Nikitosik
Lisichkalal, Spec. a tool for cutting a hole in a sink, it is better to ask around in a system of stores, on hire... Otherwise, you will throw money down the drain, so to speak ..., firstly it is not cheap, and secondly you use it once or twice in your life ... and that's it! When we bought a sink, we did just that, rented a tool. Maybe you can do it!
Nirinka
Quote: tana33

a silicone mat for sinks is placed on the bottom of the bed, it is very convenient in terms of knocking dishes on the bottom, does not rattle, does not scratch

Tanya, tell us more about the rug, please. we only sell hard plastic ((
m0use
Quote: Lisichkalal

Girls, what can you say about Ikeevskaya inexpensive stainless steel. By the way, it costs 99 euros with us.
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Light, I will not advise any. They scratch from the slightest effort, after six months of operation it looks completely unimportant, I won't take Ikeev's one anymore.
But the tool for cutting holes in Ikea costs 500 rubles, in my opinion, the rental will be more expensive!
Loksa
And I don't really like these rugs in the sink. I tried their mulion, it began with the fact that I did not like the hard one, stood by itself in the sink. And now I recognize him as the best. It is especially annoying to wash silicone mats from greasy deposits. I threw everything out, but sometimes in the country I use that tough one.
Lisichkalal
Girls, thanks a lot!
And how does a granite (the one with resins), BLACK sink behave? Are streaks from water, pollution visible?
dopleta
My daughter is black, she has no stains, but we must take into account that we have very soft water in St. Petersburg, we don't have lime deposits.
Elena Tim
All! Enough! Exhausted! Moving to St. Petersburg!
And what, one wonders, carried me to Moscow, and not to the cultural and cultural capital, two years ago? ...
I would just sit there and read books like a decent Petersburg woman ... instead of scrubbing that damn blue glass shower box and the same damn blue glass sink in the bathroom! Aaaaaaaaa, ninavizuuuuu !!!
dopleta
Lenka, do not whine, but the suspension first, what is more important to you - a sink without streaks or healthy teeth? All Leningraders have bad teeth because of the quality of our water. The dentists will confirm.
V-tina
Quote: Lisichkalal
And how does a granite (the one with resins), BLACK sink behave? Are streaks from water, pollution visible?
Svetlana, I have a black Franke, I like it very much, everything wipes off perfectly, water stains are sometimes visible in the bright sun, but she stands right under my window
Elena Tim
Quote: dopleta
Lenka, do not whine, but the suspension first, what is more important to you - a sink without streaks or healthy teeth? All Leningraders have bad teeth because of the quality of our water. The dentists will confirm.
A!
I didn't like him right away, Peter Entot! There was something in him ... so ... harmful to my body. Yes, I still could not understand what it was. The last two teeth, damn it, you can lose!
But handsome, scoundrel, I will not hide.
Lan, I’m not going, and since I’m not sleeping anyway, I’ll go scrubbing the shower box, otherwise I’m not reflected in it. And I strongly suspect that this is most likely because I am a ghost, and not at all because he zasr slightly stale. And then you will think of something ...

Ninelle
Quote: Elena Tim
and the same blue glass damn sink in the bathroom! Aaaaaaaaa, ninavizuuuuu !!!
Lena, there is a way out! Tested by my husband! You take a drill and drop it on the blue glass sink! Here! It was so with me! I nadraila hut and drove off to the Caucasus, they come, and I already have a golden glass sink, this ... ... ..... ... ... husband! smashed it!
And you drop, and you can calmly go to St. Petersburg!
Elena Tim
Yeah, we've already made one of these ...I cannot tell you how much it cost to cast a new one, under the order. It was made according to our sketch, so you just can't find something like that, huch gold, huch silver.
Come on, I'll scrub. In St. Petersburg, I still changed my mind to move, my teeth are on the shore. Yes, and Lorik made every effort, I didn’t have a chance. See how frightened.
tana33
Quote: Lisichkalal
Girls, what can you say about Ikeevskaya inexpensive stainless steel. By the way, it costs 99 euros with us.
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Svetlana, my friend has this one for 5 years
I used it when I was visiting
normal wash, the depth is good, the second tray is convenient for washing green tea, defrosting, etc., etc., it is convenient in general)))
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Furniture for kitchen
BUHOLMAN
1 1/2 inset sink, stainless steel
4 999.–
Article number: 598.962.85
Free 25 years warranty.
The size
60x50 cm
tana33
Quote: Nirinka
Tanya, tell us more about the rug, please. we only sell hard plastic ((

yes fix-price))) it is not quite straight silicone, but soft, and dirt does not linger on it very much
but I don't really wash the dishes in the sink, scrub the dishwasher
maybe this is partly why, I have it clean, sometimes I have enough sponge to walk
Furniture for kitchen
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before that, there was also a good, soft rug, if I find a picture, I will show
Anna1957
Quote: dopleta
All Leningraders have bad teeth due to the quality of our water
And Baba Yaga is against it! Not everyone has So, Lenchik, let's go to the cultural capital
m0use
Quote: tana33

Svetlana, my friend has this one for 5 years
I used it when I was visiting
normal wash, the depth is good, the second tray is convenient for washing green tea, defrosting, etc., etc., it is convenient in general)))
🔗
Furniture for kitchen
BUHOLMAN
1 1/2 inset sink, stainless steel
4 999.–
Article number: 598.962.85
Free 25 years warranty.
The size
60x50 cm
So I have it, yes, the depth is good, and the second tray is convenient, but it looks like after a year of use and do not think that I am a pig ... I then looked at a new one in the store, and it is already covered in scratches from the plastic tray, well I didn't notice it before! I would never buy it in my life!
Bijou
Quote: Loksa
It is especially annoying to wash silicone mats from greasy deposits.
And I silently sit, read, wonder, amazed at the hard work of others. On an empty sink, I waved a washcloth and cleanly, but wash these squiggles ?? Now from fat, now from a hair-thread-wool ... No, it's not for me.
Quote: Lisichkalal
And how does a granite (the one with resins), BLACK sink behave? Are streaks from water, pollution visible?
Behaves very well. I have a Teka round for 7-8 years. It is not glossy black, but with grayish blotches, in general, no dirt or drops are particularly visible. The "dirtiest" place is at the tap mount, where the droplets dry out more often and are washed less often. If it has not been scrubbed for a long time, it just looks a little grayer than on the walls, but it does not feel like dirt. Although our water is so hard that Muscovites would be more silent.
Quote: dopleta
All Leningraders have bad teeth because of the quality of our water. The dentists will confirm.
Oh wait! But what about those who have been living on the "distillation" of filters for years?
Lisichkalal
Girls, another thanks!
Our water is very hard!
tana33
Ksyusha, I can’t say anything, except that probably my friend’s in the washing area is a little dark and I didn’t consider it, and that absolutely any stainless steel will not be glossy after a while, all the same washing, and sponges, and the dishes back and forth , do not leave a chance to remain in its original form)))) but I did not think about it, washing and washing)))) the main thing is that it is deep and comfortable
tana33
Quote: Bijou
And I silently sit, read, wonder, amazed at the hard work of others. On an empty sink, I waved a washcloth and cleanly, but wash these squiggles ?? Now from fat, now from a hair-thread-wool ... No, it's not for me.

Lena, yes, it rattles when they put dishes in the sink, it annoys me in the first place, and secondly, I am all the time afraid that they will break and spoil my crooked households, so the rug warms the soul, so to speak, and softens falls
recently a small one dropped a glass into the sink, thanks to the rug, the glass did not fly apart, but slightly crumpled and just spun
so for me personally, a rug in the sink is a necessary thing))))
and I also put it in the dishwasher from time to time, and it is perfectly washed without my participation
Bijou
Quote: tana33
and that absolutely any stainless steel will not be glossy after a while, all the same, washing, and sponges, and dishes back and forth, leave no chance to remain in their original form))))
Well, of course! I strongly dislike stainless steel hobs and stoves for the same reason, although their life is easier in this regard.)) Even knives with their colossal (by the standards of ordinary steel) hardness and then eventually lose their gloss, what is there about the sink talk.

The stainless steel also has a big (for me) drawback - it is loud. Like any empty iron box. For this, it is probably customary to use all kinds of inserts inside. For I cannot imagine why there is a grill in a cast shell. But there is one simple way to reduce the noise from dishes in an iron sink - for this, it is covered from the bottom, outside, with a thin layer of polyurethane foam. Well, you never know, suddenly someone does not know or has forgotten. )
Svetta
Quote: tana33

that absolutely any stainless steel will not be glossy after a while, all the same, washing, and sponges, and the dishes back and forth, leave no chance to remain in their original form))))

It is for this reason that at one time I bought a sink made of matte stainless steel in a small embossed rough (I don't know how to write it correctly). It is washed remarkably, streaks are not visible, the view is always well-groomed, nothing is scratched. BLANCO sink with drainer, mid-range. By the way, it does not rattle at all, there are a couple of pieces of foam rubber glued on it from below.
Chamomile
svetta, but I don't like such a sink. I don’t remember the name of my sink, but it’s just that, rough. Somehow it is badly washed, if not mine, all the same, as if covered with fat. Although I used different means. Including expensive ones. Now I use the pop of Zhirafkina, it washes best of all, but still, there is a feeling of not being washed when holding a hand. Although I cook a little fat, and there is a dishwasher.
Svetta
Olga, now with a specialist I went and felt my sink - there is no feeling of fat content. Moreover, I wash everything in it, I do not have a dishwasher. Maybe different manufacturers make this roughness differently? Or we have our own subjective feelings.
And what is this Giraffin pop? I do not know, please share.
Lisichkalal
That's how many people, so many opinions)))) and most often, absolutely opposite))
Anna1957
Quote: Lisichkalal

That's how many people, so many opinions)))) and most often, absolutely opposite))
Therefore, I usually listen to the opinions of those with whom I have the same views and preferences. Nobody will be deliberately misleading, I see. And it's very good that people share their opinions.
Lisichkalal
So I'm not against it)))) Forum and girls just respect! I often do not find the answers on Yandex or Google, but here everyone will prompt, everyone will tell and tell the whole truth)
Chamomile
svetta, the composition of the "pop":
- 1 tablespoon of baking soda (regular baking soda)
- 1 tablespoon of liquid soap
- 1/4 cup vinegar
- some water
I simplify, immediately pour a little soda into the sink, drip soap, vinegar on top, and immediately rub it all with a wet cloth.
Bul
Very well white bloom from water from stainless steel removes table vinegar. I have a small bottle with a bullet machine near the sink. Mine is the only way. Accidentally, the vinegar spilled and washed off the plaque, which I could not wash with expensive means. Now that's the only way!
Bijou
BulDuc vinegar smells the same! Isn't it easier to dilute a lemon?
Bul
Lena, I do not know! Smells yes ....! But for that there is a result! I haven't tried it with lemon! I was so glad that it washed off the plaque!
Bijou
Yulia, I always have diluted citric acid, I use it according to the circumstances - in the dough, in the kettle, then in the sink.)) Our water is hard, the holes in the shower overgrow at the moment.So even it seemed to me that vinegar eats off even worse than lemon. Well, or I manage to dilute it cooler, because it does not evaporate and does not interfere with the smell.)

In general, not too neglected growths are removed very well with a melamine sponge.
Ljna
Bijou, in what proportion do you dilute the lemon?
the same problem of hard water with bloom (
Bijou
Evgeniya, but as God will put on your soul. But cool.) For example, one hundred grams in a half-liter jar and pour water. And when I soak the divider, I can simply wet it and pour crystals on top, periodically stirring the non-melted with a brush. Well, or pour a spoonful of crystals into an old plate and add water to the desired level. In short, it comes with experience - you begin to understand how much you can get by.)

And in the toilet the same garbage - and I can pour a bag into the tank right on the float (there is such a scab growing on the tube that the float gets stuck completely), and down into the bowl, if there are areas of limestone under water that are not rubbed off. I also buy some kind of anti-scale in Magnet at 5 rubles per 100 grams for the same purposes, it comes out cheaper.)
Ljna
Bijou, Lena, thank you! otherwise you have to use chemistry all the time, and there are stains on the stainless steel
Bijou
Ljna, yes you try it first, maybe you won't like it.

I remembered that in our summer shower, on an ordinary metal-plastic door, somehow imperceptibly such a scab had grown that words could not convey! Millions of dried lime drops, accompanied by splashes of foam and even a touch of rust from the days of using ferrous water. No hard washcloth took, there is no acid chemistry in the house, because it "smells" to me.

I smeared the lemon with a cool solution, then dipped a hard brush straight into the crystals, rub it - I'll let it stand, rub it again. Well, so that the acid dissolves evenly. And after 15 minutes in front of me was a flawlessly snow-white plastic door with the purest glazing beads and rubber bands. It seems that I didn't even wear gloves, because at first I was holding onto the brush, and then it didn't matter - I wiped it off with a wet microfiber cloth.
Nirinka
tana33, Tatyana, Thank you! Our fix-price is somehow wrong, there is no such thing.
And I also need a rug in order to preserve the sink. I now have a white ceramic from Ikea, such a beautiful one, it will be a pity if it rests. And before that there were steel sinks, of course they were not afraid of anything.
tana33
Irina, let's buy and send, business then
Nirinka
Oh, Tanya, thank you very much! No, somehow inconvenient. I just come from near Chelyabinsk, in February I will go there, I hope to buy it.))) Anyway THANKS!
tana33
Irina, come on))) nothing inconvenient, I myself suggested))))
if you buy, then I'm waiting for a report, if you can't buy, I will send it by force
Nirinka
Tatyana, yeah, let's decide on that!
Fofochka
Lisichkalal
Girls, and I choose the tap. Damn his leg! there are so many of them, I have already bought 1, but I will go to rent, the reviews are bad.
Udrbly with a handle on the side? Now I have a handle everywhere on top, it is convenient, but in stores it is mostly on the side.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
I now have a faucet in the kitchen with a handle on the side. It's convenient for me. I don't care where the handle is at the tap. But, someone may not be comfortable in terms of opening the tap with dirty hands. If you can lift there with the handle on top with the back of your hand or with a bone, then here it is almost the same, but the hand may not get through between the handle and the tap. Therefore, try on in the store "in the pose of dirty hands." Well, the side handle should be placed in a comfortable position according to whether you are left-handed or right-handed.
Tanya-Fanya
In the kitchen, I really like the faucet with the handle on the side.
When opening / closing with wet hands, water does not drip onto other parts of the mixer once again.
If your hands are dirty, for example, in minced meat, you can open the tap with your elbow (like a surgeon before an operation: 0) and not get it dirty.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
you can open the tap with your elbow (
As an option . True, I tried it myself, although it was a rather large handle at my tap, but it was not very convenient for me. Although this is probably a matter of habit.
toffee
My elbow is far away, but I often open it with my wrist.
toffee
I want to ask, I made repairs in this thread in August-September. I ordered a headset and bought new equipment. Until now, I have not yet completed all the furniture assembly work. But that is not the question. After the tables were installed and the cabinets were hung, the apron was measured. I chose a picture and ordered. It was at the BEGINNING of DECEMBER. When asked when it would be ready, they said only in the new year. Me: "What, do you have orders since summer? Or maybe from spring? Why do you keep ME in line for so long?" They: "No. You are the longest with us." Duck from what buoy do you dynamite me ??? It's already mid-January. I called them with a claim. WHERE IS MY READY KITCHEN ??? Just yesterday they say: "We brought you an apron, but the driver had an accident and the apron broke." I have no words, no obscenities, no humor already. Girls, how long does an apron with a photo print take? And what can you advise me? By the way, I paid in installments. It remains to pay 14 thousand. I said that only after the kitchen is ready in full, I will pay off my debt.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Irina, and what is written in the contract about the timing of the order?
tana33
Irina, my apron with photo printing, tempered glass, 3m + 0.6 + 0.6 was ready in 2 weeks, ordered after furniture was installed
on payment, made an advance payment for materials so that the kitchen goes to work
then I paid for an apron and glass on the dining table, because it was ordered separately from the glaziers
I paid the rest after the completion of all work on the installation and elimination of jambs)))
the total period turned out to be about 2 months

yes, but what is in your contract?

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