Furniture for kitchen

[The built-in oven is not installed under the hob they need to be spread]

Here I look at the pictures - and everywhere the same mistake: the built-in oven is installed under the hob. It shouldn't be like that. Since the hydro and thermal insulation of built-in ovens is somewhat different than that of free-standing stoves. The built-in oven is not installed under the hob they need to be spread, it is easier and cheaper to install a free-standing stove. ...

No, there is no need to carry them! Even if these are separately built-in units. Well, that is, there is no technological need for this. But at the same time it is indisputably more convenient if the oven is at the level of the countertop (or slightly lower)

[Kara]

Kara, Irina, This is not my whim. Before installing an oven under the countertop, talk to a technician at any built-in oven repair shop. What is the most common problem and why it occurs

[OlgaGera]

OlgaGera, I have an oven under the hob.
They should not be tight, the distance should be between them for ventilation)

Girls, I personally have them in different places.
But with a friend - as in the pictures. And I had to meet the repairman and see him off. So he told me such subtleties.
Although her technique is quite serious

[OlgaGera]

OlgaGera, but more about the subtleties?)

[Masinen]

Masinen,

and more about the subtleties?

It is technically impossible to install them tightly.
But if the stove is gas, then there is the possibility of filling the oven, if something "ran away" on the stove. Other waterproofing on the oven.
Sometimes wiring on electric hobs melts due to oven operation. Thermal insulation is to blame.

[OlgaGera]

OlgaGera, Thank you! Very interesting)

[Masinen]

Masinen, for me even these two factors are decisive when placing the oven.
Well, the most decisive thing is not to bend over and, therefore, place the oven above the level of the countertop.

[OlgaGera]

OlgaGera, but how to place them in different places (oven and hob) if they are dependent? Control is on the oven

I was talking about an independent panel and oven

[OlgaGera]

OlgaGera, when our hob was electric, the oven was controlled from the hob, but externally, the oven was no different from today's independent one.
The relatives have had an oven under the hob for 17 years and everything works. I doubt it matters.

I have plastic in the kitchen with aluminum edges

Likewise, 8 years old. Kitchen 5.6, as you know, everything is back to back. The stove is close to the sink, while everything is fine. The oven cooks every other day.

The relatives have had an oven under the hob for 17 years and everything works. I doubt it matters.

Likewise! In our last apartment, too, an oven was built under the hob (despite all my persuasions to do it separately, my mother categorically wanted "as expected"), everything worked fine for 7 years. The apartment was sold 6 years ago along with built-in kitchen furniture. The new owners did not change anything, as far as I know, it still works great.

Built-in units are originally designed differently, insulated, etc.

But if the stove is gas, then there is the possibility of filling the oven, if something "ran away" on the stove.

According to this logic, a whole stove with an oven would be out of order very quickly, because when pouring there it will directly hit the oven

No, nothing is poured. I had a cooking stove over the oven for 10 years. No problem.

I also have an inset and an oven under the hob. I have been using it for 8 years, no complaints.

I am very glad that everyone has no problems with the built-in oven.
I warned about what the wizard - installer told me. And the arguments are different. )))

Here I look at the pictures - and everywhere the same mistake: the built-in oven is installed under the hob. It shouldn't be like that. Since the hydro and thermal insulation of built-in ovens is somewhat different than that of free-standing stoves. The built-in oven is not installed under the hob, they need to be spread, it is easier and cheaper to install a free-standing stove. ...

I have it separately. The oven was arranged at chest level, just below the countertop, what a grace it is to come up and work with it without bending over.

It just seems to me that often due to lack of space, people have to install them together ...

About the facades.
In the spring of 2009, when I was still living with my parents, we were making repairs and changing the kitchen. I ordered the kitchen. Still worth it. The facades there are white (not boiling, but milky) matte painted MDF. + two cupboards with glass in an aluminum frame. For 2 years I have lived with this kitchen, now my mother. I am satisfied with the quality, both were white and remained white, easy to clean. Little time is wasted. Now I'm designing a new kitchen for myself - I want the same one.
I didn't want glossy ones precisely because of the bursts, the film is easy to scratch, and I don't like plastic. And so, everyone chooses what he likes.

[Gata]

Gata Anya, I also have painted MDF, and also white, only the kitchen is already about 20 years old. So white kitchens don't live so much, I won't take painted mdf anymore.

And I have a natural oak since 1999, it still costs like new and there are few body movements with it.

And I have a natural oak since 1999, it still costs like new and there are few body movements with it.

Natural cuisine is the best, but prices bite

Eh, my gophers are not enough for him ...

I am very glad that everyone has no problems with the built-in oven.
I warned about what the wizard - installer told me. And the arguments are different. )))

And with me, with the first surface and the oven under it (both Bosch, Spanish sbroki), everything was great, and when my husband slammed the hob, and I decided to save money and bought Hansa, then p ... c started, you can't turn them on together , the surface begins to freak ...

Eh, my gophers are not enough for him ...

Red specks will look great

It just seems to me that often due to lack of space, people have to install them together ...

+1 if I had my way, I would also have done it on the same level, but since there is no place, they built it under the stove.

[Cirre]

Cirreis this your kitchen?

[adelinalina]

adelinalina, +2. I also wanted a higher oven, but nowhere. Above - Bosch gas panel, below - Bosch electric oven. 5 years - works so far, pah-pah-pah.

Girls, isn't the glass ceramic of the same quality at the hob? Now I read reviews about a particular stove and some write that the glass is like new, others that it is difficult to clean. Or does it all the same depends on laziness? I had only one stove with glass ceramics, I cannot adequately judge.

Above - Bosch gas panel, below - Bosch electric oven. 5 years - works so far, pah-pah-pah.

I have an electrolux-aeg oven on the bottom, and a cheap phagor on top. When I didn’t think that there could be a difference in gas too (there was no gas before), now I want to change the top panel to Bosch too. Maybe I will change it over time, but this and that also works for the 6th year

[Cirre]

Cirre, do you think plastic or film will live so much? No harm to appearance.

Girls, in my kitchen the facades are solid, dark. I understand that pleasure is not cheap, especially now. But how happy I am with it. The splash of water is practically invisible, I wipe all the lockers once a week, and I am immensely happy. The kitchen is 6 years old, and it is like new! And above the stove, and above the places where the multicooker and the kettle are.At first I was afraid that the steam would spoil the furniture. But no, everything is fine, mmm. And then, classics are always in fashion

Girls, and who has small kitchens - no more than 7 squares - what color of the kitchen did you choose so as not to reduce the already small space?

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[Niarma]

Niarma, I chose top-lime, niz- vanilla. But I don't know how it will be in real life, they will install it in a month.

[Niarma]

Niarma, we have a white kitchen. 5squares.

error: the built-in oven is installed under the hob. It shouldn't be like that. Since the hydro and thermal insulation of built-in ovens is somewhat different than that of free-standing stoves. The built-in oven is not installed under the hob they need to be spread

Live and learn...
A week ago, after 8 years of trouble-free operation, both of them went out of order: both the hob and the oven. They are located just one above the other. Somewhere, something was short. Maybe just for the named reason?
I haven't summoned the master yet. As it turned out, if you have a bunch of various devices, you can perfectly do without a stove with an oven.
And now I'm thinking ... do I even need them?

When I have an oven, I will buy a smaller displacement for 2 shelves in height. In all 8 years, I only cooked a couple of times on the lower level, all the time the middle and upper level. So why pay more? Yes, and a lot of electricity goes to it, it turns out uneconomical. And I saw such ovens - the width is normal, and the height is small, just 2 levels. And in the vacant space I will make a box!

We have a year.

you also have 3 years, Sveta. I've been waiting for mine to pass.

you also have 3 years, Sveta.

I'm not waiting, I feel good here too!

When I have an oven, I will buy a smaller displacement for 2 shelves in height.

So I started thinking about this. But first you have to wait for the master. What else can be reanimated, and what is already ... truncated.

And I was in the store yesterday and I can tell by the price (who is critical). Small ovens are much more expensive than large ones. Why, it's a mystery. And manufacturers of one, two, three and missed. But again, I'll make a reservation, I live in the outback, as I don't know among Muscovites.

Small ovens are much more expensive than large ones.

I’ll get to the nearest store now and see what they have to offer me. It even became interesting.

[svetta]

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svetta, Svetochka, good selection, thanks!
about the cost of ovens: why go to the store, if you can look on the Internet

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, Olya, I somehow here in the subject gave a gorgeous selection of small kitchens, moreover, it was real photos, not a computer. projects. But now I won't find ...

Small ovens are much more expensive than large ones.

We have it too. I studied this topic two years ago.

girls, thanks to everyone who responded. I will think further

[gala10]

gala10, I have been living without an oven for the second year and do not suffer from this at all. I bake in a multi or aero grill. For the two of us just right. And all that is necessary is to call the master and change the control knob on the stove, which turns on the oven.

[Chamomile1-Olga]

Chamomile1-Olga, thanks for the support! Of course, in the end I will figure out what the matter is, but I am inclined to believe that it is quite possible to do without an oven.