Masinen
I do not understand why change something when there is an adapter included.

What's wrong with the adapter? It does not in any way affect the operation of the attachments, what is with it, what to put on the line.

The attachments are all the same and differ only in the input

I don't see a problem, honestly
Neo
Masinen, I can't use it. I either lack strength, or mind, or he is defective. My nozzles do not fit into it ..
I'll go to the store and ask to show you how to use it. If the case turns out to be a marriage of the adapter, then I'll start with the exchange of the adapter, and then we'll see.
Masinen
Neo, ahhh, that's the thing.
There is a screw in the photo of the adapter, did you unscrew it?
Neo
Yes, of course she turned it away. I wrote above, it's not about him. The nozzles enter the adapter with great difficulty. By some miracle, I managed to shove the meat grinder, then I barely pulled it out, I did not dare to connect it to the car. And the part does not rise at all from the cube cutter, it just does not fit. Once I pushed it to some depth (but mm 5-7 was not fully inserted, then I barely pulled it out for half an hour, probably fought. As a result, there was already metal dust in my hands after pulling it out .. It definitely shouldn't be so ...
lou
Neo, I have 2 kmix machines (the same input from sens) and chef, and 2 adapters. Well, prefabricated nozzles from both machines. So, both adapters fit perfectly, no problem. When I use attachments, there is no difference that they are not native. If inserted correctly, then there may be a marriage.
They are inserted as if gently, effortlessly.
Neo
Well, I would understand correctly or not ...

Lou, please tell us how you insert - the nozzle into the adapter, then all together into the car. Or do you put the adapter on the car, and then the attachments on it?
And yet - you do as in the video above - when the machine is turned on, they put a meat grinder and it itself is drawn into the car? (I'm scared to even try this)
lou
NeoFirst, I unscrew the screw on the adapter very well, almost completely, then I look at the location of the groove on the machine, adjust the protrusion on the adapter to the same position and insert the adapter. Then the nozzle, I turn it to the desired position, tighten the screw well. I insert the nozzle without turning on the machine, somehow it is inserted well by itself.
Did you unscrew the screw well, almost completely?
Neo
I pulled it out to be sure (screw),
I inserted the adapter into the car, everything is ok.
Then I insert the nozzle into the adapter. There, inside the adapter, there is such a side, that is, the neck of the adapter is of the same width, and inside after a few mm it becomes narrower. And here, where I already have a nozzle just does not fit ...
Twig
Neo, once again I recommend that you go to mvideo with your adapter, the boys will check if something is really wrong with it, replace it and you will be happy, you will use it with pleasure.
Neo
Twig, yes, I will. I'm just in the area with a baby, so on Friday we'll go and come in of course ..
lou
Neo, I didn't understand something about the protrusions, maybe I'll make a video later


Added Wednesday 01 Feb 2017 11:00

Neo, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I described to you how I insert on the chef. On the sense, of course, differently. I put on the adapter and see the alignment of the groove on the adapter and the "bumps on the nozzle", then insert the nozzle. My nozzle is also inserted with a freedom gap, that is, without effort. And that ledge about which you speak does not bother me at all.


Added Wednesday 01 Feb 2017 11:19 am

NeoI took it off as best I could
Neo
Thank you so much! Well, I’m not at all fit, not just free, but in general nothing ...

Guys, I don't know what's wrong with me, or with my car or attachments ... But now I have another adventure ..
I think until I figured out with the adapter I will try another drive .. I got the AT340 nozzle (vegetable cutter)
I think this is a top drive attachment, everything should be ok. As a result, I can't install it either! More precisely, it gets up, but with great effort and does not screw in completely (that is, it remains as if at an angle to the machine). At the same time, it works, but can it be used? I watched the video reviews - there all the attachments are inserted into the cars without visible effort .. Well, I can't be so weak? Then what is it..
I showed the adapter to my husband, he agreed that the attachments were not inserted, let's go to the store. And about this attachment, now I'm afraid to stutter while waiting for questions if anything in my purchase is okay
I don't know anymore, go to the store with all the good? It's a whole trunk ...
lou
If everything goes like this, you need to go with all the good and work out all the attachments. Do not be discouraged, because everything can be corrected.
proshka
Neo, I think you are just confused. Calm down and try again. I'm sure everything will work out. I myself sometimes fall into a stupor when it doesn't work out, but everything turns out to be simple.
Neo
Blender got up! :))))) Hurray! At least something :)) But now I can't make it out, I don't have enough strength to unscrew the bottom of the flask :)) I'm thinking, maybe this will all work out, maybe they are too tight because new ones?

But to master the unit is now a matter of honor :)) In the end, I somehow mastered the car :)))
proshka
Neo, blender and I'm a little tight. This is correct, because it is all collapsible and so that there are no leaks during operation. Someone here, in my opinion, was so - the blender was not tightly twisted and the liquid from it leaked into the motor. I don’t remember how it ended, but I’m watching now.
Neo
AT320A works too :)) It went well :))) Very cool multifunctional attachment by the way, albeit small :)
zvezda
Valeria!!! Congratulations on your purchase !!!!
You see ... it's already started !!!! : yahoo: You won't believe it ... though I have almost the oldest machine, but so far I have learned to insert a food processor .... and time has passed to the low-speed socket of the attachment !!! And two months ago, well, I can't put in a meat grinder .. well, at least beat your forehead: girl_cray: I suffered for almost an hour .... and only after probably a pack of cigarettes I sat down in front of her and just almost cry ... and then it comes to me .. .. the pimp at the bottom just didn't push it away !!!!!
So don't worry !!! Everything will work out !!! Rub
Neo
zvezda, Olga, thank you!
By the will of circumstances, I can only act with the help of a forum and such a mother I can’t smoke the problem, because I don’t smoke in life, and breastfeeding doesn’t allow For the latter, by the way, I write off my curliness, apparently all the same it also affects the acuteness of thought: ))
With a typewriter, we will of course, we will not go anywhere. It's just like in the movie - "I want you to want me" - I expected that the relationship would develop unconditionally immediately and without my efforts ...
zvezda
Valeria, You will begin to suffer ... beacons !!! I will smoke for you 🔗
Neo
Mersey
LenaPena)
Good day! Take into your ranks))) Parents gave 096 kenwood for the birth of their daughter; now I walk around him and just look ... big and proud standing on the windowsill))) I don’t know what to cook .. I have a strict diet due to feeding, for my husband a full refrigerator of food, there is still a cake and half of the pie, so I'm waiting for when eat sweets, I want to try a biscuit)))
I was looking for recipes, and came across such a photo .. new cooking chef))) I can not insert a link, the Ukrainian group Kenwood is on Facebook, they have this photo on their home page, they write it is expected from April 2017.
Olga VB
Elena, congratulations on the birth of my daughter, a wonderful gift and the first message on the forum!
How long did you sit in the bushes

Throw me in a personal link (inactive), I'll post it in the topic.
And you can't yet, because you are not an active forum member yet. If you earn a loaf, it will be possible.

LenaPena)
For a long time)) I chose a bread maker, bought a bork, a slow cooker, bought a shte, I dig all sorts of recipes here, and I admire the girls !!! what all the hostesses! And I only dreamed about 096 in my pillow, as a lot of mortgage loans ... well, my mother somehow sighed with a dreamy face ... but did not even expect such a turn of events)))) my husband is horrified, we have a kitchen of 5 m2, the thermomix had to be cleaned in the closet, otherwise they don't fit all at once (by the way, I thought to take it for 2 years or not, and thanks to the website, the bread maker, I decided! True used, but for 15,000, and it looks new, even the bowl as soon as it is out of the package)) here))
Sedne
Quote: LenaPena)
I have a tough diet in connection with feeding, for my husband a full refrigerator of food, there is still a cake and half of the pie, so I'm waiting for the sweet thing, I want to try the biscuit)))
With my diet and my husband on a diet planted not honestly, he eats what he wants, and I sit and chew buckwheat, feeding the child I congratulate both daughters and induction.
LenaPena)
Thank you for the congratulations))) My resists buckwheat))) Well, not starving him?
Neo
Some kind of meeting place for nursing mothers
I'm kidding - a girl's best friends are diamonds, and a mother's best friends are home helpers. Until the appearance of the third baby, I did not even think about the km (more precisely, I thought about the key - what crazy people or oligarchs spend such amounts on household appliances)
However, the need forced to reconsider
LenaPena)
Yeah)))
I haven’t come across this forum yet, I haven’t really thought about the technique at all))) And then the soul rushed ..., fortunately, the limitation of space in the kitchen restrains Wishlist))
Ipatiya
Quote: LenaPena)
I was looking for recipes, and came across such a photo .. new cooking chef))) I can not insert a link, the Ukrainian group Kenwood is on Facebook, they have this photo on their home page, they write it is expected from April 2017.

I was interested in the novelty. Found here

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Olga VB
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It is interesting that it will contain new functionality
kseniya D
Quote: Olga VB
It is interesting that it will contain new functionality
Very interesting too! It was straightforward, what did they add to the window there? Lights on the speed wheel, and probably the main socket (as in the latest models). But what's in the window?
Belka13
Beautiful model Most likely, there was still some kind of modernization. Otherwise, the old induction would not have been sold, I think.
Twig
Most likely, all functions - timer, temperature setting, have become sensory, which is not always convenient, hands are often wet or dirty when cooking.
I'm wondering if they came up with a shutdown button on the case or not? Still offer to pull the socket?
Pancho
Heating up to 180 °, touch buttons above the top round. The extreme right - for choosing a mode (like "Risotto", "Charlotte", etc.). If at the same time she automatically sets the required temperature and speed, then it seems convenient to me - no need to remember or go into your recipe book.
Well, the backlight with control rings is different, yes.
Googled via kenwood cooking chef gourmet. The French have all the specifications already laid out. Can't insert a link, I need kenwoodworldptchkcom / fr-fr
And even for sale. For 1300 euros
Peter Push
The new one is called Cooking Chef Gourmet KCC9063S. All changes are predictable: removed the medium-speed socket, made the backlight; and unexpected: touch display, new dough hook and stirring attachment, complete as 096 + scales,
🔗
🔗

eye
180 celsius! now both wok and fryer)))

Olga VB
They position it as a robot, that is, already a semiautomatic device. Considered a hybrid of the previous cooking and thermomix:
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Here's what the auto-translator writes:
Discover the new robot cooker Cooking Chef Gourmet. Finally, the robot, the stove is multifunctional, precise, ultra versatile thanks to the induction of cooking (up to 180 ° C. High temperature allows you to increase the selection of recipes, all in favor of cooking faster, healthier, more taste!

Simple and intuitive, just choose a program. Robot Cooking Gourmet Chef, baked temperatures accurately and consistently, mix at regular intervals, and stop when the preparation is ready!
180 ° C, MORE TASTE AND HEALTHY KITCHEN
Introduce meat, fish or vegetables while preserving their taste: this is what allows 180 ° C
The rise in temperature is powerful, sublime in taste and limits the absorption of fat. From 180 ° C, you can also reach tempura, make caramel or popcorn.

STRENGTHS

24 PROGRAMS, VARIETY OF RECIPES, ON ORDER
Robot cooker, Cooking Chef Gourmet offers 24 programs that allow you to cook a large number of recipes: casseroles, risottos, soups and a number of sauces: béchamel, hollandaise, classic ... They also include preparations, caramel, custard, chocolate sauce or fruit paste.
The time savings are priceless and the recipes are perfectly executed.

BEST CONFECTIONER ROBOT COMPLETE TO REALIZE EVERYTHING
With a planetary motion, at a speed, ideal for a set of pastries, you can grasp bread, rolls, whipped cream, meringues ...
The combination of baking and pastry, allows the robot to beat and uniformly mix all kinds of pasta, connect white snow or make meringues, jam or caramel!

ROBOT MULTIFUNCTIONAL ULTRA UNIVERSAL AND SCALABLE, CUT OR GRIND
Equipped with 6 discs and a knife, the multifunctional bowl allows you to cut vegetables, carrots or fried potatoes.
With different sizes of discs, grate, we get: grated cheese or chocolate very finely. The knife allows you to make thin, fillings, mayonnaise, chop nuts or crush bread.

ACCESSORIES INCLUDED

13 accessories: whisk ball, drummer K, new bede, bowl multifunctional knife and 6 discs, bowl large capacity, electronic scales, two spatulas, below the bowl, thermoresist blender, new mixer, soft mixer, shopping basket, sauna ...
+ New recipe book

For more information on accessories compatible with this model, you can check the Cooking Chef Gourmet FAQs.
Total volume - 6.7 liters

The pictures show a new hook:
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and an incomprehensible zyuka, probably something between a mixer and a flexible attachment
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Pancho
Yes, in other photos I saw now that the hook is now like the others - just chopped off. Kichen and Bosch twist like this and nothing. And the recipe book for Gourmet is included.
An incomprehensible squiggle, probably for a wok? Something that won't melt in hot oil and scratch the bottom.
Zhanik
Quote: Neo
Some kind of meeting place for nursing mothers

Hello! and I am with you
and yes! Kesha helps out sooooo when the baby is in the house))
and the brand new handsome It will probably cost like a Boeing
Pancho
In France, you can already take 1300
Zhanik
Quote: Pancho

In France, you can already take 1300

interesting, and the old nozzles fit him? Do not know?
This is a purely sporting interest. I have, for example, 086 for 4 years already ... Sometimes I think with horror, and if it suddenly gets covered with a copper basin, then what to do?
Peter Push
Quote: Zhanik
Interestingly, will the old nozzles fit him? Do not know?
Zhanik, they will do, they separately recommend the AT512 sensitive mixer (souffleika) and the AT320 mini-mixer and the AT957 ice cream maker, but the KAN947 food processor, because on the fast-speed socket.
Quote: Zhanik
For example, I have had 086 for 4 years ...
So you have another year of guarantee !! The new one has a 3-year warranty.
Zhanik
Quote: Peter Push
So you have another year of guarantee !!
no, alas, they began to give a 5-year guarantee later
Peter Push
Quote: Olga VB
and an incomprehensible zyuka, probably something between a mixer and a flexible attachment
The mixer is suitable when using the cooking function. It has been specially designed to follow the contours of the bowl. Ideal for roasting. also suitable for risottos, sauces and melting chocolate
Quote: Olga VB
new hook
Inspired by professional bakeries, spiral problem kneads the dough quickly and effortlessly to make it as smooth and supple as possible. It can be used for many yeast dough recipes like breads, lesbrioches, donuts, pizza dough, etc.
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Everyone from their site
eye
Quote: Peter Push
spiral problem
Air
New Kenwood is simply handsome!
Interestingly, is the low-speed socket there the same as in 096 or hex like in Sens?
Miranda
LenaPena), congratulations on your gift!

And thanks for the interesting news

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How late I got into the topic, almost before bedtime, but here it turns out!

Handsome!
But I haven't worn out mine yet, and the road at the start will be with us, 1300 is 85 thousand, but it will be 100. So it's better to look at only theoretically. But, damn it, I so want to shake him.
***
Googled immediately, you know I'm meticulous
And that's what it seems that I could see.

1. The pin is round there. It seems so to me. And you?
It would be great if round!

I found a girl, the happy owner of a new Cooking, she has two videos on YouTube - unpacking and the first cooking of profiteroles.They are under the spoiler.



Unpacking


First cooking.


I made a screen of her video - the pin is round, right?

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And here are some screenshots of the pin from another video, I'll put it under the spoiler.



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By nozzles.
They are all on the French page
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Hook
In the video, a hook is shown under the second spoiler.
Here are the screenshots and it seems to me that the hook is familiar.

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But the page says it's new. But in the video about the new car, the old hook was removed, then it was as if the pin was round. Or they admit two versions of the hook It is not clear why the new one was not removed in the video.

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Mixer.
New.

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It is written that you can use simultaneously with hook, whisk, flexi for the best result. Not clear yet, but interesting

Probably, they fix it in that second hole, and then it can be done at the same time. And there is a pin for the old stirrer. The picture is under the spoiler, because repeat.

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Of all the new, I liked most of all this thing - at the same time k-shaped and this mackerel - then a small amount (for example, butter) will beat perfectly, since the mackerel will be collected from the walls and thrown into the center. Cool if so!
Incomprehensible thing

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Google Translate: The Easy Blend Clamp is specially designed to help blend the ingredients In The bowl, the clip is clipped directly onto the Cooking Chef bowl.
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By nests.
As expected, there is no medium speed, the high speed is the same.
But according to the low-speed socket, the feeling is as before, and not as in Sense.

The French have a separate website for the Cookings line
🔗

There is both current and new, and it is written that accessories for both, and the whole list is presented - 🔗

It is logical if Cookings are compatible, but so far only assumptions, it will be necessary to google, look, etc. Maybe they mean adapters, and then a hexagon. I think we'll find out soon.
By the way, have you noticed that the lift button is still on the side, and not behind, like the Senses and the new Titans?
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Comparison

There, on the French site, there is a comparison of both cars in the form of a table - 🔗

I will give only the different points
(the first value of the new car, the second of the 80th and 90th series)

1. Power: 1500 W / 1100 W

2. Max. temperature: 180 ° C / 140 ° C

3. Automatic programs: 24/0
(on a large display which, like in multicooker or something)

4. The number of cooking modes: 8/5
(I mean - steam, cook over low heat, etc., with a new one + fry, cook at a high temperature and I did not understand the third difference)

5. Scales must be included in the package of a new one, consider this a difference.

6. Maximum programming time: 8 hours / 3 hours

7. Intermittent speed: 9 options / 2 options
(this is that (2) and (3) speeds to the right, and the new one has 9 of them - google translation - 9 a mixture of programs to adapt the frequency of breaks depending on the recipe and fragile ingredients)

8. Warranty: 3 years + lifetime on the engine / 3 years
(This is an interesting point, Google translation translates so - Its engine has a lifetime warranty, which guarantees the quality and performance of the device.)

Everything else is the same - 1500 W motor, minimum and maximum rotational speed, physical dimensions, weight, bowl size, etc.

Further on the same page is a comparison in the form of a table with Thermomix, but this is for home reading

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The machine is nice, there is a lot of new things, but how fundamentally it is to wait for some reviews, tests. Well, the price will be cosmic at the start, of course.


Added Friday 03 Feb 2017 06:57

Found
The new agitator does indeed fit into the new hole.

I assume that it follows the whisk, hook, etc., or in front of them, which allows two nozzles to work simultaneously.

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A very cool idea, I would like at least some video to see how they work together.



Added Friday 03 Feb 2017 07:00

And, by the way, the new car has no backlight.

Probably because of the steam from cooking and the protective cover from it. Not combined.
Peter Push
Quote: Miranda
But on the low-speed socket, the feeling that as before, and not as in Sense
Miranda, and yet, as in Sense, nozzles are a cube KAH400PL, a meat grinder KAH950ME, there is also an adapter KAT002EM.
Albinka (Alya)
Girls, please tell me the choice! How we settled here on the forum, of course I wanted a kitchen machine, I read a lot here and decided that only Kenya was needed. But I just can't decide on the model, the large bowl is not particularly suitable, there is nowhere to accelerate, and my husband is shouting, where else is this colossus! I am now carried away by confectionery and plan to make custom-made cakes in the future, but for these purposes I mostly take! I have a good meat grinder and blender, so I think to take it without attachments.
In general, I looked after 57002 and 5000 Sens, and I also think about 050. I wanted to order 050 on CU, but I'm even scared. So I'm going crazy with the choice.
LisaNeAlisa
Albina, if to order, then a large bowl is better, but they are almost the same in size ...

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