OlgaGera
Quote: Niarma
the problem is in the corner bottom cabinet
and what to design.
Communications will eat up the entire space. Filter, siphon, bag, bucket. Remains in the very corner, where you can never reach
If there are no communications, then the shelf and storage of infrequently used devices.
It is best to go to a friend / neighbor and touch with pens and eyes





Quote: Wit
And what does it mean to rinse? It is necessary to wash normally.
There is such a program in the PM. So that it does not dry out))))




Olga, Chamomile, well yes
Niarma
Olga, that is, in order to get something out of the corner, you must first empty the shelves by the door? You have already written that you put small things in boxes - I agree, it's easier to get them this way. But still, the idea with a drawer is interesting ... and about the carousel and the magic corner, IMHO, the reviews differ so much (from delight to rejection) that people store very different things there - and for some reason this design is convenient , but for some reason not.
OlgaGera
Quote: Niarma
with drawer ....
sorry, I was wrong, changed the concept. A box is a container here, this is exactly the container that stands on the shelf. And in the corner there is no way to make a retractable one.
Anna67
I store pots on the carousel, two sets of plastic bowls and a cube cutter from the combine. At the bottom, there is a low long container from a plastic deck in which everything is long - a rolling pin, ladles, etc.
I did not put the second tier, it is more convenient for me to stir up the whole stack of dishes than to adjust to the height of these tiers. Perhaps on the second one would store the lids, but they are all in the pantry. And on the pin strung a roll with a towel All this, including the scapula and "ladles" are rarely needed.
Chamomile
Niarma, yes, everything is in boxes. Behind the door is a box with parts of a blender, there are also crayons for muffins-casseroles, there is also a plastic jug for a carton of milk. At the very wall there is a very narrow box with bottles (wine for meat, cognac for raisins), there is also a replaceable filter for osmosis. It is not heavy and easy to get hold of. In the season of blanks, I take out these two boxes right on the floor next to each other, pull out a box with lids and drain covers from the corner. I take what I need. I push it back, put two boxes in place. It takes longer to write than to do. Pots are more difficult. There's a box of cereals. You cannot lift heavy things. Therefore, I take out some of the cereals on the table, take out a half-empty box with cereals, remove all the forms and plates for the princess from above. I take pots, a basin. I only need this for salads, lecho. While doing them, it happens for several days, then I keep them under the table. I put the box of cereals back, put all the cereals back in place. When I finish with the salads, I put everything back in place.




It is not necessary to keep what I keep. You can store guest dishes there, or something else rarely used. The main thing is to organize everything on the shelves in front of this corner so that it is easy to take out and put it back.
Niarma
Yes, apparently, shelves and boxes or containers on them - you can't think of anything else ...
V-tina
I already wrote before, there are two such cabinets for me - one has dishes for cooking, in the very corner what is rarely needed, in the other an electric dryer for vegetables - during the season it lives on the table, then stocks of butter, sugar, canned food and containers for for various purposes, now there are also packages with milk, it turned out to be very convenient, we take a lot once a week, in tetrapacks, and that's where we store it, it doesn't dangle under our feet
lira3003
So, we talked about the corner cabinet .... I decided to hang the roof rails and bought three awnings and hooks. I decided to see what they still are. In general, there are not very many varieties of them ...
And who uses which ones to make them comfortable and necessary? I remember Helen Bijou spoke well of the canopy dryer. I like it, but I don't really need it, at least for now ...
And now I have such, for lids, for boards and knives and for cutlery
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Niarma
I like the pendant for 6 mugs (3 pieces in a row), but in general it depends on what you plan to place there. The suspension for boards and knives seemed inconvenient to me (for knives), I have only for boards. And for cutlery it is not divided and then I had to take 4, but there is nowhere to hang, so I got out of the situation differently, took the table one. A hinged dryer or a similar shelf will not be superfluous.
lira3003
Niarma, Marina,
Quote: Niarma
I got out of the situation differently, took the desktop one.
I want to get rid of the tabletop ... And I have where to hang, 2.5 m on one side and about 1.5 on the other side ...
I wanted everything for towels-foil-films, but I read the review that foil and film are not convenient to use, they do not scroll. If so, then I don’t need it, I’ll only take it for towels.
Yarik
Rita, I have a suspension for the boards, a glass, like yours, under all sorts of shoulder blades, and a couple of shelves, there is salt, sugar, tea, from the latter, I really like it, a grid suspension for hot, very convenient bread, pies to cool, I took it in leroy merlin, there are two sizes. Well, and of course the hooks, where are the knives hanging on a separate magnet without them, and in the one that holds a hatchet and a filler knife for the boards. I didn't take it for towels, I don't like it in rolls, I like from Lotus in packs, z-fold.
Wiki
Quote: Niarma
I like the pendant for 6 mugs (3 pieces in a row)
And me! I have this hanging - very convenient.
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And more for paper towels
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And such a duck hangs on a hook
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And such a thing for fruit
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zairo4ka
Well, now, I photographed my long-suffering closet
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behind the bin there are usually vegetable boxes of this type, they are stacked
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The horizontal shelf will block any access to communications, so I'm thinking about the possibility of a roll-out trolley-shelf, such a plan
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alena40
zairo4ka, I now have all this in a corner cabinet under the sink,: girl_wink: with the exception of Tapervar's bowls. There is also a container closed with a lid, in which the lids and a preserving machine are stored. But I already wrote above. that an uncomfortable door I have at this pedestal.
I decided on the model of the kitchen unit, but I'm still deciding how to arrange everything ...
lira3003
Quote: Yarik
hanger-lattice for hot, very convenient bread, pies to cool, took merlin in leroy,
Yaroslavna, I also took it to Leroy, but I didn't think about the shelf to cool the bread ... I'll take it, thanks for the hint.
Quote: Wiki
And such a duck hangs on a hook
What a pretty one !!!
Quote: Wiki
I like the pendant for 6 mugs (3 pieces in a row)
Now I'm thinking whether to buy one or all the same with a pallet, like Lena Bijou showed
Niarma
Quote: lira3003
Now I'm thinking whether to buy one or all the same with a pallet
both, they will not be superfluous
Quote: Alena40
I decided on the model of the kitchen set
So I also decided (or rather my son), but I didn't decide how best to beat the corner. I have a linear arrangement, but he wants a corner one, and it will be better in terms of its size, but ANGLE !!!!
Wiki
Quote: lira3003
Now I'm thinking whether to buy one or all the same with a pallet
I don't need a pallet, the mugs are completely dry after the dishwasher.
By the way, I also wash all these stainless steel stuff from time to time in the dishwasher.
lira3003
Quote: Niarma
both, they will not be superfluous
considering that we are from the bread machine
Quote: Niarma
but ANGLE !!!!
Well, I don’t know ... the angle doesn’t bother me at all, I just perceive it as a wardrobe, with a wing !!! There I have supplies for PMM and chemistry. But we haven’t installed the filter yet, our hands do not reach.
Yesterday my beloved husband and son installed additional shelves in the wardrobe ... I also resettled the bakeware. Now you can safely come up and take the desired shape, and not the first one that comes along. True, to celebrate, she told her husband to choose a shelf for himself, and he chose 6
alena40
Quote: Niarma

both, they will not be superfluous, so I also decided (more precisely, my son), but I did not decide how best to beat the corner.I have a linear arrangement, but he wants a corner one, and it will be better in terms of its size, but ANGLE !!!!
I would love to put a linear arrangement. But all my bells and whistles, even in the corner, can hardly be accommodated !! Only how many beautiful dishes! three types of 6 pieces, plus a tea service, a table service, also a coffee service, ... Well, you understand me.




The girls have decided on the headset !!! HOORAY!!!

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Closer cabinets look like this:Furniture for kitchen
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lira3003
Quote: Alena40
Closer lockers look like this
Handsomely !!!
Is it a thread on a tall cabinet?
alena40
Quote: lira3003
Is it a thread on a tall cabinet?
yes Rita, this is a through thread. This is a wall cabinet.
lira3003
Quote: Alena40
yes Rita, this is a through thread.
Oh, beautiful !!! But you will have to clean the dust with a toothpick. Maybe glass is better ???
Yarik
Alyona, very beautiful, especially with green.
Anna67
alena40, the slab in the second image blended well in style. Which one are you going to bet?
alena40
Girls, I'll come home and answer everyone.




lira3003Yes, Rita, I thought about that too. I ordered a project on David's website, the girl manager said that the factory is large, they don't do it individually, but we ourselves can insert glass from the inside. While I think. There are other beautiful lockers ...
Quote: Yarik
Alena, very beautiful, especially with the green color.
Yaroslavna, did not understand a little, are you talking about drawing in green? Or (just the company has a photo on the website) about the combination of light top and green bottom?Anna67, Anya, I wanted to make an insert, but now I'm thinking ... But in terms of style, I'm looking for a similar insert. If I decide to put an ordinary stove, then the Zanussi company has a similar model.
alena40
girls, tell me please, can I do this? Furniture for kitchenT. E. OVEN CABINET NEAR THE REFRIGERATOR? I HAVE HERE IT'S SO IT'S GOING ON THE PROJECT. (Photo from the Internet, the principle is the same).
In general, I propose this option to my husband. Furniture for kitchen
Yarik
Alyona, where green curtains hang, looks very harmonious.
I often see this option on TV, but how will it be in real life? maybe well, place it under the hob?
OgneLo
alena40, during the periods of operation of the stove and, especially, the oven, the temperature in the refrigerator (and freezer) will increase slightly + the power consumption for maintaining the set temperature in the refrigerator (and freezer) will constantly be higher.
alena40
Yarik, yes, I will have green curtains too.

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OgneLo, Marina, thank you.




Quote: Yarik
maybe well, place it under the hob?
Then it is cheaper to buy a stationary stove with the necessary functions in the oven.
Anna67
Quote: Alena40
Zanussi has a similar model.
Yes, more hansa, burning, hephaestus, smashed ...
Regarding the proximity of the stove and the refrigerator - maybe a heat insulator is used there, since such a line-up often comes across?
alena40
Quote: Anna67
maybe a heat insulator is used there, since such a layout often comes across?
I didn’t see the heat insulator in some of the photos ..
Wiki
Place the bottle between the oven and refrigerator. Just 20-30 cm.
alena40
Quote: Wiki
Place the bottle between the oven and refrigerator. Just 20-30 cm.
Thanks for the idea. if it fits in size. Here I sit in 3D designing according to my dimensions
Anna67
If the oven is raised above the countertop, then the bottle holder will turn out lower. What to put in this gap? And if it is not raised, it seems to me that the advantage over the stationary stove is lost ...
kseniya D
I had a refrigerator next to a column in which there was an oven. The side walls did not heat up at all. Hot air came out through the back wall, where, in fact, there are no walls.
In the new kitchen, I plan to put it next to it as well.
V-tina
Quote: Anna67
If the oven is raised above the countertop, then the bottle holder will turn out lower. H
The bottle can be made of any height, the main thing is that it is convenient
lira3003
Quote: Alena40
girls, tell me please, can I do this?
I have so, only two drawers from the bottom.
Quote: Alena40
Then it is cheaper to buy a stationary stove, with the necessary functions in the oven.
Of course, if you need to save money, then the stove is cheaper ... With all my husband's economy and the desire to buy a stove, I fought to the death and defended two devices.
Quote: Wiki
Place the bottle between the oven and refrigerator. Just 20-30 cm.
It is possible, but why is this bottle-holder needed in the kitchen, where the hostess wants to save a little? Girls, do not hit with slippers ... One bottle-holder looks beautiful when two are symmetrically standing. And the price for it For me, it's better to add this money to the technique
Regarding the installation next to the DSH and the refrigerator ... I read on the trunk that the cooling of modern DSH is directed forward, and not at the walls. I even deliberately put out the refrigerator when baking in the LH, the difference in surface temperature is so minimal that I sleep peacefully and do not worry about my refrigerator. But, my walls are 18mm, if it is important and the gap between the units is about 1cm.
Anna67
V-tina, if the kitchen is to order and not modular then of course.
lira3003
Quote: kseniya D
The side walls did not heat up at all.
Here! And at Xenia one of the most beautiful cuisines !!! White
V-tina
Quote: Alena40
I didn’t see the heat insulator in some of the photos ..
Alyona, I have a gas zanussi and hot air goes forward, the sides of the cabinets are warm, but not hot. Maybe you should first decide on the oven
alena40
Quote: V-tina
Maybe you should first decide on the oven
I really want a built-in oven, but I'm trying to organize my workplace with maximum convenience.
kseniya D
Quote: lira3003
And Xenia has one of the most beautiful cuisines !!! White
Thanks, Rita. : rose: I loved her very much and I hope that the new owner will also like her.
And I will buy a new kitchen in the same place, in Ikea, and also white. I walked around the salons, I wanted something different, but the price tag is 1.5, or even 2 times higher than Ikeevsky with the same input, for example, the full extension of the drawers and the depth of the countertop 63-64 cm. Now I really feel the difference in the depth of the countertop.
lira3003
Quote: kseniya D
the new mistress will also like her.

I dreamed so much about being white ... but my husband remained adamant only in this matter! Did not give up
Tyatya
Quote: Alena40

I really want a built-in oven
Alena, here's an example from life and 14 years of use ………
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Built-in oven! The second photo with the door open so that you can see that hot air comes out forward under the handle, the design of such built-in (I emphasize, built-in!) Ovens allows them to be placed anywhere, I have a freezer nearby. Minus one - built-in appliances are more expensive.
kseniya D
My husband does not even interfere with these questions). At first, I doubted about the white one, what she would be in care. But it turned out to be even simpler than the cherry one that came before it. No problem with keeping it clean at all.
Now I have a dilemma with a sink. I don't want a stainless steel, but I was not lucky with a stone one. It turned out to be disgusting in leaving. But that is another topic.
Tanya-Fanya
alena40, I was very worried about my ash facades. Solidarity with the girls! Hot air goes forward from the built-in electric ovens !!! And he has nowhere else to go. There is a special fan inside and blows out. The oven is inserted into the drawer. And on top it has a tabletop. Therefore, as we are used to in full-fledged gas stoves, when they are completely hot around the perimeter, there is no such thing with built-in electric ovens.

I disapprove of the idea of ​​a raised oven. Or is it a full-fledged column, here it is justified so as not to bend over. Or already built in under a common worktop. And the option to raise it is only to lose the precious 60 cm of the working surface.

About the oven. (We have already spoken in a separate topic). If you are not very free in funds, then why drive into retro style? This is also an extra cost. IMHO - in the kitchen, first of all, it should be as convenient and comfortable as possible for work.
And vaaasche, show the floor plan! 😂 Or maybe your project with dimensions.
alena40
Natasha, Thank you so much.
Girls, I don’t know what kind of evil fate is this or such a day, or even calm down .... I am doing a 3D project in the program.I did two, saved, but they made mistakes. Now I was already starting to make about 7, but somehow the locker is not so with the mouse, and the whole project flies !!! : girl_cray: I'm sitting angry, swearing almost like a shoemaker Now the Internet is gone !!! @ What is This? A hint that you don't have to do anything? So we have already bombed the whole kitchen with the husband of the walls. So I'm in a hurry to make a project in order to know where to bring the sockets
lira3003
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
I disapprove of the idea of ​​a raised oven. Or is it a full-fledged column, here it is justified so as not to bend over. Or already built in under a common worktop. And the option to raise it is only to lose the precious 60 cm of the working surface.
Tatyana, Tyanyush, in general, I agreed and wanted a full-fledged column. But then you need to build in a microwave, to complete the picture ... We took the microwave from the old apartment, it is ordinary. They immediately decided to put on the LH, and here he had to put the LH himself a little lower in order to conveniently use the microwave. My sister has a microwave oven in the upper cabinet, horror
With my post of 164cm, it is uncomfortable for me, but it is lower by 10 cm ... but there is a kitchen of 6sq. m.Put a plate of soup, ambush ...
In general, I have a wardrobe with a LW 130cm height. On top of the microwave, and on it I have placed Travola for now ...




Quote: Alena40
to know where to put the sockets
Alyona, everywhere and more !!!!
I have 18 pieces, and this is not enough!
alena40
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
And vaasche, show the floor plan! 😂 Or maybe your project with dimensions
Tanya, what kind of floor plan is there, the dimensions are 200 by 270. A couple of pages earlier I showed which typeface I chose. I don’t want to order it, because several companies expected 230 thousand or more to come out. Without equipment! As soon as I draw the project, I will show it.
lira3003
Quote: Alena40
comes out 230 thousand and more. Without equipment!
Alyona, any custom-made kitchen is expensive, especially if you just come and count. We need to remove what the designer threw in, get rid of small details ... We also had to go through this ... As a result, the price tag has almost halved

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