Furniture for kitchen

in general, I imagine that I need to remake in the kitchen, for many years I have nurtured and nurtured a remodeling plan with the lowest cost and the most effective result. I planned to buy furniture in Ikea, as I really like the quality / price. And now the moment has come when it is no longer possible to postpone, and prices in Ikea have risen almost several times. Even in the spring and summer, I fit into the estimate of 40 thousand, and now I need all 70 thousand. And they don't
What to do now? Where can I buy the same (similar in functionality and quality) set of furniture at a lower price than in Ikea? (((

[Vei]

Vei, Liz, some OBIs have "Kitchen Studio"
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try to look there, there were options, cheaper than Ikea, but I did not look at the quality.
And I like the Ikeevskys, they are very comfortable and you can change something at any time. It is a pity that I did not have time

That's what is good about Ikei furniture, that it is like a designer. We bought an expensive kitchen, very low-cost high-quality painted facades, and their frames are all the same and at a very humane price. So when we were flooded with boiling water from above, we managed to quickly unfasten the facades (they are very easy to remove), and the damaged frames were changed, some were bought again, some individual panels were replaced ... As a result, the damage is minimal .. BUT (!) The quality of these frames, I'll tell you, rip off the hands of the one who makes them, not a single side edge has been processed, chips and pressed sawdust stick out everywhere, and this, for a minute, is kitchen furniture, where there is moisture and steam! Everything was spat, I understand that it is a consumable ... And everything else is very thought out and convenient ..

[m0use]

m0use, Ksyusha, when did you buy the kitchen from them?
my mother bought from me about 6-7 years ago, the quality of all components is wonderful! frames, facades (while at that time the cheapest white ones), everything flawlessly. And I am generally delighted with the accessories, how many over the years these hinges and retractable mechanisms have fallen, and everything works like a clock!
Is it possible that their quality has dropped so much? (((

Liz, we bought it in the summer! She herself has always admired the quality .. the fittings are super-duper even now, and all the internal equipment is excellent, the facades are awesome, but they are expensive with us, from 3,500 rubles per door .. And the cabinet frames are quiet horror, and they are standard, go to all kitchens, both expensive and cheap .. those same frames Factum. It looks like they found something to save on

Yes, Ikea sometimes changes factories for the production of their furniture in pursuit of a decrease in c / cost. It is a pity that they now have nasty frames, they used to be cool, much better than the same Paks.

I almost ordered Ikeevskaya cuisine. Although their price has doubled, I am tempted by both the quality and the ability to choose frames according to their size. I did not treat the choice of furniture in the hall as sensitively as I did to these drawers-loops. If everything became so sad ... he can refuse while there is time ...

I bought Ikeevskaya a year ago. I can't say anything bad about frames. But I’m not going to buy an additional set of fronts for drawers and a dishwasher (already scratched). Since March, other Method kitchens go on sale, and Factum leaves. And new facades (outwardly the same) will not fit Factum frameworks. So, if someone needs something, buy it now.

What interesting information ... thank you. I would like to know how the pricing policy will be ... As always - newer means more expensive?

I can't say anything about the price, I don't know. I know that the size range and the pitch of the frames will be larger, the floor stands will be higher in height, because there will not be such a high base as it is now, although 2 basement boxes just save me.There is so much stuff for baking!

We also had time to buy Ikeevskaya cuisine before the New Year. Everything was assembled just super. And also, what we liked, we bought parts. That is, the project was done, and the lower frames were bought first. Then the upper frames, and once drove almost by accident, just along the way and in the discount department bought doors for the upper cabinets for 540 rubles. In chemesut markdowns and did not understand .. not a scratch, everything is perfect. I didn't have to save. There was money, they bought a part, etc. True, in December, warn that the factum is being removed from the sale of the kitchen in January, so all the accessories need to be redeemed to N.G. The furniture is comfortable, I like it. Especially roll-out boxes. And the doors close so softly.

In chemesut markdowns and did not understand .. not a scratch, everything is perfect.

remove from production and sell off the rest!
Now I don't even know whether to run and buy, or wait for spring ...

Here, too, the frames from Faktum upset me, I bought the kitchen 2.5 years ago. When assembled, I decided that this was "disposable" furniture. In the sense that you cannot collect it a second time without losses. That is, if you move, then you do not need to disassemble it and transport it carefully. Facades Abstract (if my memory does not fail me, Italy), very good, excellent fittings, comfortable kitchen. but wireframes ... as I wrote. Maybe 5-6 years ago, frames were not made in Russia, but now in Russia?

size range and step of frames will be larger

after the purchase, they sent me a link to a certain profile, whether I was satisfied with the kitchen. Including wrote to them that the size range should be expanded so that it pleases. Although I have already solved my problem, I just put the cabinets sideways)))
It was not in vain that I wrote, it means they read what they write to them and, apparently, it was not for me that one size range was missing

2 basement drawers just save me. There is so much stuff for baking!

similarly to the Princess in one lies, in the other forms-trays
In theory, when new kitchens appear, prices may be dropped on the remains of Factum, but it may turn out that not everything will be in stock ..

I noticed that 7 years ago they also had more options with sizes and boxes. There were cabinets 30/40/50 (!) / 60/80/120 wide and 90 corner cabinets. And now they do not have 50/120, 120s only with a carousel, as the corner version is offered. The curbstones were with 5 small drawers, now only 3 drawers each. In general, not knowing what they will offer in the spring, it is very difficult to make a decision.
And before the frames were indestructible, I myself bought many at a markdown (exhibition samples), disassembled and assembled them a couple of times, removed and re-hung them in other places, nothing broke and did not suffer anywhere.
And when my daughter learned to walk and began to walk on the boxes, as to walk up the stairs, I was really scared. I bought a bunch of defense mechanisms of various configurations in the same Ikea, they helped me a lot. But the boxes withstood everything, and the preservation in them is heavy, and the shelves and pull-out baskets / drawers were designed for a very large weight.
What they have with this now is not clear ...

Let's wait and see, maybe everything will change for the better ..

And someone here was talking about the basement boxes, Ikeevsky.
How is it in operation?
My kitchen is not Ikeev's, but I think you can build it into any one.
I really want to get additional boxes.

I am planning to build 2 boxes into mine. In Ikea, they are of only one type - under the cabinet 60 cm, the box itself, of course, Already. The main condition is the basement is not less than 16 cm. One box costs 2800 rubles, it is called "additional storage space". I looked at the height - the princess will definitely enter.

And someone here was talking about the basement boxes, Ikeevsky. How is it in operation?

I have 2 of these boxes. I am very satisfied, there are a lot of little things. The guides for the box are attached to the legs of the cabinet under which it will be located and a wheel is attached to the back of the bottom of the box itself. The box itself is 40 wide, 43 deep, 10 cm high (the sides themselves are smaller, but you can put something 10 cm high).

The other day I was talking with a little man from Ikea. Nowadays, kitchen consultants no longer work.Clients themselves sit at their computers, and a couple of assistants walk between them and just correct something. Factum kitchens will be changed to a new Method overnight. Now in Ikea (at least in ours), the reorganization of the entire space is beginning and almost 60% of the area will be covered with curtains. Kitchens will be assembled in advance and then they will dismantle the old ones and install new ones overnight and they will cost much more.

Ksyusha, don't you know when this "X-hour" will come, I need to buy something else for the kitchen, and the salary is only at the end of the week ..

It will definitely not be until March. I still can't get myself together behind the facades.

Interestingly, and they will expose old samples with what discount in markdown? I must go see their exposition again.

Ksyusha, Ksenia, thank you very much!
You upset me. I have a 10 cm base!
Eh! But happiness was so close! This idea flew by!

Yesterday I was in Ikea. The kitchens department was completely destroyed, all expositions were dismantled. A year and a half ago I bought an Ikeevsky kitchen for a new apartment, but still a lot of ideas for reorganization are wandering in my head (a good idea, as you know, comes after ...) At first I was just shocked, because I think that the main feature of Ikea (by the way, actively advertised by them) is precisely that you can always change or add something. Again, a guarantee of 25 years was declared. Now what? New kitchens will be absolutely incompatible with the old ones, even the inner filling!

In general, for those who have not bought anything yet, I advise you to wait for this new Method system and build on its basis. And now I'm feverishly trying to figure out what else I might want in the future in order to buy more while I still have ...

Unfortunately, the quality is ikeev's, every year it becomes noticeably worse. The frames were previously produced in Slovakia, now Russia. Drawers in 2012 were Blum, now Turkish.
All the decent sofas were taken out of the assortment, and the new ones are some terrible ...

There will still be some stock of old kitchens in the warehouses, just for those who apply for a guarantee.

[kseniya D]

kseniya D,
It's good. So I have a little more time to think.

Ksyusha, Ksenia, thank you very much!
You upset me. I have a 10 cm base!
Eh! But happiness was so close! This idea flew by!

George, at 10 cm it is generally difficult to attach something, in the same place both above and below at least some space is needed for fastenings, free running.
But you can do it yourself: attach a structure to the base on the basis of different extension mechanisms. Polish and Turkish, of course, cheaper than German and Austrian, but also not for nothing. As a result, the box is no more than 8 cm high. Is it necessary? Then go ahead!
Many are now selling furniture fittings. It is possible to find such spare parts in discarded furniture.
My friend just stuck the box to the plinth and put it on 4 bearings. If you don't use it often, then quite ...
Some people simply make a removable base, and for it, baking trays used once every 100 years or something else that cannot be thrown out, but not often needed, are stored right on the floor. You can adapt some kind of tray for this, or just a rug made of a flexible plastic board. It takes up little space, but it washes well.

Olga, thank you!
I thought about this, I just wanted a beautiful solution.
I will think further.

Ksyusha, Ksenia, thank you very much!
You upset me. I have a 10 cm base!
Eh! But happiness was so close! This idea flew by!

I don't see a problem. You buy legs for kitchen bases with a height of 18 (they are on sale in OBI or in construction markets), exchange them for them, you can also buy a plinth with a height of 18 - if you need it, but if you want boxes, then only where boxes are not needed. If there is a dishwasher, then you will need to adjust to the height of the base.
And I generally demolished all the plinths, repainted the legs in the desired color and opened access for cleaning, even the Robot vacuum cleaner flies quietly and vacuums everything.

Nadia, well, brains! I wouldn't have thought of it.
Tell me, then everything will be higher.Will it be convenient to use tall lockers.
This is what I mean: now many manufacturers have 2 heights of the lower cabinets - 85-87 and 93-97 cm.
Ecomebel was the first to start this, now others are proposing it. I still can't decide if the tall ones are comfortable.
If you are just standing on the plank to cut something, then the high ones seem to be comfortable. And if you do something in a saucepan, then you have to jump up and down.
Or how?

[Olga]

Olga, I have all the curbstones 92 cm high. They were specially raised so that there was a gap of 4-5 cm above the PMM. I myself am not tall. You don't need to jump.

Gal, is the cooking room at that height too? And how, if the pan is high, is it convenient?
Or a harvester with attachments. I have Kesha at a height of 85 cm, so if the attachment is on top, for example, a processor, then I can't add anything from above, it's not convenient to add over my head, I have to take it off.
I am 161 cm tall.

Ol, my height, I'm embarrassed to say, 154, the hob is on par, of course, with the curbstones. I don't feel any inconvenience.
True, Keshi and very high pots I do not have.

Thank you Checkmark. I'll think about it!

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, Olya! I have all high - no problems, only my mother is 154. And then, at the dacha, I put the kitchen on the podium in general - the height is 96 cm (they took me out the plinth and I raised the floor tiles by 2 cm, and put the plinth higher up - it is more convenient to wash and nothing crumbles under the plinth) mom got used to it. So, what is there already specifically for each person.

I don't see a problem. You buy legs for kitchen bases with a height of 18 (they are on sale in OBI or in construction markets), exchange them for them,

Not an option, Top cabinets and range hood will be too low on the hob.
And the sockets on the apron ...

I have a 10 cm base!

My base is slightly higher, the ikeevsky box is just right, but we did not fasten the front aluminum handle panel. We screwed on the "finishing panel" of the drawer, it is sold separately 9.4 cm. Only the handle was not made, we open it from the side.

Wow! But this is already interesting!
Tatyana, thank you very much!
I'll have to stop by Ikea with a roulette.

Please, if you want to clarify anything, ask. The panel is sold separately, keep in mind that there are all different sizes. And yet, there you need to measure the distance between the legs, the box is attached under them. I have them a little wider than necessary, but everything holds up and opens normally.

[George]

George, but don't your legs, or rather your kitchen, have no height move? For me, for example, they twist, you can lift from 10 to 15 cm, if necessary. Yes, and Tatiana offered a good option?
In general, tandemboxes are very good. I regret that I only put one.

I have legs up to 11 cm.
Now I looked at the instructions for assembling the "basement box" on the site, there, at number 3, just that panel is screwed, which we replaced. You can also put such a box under the table more than 60 cm, just add the front leg at the right distance, but I don't know how to close the rest of the space.

the legs of your kitchen do not have a height move?

No, I wrote above that I will not be able to lift it.

I have legs up to 11 cm.
... number 3 is exactly the panel that we replaced.

Yes, I have already read the instructions. There is a chance!
It will only be necessary to walk more carefully in size.

I nevertheless put the Ikeevsky kitchen (it is loudly said, of course ... several cabinets fit, but fit in size). A 60 cm sink with a cut-in sink turned out to be a success, and below, in the sink cabinet, a compact tabletop dishwasher 55 cm in front was installed - I now have a "tabletop". True, I do not have a front door on the sink, or rather, the door was bought, but did not install it, it is more convenient. After all, the sink opens and leans forward. This is every time you open-close the door .. laziness

[Vei]

Vei, Liz, I remembered, an acquaintance 6-7 years ago set himself a "Stolplit" kitchen. I am very pleased, everything is fine with her, BUT he is a man who hardly cooks. So I can't be responsible for the quality.I can only say for sure that the price is lower than in Ikea.

Liza! There is also a luxury factory online. You can order only facades separately or order a kitchen from them. Website 🔗 Here you can see the prices separately for facades and hulls. Many people order only facades. I can’t compare prices with Ikea, I don’t know.

"Stolplit" the kitchen

I was in their stores a couple of years ago, but I did not understand what you can pay for there, I wouldn’t take them for free, they are so condo, not one part fits and does not fit into another, some jambs are there ...
I now have a kitchen at home from the Kitchen Yard, this "g ..." I'll tell you, but the prices are sky-high, after them Ikea seems to be super quality, I am silent about the prices.

A 60 cm sink with a mortise sink turned out to be successful, and a compact tabletop dishwasher was installed in the sink cabinet below

I have the same, only 80 cm wardrobe and doors. All kinds of sponges and products are stored on the dishwasher and nearby, including those for the dishwasher.

kitchen from the Kitchen Yard

Thanks for your feedback! I haven't seen either one or the other alive.
I'll know
p. from. note to myself: peasants do not believe about kitchens

["Pillar"]

IN "Pillar" first, they squeezed out local workers and recruited gaster, mainly from the "western republics", and then they squeezed out middle managers - workshops, foremen ... they replaced them with gaster from "western" ones, and now they came to workers from Central Asia. The projects are not bad, but the execution ... Disgrace Skhodnya, you bastards.
To tell the truth, their predecessors (under a different name) even during the Soviet Union often had patterns for marking holes made of hardboard, but then at least the workers there, as after school came, so before retirement ... in short, they had "very sharp eye" .

that's the trouble now, there is nothing to buy, our all disgusting quality, even the ikea now, they say, has deteriorated. And imported goods for the euro are no longer affordable.

In general, we will not be making furniture soon. Konstantin is right - there are no masters left. I grew up in Maryina Roshcha, we had 2 furniture factories there, now there are two huge business centers. The furniture was, of course, filthy, but with the right approach it could have been done there, but now there is no space, no power, no hands, no brains. They all managed to sell and profuse ((((