Furniture for kitchen

Girls, a full-scale renovation is planned in the kitchen. The sizes are small. I saw a picture in someone, either my own, or from the Internet, in short, an additional table extends 90 degrees from under the main tabletop. Does anyone have it?

You can use this idea and beat it in your own way.
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This is a set from the Metro.

This is a set from the Metro.

My girlfriend / classmate has such a set - I saw it live many times. He's very uncomfortable. Every month, when I came to her, I saw this table in different corners of the kitchen (her kitchen is also small, so there is also a walk-through). As a result, she used it for only 2 years and sold it - she was tortured to find a place for this table!

[Anyuta]

Anyuta, I did not specifically suggest this set, but only the idea of ​​a roll-out table.
Another angle.

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Namely, this set is inexpensive and seems rather flimsy, so it is not surprising that it is inconvenient.
There are a great many similar designs.

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[Song*]

Song*, Anya, that's what I meant. Pulls out from under the main tabletop on a circular mechanism, there is one leg. Do you think it's not very functional in terms of functionality?

Do you think it's not very functional in terms of functionality?

She takes up a lot of "useful" places. The option that Creamy showed is the most successful for small kitchens And, in my opinion, she also has a retractable countertop - this is the most rational option

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, it seems to me that the option with two legs is more preferable, as it is more stable and reliable. I used it and pushed it back. For small kitchens, that's it.

which is more preferable with two legs.

Of course, it is preferable in the presence of "free" square meters. When every centimeter is saved, this is not the best option, since 2 places will be "eaten" at once for the fittings - this is the place at the top of the table itself (where it spins) and the place for the "legs"

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, it seems to me that the convenience of roll-out tables depends on what kind of hostess you are. If it is convenient for you to put everything out, do work or eat, and then remove everything, then it will be convenient for you. It was not convenient for us. Everyone lived in different schedules, there was salad on the table, afternoon tea (for a little sister), fruit, etc. If you are considering it only for cooking, then you may be comfortable. Prepared - removed everything.

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Well, not that eaten. Here is just an option for small kitchens.

Well, not that eaten.

About the blue version: is it possible to measure the clearance for the legs? I will answer - there it is at least 10 cm - a couple more cm and now the place for the bottle-holder is lost ... And also the place where the countertop itself is hiding is + another full-fledged shelf. If losing 2 full-fledged shelves is not essential, then of course you can consider this option. And as Olya wrote correctly - you need to decide for what purposes this tabletop will be mainly used.
The version with the orange kitchen is more thoughtful and rational (in my opinion) - as I understood here, the tabletop completely replaces the table.

[Song*]

Song*. Orange option and I like it. The opposite wall is used very rationally. And the shelves are not deep at the top, and a counter on which you can leave salt, sugar, something else, and a hanging basket for fruits and pastries. And the table, in this case, can be rolled out only for plates, ate - removed, the salad remained, put it on the counter, and pushed the table itself. Conveniently. Moreover, the table can not be attached to the rack, but simply made on wheels. Pushed out - removed.

And explain to me how to make a work surface from a windowsill? In terms of the installation itself.The window sill is plastic, is it torn off a native or what?

It depends on what level of the windowsill. For us, for example, they were below the table top. Therefore, the window was changed, the missing height was supplemented with foam blocks and brought to one level.

Change the window? They will definitely trample me straight out of the house.

I don't think it is possible to pull out a window sill without touching the window. If the level is different, then what is the point of changing the window sill to the countertop? If he has a lower level, then by increasing it, will he not interfere with cabinets and drawers from opening? Or will there be no furniture next to it?

I don’t know for sure yet. I can't put together a project in my head. Tomorrow I'll go to the firm. I would like to know at least a little what I want.

Perhaps a folding book table is more suitable for you than a pull-out table? It does not eat up the working space of the kitchen front, you can not remove anything from it when folding (you just need to move it to the stationary edge), moreover, it can have additional storage space - shelves or drawers, and you can move it apart by one or 2 wings , and in a quick way, you can have a snack on unfolded.

Perhaps a non-retractable one is more suitable for you,

I thought of retractable to make an additional work table. Near the stove. You stand, cook and immediately cut. I don’t know if I need this language? The kitchen is small, the daughter is categorically against the corner, they say there will be no room at all. I also thought to take the other side (with the window) of the working area. As it turned out, too little is real.

My parents had a sideboard with a pull-out table. They did everything on it, served as a dinner table. They changed it later, of course, the motive is old age and fashion trends. But I always remembered and regretted that now this idea was pushed aside. And recently I was visiting, at the dacha, and there was also a sideboard with such a sliding table, standing near the stove. And they also actively use it. Cool! And there were no legs and supports at the table, everything was stable.

Oh, defky, we spent two hours in the furniture salon. We haven’t finally decided what it will be. There is a catastrophic lack of space. My desktop PM doesn't go anywhere. And if it enters that place, it eats a lot. I'll show you an initial sketch of the project later. This is how I looked at all this nonsense and it seems to me that now I have most of all included and really everything is at hand. They offered wardrobes to the ceiling - no rolls, constantly jumping with a stepladder does not suit me. And the second - the ventilation is closed.
I want to ask, a glass false panel with a pattern in a small kitchen I think will not look. I will put all sorts of rubbish on the countertop and close all the beauty.
Second, do you need additional lamps in the body?
Oh, and by the way, here are the colors you chose.

Top drawers in horizontal stripes, bottom orange, wood-like countertop.
Or here. Zelenka.

Why did I go to the dream of a maniac, who will answer me?

[Irina]

Irina, I wanted such a green one for the upper cabinets .. but since I drew the kitchen myself, my husband counted, ordered cutting and assembled, then these facades separately stood up for us at a big penny, because we sell them only in sheets, and we only needed its third .. personally to me - your second option is more like

I liked the orange version more, it is warmer, although the green looks colder and, therefore, cleaner.
There, from the photo, the shade of green is not clear, how warm-cold it is and how it will all be combined with the walls.
About the cabinets for the ceiling. This is a perfectly good idea.
Upstairs, you can remove what you rarely use. That is, if they were not there, all the main things would fit into the lower ones, as well as additional storage places, they are not "instead", but "together". And for ventilation, you can provide for the possibility, there is also only one small window, you can somehow leave access to it, for example, remove the upper part of the cabinet case in this place (you cannot see it from below, and air access is free).
In addition, a higher structure will visually raise the ceiling, visually give more air, and in a small room this is very important.
For example, I recently finished building a whole row of additional upper shelves to the ceiling in my kitchen along the entire front. I thought that they would put pressure on my brains, but it turned out that this structure, on the contrary, raised the ceiling for me, visually increased the space. I was surprised and overjoyed. True, all these upper shelves are white, like an extension of the ceiling.
My facades are green, and the furniture cases are white, so the white shelves are quite organic.
I took the ikeevskie, adjusted it in size, 3 kopecks - the price of the issue, I just had to tinker a little with one, adjust it to my size, and the result -
If your cases are also white and the ceiling is white, then the uppermost row above the main upper cabinets is also better white.
About the lighting.
It depends on what kind of light there is, how good the natural insolation is, where you work more often in the kitchen On the dining table or on the nightstands).
For example, I do not need backlighting, I know many who do not use it. but there are also those who are very pleased with it.
here it depends on the specific conditions and habits of the hostess.

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, Olga, and you can see a photo of shelves under the ceiling? Is it practical (dust, grease in the kitchen)?

Well, here it is called to consult with the color. The account is 1: 1 so far. Olya, green like the apples of the grove.

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, Ira do not take not orange, not green. I myself am now reading and choosing the kitchen, I looked in the salon and orange and green are oppressive, and if the kitchen is small. And under the ceiling, everything is superfluous upstairs, and from the ventilation shaft you can throw a corrugated pipe behind the lockers to the hood.

looked in the cabin and orange and green-depress

green .. some shades are depressing, and some are quite the opposite .. considering that Ira wants this green down - it should be excellent. When I could not buy green facades, I settled on locarno oak, and we painted the walls green

[Tina]

Tina I now have a pure white kitchen, I like it very much, but ............... I am sick of washing it. Before that, there was a tree, and now I am looking at the lilac tree, but so far in thought. And the walls and mine are greenish, but with a white kitchen it looks good

And I have a white with a milky tint (ikeevskaya). When the sun is shining, then some drops are visible, but so it seems and not. Until I was completely bothered to wash it. But with her, as if the space has become 2 times more. There used to be "cherry".

[Galya]

Galya, and I am about the same, if there is little green, it will not interfere. And we completely rolled up the walls in light green, but I have the lower cabinets, and the door to the kitchen is wenge, I really like it, but light and bright had to be diluted in any case

looking at lilac

I love lilac very much, but somehow I didn't see it in my kitchen

but ............... bothered to wash her.

the dark one also needs to be washed all the time, but the tabletop is in a speck, nothing is visible on it

A dark kitchen has to be washed even more than a light one. Never make a dark kitchen again. Only light, pastel colors. Milk, vanilla, etc. And the tabletop should be stained and the color of "pebbles", then it is normal, with a monochromatic tabletop you will get more rubbing than with dark facades.

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, I have additional lamps hidden under the wall cabinets. That is, they are not visible, they are covered with a facade, and the bottom of the shelves is slightly raised. Each lamp is switched on separately. Very comfortably! For example, in the morning I cook breakfast - I don't turn on the overhead light, only the backlight is above the working area. It is necessary to touch Boshik, he is slightly to the side of the main zone, - she turned on above him.
All the boxes I have are roll-out, and then they roll up themselves, pushing a little with a knee (hands are busy!). The facades are light blue, the table top is white with a sparkle.
If possible, do not save on the internal contents of the boxes - docks, door closers, holders ... It will be more convenient and pleasant for you to cook.

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, Olga, and can you see a photo of shelves to the ceiling? Is it practical (dust, grease in the kitchen)?

Very practical!
First of all, these are additional storage places, secondly, visually, oddly enough, the kitchen has become larger and higher (it is a pity that the photo does not convey this), in the third, from the point of view of "dust-grease": if there is less space above the shelves under the ceiling, then there is less dust and grease, moreover, not only because of the small space above them, but also because of the more inaccessible height.
In addition, I covered the top with cardboard from the packages of the same shelves, and these cardboard boxes are not visible at all due to the height.
If they get dirty a little, I'll change.
So it's very practical from all sides.

Sorry, girls, I took a quick photo at the request of the workers, I haven't removed anything yet.

I also have an additional light under the hanging drawers. Very comfortably. And I completely agree with Katya that roll-out boxes are much more convenient than cabinets with shelves. I only have 1 such cabinet, all the other drawers, and that is because it is non-standard, under the windowsill. And there would be an opportunity and there I would make drawers.

Is it a roll-out type of drawer? That is, separate shelves leave? Or does the closet completely slide out at the bottom?

And for 4 years my orange top has not ceased to like me one iota. Very warm with him. Positively. I don't even want anything else.

And what are shuflyadki?
I meant ordinary drawers. There are facades on each drawer, and there are 3 drawers behind one common facade.

Che will tell you. In short, the Armenians are doing the repairs for us. Today my daughters and I left to choose the kitchen, we come and our neighbors tell us that we drowned them. We live on the fifth, water poured right up to the 3rd floor. I'm fainted. My builders have already left. I call their chief and begin to inspect my apartment. He of course swears that nothing was discovered or spilled. All our floors are dry. Even in the kitchen, where the linoleum is cleaned, there is dry litter on the plinth. Where does the water come from? Neighbors on the 4th floor are billing for wallpaper and laminate flooring. About how Ira makes repairs! Wide, all over the entrance!

[iris. ka]

iris. kawhat a horror! Are the heating pipes not embedded in the floor? Maybe they were "crushed" by something, and they flowed down .... unlikely, but possible.

[kseniya D]

kseniya D, common small drawers are called shuchlyadki. The word ukr. and belor.

I have a light green kitchen, like in the 3rd photo Olga VB... Love the color! I deliberately did not make shiny surfaces, because every drop and every finger are visible on them, you wave to rub it. I have matte surfaces of cabinets, I keep them clean without excessive fanaticism, like with gloss.
About the boxes. I strongly advise you to make drawers instead of a plinth on kitchen furniture, even if they are 10-15 cm high. In my kitchen this place just disappeared due to my ill-conceivedness. But in the corridor closet, I no longer clicked and made such a drawer. There you can store lids, all sorts of parchments, foil, silicone molds, culinary literature, and much more!

Yes, I have 2 boxes. Very comfortably. And baking trays, and baking dishes, and all different syringes, cutting for cookies.

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, sympathy, I also started repairs, 2 apartments were flooded by builders, they were settled later ...: cray: Since the floor is dry, perhaps somewhere in the ceiling to leak ?!
I have a kitchen niz-wenge, top-light beige. The bottom is fully roll-out with door closers, of course a little expensive, but very convenient. By the way, on top cabinets, on top, you can stick a food film, and during cleaning, just replace it with a new one and that's it. She very well collects all soot and dirt.

[iris. ka]

iris. kawhat a horror! Are the heating pipes not embedded in the floor? Maybe they were "crushed" by something, and they flowed down ... unlikely, but possible.

These pipes are in my bath. The water is not blocked now, but the flood stopped long ago. The husband suspects that it was still the Armenians (or whoever they were) pushed aside the sink in the kitchen and pulled out the drain hose. Not immediately noticed, but when missed - hello neighbors! The doors to the bath, again, stopped closing freely. It seems like they are swollen ... But they don’t recognize it.

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, in my opinion, from the proposed options, orange will look better with green, and white is not the topic for them, the style is not the same. it is better to combine white with black, which is "hidden" in the samples, and to place bright accents, if you want, with the help of textiles, shades and accessories. but that's for my taste.

[kseniya D]

kseniya D, yes, these are drawers. I also believe that they need to be done as much as possible, it is more convenient to stuff everything in the kitchen into the drawers

[iris. ka]

iris. ka can do so

[Cirre]

Cirre, hmm .. I really liked the first option. Girls, how about the striped white top that I showed you? In the store, it seems normal, but at home I looked ... no, it looks like a scratched one.

Here are photos of the projects.



All on one side. Left recesses: below for pm, above for mv. There are very few functional boxes. They are either narrow or shallow. In the same version, but the upper ones are up to the ceiling.
Here's another option. The corner goes from the window. Under the window pm. But there is also a battery, you cannot remove it. In this version, there are no boxes on the left where the window is. And on the back wall, their cat cried. Where to put all the good?

Are you left-handed or right-handed? this is what I mean. It is better to place the sink and stove (if possible) under the arms to make it more convenient. I am left-handed and I prefer the stove to the left of the sink. And from green and orange, I would choose green. I will make myself a "wooden" kitchen, but I have not yet decided how dark (like wenge) or lighter (oak). All the same, the computer was covered, and with it the project. And you need to think carefully about this matter - I have a kitchen of 25 sq.

About the flood. We also did the same repairs)))) we drowned our neighbors three times, and on the fourth, the tiles were already in the bathroom and the neighbors flooded them from above, but because of the tiles, the water did not get to us, but everything went down. The neighbors staged a scandal at night, and we are shocked - it is dry here, until they opened it up to us (and drug addicts lived there) almost a day has passed - they flooded the entire staircase from the 8th floor. And there the pipe burst and no one had enough power to cut off the water at the entrance. And the first three times our would-be builders in the bathroom punched a pipe in the wall and no one noticed. Micro hole. It was lucky that the neighbors also made repairs in the bathroom - they dispersed peacefully.

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, and can flow in the ceiling?
I had a case ... A locksmith comes to me and says ... - Heat the basement !!
Let's go to see ... The kitchen is dry, the bathroom, the toilet is also dry. I started looking ... I broke the wall between the kitchen and the toilet. And I found it !!!!!!! It turned out that the drain pipe from the sink, going to the sewer in the toilet, is not one-piece, it is made of two parts connected in the wall by a coupling, so there was a crack in this coupling ... And this water slowly dripped along the wall into the basement ...
The locksmith, of course, replaced this sleeve, and the wall had to be repaired by ourselves.
So, I think, it is better to look for a leak now, while the repair is underway.