Chamomile
gala10, I'm also thinking of buying a free-standing oven. They are both cheaper and the same functionality. Just choose a better one, convection is not convection, turns off or not and all that. We have a big topic about them. And you can just put it on the countertop or even on the windowsill. Some girls hanged it, or rather put it on a hanging shelf. Think. And think about whether you need a 4-burner hob. If I decide to rework, I will put 2 burners, a separate oven (if I will put it at all), and move the sink from the corner cabinet. For now, I decide to take this step. And I dissuade everyone from washing in a corner cabinet.
adelinalina
Quote: Chamomile1
I have been living without an oven for the second year and do not suffer from it at all.
oh, I suffered a lot without this device, I can't do it without an oven
gala10
Oksana, I have a lot of devices that can bake. I rarely used the oven, although we have baked goods every other day, including bread.
Katya1234
Chamomile1,
And think about whether you need a 4-burner hob. If I decide to rework, I will put 2 burners, a separate oven (if I will put it at all), and move the sink from the corner cabinet. For now, I decide to take this step. And I dissuade everyone from washing in a corner cabinet.

Olga, I support the idea of ​​a 2-burner stove. Even without a multicooker, three burners on my electric stove never worked at the same time.

What's the problem with the sink in the corner cabinet? Inconvenient?
kseniya D
Quote: Chamomile1
then put on 2 burners,
Me too, 2 years ago I wanted to do so. I couldn't find the gas color I needed. And then, when the spinning season began, she crossed herself ten times, which she did not set. At least 3 combs are occupied at the same time. And in gas, for some reason, the size of the combo is not good, in my opinion. One small and one medium or large. I haven't met two of the same size. It turns out that if there is a frying pan on a large one, then nothing can be put on a small one except a ladle, even a medium-sized saucepan.
adelinalina
Quote: gala10
I have a lot of devices that can bake.
unfortunately, my kitchen size does not allow me to install devices, and initially I still prefer the old fashioned way
Quote: Katya1234
Olga, I support the idea of ​​a 2-burner stove. Even without a multicooker, three burners on my electric stove never worked at the same time.
I now also regret that such a large hob, anyway, even if you want not to put 4 at once, but 2 I think it would not be enough for me, that's three just right and the working table would turn out a little wider
Chamomile
Quote: Katya1234
What's the problem with the sink in the corner cabinet? Inconvenient?
Not convenient. A lot of space is lost in the closet itself, it is almost empty. A little on the sides, something stands at the bottom, under the siphon. The rest of the space is occupied by a siphon, connecting a washing machine and a dishwasher. Hoses, connections ... The cabinet is large, roomy, and I use it not rationally. The sink itself is 50, round, mortise. It seems to me that a cabinet for 50 would be enough to accommodate all communications. I use the hinged corner cabinet to the fullest, I have so much in it !!!!! It contains all my pots and pans, all the containers, and on the upper, hard-to-reach shelf there is a ceremonial service packed in boxes (so it fits more compactly), which I take out on holidays. And on the edge of the top shelf are lids in a small dish drainer. So I think how much I could fit into the lower corner.
Quote: kseniya D
And then, when the spinning season began, she crossed herself ten times, which she did not set. At least 3 combs are occupied at the same time.
I sterilize it in an airfryer, not 100% use a cartoon and a pressure cooker.I use 1, sometimes 2 burners. At the same time, I have an ordinary enamel teapot, that is, one is busy with a teapot. Of course, everyone proceeds from their own needs. We live together with my son and I have enough kitchen helpers to use them more often and give up 2 burners. But this is my choice and I proceed from my needs.
toffee
I agree with those who have more than two burners. Now I have 4, everything is included on holidays. The husband yells that this is a lot and the load goes to the wiring. Now we are fighting with him - buy 2 or 3. And what about devices, then it's also difficult. There was a cartoon, we did not like the taste of it. Well, my airfryer is just huge. I get it from time to time. In general, I, too, the old fashioned way - stove, oven.
Rarerka
I even changed the entire set because of the corner sink. Now there is a roll-out "magic corner" under the fully-filled upper hinged one. Angle works 100%
toffee
It's good when you have a choice. On one wall or on the other, +/- 10-20 cm, no question! And when it is not allowed on one wall, on the other there is nowhere on the third one is not allowed. Oho-honyushki ...
kolobashka
Virgo, I have a theme here:
We will have gas in our new apartment. But, having a bunch of devices, I don't know if I really need a hob at all. But I don't want to give it up at all, sometimes an open fire is needed. Can it be done in the form of a hearth? Are there ready-made ones for sale or are there craftsmen who will add? Who met the thread tacoE? The apartment is on the 1st floor.
V-tina
BarbaraFurniture for kitchen
V-tina
that's it with a gas stove Furniture for kitchen
Crochet
And I have no idea where to start repair / alteration of the kitchen ...

Probably, from the search for an intelligent designer, nevertheless ...

My own fantasy limps on both legs ...
kolobashka
V-tina, well, no, it's just a hood decorated with a fireplace. I mean it is not to put the hob, but to make an open fire. Do not know how. Here in a pizzeria, I saw a wood-burning stove and they said that there are still such gas stoves.
Like that, just gas.
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kolobashka
I called this company right now. DeUshka's hike does not understand the equipment. It is necessary to find a man who knows.
Jouravl
kolobashkaHow many meters is the kitchen? After all, this open fire implies a very powerful hood and requires a lot of space. As far as I know, gas workers and fire safety rules will not let such things in apartments. There are many problems with connecting gas even in country houses, and in apartments, even more so, sometimes their strict requirements have to be taken into account when designing kitchens.
In your version, it is better to put a gas hob with a certain function already, what suits you - grill, wok, etc.
I have an ilve gas hob with a wok burner. The lower cabinets get very hot ... honestly, now I would refuse such a powerful open fire ...
kseniya D
I don't think this can be done in an apartment building. Well this is what a hood should be! Like a fireplace. Where is the exhaust pipe, through the window?
V-tina
Barbara, and, I realized now .. nope, I have not seen such gas, only wood-burning
kolobashka
Jouravl, looked at ilve. This looks like what I want. Only the husband will not approve of the prices.
I have not seen this in stores. Therefore, I was interested in who can have it.
Jouravl
BarbaraAlso just for fun - the Italian factory restart. Separate kitchen units in rustic style.
Just look !!! From the price
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kolobashka
This style is not close to me. S. B.
toffee
Girls, I ordered a false plastic panel for the kitchen. What color is the countertop to match her and the false panel. Then from conversations I hear that the plastic on the wall is very bad to care for. They say tile or glass is better. How is anyone?
variety
Quote: svetta

When I have an oven, I will buy a smaller displacement for 2 shelves in height. In all 8 years, I only cooked a couple of times on the lower level, all the time the middle and upper level. So why pay more? Yes, and a lot of electricity goes to it, it turns out uneconomical. And I saw such ovens - the width is normal, and the height is small, just 2 levels. And in the vacant space I'll make a box!
PPKS !!! I also don’t want to turn on my oven again.I don't bake or cook in large volumes. It turns out that for the sake of one cake / biscuit, one (or even half) baking sheet of buns / cookies / vegetables, etc., you have to warm up this whole bandura for more than 50 liters. Not only does a lot of e-energy go to waste, it's also hot in the kitchen!
Well, and, of course, since it takes up a lot of space, then all the trays, baking dishes + a large frying pan are stored in it. Therefore, before using it, you always have to free it up and clutter up other surfaces in the kitchen.

But I am not ready to give up the oven completely: I don’t have so many devices that would completely replace it.
kseniya D
I had a panel to match the countertop for 12 years. The drawing itself was under a small stone. The splashes were felt only to the touch. I washed well, nothing peeled off in 12 years. But here, perhaps, the main quality. A friend's countertop turned into a terrible horror after 5 years. Accordingly, if there was the same panel on the wall, then the presentable appearance would also be lost.
Now I have a tile. I don't see any difference in care. Since I rarely use the stove (mostly all sorts of multi), plaque does not form quickly. After frying, I immediately wipe the spray with a damp cloth and that's it.
variety
Quote: adelinalina
I now also regret that such a large hob, anyway, even if you want not to put 4 at once, but 2 I think it would not be enough for me, that's three just right and the working table would turn out a little wider
Also PPKS! Two will not be enough, sometimes I use three. And the fourth is idle. There are such domino hobs, they can be combined and assemble the required number of burners in the desired order of placement. Now, if I change the stove (I have a freestanding one), I will focus on the "dominoes" with a free-standing small oven, which I will place at eye level. Tired of squatting every time. And in no case will I buy an oven with a dark mirrored door! It is terribly inconvenient: it reflects, the color of baking through the glass is difficult to "guess", all the drops-splashes on it are very visible.
variety
Quote: Kolobashka

Virgo, I have a theme here:
We will have gas in our new apartment. But, having a bunch of devices, I don't know if I really need a hob at all. But I don't want to give it up at all, sometimes an open fire is needed. Can it be done in the form of a hearth? Are there ready-made ones for sale or are there craftsmen who will add? Who met the thread tacoE? The apartment is on the 1st floor.
Why are these troubles with the hearth? Buy a gas stove (they, in my opinion, not only for 2, but even for 1 burner), powered by a small gas cylinder, and remove it as needed. It will take less space in the kitchen and will cost less.
louisa
I want to speak about the facades, I have a plastic top-glossy cherry color, bottom-matte wenge, I thought it would be easier to care for matte, yeah, there, the top of course gets tatted, mostly near the handles, but one movement is enough with a microfiber cloth and it shines , but the bottom: crazy: this is something, even the spray from the water is not washed off by anything, not even a steam cleaner, chemistry, too, not all, I have found salvation, I rub it with polish for furniture
kolobashka
Quote: variety
powered by a small gas cylinder
Why do I need a balloon? I have natural gas.
Yesterday I announced to my husband the cost of ilve. He asked plaintively: maybe not?
Masinen
louisa, I fully support!
My kitchen is 5 years old with kopecks, the facades are glossy orange, as it is like new, and the prints remain only near the handles.
So, in Moscow, I chose the gloss Orange for myself all the facades. And the kitchen is bright and it lifts the building and care is easy)
toffee
Here and understand you, women, Another-two pages back gloss scolded how much in vain. I ordered a gloss for myself, I chewed my nails to the ground - ahhh! girls don't praise. And now, fuuu, you can live with such.
Masinen
Irina, sure you may!
The main thing is to check all the facades to make sure that they were intact))
louisa
iris. ka, ordered plastic?
Larssevsk
Quote: Masinen

louisa, I fully support!
My kitchen is 5 years old with kopecks, the facades are glossy orange, as it is like new, and the prints remain only near the handles.
So, in Moscow, I chose the gloss Orange for myself all the facades. And the kitchen is bright and it lifts the building and care is easy)

Wooooot, did I say SHO? Microfiber and water are our best friends and we are not afraid of any smudges. They used to live with polished furniture and didn't buzz. And now there are plenty of any means.
That's it, I'm starting to dream about glossy again, otherwise they took, deprived me of my dreams
gala10
Girls, I have a glossy beige 8 years old. I have never regretted it.
knob
Quote: iris. ka

Girls, I ordered a false plastic panel for the kitchen. What color is the countertop to match her and the false panel. Then from conversations I hear that the plastic on the wall is very bad to care for. They say tile or glass is better. How is anyone?
on page thirty she showed her kitchenette. I also have a false panel, but not in the color of the table. I have been using it for about 5 years. Until I regretted a single drop. Easy to care for. And there are no problems (mmm). As good as new.
Bijou
Quote: Larssevsk
Microfiber and water are our best friends and we are not afraid of any smudges.
And if you remember that "bamboo" napkins have already been invented, then life becomes even more wonderful.))
Chamomile
Quote: gala10
beige 8 years old.
Apparently beige is the key word. Because with the wine color (burgundy, beetroot) I'm tired of fighting. Beautiful, but you can see everything, every speck, every spray.
marina-asti
Quote: gala10

Girls, I have a glossy beige 8 years old. I have never regretted it.
I will say more, half of my kitchen is glossy white, the other half is orange! Before that, the kitchen in the apartment had vanilla with bright blue. Also gloss - in general, there are no problems with kitchens and cleaning. When the assistant was cleaning, then once a week she wiped the facades with a cloth, I wipe once a month because of lack of time, and then for the sake of order only, no drops are visible!
Bijou
Or maybe it depends on the lighting? Our relatives seem to have glossy acrylic. The hostess is neat, although she is wrapped up from morning to night, but the view of the facades is often very worn. Although even small children are not there yet. Kitchen with good lighting - windows on both sides.
Scarecrow
And now everything is glossy. Nothing, namana like:

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marina-asti
Scarecrow, here! otherwise, in full dress, we have not yet seen her!
Olga VB
Natasha, what is the wall above the tile painted with? What is the name of the color and which company the paint is.
Can you take a big picture of a piece of this wall?
I'm looking for a color between yellow and brown, but I can't find a shade that looks good in a large volume, and not on a small sample.
As far as I understand, what was chosen for the tile? On the tile, too, please give me a reference.
Scarecrow
Olga VB,

Tomorrow I need to try my husband. The paint is semi-gloss to wash better (the color number was somewhere) and, in my opinion, tikkurilla. But I can't guarantee. I don't remember nifiga. And with the tiles it’s quite an ambush, we need to find the bits, we can have something there. It is in large tiles, but it is divided into small ones and it gives the impression of a mosaic.

I had a kitchen with orange facades and green walls (vice versa))). since a lot of things were bought for this combination (accessories, household appliances), they decided to keep the colors, but in a different version.
I have two more photos, maybe you can see it better there, now I'm going to load. No, in my opinion the same ...

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But here you can see the tiles! This is me fotala mixer ..
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Scarecrow
Quote: marina-asti

Scarecrow, here! otherwise, in full dress, we have not yet seen her!

Yes, in full dress, I rarely see her myself: she is always littered with all kinds of dishes and in the process of sculpting))). Today I have studied 15 kg of meat (what's for minced meat, what's for soup ...)))
Olga VB
Quote: Scarecrow
Tomorrow I need to try my husband. The paint is semi-gloss to wash better (the color number was somewhere) and, in my opinion, tikkurilla.
Thank you, Natasha, I'm waiting!
marina-asti
Nice in full dress! I don't see mine either, some banks are standing now)


Scarecrow, so I just want to ask, why is this Fairy not sleeping?))) Are you conjuring pajamas for a child again?)))
I cut the plum into jam according to your recipe, but I can feel it and I'll drop it into the juice tomorrow morning.

Elena Tim
Quote: Scarecrow

This is me fotala mixer ..
Furniture for kitchen
ABOUT! I have such a lady! Superb!
Chuch, high five!
toffee
Quote: louisa

iris. ka, ordered plastic?
Nah, plastic is expensive. Film. Everything is already worn out. What if you don't like it? With abstract imagination, I feel a bit tight.
Quote: Scarecrow

And now everything is glossy. Nothing, namana like:

Furniture for kitchen
Natasha, I don't understand ... Did you remake the kitchen in the house? It seems that you had a different layout ... Chtoli wider ... And there was no window ...
And a question. Photo frames on the hood look so cute. And didn’t you want to clean the fat and soot from them? And what kind of beast is still there? A lion?
Scarecrow
Quote: iris. ka

Natasha, I don't understand ... Did you remake the kitchen in the house? It seems that you had a different layout ... Chtoli wider ... And there was no window ...
And a question. Photo frames on the hood look so cute. And didn’t you want to clean the fat and soot from them? And what kind of beast is still there? A lion?

Nifigase you have a memory ... Yes, the kitchen was renovated in the house. The kitchen was really wider because it was a corner and there was absolutely no work area on the right. The window was always there, it's just that you can't see it in all the photos, it's buried there in the corner)).

I periodically wipe the frames, but without fanaticism. Once every six months, with a glass cleaner - everything is cleaned normally. And the beast is a porcelain bull, pinned from Spain)).

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