Melanyushka
We had the same story. I live on the sixth floor, and in the house between the fifth and sixth floors there is a plumbing unit, the locksmith called it a comb, somehow the pipes are connected there (this is beyond my understanding), and so a crack formed there and the leak went to the fifth and lower floors, and I'm dry! We were already dealing with the technician from the housing office, then the locksmiths got to this unit and repaired everything. Look, maybe you have leaks not in your apartment, but in the general wiring around the house.
Newbie
My friends have a green kitchen with black asphalt. Many people do not like it, it’s dark, but I love it!
And I like orange better.
kseniya D
Irina, is there no way to remove the refrigerator from the kitchen? This, of course, will cause some inconvenience. But instead of it, you can put a column and a lot of things will fit into it.
ElenaMK
Iris. ka :-)
The option with a green top and a beige bottom, what was offered here is just super! :-) and just for a small kitchen! Dark and active colors such as orange will reduce the space, of course with a light one more hassle, but smart and airy!
V-tina
Quote: iris. ka
Here's another option.
Ira, you can try to conjure yourself .. of the simplest - the Stolplit program, you can arrange everything to your liking and then go to order the kitchen
kseniya D
Ikea also has a scheduler on the site. There you can see the result right in 3D.
mur_myau
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I broke the wall between the kitchen and the toilet. And I found it !!!!!!!
In the old apartment, EVERYTHING was sewn into the walls for us !!! How sorry we were later.
There was a fistula in the pipe with cold water, as luck would have it, below the site where the "lamb" was to be blocked.

So. I repeat, everything is sewn up. A hole with a size of 20 * 35 near the cistern. But a damp spot suddenly appeared on the wall in the entrance. I put my hand in a hole in the bathroom, like fog or condensation. I call the master who made the bath. (Murmansk, Oleg Ovchinnikov, if that).
He arrives, puts out his hand, says so confidently: "Condensate", insolently takes money for the visit.
Meanwhile, the stain on the wall in the entrance is generally wet.
I called the emergency gang. We put a temporary clamp and blocked it off. And then a normal locksmith with a material cut out a larger hole in the tile and gypsum board, got access and replaced a piece of the riser.

And even after that, any plumbing repairs in the apartment were a real problem.

Now we are doing repairs after the move, taught by bitter experience.
And communications are open, there is access. Either covered with a door (in the bathroom), or pipes were running under the cabinets (in the kitchen).
Kara
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I also have an additional light under the hanging drawers. Very comfortably.
+100500 only I have an LED strip on the edge of the upper cabinets attached end-to-end to the wall. I'll take a picture at home and show it.

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drawers are much more convenient than drawers with shelves. e boxes.

And then I completely agree!
Olga VB
iris. ka, Irisha, I didn't understand anything about the second option, but in the first one I would have made another shelf above the refrigerator and all the upper shelves up to the ceiling, or I would simply put another row of shelves there.
For example, the lower facades are green, the upper ones are in white stripes, and the upper ones are just matte white (at IKEA, such matte white ones will cost you 1.5 thousand for a whole row together with the mount).
I completely agree with the girls about the drawers.
If you have enough kitchen helpers, then the stove is quite 2-burner.
Washing in the corner is not very convenient, but if it doesn’t work otherwise
And one more thing: a square sink is more convenient than a round one.
On the right, where you have open shelves at the top and bottom, you could make a column. Install a dishwasher or freezer into it from below, then an oven, a microwave above it.
Then to the left of the column, at some distance, there is a 2-burner stove, and the sink along the left wall is closer to the corner.
This frees up a fairly large workplace between the sink and the refrigerator.
You can make a similar arrangement, just change the column and refrigerator in places. Then next to the refrigerator is the sink, then the hob, then the work surface.
If it's not clear, I can draw.
Shelena
Quote: iris. ka

Here are photos of the projects.

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All on one side. Left recesses: below for pm, at the top for mv. There are very few functional boxes. They are either narrow or shallow.
Irina, I would also not advise you to do a sink in the corner - you will lose a lot of usable space. Check out these my posts with photos.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=136&topic=1366.0
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I allocated a 40 cm cupboard for the sink, but I use the entire corner 100% (the carousel is very convenient).
And make a cabinet above the refrigerator. It is convenient to store everything for baking there.
variety
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About the blue version: is it possible to measure the clearance for the legs? I will answer - there it is at least 10 cm - a couple more cm and now the place for the bottle is lost ...
There are options not to completely lose this place, if you use a little imagination:
1. Attach slats between the legs and hang towels on them.
2. Between the legs, if there is "at least 10 cm", you can make shelves with a small thin "rim" and put narrow jars, bags, jars of spices and herbs, narrow and small kitchen gadgets on them: baking paper, foil, syringe confectionery. In general, little things that we used to hide in boxes. And so, you need something, the hostess rolls out the table a little and everything is in front of her eyes.
This is so offhand.
variety
Quote: iris. ka
I want to ask, a glass false panel with a pattern in a small kitchen I think will not look.
It seems to me that a small kitchen needs a minimum of decorative details. The more decorations and bright "spots", the more the feeling of clutter will be created in the room. After all, you will have different kitchen utensils in your kitchen, and if you also place different bright drawings on the walls, the congestion of the interior is ensured.
variety
Quote: iris. ka
Oh, and by the way, here are the colors you chose.
I am more impressed by light green, as a colder one, if I choose from two colors. Just orange, as a warmer and more saturated "dominant" color, in my opinion, will slightly "compress" the space.
And, in general, I would not choose either one or the other in a small room. In a small room, lighter and "pastel" colors are preferable. They move the walls a little.
toffee
Wow, how many good comments.
First, I'll report on the flood. The neighbors' apartment is insured. A man came from the housing office, drew up an act. I asked what are we preparing for? (how much?) They said they didn't know. Let's wait.
Olga VB, I carefully read your recommendations. Much is correct, but on the right we have an entrance. Will you feel like you are entering a tunnel? The side is shady, won't it overhang.
Shelena, your cleaning advice comes in handy. I am also at war with shops.
toffee
toffee
And here's another option. This is not a set-up, this is a set of furniture for one tabletop. Lots of downsides. Cabinets are mostly shelves, not drawers as you advise. By the way, I would not have thought about it. Thanks for the tip.
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The refrigerator, however, remained in the same place, at the opposite wall. So of course there are more opportunities, but he bothered me in the old place, I wanted a change. As someone advised, take it to another place, no. Nowhere. And yes, this option is 20 thousand more expensive.
Tomorrow we will go to ikea. Let's ask the price.
V-tina
Irina, I like this one more than the previous ones
Quote: iris. ka
Lots of downsides. Cabinets are mostly shelves, not drawers as you advise.
you can order everything the same, but with drawers .. and yes, the sink in the corner may actually not be convenient to use
Chamomile
Yes Yes Yes!!! I fully support Shelena. I have a sink in a corner cabinet, how much space is wasted !!!!! Hang these siphons, washer and dishwasher connections. Well, I put something there on the sides and on the bottom, but it's absolutely not rational! I even plan to redo it, move the sink over another cabinet, and use the corner cabinet to its fullest, it is so roomy !!!
Ir, instead of a corner trapezoidal cabinet, as in your picture, you can use a corner cabinet with one closed door, then there you can attach a sink for 50, and use the corner cabinet itself. But don't put a sink in the corner there.
Niarma
Shelena, looked at the photo of your kitchen. Please tell me the material and color of the facades. Like Irina, she was tortured with the choice of colors. I came up with the kitchen for more than a year - I wanted everything to fit in and be at hand. It seems to have worked out, but I can't decide on the color (the tile is creamy)
Midnight lady
iris. ka, and where do the upper cabinets open? Hopefully not up?
And I still can't understand hanging the microwave, it's terribly inconvenient, it is elementary to unfold a bowl of soup until you reach it. There is little space, of course, but convenience in the kitchen is so important.
Chamomile
iris. ka, in a small kitchen, a window sill can be used for appliances. You can hang narrow cabinets on the opposite wall, above the table.
toffee
Midnight lady, her, nothing opens up. And with a microwave oven an ambush. Now it is on my table. Eats up a lot of space. But conveniently there are no words. The girls write that if you do not hang it high, then it is also convenient.
Chamomile1, I don't want any awnings over the dining table. I also have a refrigerator there. It turns out like you embed yourself in furniture. And our windowsill freezes in winter, the mv will deteriorate. And my favorite orchids live there too.
bukabuza
Irina, the sink is in the corner, well, it is not very convenient, it eats up so much useful space when I didn’t think about it in the kitchen.
Consider whether you need a large oven. You can take a volume of 42 liters, and build a microwave oven above it and raise the lower cabinets a little higher.
Scarecrow
I have a green top and a dark gray bottom for the new kitchen. The apron is orange. Looks great.
Olga VB
Nata, you forget that you have open spaces, and Irina has a small size. All the same, in different areas it is felt differently.
As for light colors, I agree with the girls, but the same light green can be light ...
I also agree about the ruffled countertop.
Cirre
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Scarecrow
Olga VB,

Agree. In a very small kitchen, nevertheless, light colors are needed so as not to feel a small space.

Although personally my cooking zone is 11 meters long. Not to say that there is a golf course right))). The dining room is separate.
Cirre
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kseniya D
About the microwave. A year ago, she broke down with us. I thought that without her, it’s like no hands. Well this is how many unnecessary dishes will have to be washed (although there is a dishwasher), how dreary it will be to warm up the food In general, the "withdrawal" lasted two weeks. I'm doing great without it and I'm not going to buy. Yes, I started to wash more dishes, but it’s not me, but the machine. Well, food takes 10 minutes longer to heat up, but that's not critical. And the son of a friend is a physicist, he said to throw out the nafik.
toffee
Cirre, Checkmark, thanks for the interesting options. Girls, take a look and discuss the option with a sink right behind the refrigerator. At first I caught fire, but at a second glance I think it will not be convenient. How do you like it?
toffee
Quote: bukabuza


Consider whether you need a large oven. You can take a volume of 42 liters.,
I’m probably deep tundra in hairy felt boots. And what, ovens are not standard sizes? I either did not focus on this or we do not.
Katerina2
iris. ka, I absolutely do not like the option right next to the refrigerator (or cabinet). Hands will be uncomfortable - what to do with the elbow? Splashing on the wall is untidy. A large saucepan or a frying pan with a long russet will clatter against the wall.
There is such a concept - the golden triangle of the kitchen. Refrigerator, sink, stove. Sink - on the edge of a right angle, from it at equal distances - refrigerator and stove.So walking around the kitchen less, there are 2 work areas on the sides of the sink. My side of the sink - the refrigerator is a little longer - there is Cubix, a microwave oven and a coffee maker. But even at the same time, the working area, albeit narrow, remains.
V-tina
Quote: Katerina2
Hands will be uncomfortable - what to do with the elbow?
I support. My sink is mounted at a short distance from the refrigerator, then it is convenient, and if there is a dishwasher and 2 male pigs, the wall is relatively clean .. there are problems with the camera, but it would show .. immediately to the right of the refrigerator I have a cabinet on 80, a sink is built into it, but it is shifted to the maximum to the right and a small sink wing takes up half of the countertop towards the refrigerator. Thus - I solved several problems at once: it is convenient for me - I wanted a sink just behind the refrigerator, so as not to run around with food in the kitchen and I do not bump my elbows into the refrigerator; almost no splashes on the side of the refrigerator; the floor of the cabinet under the sink is fenced off with a wall and shelves are made - there are household chemicals and all kinds of sponge-brushes for kitchen cleaning
kseniya D
I have a sink right behind the fridge. I see no problems with a dishwasher. I washed it, wiped the wall with a napkin and that's it. For me, the main thing was to maximize the working surface, so it was easier for me to sacrifice the convenience at the sink than to take extra cm at the desktop. On page 115 of the photo.
variety
I have a microwave at chin level. I will not say that it is inconvenient, but I would like to lower it a little lower: to check the readiness of food (especially in dishes with high sides), you have to stand on your feet, and you have to take it out with a little more tension (especially liquid food) than usual. And if the mikrusha hung even higher, it would be generally inconvenient!
variety
Quote: Chamomile1
iris. ka, in a small kitchen, a window sill can be used for appliances. You can hang narrow cabinets on the opposite wall, above the table.
I also have a technique on a small windowsill.
And the windowsill can also be put under a dining or cutting table.
variety
Quote: Olga VB
As for light colors, I agree with the girls, but the same light green can be light ...
Any color, of course, but desaturated!
And I also really like light-light gray!
Katerina2
kseniya D, nice cuisine! And the layout is interesting.
variety
Quote: kseniya D
And the son of a friend is a physicist, said to throw out nafik
And we have a family friend, a physicist of that, Soviet education, who graduated from the university with honors, wrote and defended the "pre-Khurskaya" and many scientific works, worked for a long time at the Academy of Sciences, for many years (and even now works for a third of a year) in research laboratory, who taught at Princeton, and also periodically travels to Cern, always laughs for a long time (one might say "laughs") at the fears of microwaves and in all his apartment houses in the kitchen constantly uses a microwave oven. He says that only a person who is illiterate in physics does not understand that there is the same physics of heating food on the stove and in the microwave oven.
kseniya D
Well, wonderful. Everyone decides for himself what to use and what not.
elenvass
Quote: Olga VB
Very practical!
First of all, these are additional storage places, secondly, visually, oddly enough, the kitchen has become larger and higher
Olga, thank you very much for the idea!
variety
Quote: Katerina2

iris. ka, I absolutely do not like the option right next to the refrigerator (or cabinet). Hands will be uncomfortable - what to do with the elbow? Splashing on the wall is untidy. A large saucepan or a frying pan with a long russet will clatter against the wall.
There is such a concept - the golden triangle of the kitchen. Refrigerator, sink, stove. Sink - on the edge of a right angle, from it at equal distances - refrigerator and stove. So walking around the kitchen less, there are 2 work areas on the sides of the sink. My side of the sink-refrigerator is a little longer - there is Cubix, a microwave oven and a coffee maker. But even at the same time, the working area, albeit narrow, remains.
I have a sink near the wall, somehow this wall does not bother me much.How does the wall of the room differ from the wall of the refrigerator (if, of course, there is a distance between the sink and the wall of the refrigerator, see ..
The wall of the refrigerator can always be wiped or covered with foil.
The Golden Triangle is, of course, a recognized standard, and it is, indeed, convenient. But he is not a dogma either, read it, it is said everywhere that in the case of a small kitchen it is quite possible that this triangle can be broken.
variety
kseniya D, just looked at a photo of your kitchen. I really liked!
Only a sink between two walls would not recommend to those who do not have a PM.
variety
Quote: kseniya D

Well, wonderful. Everyone decides for himself what to use and what not.
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Katerina2
variety, but no one argues. Everyone draws his own kitchen, based on the size, habits, financial capabilities, desired household appliances, knowledge, ideals. For example, I never wanted a kitchen combined with a room. Beautiful, interesting, designer - our friends have such, and very beautiful. But I don't like that, I have a kitchen in 14 squares and a kitchen balcony (the balcony door is removed, on the wide resulting window sill - the same countertop as in the kitchen itself) is enough. My close friend has a one-room apartment, she made a kitchen-room: she put a folding sofa and a closet for linen. Everything is very cramped there, but very comfortable and cute. But there is simply no other way ...
variety
Katerina2, so I do not argue, but express my point of view Of course, whoever is comfortable.
You have an even larger kitchen, I will have a smaller one. And I don't have enough. I would still have the same (or better two are the same) I think, and after that I would say: "It will not be enough!". The hamster is an irrepressible creature.
Katerina2
varietyFor some reason, since childhood, I wanted a kitchen in 18 squares. Why exactly 18, how this figure got into my head, I don't know! And when I saw that there were "only" 14 in this apartment, I sighed .... and that was after 6 squares in the old apartment!
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Katerina2, the appetite comes with eating I, with my thriftiness of protein and plushkinism, do not have enough "cupboards" for storage. And it seems like I hit myself on the hands all the time, but again and again I buy many gizmos in duplicate "for every fireman", and I also do not ignore grocery supplies. Shop FSE at hand and in stock! And we do not have cellars-pantries, so I keep that on a warmed, but non-scalded loggia (cereals, for example, whenever I start one pack, I buy immediately the next one; flour, which always needs a lot and is different due to the presence of a bread machine; dried fruit seeds ; vegetables and fruits), and what is in the kitchen. And in our stores it is not always possible to find the desired product of the desired TM or manufacturer. And from time to time I participate in joint purchases of dried fruits, seeds and additives for sweet baked goods, because it is much cheaper than buying in stores or in markets, and we simply don’t have much in Minsk. Space is too little !!!

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