to normal gas?
Ekaterina2
ChamomileAs soon as there is extra money, I will move the stove and the boiler.
Quote: Mrs. Addams
I will add to the option with a seating area and a table by the window
Thank you, there is something to think about. Something I didn’t have the idea to use a window sill, but I have a window sill in my apartment - a continuation of the desks .... I don’t like furniture corners either, I have everything oval.
Quote: OlgaGera
Katya, are we buying new furniture, or from what we are doing?
We buy or make a new one. There is no table there now, the kitchen set is hanging.
Quote: OlgaGera
And you can lie down while sitting. ))))
Sounds perfect!
Quote: Kolobashka
to take a corner of connection to normal gas?
We have a Gazovik store, everything is there. Maybe you have a store like that too? Another option - call your gas service organization, they will "send" you along the right path, and then you will put this stove for service with them.
kolobashka
The organization does not. They can't connect. (They don't know where to look.
Ekaterina2
kolobashka, then let them say what to look for. When we bought the stove, we had these inserts-adapters, we could choose the type of supplied gas, cylinder or pipe which.
kolobashka
They do not know.They bought cooking in the tyrnet, they did not know about these adapters. Previously, we did not have gas.
Gingi
Quote: Kolobashka
Where can I get a corner for connecting to normal gas?
What kind of firm? You can try to search through the brand's service. Some have spare parts in stock, or can be delivered on order.
You can ask around the gas installation firms. slabs. We bought a gas valve and a hose to the stove in the ordinary construction market, maybe they sell adapters ...
kolobashka
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Mirabel
I ask for advice in the arrangement of the kitchen.
A corner kitchen is given and everything starts with a refrigerator and then a sink with a cabinet under it, then a little space to the wall and the continuation of the kitchen space by another 3 meters, after the corner.
I really hope I explained clearly
We tried to make an open version, that is, several shelves and shelves .. not convenient at all. We will order several kitchen cabinets with slave-stu in Ikea.
but how to arrange a corner cabinet? As far as I understand, it will be very inconvenient to get into its bowels in order to extract something necessary.
We are talking only about the lower cabinets, we want to do without the upper
Ekaterina2
Quote: Mirabel
corner cabinet, how to arrange
Nowadays there are many carousel systems that rotate or "exit" from corner cabinets and make them convenient to use. Look at the options on the Internet, you may find something convenient for you.
kseniya D
The same Ikea has corner cabinets with a carousel. I had a corner 90 * 90 in my old kitchen, but there was a sink in there, and under it a bucket, a filter system, dishwasher chemicals and oven trays were there. Very capacious wardrobe. Now I will also put Ikeevskaya with a corner cabinet 120 * 63, but already with a carousel. There I suppose to put pots, bowls, and under the carousel itself there is another 5-7 cm, either trays or flat baking sheets will fit there.
I will also do without upper cabinets. I want lightness
Mirabel
Katerina, Ksenia, I was thinking about corner carousels. but in my opinion. we do not have enough space to the wall ...
but I didn't find anything like that on the Ikea website ...




Ksenia, show & link to your closet
kseniya D
Vika, there was such a corner without a carousel

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And I will put it like this

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Vika, you can come to me. Can you find out the exact dimensions of the walls? )

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