alena40
Can a hob be installed above the built-in PM? I want 2 burners ..
Girls, but how to add a picture from the desktop?
OlgaGera
Quote: Tanya-Fania
I disapprove of the idea of ​​a raised oven.
the experience of using the three options showed the maximum convenience of the raised one.
This is with regards to ergonomics. The loss of space is more important to me.
alena40
Quote: lira3003
It is necessary to remove what the designer has thrown in, get rid of small details ...
We sat next to the consultant, all our wishes were taken into account ... In our city, such prices ...
lira3003
alena40
lira3003,
Quote: lira3003
Lauren's kitchen (never cheap).
Rita, all our facades are imported, Nizhniy Novgorod, St. Petersburg, etc. The closest one is from Tomsk. But there are no such as I want.
lira3003
Quote: Alena40

lira3003, Rita, we all have imported facades, N. Novgorod, St. Petersburg, etc. The nearest one is from Tomsk. But there are no such as I want.

Now it has come ... The client's wish !!!




Alyona, do you have Eldorado in the city?
Tanya-Fanya
alena40... If your planner is unsuccessful, try the IKEA website

And further. Don't be nervous. You have a difficult moment. I would like to minimize errors as much as possible. So take it easy and create your wonderful favorite cuisine.
Good luck!
lira3003
Quote: Tanya-Fania
So take it easy and create your wonderful favorite cuisine.
Gold words!
Tanya-Fanya
lira3003-Ritula! How many pages have been built here with the whole bread maker 😱😂 and the area is large, and all the lower cabinets were dragged either longer or longer 😂😂😂
lira3003
Tatyana, Tanechka that's it! In a dispute, truth is born. And I chose the most acceptable option for myself. Thank you and the girls !!!
My husband also added shelves to the wardrobe. Now I have low shelves too Furniture for kitchen.
As a result, a box under the LH was freed.
Wiki
Quote: lira3003
One bottle-holder looks beautiful when two stand symmetrically. And the price for it
I have one and normal. The price is about a thousand or something.
Why should it cost so much? She's not gold.
Olga VB
Quote: lira3003
Now I have low shelves too
Furniture for kitchen
As a result, a box under the LH was freed.
And if you replace the shelves with thinner ones, for example, glass, then the view in this cabinet will be better / lighter to the farthest corners, and there will be even more space.
I was once afraid of glass shelves in the kitchen, but I took a risk, and for many years this risk has been justified by both convenience and reliability.
Good luck!
lira3003
Quote: Olga VB
And if you replace the shelves with thinner ones, for example, glass, then the view in this cabinet will be better / lighter to the farthest corners, and there will be even more space.
I was once afraid of glass shelves in the kitchen, but I took a risk, and for many years this risk has been justified by both convenience and reliability.
Good luck!
Olga, Olya, where have you been before? I'm not afraid of glass! Now I'm afraid to approach my husband with this
I have these shelves, though in the end I barely begged them for 20 pieces
alena40
lira3003, Yes, there is Eldorado, but Ikea is not present !!!




Tanya-Fanya, Tatyana, I will soon either bite my husband, or divorce him !! He cuts all my ideas in the bud !! BREAK !!! How I tolerate him for 28 years !!!
Yarik
Alyona, I have the same garbage with my husband, if I like it, then he fucking, and vice versa))) so we have any business done twice as long. Here we chose a chandelier in the corridor, went shopping for four days, naturally arguing about any reason, and then we turn our heads together and see it, almost unanimously: how cool it will look ... in the kitchen, well, it's a sin not to take ))) As a result, the old chandelier moved to the corridor.
lira3003
Quote: Alena40
Yes, there is Eldorado, but no Ikea !!!
Fine!!! Alyona, now, when you already more or less know what and how you want, having estimated about the amount that you are ready to spend, you go with your husband to Eldorado. They have a joint project with Maria's kitchen. Often there are all sorts of joint promotions and, in general, the price tag is lower than in Mary herself, without loss in quality. (Like, when buying two pieces of equipment, the third is a gift)
It must be true, first find out in which Eldorado the designer is sitting from Maria.
And sit there with the designer until victorious, arguing with him, with her husband and with herself about every drawer-locker, about every little thing ... Their fittings are not Blum, but Hettich. Excellent too ... Fight until you are satisfied with the price and quality !!!
Tanya-Fanya
alena40, nothing new! For some reason, often men do not understand that in order to eat deliciously our culinary workshop should not only be a place at the open-hearth, but also inspire us to new culinary feats😂

I wanted to remind you that Ikea has an excellent cheat sheet for the distribution of outlets, especially the height is shown well for the technique. Oh, and I fought with mine for these sockets, it's better not to remember 😂😂😂
Wit
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
... often men don't understand ...
It would be fair to put in a word some... Doubtful categorical.
lira3003
Vitaly, You are an exception!
Wit
Yes laaadno
alena40
lira3003, Rita, thanks for the tip. Now I'm going to look at Maria's kitchens. (We have a salon, but there are prices !!!) And I already fell in love with my "Olivia" ... I can't insert photos from the bodies. But 5-7 pages ago, I showed it.
Tanya-Fanya
Vitaly, don't take it out of context. The word "often" in this case is a synonym for your "some".
Believe me, I have great respect for talented men.
alena40
Tanya-Fanya, Tanya, I found such a hint in the VK group.
Yes, my husband is good, he just wants more space in the kitchen, but I really need it as I want !!! In the last apartment he made repairs himself, without my participation he ordered the kitchen. But then I was "deeply pregnant and fell into the curse of working in the police ... well, there the kitchen was about 5 per m. He combined the kitchen and the room ...





In short, tomorrow I will draw how and what. Let's think further ...
Bye everyone, thanks for the tips. And then I have a night already
..
Mona1
Quote: Anna67

If the oven is raised above the countertop, then the bottle holder will turn out lower. What to put in this gap? And if it is not raised, it seems to me that the advantage over the stationary stove is lost ...
Anya, well, how to put it, here's what I had recently:
Furniture for kitchenFurniture for kitchen
In the top compartment there are rolling pins and foil, in the lower compartment there are extra baking sheets. True, this is not an exit bottle-holder, but just a narrow cabinet.
Wit
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
The word "often" in this case is a synonym for your "some".
Tatyana, it is not, not a synonym. I just didn't like the synonym for "often" - "all the time." So I snapped back slightly for the men. There are not enough of them here.
But let's agree that you meant "some".
Tanya-Fanya
We agree
Wit
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
We agree
kseniya D
Quote: lira3003
you are going with your husband to Eldorado. They have a joint project with Maria's kitchen. Often there are all sorts of joint promotions and, in general, the price tag is lower than in Mary herself, without loss in quality. (Like, when buying two pieces of equipment, the third is a gift)
This is not Maria, this is their daughter, I don’t remember the name. I also decided to take a closer look and first of all began to read reviews about these kitchens. I didn't even want to calculate for the sake of interest.
Tanya-Fanya
I also started with Maria's kitchen. The project was done for me. But they did not hand him over. I also got to the action, like when buying 3 items of equipment, a stone countertop as a gift. I managed to take a printout with the specification of the equipment included in my project.
I came home, looked at this technique in the stores M ... and E ... so what? Maria twisted it hard, just on the tabletop.
Anna67
Quote: Wit
But let's agree that you meant "some".
I also read it exactly as "some", I even wanted to say about it. But in the process of explaining, I already grumbled and snapped, so she said nothing

Mona1, of course, I imagined a different layout: a narrow cabinet on the floor and just a gap between the stove and the refrigerator. I have such an "embrasure" in general in the top row of wall cabinets. It makes little sense, before the pizza maker stood, now it is decorative: a vase or flower pot, a glass jar with pepper, a stone mortar, and so on.
tana33
About the refrigerator and LH next, I now have LH 220 heated, for about 40 minutes, I feel the walls of the cabinets inside, they are not heated at all, cold. DSh electro.
Ketsal
You can order furniture without fittings, and buy fittings separately. Mom has a dish dryer in a drawer under the hob - very convenient - no need to stretch. I have to order my own kitchen in the summer. I went to the salon the other day and they drew a kitchen project for me, and such a box costs 42,000 rubles. On the site or a set of insides for such a box costs 3000 per share. A friend's husband is a furniture collector - advice from him to buy a kitchen without fittings. Buy the accessories yourself. If a husband with hands, he sets everything himself
lira3003
Quote: Ketsal
A friend's husband is a furniture collector - advice from him to buy a kitchen without fittings. Buy the accessories yourself. If a husband with hands, he sets everything himself
Here the key word is "furniture assembler" !!! We need very accurate patterns. My husband also wanted to collect himself, and from scratch. Order only "firewood" as they were called in the shop. But, we decided to buy to order. They saved on the table top, apron, lights, handles. They all bought it much cheaper.
Oh, Olga I'm talking about the fittings for the drawers, but there are also hinges ...
Niarma
Quote: Ketsal
such a box costs 42,000 rubles. On the site or a set of insides for such a box costs 3000 per stock
Maybe 4,200 and 3,000 after all, or maybe 14 times too much
Ketsal
Marina, namely 42, motivated that they rarely buy Italian furniture. Similar fittings in a box for 90 costs already 16 in mdm




The husband of a friend said that you should not chase the closers - they are not worth their money
V-tina
Quote: Ketsal
that you should not chase the closers - they are not worth their money
There are different door closers, you can take cheaper ones, but the convenience is undeniable, especially if there are children in the house, a husband and a hostess in a hurry with hands, for example, in a dough .. - any door or drawer is more convenient to push than to close with effort, in addition, there is no closing noise with the door closers. My husband is also a furniture maker, a former, really
Kara
Quote: Ketsal
that you should not chase the closers - they are not worth their money
I have a total of 6 linear meters of kitchen furniture. In all the drawers, except for two (which, as I thought, I would rarely use), I put closers. For almost 9 years now I have been tearing my hair out, which then saved on these two boxes! Each door closer in each drawer is worth the money. To deliver them in two missing ones, you need to redo them constructively, no one takes it for the sake of two boxes, and in the end it will be more expensive than if I had delivered them right away. So don't listen to anyone, closers will not only extend the life of your boxes, but also preserve your nerve cells. Husband-collector - great, he can deliver himself. And if not, it is better to put them right away, even if not in a furniture showroom when buying a kitchen, but as a separate order, but on all boxes at once.
PS: expensive fittings are no longer just worth it!
Ketsal
Mom's kitchen is 15 years old. No door closer, everything closes smoothly, no one here slams boxes and doors. Nothing warped, nothing escaped, nothing broke. Closers are a matter of family neatness. Careful handling of furniture
eye
Quote: Ketsal
The husband of a friend said that you should not chase the closers - they are not worth their money
I need to ask my friend how often and how much he cooks

Our kitchen is ten years old, I was greedy when ordering closers, I also thought that I didn't need it: my husband insisted somehow, grateful to him all this time!

Quote: Ketsal
Closers are a matter of family neatness. Careful handling of furniture
I will never agree: we are all neat, but this is a matter of ease of use, I am sure that, having felt the difference, the opinion will change.
Kara

Quote: ok
I will never agree: we are all neat, but this is a matter of ease of use, I am sure that, having felt the difference, the opinion will change.
PPKS! Not only accuracy is important, but also the frequency of use. Especially when there are a lot of men and children in the family.
OlgaGera
Closers are a must!
I have experience in dealing with kitchens with and without closers.
So, the one that is now at the dacha without a closer is making nerves ... this is ... this is ... well, pull out the wax and throw it away.
Neatness has nothing to do with it. It is a necessity to supply closers. Trust me.
lira3003
I am also FOR closers! No wonder they are worth their money! Conveniently! For what my husband tried to save money, but the closers approved immediately.
Old kitchens had no closers. While the box is empty it is still tolerable, but it is immediately felt when it is full. I made a sewing corner from an old kitchen, which is 2 years old. So drawers without closers are simple. If I can buy closers, so that my husband installs them. We need to persuade him
Ketsal
Well, everyone will remain with their own. We, too, 4 people lived in the kitchen and everything cooks, both dad and brother. I definitely won't take closers for myself. I'd better add some interesting stuffing. And for myself I definitely won't make any open shelf in the kitchen - collectors of dust and grease. The rest is a matter of taste and habit.
OlgaGera
Quote: Ketsal
exactly 42, motivated that they rarely take fittings Italy
Och curious what kind of box
Here you need to take quality fittings. Trust me. Then it all comes around ... but it's already difficult to fix it.
I ordered the kitchen now. Actually, due to the lack of high-quality fittings, I abandoned some things.
Tactilely felt the difference. And if you didn't like it, then don't.

Can someone tell me where to buy a dryer in the cupboard .. This is the usual one for plates and cups.
The ones that are now being presented were presented to the furniture company. Because it doesn't hold up to my plates. Bends. Need a good





Quote: Ketsal
no open shelf in the kitchen - dust and grease collectors
good extraction for help and frying with grease traps.
Now, if you only fry a lamb ... then yes ... it's difficult to wash
Tanyusha
OlgaGera, if you find this one, sign off, otherwise you bought it in Leroy, and she bends.
OlgaGera
Quote: Tanyusha
if you find one, sign off
))))))))))))) Come on chorusduet search
Ketsal
OlgaGera, keep

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OlgaGera
Olga, thanks but, this is what I gave ... it doesn't suit me.
I would use Italian, strong, plump. Or our soviet, were also normal
lira3003
I took it here, it does not bend, even though China.

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I was in MDM, of course, there are prices.
It seems that Ozone also has them ...
Jouravl
Quote: OlgaGera

Olga, thanks but, this is what I gave ... it doesn't suit me.
I would use Italian, strong, plump. Or our soviet, were also normal
Lelka, Italian kitchens use German fittings Blum, Haffele. Search from these manufacturers.

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