* Anyuta *
Quote: Pichenka
It seems to me that in the picture there may be a ceiling one, but there are not foam, but solid ones, close to plastic.
There is .. I bought these in the bathtub on the ceiling - they are very durable, in my opinion they are called polyurethane ..

Quote: Pichenka
In general, it can cry at some local forum.

I have no time to cry - today I have to complete all the affairs with the apartment ... but who I can ask for - I know - they shouldn't refuse there ...
Manna
Quote: * Annie *
polyurethane
Polyurethane is stronger than foam, but they also cost more. Then the kitchen is better.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Manna
but they also cost more.
Mannochka, if I'm not mistaken, then the polyurethane 2-meter took rubles for 35-40 ... ... In short, I think so far ...
lega
Anyuta, so maybe then a self-adhesive plinth (it is also called a border tape) can be bought and not bathed? For example ...

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Vinochek
By the way, yes. This is a great thing! I bought this for the bathroom!
* Anyuta *
Quote: lga
For example ...

for sure - you also need to think ... this is what it means: one head is good, but two are even better ...
Girls! All together you are just a megamind !!!
Svetta
I glued the self-adhesive skirting board in my dad's apartment in the toilet and bathroom just like a skirting board. It has been worth it for 10 years.
Irgata
Quote: louisa
it is a household waste disposer or shredder
horror ==


It is difficult even to imagine how large the mass of chemicals contained in wastewater is that rushes through the sewer system. There are crushed nutrients of any kind, soap solutions and detergents, dyes and inks, cosmetics, slops and bleaches, resins and catalysts, enzymes and human and animal waste. Mixing in almost endless variations and concentrations at a wide variety of temperatures and pressures, these substances constitute the chemical cauldron from which anything can arise.

I remembered the terrible books from my childhood by Theodore L. Thomas Keith Wilhelm Clone

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Rarerka
How do you like this idea from the Internet?
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Ipatiya
Rarerka, cool idea!

Mona1
Kitchen is a dream
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Sens
unless there are biting mosquitoes and other small predators in the forest
Victoria_I
Hello everyone! And happy New Year! I have been reading the forum for a long time, especially the section of bakers and confectionery. I thought a lot about how to equip a kitchen in a small apartment, the kitchen is all 6 squares ... and household appliances are like in a store)) This is what I came up with.
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lega
Quote: Victoria_I
That's what I came up with

And where to look at the invented?
Victoria_I
I can't figure out how to insert an image, somehow everything is tricky (it seems like it turned out to insert a picture
Wit
1. Opening 🔗
2. If one photo - click "Overview"if more - click above the blue "here"
3. Select the photos one by one by clicking the next "Overview"
4. Having typed the required number of photos, click the wide button below "Download"
5. For each photo, select the SECOND BOTTOM line called "BBCode, lowercase letters: Picture in text"
6. Click on the line with the address and copy.
7. Paste the address into your message and click "Send"
Voila!

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Good luck!
Victoria_I
Thanks, it seems to work out

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lega
Victoria_I, for some reason your photos are not enlarged, and in this form nothing can be seen. Are you really uploading your photos? When uploading through the site, there are only two options - either a large picture, or click-to-enlarge.
Victoria_I
of course, my own, on the multicooker ru there is also my kitchen, but it’s easier there (and here such wisdom is straight
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Furniture for kitchen I don't understand anything, the photos from the gallery do not increase ... well, their
m0use
Well, figs with them with pictures, just tell us what your "ideas" are.
Victoria_I
Quote: m0use
Well, figs with them with pictures, just tell us what your "ideas" are.
they simply removed the wall adjacent to the hall and made a kitchen-studio, the space under the window was combined with the window sill with cabinets along, thereby closing the battery, the cabinets almost to the ceiling are so capacious and the sideboard is against the wall, the kitchen table was made like a bar counter there was more space
m0use
Well, this is not suitable for every apartment ... And we have wardrobes under the ceiling
Scarlett
Quote: m0use
Well, this is not suitable for every apartment ... And we have wardrobes under the ceiling
No need to say, Mouse, I have three-meter ceilings, the kitchen is all in wardrobes, the pantry is full of poses, and there is so much more hunting! I am trying to stop myself, there is no room, but it doesn’t help much! Rejoice at the crisis - you won't get very fast
Vika, not a bad idea, although I have a place do not skoka everything is not enough !!!!
Rita
Victoria_I, I liked your decision very much !!!
Victoria_I
Quote: Rita
Not a bad idea, although don't give me a place for a lope, it's all too little !!!!
oh, we women always have little space and technology in the kitchen
innesss-ka
Victoria_I, I do not understand where is the refrigerator?
Victoria_I
Quote: innesss-ka
Victoria_I, I don't understand where is the refrigerator?
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Furniture for kitchen in the second photo you can see where the refrigerator was hidden, though this photo is in the process of repair and without a kitchen set
innesss-ka
As I understand it, this was the entrance to the kitchen, and now there is a niche for the refrigerator. And the entrance is only through the room. In general, it looks beautiful.
Irina Dolars
Vika, this is a great way out
My dream came true. Just telepathy

I have questions ... Can I pester you?
How did you get permission to demolish the wall? How many were allowed to be destroyed? How much did the contract cost?
Did you break it yourself or did you hire builders? How long did it take?
I know that the roar is strong ... In this regard, what is the reaction of the neighbors? Did you write the ad?

And further...
After all, this wall is load-bearing ... How did you manage to make such a large opening?
As far as I know, only a small section is allowed to be cut out and must be strengthened with building blocks with reinforcement

Victoria_I
Quote: innesss-ka
As I understand it, it was the entrance to the kitchen, and now there is a niche for the refrigerator. And the entrance is only through the room. Overall looks beautiful
yes, where is the entrance now, there was the wall of the hall, and where the refrigerator was now it was a small corridor and the entrance to the kitchen, on one side a refrigerator stood on the other, the washing machine moved from the bathroom to the corridor and the bathroom became much freer
Victoria_I
Quote: Victoria_I
I have questions ... Can I pester you?
How did you get permission to demolish the wall? How many were allowed to be destroyed? How much did the contract cost?
Did you break it yourself or did you hire builders? How long did it take?
I know that the roar is strong ... In this regard, what is the reaction of the neighbors? Did you write the ad?

And further...
After all, this wall is load-bearing ... How did you manage to make such a large opening?
As far as I know, only a small section is allowed to be cut out and must be strengthened with building blocks with reinforcement
We did everything ourselves, without approval, since we did not touch the supporting beam, the lamps were just installed on it, everything was done by my husband without helpers (he is my TTT dilemma), the neighbors did not swear, because they broke everything during the day, I was on vacation relatives in St. Petersburg arrived a week later, the walls were gone))
Irina Dolars
Vika, lucky with her hardworking husband! Congratulations

We even need approval for a hole in the wall

Victoria_I
Quote: Irina Dolars
We even need approval for a hole in the wall
we own an apartment, if we say so, it was when we moved
Elena Tim
Quote: Irina Dolars
We even need approval for a hole in the wall
Yes, it's not just you, Irish.We are not like the United States, where each state has its own laws and procedures. In our country, the law is the same for everyone - without an appropriate examination of the architectural management, after which a permit for scrapping must be obtained from the district government (there is also such a special commission there), not only breaking a wall, but even a window from room to room cannot be done! This is not only illegal but downright dangerous.
Quote: Victoria_I
and, if we say so, it was when we moved
Vic, and you don’t have to say anything to anyone, the BTI plan will tell you everything, without which no action with real estate can do - buying and selling, exchange, etc. And it does not correspond to reality.
Bul
Flax, why? You can sell and buy an apartment without a BTI. Problems only with the mortgage. Banks give mortgages only with legalized redevelopment. And if people buy an apartment for cash and they are satisfied with that, the redevelopment is not legalized, since they liked the apartment with just such a layout, then there will be no problems.
Victoria_I
Quote: Elena Tim
Vic, and you don’t have to say anything to anyone, the BTI plan will tell you everything, without which no action with real estate can do - buying and selling, exchange, etc. And it doesn’t correspond to reality.
Yes, we do not plan to sell it, so we didn’t bother about approval, etc.
Vladzia
And BTIishniki are people too. And for a little bit they give any information for the bank without going to the place, but according to the photographs with the date. And photographs are taken in apartments without redevelopment. The main thing here is a fotik with the ability to indicate the date. And voila
* Anyuta *
Quote: Bulia

Flax, why? You can sell and buy an apartment without a BTI. Problems only with the mortgage. Banks give mortgages only with legalized redevelopment. And if people buy an apartment for cash and they are satisfied with that, the redevelopment is not legalized, since they liked the apartment with just such a layout, then there will be no problems.

Nothing like this. My grandmother signed the apartment, so when the owner was re-registered, the BTI plan was mandatory. Moreover, they did it twice: with the old owner and with the new one, that is, with me and with my grandmother.

Well, I sincerely sympathize with Victoria, because then there will be SO MANY problems with bti and just a bribe there will not be enough. Moreover, the BTI plan may be requested in those structures where you do not even expect it!
Victoria_I
Quote: * Annie *
Well, I sincerely sympathize with Victoria, because then there will be SO MANY problems with bti and just a bribe there will not be enough. Moreover, the battle plan may be asked in those structures where you do not even expect it!
why did you decide that we will have problems with the BTI? We will not sell the apartment, who, when he finds out that we have redone here? And if you need some piece of paper, then the price of the issue is from 10-25 thousand.
* Anyuta *
Victoria_I, well, well ..... Want to make God laugh, tell him about your plans for tomorrow! And lately I really like the proverb: without pieces of paper we are insects. And here not money is meant!
Irina Dolars
Do not upset Victoria in advance
Maybe everything will be all right if they don't sell, or the neighbors don't let it slip
Will just live and rejoice
And time will tell ...
Victoria_I
Quote: Irina Dolars
Do not upset Victoria in advance
Maybe everything will be all right if they don't sell, or the neighbors don't let it slip
Yes, I'm not upset) we have already done this and even sold such an apartment without any problems)) they paid 10 thousand for the piece of paper and it was in my pocket, there were no obstacles. Everything happens in different ways for everyone, we do not have a regional center, but a hinterland. do not find fault much.
Irina Dolars
So that's great! All that remains is to be happy for you
And be sad for yourself
Victoria_I
no need to be sad!
Christmas Eve is on the doorstep! Merry Christmas to all of you and may the Lord protect your families from adversity!
kseniya D
I went through the redevelopment and everything was done honestly, as expected, except for one wall, which just connects the kitchen and living room.When the girl from the BTI came (after the renovation it is a mandatory procedure, in order to get a certificate of registration later (we combined two apartments)), for a small reward, she "saw" this wall. And I, like you, are not going to sell this apartment, but if in the future my children want to do this, then they will face problems, since not just a wall is missing, but a wall in the room where the GAS cooker is located. A room with a gas stove should be separated not just by a wall with an arch, but there must be a door. About four years ago, I asked a realtor about the absence of a wall. In general, through real estate agencies, if you draw up the documents, then you can do without the BTI inspector entering the facility. Then the price of 40-50,000 was announced to me. I don’t know how it is now. Perhaps something has changed at all.
Chamomile
* Anyuta *, now everything has been simplified and the sale and purchase takes place without BTI. In general, transactions are now simplified compared to what they used to be. But this is the case if a simple purchase and sale for cash. Mortgages, inheritance, etc. are more complicated.
* Anyuta *
kseniya D, Ksyusha, now this figure is much higher. I personally pay a receipt for the BTI in November. So we now have an official exit only costs 9600 when providing transport there / back. Accordingly, you have it more expensive. The price of the question "close your eyes" now starts from 75,000-80000 rubles - it depends on the degree of acquaintance with the chief of the BTI. I agree that they will close their eyes in villages for 2000-3000 rubles. But here the price also directly depends on the location of the house, that is, they do not hesitate to look at the 'elite' of the area.
Vladzia
Ooo, Anyut, how is everything very twisted ... Recently we sold an apartment with a minor in a share, the amount of gifts is 5tr.
Victoria_I
about what I said, everyone has different appetites, someone breaks the price and fixes obstacles, someone's everything is smooth, everyone has their own troubles
Lettera
I don’t know about other cities, and how it’s done for a bribe, but if it is correct and honest, a redevelopment project is done and agreed.
Also, there is a catalog of ready-made redevelopments look here:
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If the apartment is in a typical house, you can use the layout from here, and agree on it in a simplified manner.

A catalog of permitted redevelopments has been developed in Moscow In order to prevent apartment renovations from causing conflicts not only with neighbors, but also with the authorities, a catalog has been developed with illustrative examples of authorized redevelopment of apartments in residential buildings of mass series. image Most of the housing stock in Moscow is made up of typical buildings. Currently, many residents of these houses want to re-plan their apartment. However, this is often very difficult to do due to existing restrictions (including those related to the safety of everyone living in the house). The created catalog will reduce both the time and material costs of residents for the development of a redevelopment project and its registration.
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The planning solutions presented in the catalog do not require preliminary examination of the apartment by specialists and the subsequent (targeted) development of the reconstruction project. It should be noted that the options proposed in the catalog do not allow to touch the load-bearing and external walls of the building. The exception is houses of the P44T and P44M standard series, in which, since 2007, openings are provided in the load-bearing walls (in Moscow, apartment redevelopment is carried out depending on the specific series of houses).
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When compiling the catalog, the existing design, technological and sanitary and hygienic restrictions were taken into account.
In addition, the document defines unacceptable types of redevelopment, among which:
• dismantling of ventilation ducts,
• transfer of risers of engineering communications,
• demolition of load-bearing walls of premises,
• expansion of bathrooms due to the area of ​​the kitchen or corridor,
• construction of openings in load-bearing walls (in the absence of a thorough survey, justification of the reconstruction and engineering calculations).

Elena TimLenus, you most likely have an old house, everything is more complicated there, in many old houses all the walls are load-bearing and redevelopment is possible only with the approval of the project. And it's better to first project, then repair, otherwise many do the opposite

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