Svetta
Vesta, oh, exactly, there is such a thing. We must also close the pipe with this. But I don’t know how to get the refrigerator out of there.
Yarik
svetta, I agree, the loggia in the kitchen is cool! We only need to change the window later, it is deaf in the kitchen and therefore the door is always ajar.

Alyona, but in general, maybe your refrigerator will look fine, you try to move it there and see, live, so to speak, maybe it will suit you like iaz, we are all different. If the door from the loggia did not interfere with us, because of it the table and chairs are not in the very corner, then perhaps we would have left this option.
Vesta
svetta, maybe you don't need to move? The hand won't get there? This protective pipe must be cut along its entire length and put on the heating pipe.
Svetta
Quote: Yarik
We only need to change the window later, it is deaf in the kitchen and therefore the door is always ajar.
And the blind window does not bother me at all, there was not even a thought to change it. And sometimes I put the door on the overhead ventilation or so open it. And why is it so inconvenient to open the door, tell me.




Svetlana, do not stick your hand in any way, from the word at all! Look at my photo, the refrigerator is almost flush against the wall.
Yarik
svetta, we do not have overhead ventilation at the balcony door, only wide open.
Svetta
Quote: Yarik

svetta, we do not have overhead ventilation at the balcony door, only wide open.
Can't this mechanism be built into the door? In my opinion, it is much cheaper than changing the window.
Yarik
svetta, well, we are still in the process)))
OlgaGera
Quote: Alena40
But your floor is light
These are artificial lighting. In fact, the floor is darker than the kitchen. And the table top with an apron is black.)))
And, if not difficult, to me on You





Virgin, and where do you hang the kitchen towels.
Already for years .... dtsat they have been homeless with me. And I just erase them. There were such holes in the old kitchen. Once ... and the towel is hanging. Then, when I did the kitchen, I completely forgot. And now ... I made a kitchen without handles so as not to walk in bruises)))
Yarik
Lelka, I have ovens hanging on the handle.
Anna67
Quote: OlgaGera
little holes
I have one from the inside on the door of the lower cabinet. The hanger is nailed with aprons and towels to the old sideboard. This, as I understand it, is not your option to spoil the furniture.
But towels are all the same forever either lying around on the countertop, or hanging on the backs of chairs, the oven door, or over the front door.
There is also a hanger that is attached to the door - I use it more often for drying.
OlgaGera
Quote: Yarik
on the oven handle
yeah ... but I have a LH in another room ...

Quote: Anna67
hanger nailed
that is easy ... I am with a hammer at YOU)))) the current mush I do not know how to react ...
Yarik
Lelka, you can make it more beautiful, attach a short piece of railing to the wall of the cabinet, there are also hidden fasteners, and hooks on it, I just didn't have such a wall, except for the refrigerator
4er-ta
For me, the easiest thing is with Ikeevski, which are on the door, and you don't need to nail anything
OlgaGera
Quote: 4er-ta
which are on the door
but I'm always clinging to everything .... did not take root ((
Quote: Yarik
attach a short piece of railing
yes yes, we need to work in this direction.
Olga VB
There are plastic hooks in all colors and designs on double-sided tape. They are good because they perfectly withstand any towel, they can be replaced cheaply and cheerful at any time if the design is tired. And it is easy to move if the chosen place is not very convenient. They adhere perfectly to tiles, wall panels, lacquered facades and kitchen furniture cases.
And if, after a period of operation, the selected place turns out to be convenient, you can already place the hook there, which is stationary and more aesthetic.
Personally, I have got accustomed to plastic - white on white tiles. Years 20 stand hanging to death
Good luck!
alena40
Furniture for kitchen
It was planned so
now I think maybe like this ...?
Furniture for kitchen




VP is a hob. I will have it 2-comfort.
Tanya-Fanya
alena40, can I criticize a little?

- the top and bottom are not symmetrical to each other;
- cabinets of non-standard sizes 595 cm greatly increase the cost of the project
- a cooker hood on the left, and a cooking one near the refrigerator?
- where is the oven?
Chamomile
alena40, honestly, I didn’t delve into your kitchen, but it immediately caught my eye. You have a straight corner cabinet, not a trapezoidal one with a beveled corner. Just imagine, a siphon, PMM, that is, all pipes and tubes, will be connected to the bottom of the sink. How are you going to get to that corner? When I had a trapezoidal corner cabinet and a sink under it, I constantly blew my head off the siphon. And here, in general, you will not get into that corner. Since then, I have been against corner sinks. It is better to place them in an ordinary straight cabinet, and if the sink is not double, then a cabinet for 50 will be enough. I have it now, while a rather large rectangular sink is embedded. Really, there was a choice to put a water purifier or a trash can down. The purifier has won. I store the garbage in a beautiful basket made of fixprice and it stands in front of the sink and (or) in a bag that hangs on the inside of the sink door. But this is a cost due to cats. If the water purifier is not installed, then there is more than enough space for the trash can.
lira3003
Alyona, sorry, is the first photo your project? Just "one to one" my kitchen.
Tanya-Fanya, Tyanyush in fact, the asymmetry between the top and bottom cabinets does not bother me personally. But the decision to move the LH, VP and refrigerator to think over well.
Tanya-Fanya
lira3003, Rituyla, I also remembered your project. On the left draw-out cabinet for 1200.
Are you happy with him? Or reduced it?
lira3003
Tanya-Fanya, Tanya, I'm happy. The boxes turned out to be comfortable. Roomy. Height only limitation
zairo4ka
Furniture for kitchen
Hello everyone. I was sitting in the bushes, I wanted to show off the finished kitchen, but I saw the project alena40, and decided to write a warning, because I consider my corner cabinet a big disadvantage. Initially, it was planned with a carousel, but since the communications had already been stretched, as a result, the carousel did not work out and ..... it turned out to be a Narnia wardrobe. All communications pass there: water, a dishwasher, and a filter, but somehow we made them unwisely. All of them are at different levels, although they are attached to the wall, but neither a shelf nor a carousel can be inserted there (((While there is a bag, a garbage bucket, a small mobile Ikeevskaya shelf for small things and boxes for vegetables. I haven’t measured yet, perhaps some kind of trolley on wheels will fit in. In addition to this kitchen, I also have a "rough" one, because there are no special problems with storage space, but if you live in an apartment, then think over this moment.
And, sorry for the photo, I inserted what was in the phone. The kitchen is not finished yet: there will be more cabinets for the refrigerator on the right, a narrow hinged one on the left, then something else that closes the column on the left and goes into the living area. There are no plinths, false panels and much more (((
OlgaGera
Quote: zairo4ka
turned out to be Narnia's wardrobe

I have one in Moscow. Even two. Ai carousel with shelf. Communications go along the plinth, they are not in the closet.
I don't like the carousel itself. Expensive and stupid. For me, a drawer is better. But I will not alter anything already.
Niarma
zairo4ka, in my opinion, not so little you have fit in a corner cabinet. If possible, please take a photo inside the cabinet
lega
Quote: OlgaGera
I don't like the carousel itself. Expensive and stupid.
I have a 3/4 two-tiered carousel, I use it wonderfully. And the money spent is not a pity. It has all the pots, pans, and all sorts of other things. And in the empty corners there are tall bottles, jugs - this is not very convenient, but I rarely use these corners.
zairo4ka
Quote: Niarma
please take a photo inside the cabinet
Ok, but on the weekend)))
alena40
Girls, thank you all for the advice. I listened to everyone, drew conclusions ... I will still think, while there is still time.But with the color it is urgent to determine, because already it is necessary to buy wallpaper ...
lira3003, Rita, yes, this is our project. Rita, could you take a picture of your kitchen?
lira3003
alena40, Alyona, I showed my kitchen 10 pages ago. Page 354, Kitchen furniture # 7069.

A huge plus of this layout is a large working surface, 180 cm. Of course, now I made it a little, I will hang the roof rails and release it a little.
Alyona, and in which salon did you design the furniture?
Loksa
zairo4ka, the kitchen corner is very similar to mine, the left side is the same. Only I have a refrigerator there. And the stove by the window, on the far right! I also read about these corner pedestals, who like it and who don't. But what if you don't get rid of the corner ?! And the communications are carried out in this way, and there is no desire to break the countertop into small sections. I removed the stove from the sink as much as possible so that the countertop was larger. Well, where to put this sink? Nothing really fits in there, but under the sink there is always a siphon and always a complex filling - Narnia is there. Zaire, I like it. Also while watching, I can not decide.
alena40
Quote: lira3003
in which salon did you design the furniture?
The firm is called "BOSS". They order furniture from different manufacturers: Tomsk, St. Petersburg and some other ...
Wit
Loksa, we have already talked about the kitchen. Also, the sink in the corner was straining for a long time (where the bread maker is now). But it turned out to be simple. And under the sink, nothing really fits. For communication there are connections of any length and a corrugated pipe for a siphon. It's very convenient for us now. Corner cabinets and wall cabinets are not annoying at all. I sent you a photo.


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Niarma
Wit, and what is stored in your corner cabinet? I also puzzle over an angle (straight, not beveled), but I don't want to do a sink in the corner
Wit
Marina, I don't have a corner cabinet. All are normal. I didn't like the sink in the corner either. Therefore, he carried her out of the corner.
Apparently you meant the closet located in the corner. But there are two of them. Anything can be stored - an ordinary wall cabinet. And the sloped wardrobe and table were rejected by us at once without giving any reasons. Well, we don't like them.
Along the wall, where the sink is, there are dishes, closer to the corner - it seems ... well, I don't remember, my wife arranged it, but I was too lazy to go to look. I use front cabinets.
Loksa
Wit, yes, yes, I remember everything! We can't agree among ourselves, we decided to wait a little and mature: girl_romashka: it's somehow inconvenient to go to the store when I'm not sure what exactly you will buy.
Wit
Oksana, it is right! We went through this too. Only when, through mutual concessions, they came to full agreement, did they order the kitchen.
OlgaGera
Quote: lga
3/4 carousel two-tier, I use it wonderfully.
Galina, we are all different))) I have a second drawer with a shelf, so it’s more convenient for me to pull out the container, rearrange it. I am not very friendly with the carousel, as well as with the bottle-maker.
alena40
I now have an old headset (from the previous owners of the apartment), and so there is a sloped lower curbstone with a sink, and so there is such an inconvenient door !!!! I can't really put anything there. The door opens at an angle of about 45-50 degrees. Just imagine HOW you can get there? I'm thin in build, but somehow I don't really want to climb there sideways ... In general, as soon as I need to get something from there, I quietly remember everyone who invented and implemented this cabinet !!!
lira3003
alena40, AlyonaHow are you doing with the planning?
All the same, it seems to me that they painted my kitchen for you.But that's not the point ...
As an owner, I would like to draw your attention to the side cabinets. We took an inclined hood, by 600mm, and still the left facade does not open completely. I suggested to my husband to reduce the width of the outer cabinets, he did not want to.
And yet, there was no drying in a cabinet for 700 in the salon, we bought it ourselves, and my husband had to install it himself, otherwise they asked dearly, because they did not take it from them ...
I have a kitchen of compromises so I had to get used to it. All the same, if I had planned it myself, I would have reduced the side ones to 500, then I would have done the drying by 800. In the presence of PMM, it is almost always clogged with me. I wash a lot of things with my hands ...Or a medium cabinet would be left at 600 while drying at 700.
And about the LH or the refrigerator, in your second picture, they are drawn on the right side. Do you know that if you put them there, then the LH or the refrigerator does not matter, will it stick out about 10 mm forward? There are pipes, because of which the depth of the cabinets was reduced for me. And because of which, I have an extreme lower cabinet with shelves, and not with drawers. It is very inconvenient to use ...
What size of kitchen do you have?
alena40
lira3003, Rita, hello. While I'm planning ... You write about the side cabinets, which will be to the left of the entrance? I did not understand a little about the pipes. We get only a tube of the battery that runs (how to write that correctly?), As it were, upward along the refrigerator. By size: as we go to the left 2m, and the other wall is 2.8m. It seems that the area is not small, but I can not shove anything ...




Rita, I looked at your photos again. I will not be able to place the refrigerator and LH on the other side. We want to leave one side free. That is, only a table and chairs.
Vitaly, please tell me, do you have a dishwasher? if so, where did you place it?
Anna67
Quote: lira3003
and still the left facade does not open completely
Not until what end? I hung the doors around the chimney hood so that they would open from it, but I think that it was 90 °. Especially if the loops are like that)))
lira3003
Quote: Alena40
You write about the side cabinets, which will be to the left of the entrance?
I'm talking about the upper side ones, which are the length of the side of the kitchen. After all, you don't have the tops on the short.
Quote: Alena40
I did not understand a little about the pipes.
The pipes protrude 5-8cm forward. And up to wall 35, how will the DSH or the refrigerator fit there?
Furniture for kitchen
If only your distance is different, but look at your drawing ...

Quote: Alena40
another wall 2.8m.
If the wall is 280, how was the kitchen painted 300 for you?
It looks like your designer was not even honored to fit the dimensions to your kitchen
I wouldn't trust him ... well, or check every little thing ...
Quote: Alena40
place the refrigerator and LH on the other side
I persuaded my husband, he only planned a refrigerator there. And DSh wanted under the VP. But, with my back, agreed that I would not be able to use it.
Therefore, after the LH we bought a sofa for 170.
Quote: Anna67
Not until what end? I hung the doors around the chimney hood so that they would open from it, but I think that it was 90 °. Especially if the loops are like that)))
Anna, just like that Furniture for kitchen
Anna67
lira3003, Ah, got it. My cupboards are on the same wall as the hood. An ambush, and sliding like bookshelves is also not convenient, and are there any?
Wit
Quote: Alena40
Vitaly, tell me please, do you have a dishwasher? if so, where did you place it?
Great question! To the adrenaline rush received at the meeting just ended, added a portion of the question about the dishwasher.
Alyona, this is the question where I stood as 28 Panfilovites, not a step back! Alas, I have excessive pragmatism (this is how my wife described me) and therefore I could not understand the whole coolness of rinsing dishes for two hours, if you can wash and dry the dishes in 15 minutes. Of course, if you collect guests every day, then yeah! Once I helped my brother with small repairs. We had lunch and he dumped the plates in the sink. I say, let's wash it. It is not enough, you need to load the car in full, by the evening it will be typed. The dishes are not washed in the sink all day long.
Lan, short. I survived, at the cost of a solemn promise that I would wash the dishes myself. I keep my word. And the kitchen has more space for drawers now.
I warn you the question: the washing machine is installed in the bathroom.

Rusalca
Quote: Wit
Alas, I have excessive pragmatism (this is how my wife described me) and therefore I could not understand the whole coolness of rinsing dishes for two hours, if you can wash and dry the dishes in 15 minutes. Of course, if you collect guests every day, then yeah!
My husband thinks the same way! And I support him, especially since there is not enough space in the kitchen and I am very sorry to take it under the dishwasher.
lira3003
Quote: Wit
I survived, at the cost of a solemn promise that I would wash the dishes myself. I keep my word. And the kitchen has more space for drawers now.
VitalyI admire
I have three men, none of which was found
No, I will never give up on PMM. I have enough storage space, TTT. Today I'll go and bring the shelves, the men will install them, and I'll be even happier, like Matroskin
OlgaGera
Quote: Wit
The dishes are not washed in the sink all day long.

As it is wrong, the OS is terrible. And do not lay in the PM and rinse it?
Wit
I wrote the answer: "It is not enough, you need to load the car in full, by the evening it will be typed ..." And the owner, as you know, the master.
And what does it mean to rinse? It is necessary to wash normally.
Wiki
I don’t understand either, why go to the sink? I put it in the dishwasher right away. If there is something smelling, then I rinse it, if not, then it’s worth it until the evening. Then after dinner I start the dishwasher. Usually it is full, but even if not to the eyeballs, I still run it, of course I do not leave it until morning. Again, there can always be something besides dishes. Grilles from the stove for example, a hood from a microwave oven and so on.
If I wash something with my hands, then my water runs out three times (if not more), then the septic tank needs to be pumped out more often, and my boiler consumes gas and electricity. Then, after washing the dishes, you need to wash the sink, wipe the wall, countertop, mixer - as splashes fall. Also wash the sponge and wash a couple of towels.
Therefore, a dishwasher is definitely more profitable for me.
Niarma
Quote: OlgaGera
I don't like the carousel itself. Expensive and stupid. For me, a drawer is better.
OlgaGera, but how can this box be positioned? so that less space is wasted and it is convenient to use? I'm currently trying to design a corner kitchen (sink is not in the corner), but the whole problem is in the corner lower cabinet
Chamomile
Niarma, I do not OlgaGera, but, I have a straight, one-meter corner cabinet. There is no sink above it. There is just a shelf inside. In the far corner, the box contains everything for seasonal supplies. On the top shelf there is a basin and large pots, which I use for the same workpieces. On top of the pans lie flat molds and large dishes for the princess. The second part of the cabinet, which is located behind the opening door, I usually use. Below is everything for a blender, small molds, alcohol for cooking. Above is a box with a small supply of cereals. I do not hold large reserves.

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