Ukka
Vovan, Internet shops adapt to the market conditions. They supply goods for sale that are inexpensive and are in demand for a quick turnover of money. In ordinary stores in my city in (6-8 was, Foxtrot, Comfi and the local network "Planet") there are Panasonic - take it - I don't want .... The price is from 1300 UAH for a large one and from 780 for a small one ... And people take Perfetsu , Weight, not only Dex on sale.
I don't want to answer your last paragraph, so much has been said above about this ...
But if you just want Panasonic - buy it !!!!
The multicooker will delight you every day !!!
Any !!!
Gypsy
sazalexterthat you are worn with these services nafik is needed at all, the thing should work and then the service is not needed .. it's better not to know the way there. In general, in America and China, I buy equipment, and I don't think about any service. I also pinned cars from Russia. Everything works great and without service for MANY years!
Ukka
Gypsy, Rina72, CosmoLady, lesik_l absolutely agree with you !!!
500 UAH for Dex or Pefetsu is the cost of two normal Teflon-coated pans. Dex or Perfets worth two such pans - definitely worth it !!!
Wants Vovan Panasonic - let him buy !!! Cartoon as a cartoon !!!
And service is such a thing ... It's a little off topic ... My Binaton bread maker stopped working, it worked for more than 2 years, there is a service, but in Donetsk for 70 km and shipments here and there, plus after warranty repair will cost me UAH 200 ... And the new one (Orion 27) costs less than 400 ... So I'll go and buy a new one better !!! Already ordered !!!
sazalexter, I foresee your remark about Panasonic ... If my bread maker was also Panasonic and stopped working, I would have to send it to a service in Donetsk just like that and sit without equipment for a long time ...

Vovan
Well! The problem, in the form of my torment P-18 or D-50, was resolved by itself. My son just called and said that he and his wife decided to give me a gift on NG - a cartoon. Not knowing about my suffering, throwing, they ordered a P-18. Already paid, tomorrow they will bring it from the Internet - Magaz. I'm waiting. But I'll tell you anyway. About service - we all, of course, hope that our equipment will work without breakdowns. And I meant the service, as the development of the infrastructure of a company for the future on the market, and not Toko as a rem. workshop. I do not persuade or discourage anyone. I want for myself (now I already wanted) to choose a device that meets my cooking requirements. Although I can cook and (the strangest thing) I love, but I would like to unload my stay in the kitchen. Women understand me. This does not mean that my wife does not cook, but this is how it turns out ... Therefore, my desire is thrown, turned on, forgot, I should not take it literally. Where you need to fry, I'll do it, where will you go. But otherwise I would like to be simpler and tastier, without any problems - burnt, opal, damp, etc. And then somehow the mustache pounced on me aggressively. And at the prices I agree. On Panas, prices are overpriced by an order of magnitude. But this is our Honduran "market", where to go. And yet - everyone knows that 99% of the recipes on all sites are under Panasonic. Although my question is closed - the choice was made, although not by me))). I am glad that my son, without knowing it, returned me a peaceful sleep. Shutka.
Gypsy
Quote: Vovan

Cheap is not good. Moreover, the Chinese.

Again I will quote the movie * Back to the Future *
1955:

Doc: * Now it's clear why the fuse burned out, it says * made in japan *
Marty: * What are you trying to tell Doc? All the best electronics are made in Japan *
Doc: * INCREDIBLE ... !! *
julifera
Vovan - I sincerely congratulate !!!

With my parents (count from my dad - because in Panasy he cooks exclusively, his mother is a terrible conservative, everything is rested on the stove) - so they have 2 Panasas for the second year - during this time he has not a single punctured dish

Happy as an elephant!
Although believe me - he did not read the forums, he is generally very far from the Internet, and it is not necessary to say that the charms / recipes of Panas are informationally inflated for many years here - he mastered everything himself

For the money, there has already been a hundred times the opportunity to buy some other company - does not want

_________________
I here at work persuaded an employee to buy a multicooker.
Believe me, I tried very hard not to put a strong emphasis on Panas.
She gave exactly the same arguments as already sounded here - they say you take this money from small Panas to take down 2 dex or 2 perfets, they say the pans are better there.

But he firmly decided that he would take Panas.
What was decisive for him?
Not at all a service and not an opportunity to buy a spare tire for it
But the fact that:
- Panas is just simple, that you don't need to adapt to it and rack your brains a lot (as we women love);
- that it has low power;
- that there is not enough marriage among Panas;
- that it is more compact, almost 2 times less space on the table will take (compared to Perfetskaya and Dex)

That's all, but this was enough for Panas to outweigh, although believe me - he is a strong economy and the price matters to him.

________________
I myself looked at the Italians and the Perfezza and the Dex, and now Marusi appeared at all.
But I came to the conclusion that the maximum of what I still lacked for complete happiness was Sorovar Cuckoos - and that's it - now the Wishlist for the rest of the multi has smoothly dissolved

Rina
Quote: sea39

help with advice !! :) for the new year is it possible to choose a cartoon gift or an airfryer or a slow cooker? firms present in our stores Panas 4.5l (3000 rubles), mulinex4.5l (4500 rubles) and benaton, but in my HP, I don’t need it)) I never saw the slow cooker anywhere. Or order on no Brand, read about him Temki on our forum?
so, sir ... from your list, I would choose a Panasonic (all the more, at such a decent price). If the moulinex is in a metal case with a black lid, then on it (and tefal at the same time) our respected ukka The service masters of one of the vendor-sellers said loud FUUUUUUUUU ... And Binaton is most likely a hybrid multicooker + bread maker.

If you are looking for a slow cooker, then try using the search engine to ask slow cooker, slowcooker, crock pot... The fact is that sellers often do not really know what the name of the equipment they sell is (we have a simple rice cooker and a slow cooker under the cool name of a multicooker). And then all this is driven into the section of double boilers.
julifera
Quote: Rina72

One of my usual recommendations is to try to hold the technique in your hands. If it is yours, it will "stick" to your hands. If there is no such possibility, then you will have to rely on luck in choosing (which does not exclude the search and study of the available information).

I support!
At one time I also wanted to, so I wanted an airfryer, it was a hotter, there was nowhere to feel, I even started preparing to order it through an Internet shop.
And then, finally, a point with them appeared in our city - well, I felt it once, two, three - as if I wanted to, but my hands don't stick.

Then, when finally the fuse went out, I realized that it was just absolutely out of my hand, precisely in terms of convenience, in terms of size, as I think how it is inconvenient to wash it, it’s not very desirable to cook in it. It’s good that I didn’t buy it, but it could have pierced.

And someone in general is bastard from airfryer.
Whom what, but it's up to you personally ...
julifera
By the way, before I bought the first tajin, I was persuaded to buy it from abroad for a whole year. I had to endure for a whole year, want and deny myself.
But when I saw it alive, it disappeared

At home it was distributed as follows:

- The big panasonic has gone into the possession of her son, slowly but reliably he prepares shells for us in her when in the house devour there is absolutely nothing to eat (though with the advent of Kuku the need for horns has sharply decreased)

- small Panasonic - away, as a rule, it is rarely used but aptly

- Pressure cooker cuckoo - saves me after work - it's a miracle of speed and constantly fresh food and convenience with handles on the sides!

- well, on weekends - I give myself pleasure and cook in tajins and clay pots

Although, to be honest, it's so secret - with the advent of the Kuku-pressure cooker, there are too many ready-made food in the house and at the same time I cook much less, it's so unusual ... it dampens, however, take the pressure cooker away from me now, and how can I return to the origins of hours of cooking ...
sazalexter
IRR And if you touch the cookie 1054 ... Actually, I thought it was a purely male occupation ...
julifera
Quote: sazalexter

IRR And if you touch the cookie 1054 ... Actually, I thought it was a purely male occupation ...

And we also love to love with our hands And even more so IRR
IRR
Quote: sazalexter

IRR And if you touch the cookie 1054 ... Actually, I thought it was a purely male occupation ...
whispering pots - a purely male occupation? oh don't scare me, Sanya! (if I didn’t know that your profession is a service worker, I would think bad)
sazalexter
Quote: IRR

whispering pots - a purely male occupation? oh don't scare me, Sanya! (if I didn’t know that your profession is a service worker, I would think bad)
Irina shshupat in general .... and not pans. Although you won't touch anything
Crook
Finally, my soul calmed down - I happily became the owner of a Panasonic multicooker 18. In Technopolis I saw the entire lineup of Dexa, Kuku, Moulinexa, and Panasa, and opposite in Komfi - Perfeza. But Panasonic stuck to my hands. And the consultant also said that milk porridge can only be cooked in Panas, and the instructions for the cuckoo say that this absolutely cannot be done (according to the seller - the consultant) The only drawback for me (as I understand it in all multicooker) is that before When cooking has started, the auto-heating mode cannot be turned off.
IRR
blah ... ustrenit this consultant yes in a dark alley

Quote: Griftah

a) The only drawback for me (as I understand it in all multicooker) is that before starting cooking, you cannot turn off the auto-heating mode.
is it like this? Did I miss something?

Cheat!, Congratulations! Join our friendly team of opponents of slave labor in the kitchen.
Wildebeest
Quote: Griftah

The only drawback for me (as I understand it in all multicooker) is that before starting cooking, you cannot turn off the auto-heating mode.
But here, too, we found a way out of the created "inconvenience".
We bought an electronic timer, we program it so that at the end of the program, switching to the heating mode, the cartoon is disconnected from the network.
This is our way out of a stalemate.
sazalexter
Kuku 1054 perfectly cooks porridge in milk! And in which cartoon can you set 90 * C, cooking as in the "Russian oven" and for 35-60 minutes, for example ??? If only in slow cookie, but this is a separate topic ...
katyac
Quote: Griftah

The only drawback for me (as I understand it in all multicooker) is that before starting cooking, you cannot turn off the auto-heating mode.
Something I did not understand ... For example, I can cook soup, then press the heating / off function. and cook porridge, can't you? How long should you wait between cooking different dishes?
Rina
katyac, the inability to turn off the automatic heating after the end of the program is not quite what you understood. Users complain that they cannot set the program so that at the end multicooker did not switch to auto-heating mode.

For example, I don't like buckwheat to soak in water for a long time, so I can't leave the porridge for a delay. And if I turn on the preparation of porridge right before leaving, then it will be auto-warmed up, probably until my arrival, that is, it will dry out a lot.
vittenberg
Dear happy owners of MV DEX, tell me, please. My husband offered to give me a MV for the new year. I still hesitate between panas and dex, but still lean towards dex.I am interested in the possibility of cooking without my participation by a certain time, since my husband and I live in one city, and work in another, I would like to be able to get a hot dinner upon arrival from work. Is there an opportunity in MV to load up the necessary products in the morning, set the regime and that's it? In order not to stir, not to report anything. Could it be just porridge? Or can the soup be cooked too? Perhaps this has already been discussed - stick your nose. I have little time left to make a decision.
IRR
vittenberg, welcome to the forum

You can also soup and borscht (if you get up 5 minutes earlier and spend a little time on frying). This is the whole trick, that you lay everything and at once. This thing is irreplaceable for working owners. It was discussed more than once in the topics of Panasonic, when it first appeared. Buy and come back with a pot. We will discuss the subtleties.
IRR
Quote: vittenberg

Irr, thank you very much! I read the thread a little, did I understand correctly that most of the recipes from Panas are adaptable to dex?
vittenberg, all recipes are adapted to everything. And even your loved ones, which you used to cook on gas, on the stove. It is only necessary to understand in the modes - where is what power and you will switch, use the buttons to click the only way! And if you leave, then on the timer and on the most gentle mode - extinguishing (languor). All. Nothing will run away, but ready! ... Your participation is minimal - toss everything into the pot. (and before that buy)
vittenberg
Yesterday evening, my husband and I went to Technopolis, where Panasonic and Dex are standing next to each other. They picked it up, twisted it - looked, the husband also noted that the dex's saucepan is more reliable. Says - let's buy, I still doubted which one to choose. He said choose yourself (the difference in price is two times) what you want - and we will take this. Well, we talked and left. And at night I dreamed that for the new year I was cooking stewed potatoes with meat and mushrooms in sour cream in a slow cooker, in dex. Or is it a sign, or my brain has made a choice
IRR
Quote: vittenberg

And at night I dreamed that for the new year I was cooking stewed potatoes with meat and mushrooms in sour cream in a slow cooker, in dex. Or is it a sign, or my brain has made a choice


I did it with a slow cooker. Delirious. I haven't bought it yet. 2 pieces. Your devicegolic nature speaks in you - we are all like that.
Quote: vittenberg

Yesterday evening, my husband and I went to Technopolis, there are Panasonic and Dex
What is it ... Yesterday I went in for the night looking at COMFI - there is a whole series of Perfez, and the cheapest one is 55 - 399 grams (like my simplest rice cooker, on which I learned the basics - 2-button Comfort - and it was 420). A year ago and now too. Further - there were small mulinexes of the multicooker, and most importantly, the pressure cooker = multicooker Tefal - electric - with a removable lid - that's why I suffer all day today. Cooking pea soup in 3 minutes and jellied meat in 3 hours is the limit of my dreams. Moreover, it also has a timer and baked goods, etc., with the necessary programs. (issue price 1500 gr). If someone is confused about buying a multi, please note. The analogue of the Cuckoo is apparently only cheaper.

shl. Yes ... I completely forgot to write that 2 Panasonic also stand aside Mlynn, this is a dream from my past life! Rina, YUKKA , can you imagine? There is a bunch of multicooker at a normal divine price and there is no excitement !!!! : yahoo: we survived, Ol!
vittenberg
Well, well, do not seduce, otherwise my husband already thinks me crazy, although he puts up with my addiction to kitchen appliances. We just bought an apartment recently, empty, dead, repair 7 months already and this is only half of the repair. The gas stove did not work there at all, I had to take an old one from my relatives. We don't have kitchen furniture yet, only a table from the old parental set and 3 stools, and only one saucepan for 2 liters (left over from student days), I bought a frying pan on the weekend (340 UAH blin). But I already have a microwave and a blender, so I want a cartoon. And I also want a new refrigerator, an electric oven, a bread maker, a meat grinder + grater (2in1), a yogurt maker, a dishwasher (gyy, we don't even have a sink in the kitchen yet), oh yes well, and a sewing machine, so that there is something to do with myself while I have in the kitchen, everything is cut / stewed / cooked by itself He will send me to my parents for another half a year
lesik_l
vittenberg, I explain to my husband my craving for kitchen appliances with female logic: If you don't want to buy, cook it yourself, dishwasher - wash the dishes. Now I'm trying to persuade you to use a robot vacuum cleaner. This is in my plans for the next. year.
vittenberg
He washes the dishes at my place anyway (in a whisper: he cooks for me too) so when they saw a compact PMM model in the store (like a tabletop for 4-6 sets in my opinion), he himself gave a hint about the purchase, I did not mind, but this is still in distant plans
lenok2_zp
Now I'm trying to persuade you to use a robot vacuum cleaner.
when I heard about this miracle, I almost got into convulsions
IRR
Quote: Qween

IRRochka, do you remember exactly which model of this Tefalca pressure cooker?
Anya! I was in shock while the seller himself tried to unscrew the lid from it with shaking hands. I thought I'd take a look at home. Duc, I can't find it! Tomorrow I'll go to read the instructions, on purpose. Hey and outside the city we have it - and ZHO PA you do? Hunting is worse than bondage An, I was already wondering - is it Tefal at all - I felt so many things yesterday.
Quote: lenok2_zp

when I heard about this miracle, I almost got into convulsions
Girls! you are all straightforward, like the party line. Have pity on your men and show empathy. Even on NG. The approach is needed, like: drinks: and
lenok2_zp
The approach is needed, like
that here and so, one continuous approach, in order to buy a cartoon, it was almost necessary to arrange dances with tambourines, I am generally silent about a robot vacuum cleaner
IRR
Quote: lenok2_zp

that here and so, one continuous approach, in order to buy a cartoon, it was almost necessary to arrange dances with tambourines, I am generally silent about a robot vacuum cleaner
Linen! Will get used to it! The conditioned reflex - call - saliva - meat - is developed in 3 months. (Science) Water, as you know, wears away a stone. And we girls ... - do not wash, so by rolling.
Ukka
Quote: IRR

ato!
YUCCA! ! Sting ischo that-thread - it looks like you are with us Cassandra! (I will hint in a whisper - pay more salary)

I wish everyone health, family happiness, and enough money to be enough !!!
IRR


thank you benefactress

Choosing a slow cooker, rice cooker (1)

well, soon they will give me in the neck? (hto we have a good modernization today?)
ValeryVP
Quote: vittenberg

Yesterday evening, my husband and I went to Technopolis, where Panasonic and Dex are standing next to each other. ..
and two days ago I traveled all over the city in search of MV (we decided to make a gift). There is only one store for the whole city. Sellers "giggle" like: "we didn’t expect, we shoveled everything, such a stir" (these are buyers, probably, they got to our favorite site ...)
Olyalya82
Quote: vittenberg

And I also want a new refrigerator, electric oven, bread maker, meat grinder + grater (2in1) ...
But I didn’t like it, I bought a DEX meat grinder + graters + tomato juicer 155th model. Graters work well, but only for their design. The harvester rubs much better simply because it does it faster, its speed of the grater is many times higher, so less human effort is required.
In general, all-all-all! Happy New Year! Stob we all did not get bored and did not lose the mood to create art in the kitchen!
Rina
well, this is already somewhere closer to tbusiness ...
By the way, everyone

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

IRR
Quote: Rina72

eeeeee ... Cassandra somehow didn't finish very well ... Let's make some other comparison ...
I'm guessing she got into the closet and was flooded with devices?

Congratulations on NG : flowers: Non-routine work in the kitchen!
Rina
finally I will get my yunold and try to master it. And maybe I will go over to the owners of dex (Panas will leave for another city to provide hot food to my husband)
Crook
Gnu, thanks for the good idea about the electronic timer.
Happy New Year to everyone! By the way, the jellied meat in the cartoon turned out to be wonderful - transparent, froze well, and most importantly, she did everything herself while I was sleeping. I already love her as well as the bread maker.
lesik_l
Quote: Rina72

For example, I don't like buckwheat to soak in water for a long time, so I can't leave the porridge for a delay. And if I turn on the preparation of porridge right before leaving, then it will be auto-warmed up, probably until my arrival, that is, it will dry out a lot.

Try to cook buckwheat the way my mother taught me: Leave it overnight in a cartoon (it used to be a cauldron) by pouring water 1.5 fingers above the cereal level and adding salt. And set the timer to boil for 5 minutes - this will be enough (or what mode you have with the minimum cooking time).At the end of cooking, add sl. butter and stir. The porridge will turn out well crumbly and very tasty.
Rina
Thanks for the advice. But here the nuances of taste begin
For example, I always felt when my father poured cereals into cold water and put the saucepan on the fire (here the cereals were not even wet).
And the cereal, which has lain in the water for several hours ... (where is the smiley face with the tongue sticking out here? Brrrr ...)

Quote: gypsy

The easiest way to make buckwheat porridge is to pour buckwheat with cold water and leave for several hours
gypsy, I just had breakfast!
(where are many, many emoji with sticking out tongue?)

Quote: lesik_l

Try that you feel sorry for a glass of buckwheat?
no pity. I'll try in a day or two (I have already cooked a portion for the children, I won't feed them with buckwheat every day)
IRR
Girls and boys! Since this topic is about choice, I will show what I now have, and then I will go to a professional topic. Maybe someone will be interested, because this is also a multi-device (so, at least, it is written on it)

Choosing a slow cooker, rice cooker (1) Choosing a slow cooker, rice cooker (1) Choosing a slow cooker, rice cooker (1)

You can find and touch this casserole in Comfi, made in China for a holding in France SEB Group, an official representative and importer of Russia (there is an address and telephone number). The instruction is so-so, and the recipe book is wonderful more than 100 pages with pictures

Pressure cooker with multicooker functions (there are roasting, baking and stewing). Issue price 200 USD e. (1599)
Luysia
IRR, I can't say anything ..... (this animal strangled)
Choosing a slow cooker, rice cooker (1)
Luysia
IRR, write the name of your new saucepan (in full).

Have you bought it at Comfi?

Santa Claus, apparently, did not go from Kamchatka, but from the Crimea, and when he got to central Ukraine, he only had small things in his bag (perfumery, cosmetics, tiny bowls for snacks, Sheridans liqueur, sweets), since. he got rid of everything specifically heavy earlier.
IRR
Quote: Luysia

IRR, write the name of your new saucepan (in full).

Have you bought it at Comfi?
I bought it in Komfi (we have 3 of them), and we brought several pieces to each for testing. I took the penultimate out of 10. Apparently, the people, before NG, grinded everything up. On the box it says only NEW (in the box in the information certificate leaflet) it says Multicooker electric Moulinex Series ЕРСххх (models CE4xxx xx). I also have 6 liters on the box, but swing that you can pour 4. (according to the picture).
Quote: Luysia

IRR,

Santa Claus, apparently, did not come from Kamchatka, but from the Crimea, and when he got to central Ukraine, he only had small things in his bag (perfumery, cosmetics, tiny bowls for snacks, Sherida liqueur
But there was no need to waste money on trifles (I had a cumulative system of bonuses, since my birthday):
julifera
Along the way, the full name of this model of pressure cooker:

Moulinex Minut'Cook
Choosing a slow cooker, rice cooker (1)
LiudmiLka
There are not only bread makers with the scary word Mulinex, but also not scary combines, for example. I hope that pressure cookers are no worse than combines. But where are they made?
IRR
julifera, yeah! My. This Minute Cook is mentioned many times in the instructions.

Lyudmilka, I already wrote there, China is her homeland (I have a juicer mule ... nicho so t. t. t.) Lottery however
IRR
Quote: sazalexter

but there is very little information.
Sasha, as a specialist, I can tell you that the certificate of certification says that it meets the requirements for GOST 2006 and 2008. Some sections 4.5, 6, 7. (The validity period of the certification is from 09/10/2010 to 09/09/2013 (if you are given such an i-nfa shoto). There is also the phone number and address of the official representative and importer in Russia (you, in Moscow). really

URRRA !!! I am 5 loaves of bread - natryndela 3 thousand. All. I went to work
sazalexter
Quote: IRR


URRRA !!! I am 5 loaves of bread - natryndela 3 thousand. All. I went to work
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