Kenwood Kitchen Machines

[zvezda]

I already have such a whisk ... I felt the difference ... but I insert from 023 to 096

zvezda, and which is better - thinner, but more often or thicker, but less often? Which side is the difference? zvezda, pliz, the verdict in the studio))

There is just thinner and less often or thicker and more often
Someone does not see the difference, but someone praises one of them.
In general, all this is described in the topic about the attachments and, accordingly, these questions should be asked there if you did not find the answers yourself
Therefore, brothers, move there with a discussion of the corollas, and here I will clean up all these discussions, do not blame me

I was in Mediamarkt just now, there was an action with attachments. Moreover, for 6 nozzles they give sense with a small bowl. Earlier they gave for 3.

But I'm not talking about that.
She turned the bowl in her hands. Lord, after a large bowl, it is so small, and yet 4.6 liters! I even checked it at home, suddenly it was not 4.6 liters. Of course, there is also the effect of a huge store, where the walls and ceiling are not visible, and everything is huge. Well, the geometry is different in sensations - more in breadth than up.

Once again, she became firmly convinced that a large bowl is not as scary as it seems.

[Miranda]

Miranda, since they accidentally sent me a 4.6-liter bowl from CU, I turned it around in my hands and around the cache, thought to fit it. They are the same in width, just 4.6 shorter. I agree that it looks next to a very big baby.
Today, gingerbread cookies were baked for 1.3 kg of flour, of which 500 grams each rye and wheat and 300 whole grain. From the little one everything would run away.

[LisaNeAlisa]

LisaNeAlisa, and what kind of recipe?

[LisaNeAlisa]

LisaNeAlisa, and what kind of recipe?

Recipe for soft gingerbread cookies that you need to bake right away. (Sahara)


Only I made a little change: I took different flour, replaced sugar with honey and took additional spices with nutmeg, allspice and half a vanilla pod. Instead of an orange peel, I put half a lemon and a small orange in it. In short, one concept remained from the recipe))))
In general, kesha did a great job today: the mini-chopper ground the spices, then ground the lemon and orange, kneaded the dough in the bowl (it would have gone for a good strength training) and the dough sheeter rolled me thin ribbons (another workout, if you roll it with your hands), from which I cut the gingerbread.

[LisaNeAlisa]

LisaNeAlisa, Thank you

Did you grind lemon and orange without the skin?
Gingerbread dough rolling? There's so much fat in there! I am thinking of making a napaleon, but rolling (I have a manual rolling), I think, can be on it.

Mine is also working today.
I ground the coffee, made an apple pie (I laid out the recipe), now there are still 10 minutes left to rise the bread, and I will transfer it to the mold. And also mashed potatoes.

And it’s like I’m sick, I’m sleeping badly and I would like to lie down. But with Kesha everything is somehow imperceptible and is done.

[Miranda]

Miranda, Napoleon did both on manual and on cash, there were no problems. I bought a thin brush and carefully pass it through all the cracks after rolling. And here and there the dough is dense, it does not stick to the details. But how convenient!

Added Sunday 11 Dec 2016 7:51 PM

Miranda, get well soon!

I didn’t find a topic about attachments: girl_cray1: generally thin nra more !!! Maybe I'll get used to that

[Olga]

Olga, you need to look in the branch, - in the header you go to the previous level and there all Keshin topics it is seen.
About nozzles.
Good luck!

Olya !!! you ......: girl_love: thanks .....

Good day to all. Can you please tell me if anyone had this? Yesterday they ground the meat, suddenly the kesha was outraged and stopped grinding, they began to look at what was the matter, it turned out that one part of the groove broke off, into which the meat grinder is inserted and scrolls it.In general, I am in such an out, we used a meat grinder on our fingers, you can count how many times. Kesha is not even a year old. What kind of equipment to buy, if this one is already breaking down.

[olgea]

olgea, not a fig for myself ... and what kind of cache?

[LisaNeAlisa]

LisaNeAlisa, Anita, I don't remember, 570 or something, tonight I will look for documents for him.

Yesterday they ground the meat, suddenly the kesha was outraged and stopped grinding, they began to look at what was the matter, it turned out that one part of the groove broke off, into which the meat grinder is inserted and scrolls it.

Most likely a defect in the metal casting. Hardly anyone met. Well, a very rare case in general in any technique, regardless of brand.
But about "suddenly" it is better not. They won't believe it. And including me. Out of the blue, such things do not happen. There must be a serious increase in the load on the node. Better to be honest, say, a piece of bone stuck or something like that.

There was no piece of bone, there was beef tenderloin, the husband's parents killed the bull. They gave a clipping.

There was no piece of bone, there was beef tenderloin, the husband's parents killed the bull. They gave a clipping.

It's strange.
Metellus is a metal, but still, for this to happen, there must be at least some kind of transient mode in the form of an increase in the load.
Okay, service anyway. Even when jammed, the engine should burn, and not break the socket.

Tomorrow we'll take you to the service, I'll tell you later what they said, whether it will be a warranty case or not.

[olgea]

olgea, good luck! Be sure to unsubscribe what you said and how you justified what was said.

[LisaNeAlisa]

LisaNeAlisaThank you, I hope she will be on our side.

So, a little more than a month of operation of the induction and already the first breakdown. The seal between the housing and the gearbox has broken. He was simply cut in this opening, since the gearbox is mounted on pillows relative to the body and has some freedom inside. I don't even know what to do. In the SC to carry?
Another question to Pavel, did you not pay attention to the color of the grease in the gearbox? It came out in the place of attachment of the nozzle (from the side of the bowl) in black.

Well, here's my biscuit for 5 eggs, Kesha did it! (Form 24x36)

In the SC to carry?

Definitely. A machine that I have been dissecting for over 5 years. And everything is whole.

Another question to Pavel, did you not pay attention to the color of the grease in the gearbox? It came out in the place of attachment of the nozzle (from the side of the bowl) in black.

In the gearbox, it is, of course, dark.
But what came out quite understandably will be dark. For until the friction pairs have gotten used, and in the zone of their contact, the lubricant will always be dark.
Although it should not squeeze out the grease in this place.

[Paul I]

Paul I, but this gum (on your photo of the disassembly, which is called "Reducer in the shot") can really be removed by stretching from the gear down? Can't tell?

[Paul I]

Paul I, but this gum (on your photo of the disassembly, which is called "Reducer in the shot") can really be removed by stretching from the gear down? Can't tell?

Without removing the gearbox?
Well, if you sprinkle oil in the gap, it is quite possible, if it is still elastic. This is theoretically, but practically unlikely. May tear.
But why would you do that?
You need a service.

[Sergey01]

Sergey01how disappointing.
But it looks like a marriage. Because there have not yet been such breakdowns, many have a car for some years.

The seal between the housing and the gearbox has broken.

Something I can't figure out where it is.
Is it over the bowl? Or in the part that reclines?

By the way, go and find the messages with my disassembly now ... It's practically impossible.
in place of the moderators would have long ago placed all this stuff at the beginning of the topic, so as not to search.
You never know who else will need ...

Well, here is my biscuit for 5 eggs

I thought at first - not very tall, representing a standard circle.
But such a large rectangle is cool.

Something I can't figure out where it is.
Is it over the bowl? Or in the part that reclines?

This is the sealing gum between the gearbox and the housing.
This is above the bowl and "in the part that reclines," if I understood correctly.

[olgea]

This is above the bowl and "in the part that reclines," if I understood correctly.

Yes that's right. I have already found the explosion diagram and the part code. True, I cannot post links yet, but many machines have such schemes, even parsing guides, including the gearbox. By the way, all the parts inside the gearbox have codes, they can be changed separately, including the meat grinder mounting socket (low-speed), which broke at olgea. Therefore, if this case is not recognized as a guarantee and nothing can be done about it, then there will be no need to change the gearbox for 10-15 thousand. The shaft is also not cheap - 3000 r, but this is a completely different order of prices.

olgea, if the case is recognized as out of warranty, do not rush to change the gearbox. Throw off the name of the car.

Without removing the gearbox?

With the removal, in another way, I think, nothing. I would have changed it myself without any problems, there are still no seals, but there will be a month in the SC, anyway. They will still scratch the whole thing while they drag it back and forth (Unfortunately, experience. It is much easier to do it yourself in 15 minutes than how much time to spend, and even nerves. I repaired a lot of equipment myself, even under warranty. But this is my personal opinion.

And Paul's post with a disassembly on page 91.

Dear breadPechkinskypeki, need advice!
What is better to take 096 for 59990 or 086 for 47790 (Yulmart markdown, packaging is broken, the warranty is full, the device is intact, but it is written that there is a scratch on the metal element, I understand that in any case it is necessary to watch it alive. Apparently, the packaging was torn, here something and scratched)
While 086 is in reserve, I have to redeem it before the end of the day 14.12
So I think, does it make sense to take 096, if, when examining 086, this scratch is not critical?

Do I understand correctly that 47790 is about the same as the pre-crisis price for 086 Keshu
(I need this for my husband ... he doesn't know yet that I ordered another kitchen pribluda)

[IRRI]

in place of the moderators would have long ago posted all this stuff at the beginning of the topic,

Would you like to be a moderator? Easy: pick up links to important, from your point of view, messages, I will post them in the section of useful links. Links of 10 or more are accepted
IRRI, the machines are almost twins, they differ in the knives in the mixer and the additional mixer in it.
Decide for yourself whether it is worth overpaying for it? I would not
But, of course, you need to look carefully to make sure everything is in order.
Good luck!

[IRRI]

IRRI, as already answered above - it differs only in the details of the blender. The machine itself is zero-to-zero 96.

Check out YouTube unboxing videos - unboxing kenwood km086.
Since mostly foreign videos, do not look at the accompanying documents, but how the parts are packed - yes. Steamer in a bowl, etc.

Although according to the documents - in addition to the warranty, there should be a white book of instructions, such a folder with a hard cover, there are several color thin books, a coupon for the book.

Collecting back in the same way is impossible. Although could disassemble check after the package is damaged. But we checked the machine, maybe with one attachment, the rest of the attachments should be packed as the manufacturer packed it.

But there are other signs of use as well.
It is possible to rub the bowl to a production gloss, but you must try hard. There should be a mini-book on the handle of the bowl on a chain. Under the lid, where the blender and processor sockets are around the sockets, if used, there are traces. The pins of the hook, K-shaped, rim, etc., from putting on and taking off have marks. I can't wash and rub the protective covers to their original gloss at home, it's just clean, but not so shiny.

Write down on a piece of paper the complete set, discs, nozzles, down to the brush and paddles. On the spot, you may be excited by the upcoming purchase and may not notice a trifle.

Turn on the car, try different speeds. Listen to the motor. The transition to 3ku can be with a slightly ragged sound.

If they let you check for heating, that's good too. But the protective cover must be put on the head of the car, without it it will not turn on, it will beep. A glass of water, degrees at maximum, mode (1). It should start to boil in 2-3 minutes.Do not forget to set the degrees back to zero later.

You can compare the numbers on the labels near the cord and on the bottom with the labels on the box.

If everything is ok, then incredible luck is simple, and not the price, congratulations!
A scratch on the case is nonsense. If really just a scratch. She can appear at home.

And buy a new blender knife and a stirring stick for sure cheaper than 12,200 if you want

Decide for yourself whether it is worth overpaying for it? I would not
But, of course, you need to look carefully to make sure everything is in order.
Good luck!

Thank you very much, so I'll stop at 086 for a delicious price

Added on Tuesday 13 Dec 2016 04:06

Check out YouTube unboxing videos - unboxing kenwood km086.
Write down on a piece of paper the complete set, discs, nozzles, down to the brush and paddles.
Turn on the car, try different speeds. Listen to the motor. The transition to 3ku can be with a slightly ragged sound.
If they let you check for heating, that's good too. But the protective cover must be put on the head of the car, without it it will not turn on, it will beep.
You can compare the numbers on the labels near the cord and on the bottom with the labels on the box.
And buy a new blender knife and a stirring stick for sure cheaper than 12,200 if you want

Wow! This is the instruction !!! I will do it all, thank you Miranda, thank you, thank you !!!
The water, of course, will not be allowed to boil, but I'll check everything else, now I'm fully armed
I didn't even count on such help

In general, we are now financially not the best time for such purchases, but as I saw this option, I caught fire directly. Kesha was in reserve, monitored for three days and did not buy it out, then I grabbed him, was happy like a child, and then I read here that now the action is on model 090 and got thoughtful ...
A miracle, not a forum, so I read different topics and grabbed something, behold, with discounts, successfully directly, and how miraculously I climbed into Yulmart discount, I don't know ... from the filing of some topic that someone is also something- then super cheap I bought there and that's such a good luck right away.

[IRRI]

IRRI, good luck
All the attachment parts hardly bother to rub to a shine, plus how packed - you will see and understand.

Although, Yulmart sometimes messes with the description of the markdown, but still 95% writes it as it is. And he never hides if there was a renovation. At least it was 3-5-7 years ago. I bought different things from them at a discount.

The price is even less than the pre-crisis one, a very steep price.

We are waiting for you with a story, and, hopefully, with a car

PS A coupon for a book is something like that, it may not be, I had it in a folder with books. I also bought at a markdown in Technosila the same, I understand your excitement. And I forgot to check the little things, then I remembered when the couriers left, but everything was in stock

Bring a male friend with you, the box is huge and heavy, approx. 30 kg. If by car, it can be carried in parts to the trunk.

Discuss financially with your husband, of course. I took a little more, although it was right next to it. But then the share was for 76 thousand 096, and not as now for 60 thousand, and I was spinning around it for a month, and then suddenly a markdown. But I wanted it so badly that I decided that this was my chance and did not hesitate. I do not regret a minute.

[olgea]

Yes that's right. I have already found the explosion diagram and the part code. True, I cannot post links yet, but many machines have such schemes, even parsing guides, including a gearbox. By the way, all the parts inside the gearbox have codes, they can be changed separately, including the meat grinder mounting socket (low-speed), which broke at olgea. Therefore, if this case is not recognized as a guarantee and nothing can be done about it, then there will be no need to change the gearbox for 10-15 thousand. The shaft is also not cheap - 3000 r, but this is a completely different order of prices.

olgea, if the case is recognized as out of warranty, do not rush to change the gearbox. Throw off the name of the car.

Sergey, I'll take a picture of the stamp in the evening and show which one. Thank you.

I have already found an explosion diagram

What is this scheme?

but for many machines there are such schemes, even parsing guides, including the gearbox

This is where it is, can I link to the LAN?

But this is my personal opinion.

The opinion is correct.

Added on Tuesday 13 Dec 2016 11:29 am

Would you like to be a moderator?

We swam, we know.
There is simply no time now. Four children occupy him with everything.
And put a link to the disassembly so that it is easy to find.
This is usually done in the topic header. If this engine does not allow this, you can also use a separate link. Just how to search for these links, that's the question?

What is this scheme?

This is a diagram on which all the details of the device are spaced out and signed. Such diagrams are very easy to read. As if everything from the explosion scattered, therefore, apparently, they called it))

This is where it is, can I link to the LAN?

Sent

[IRRI !!]

IRRI !!I understand that you have already bought in Yulmart ???

As if everything from the explosion scattered, therefore, apparently, they called it))

One familiar engineer was genuinely perplexed about where such a strange name came from, if in translation from English it sounds like "spaced view".)) Well, he is engaged in the translation of technical literature.

[zvezda]

zvezda, not yet, I'm waiting for my husband (I can't handle him myself because of the weight), now let's go to check, keep my fists, that everything will be all right

Added Wednesday 14 Dec 2016 02:49 AM

Thanks to everyone who helped! Especially Miranda
Took away today at night 086 Kesha in Yulmart
Perfectly packaged, it is clear that the packaging is original
One small scratch on top of about 3 mm and that's it, everything else is ideal.
But the kit is not complete, although there is not enough real nonsense: there is no disc and color books (apparently with recipes), from printed materials only a white manual in duplicate in different languages
And also there is no brush (brush?) In the instructions, for some reason it is not there either, so it's not entirely clear whether this brush should be included, but I saw it on the video unboxing kenwood km086 on YouTube
I suspect that it is just needed to clean the hard-to-reach places of Kesha, so it is easy to replace it with another brush

I'm so glad, so glad
True, while I'm afraid of him, it looks solid, I will endure it until the weekend (a very busy week, it will not be up to Kesha at all) and I will intensively study it using forum recipes!

[IRRI]

IRRI, Congratulations!
Let it work fine and for a long time!

The brush was supposed to be for cleaning the whisk.

The books are not with recipes, or rather there are - my first recipes, and they are on the disk. This is one book, the rest are about attachments in pictures. And something else, I haven't read them, I looked through them once.

YouTube has all of these basic recipes.
The link to the playlist is crooked, so under the spoiler

Successful acquaintance and friendship with him.

PS what did the husband say?

[brush]

First time about brush read it. I did not have.

This brush comes with a screw juicer. Actually, only for her and needed.

The brush is really not the most important thing. Not obligatory at all. But the manufacturer still puts it as a pleasant trifle. And to help those who wash by hand and not in the dishwasher.

No dishwasher will wash the sieve of the auger juicer after use.

Paul I, it is possible that it will not wash.
But the brush isn't just for her.

I also didn't have a brush. The first time I hear about him. I took 094 in its original packaging.
There were books and a disk. I haven't bothered to watch the disc for a year (!) Yet. And I just leafed through the books and never used them. Although one even specially for Cooking Chef by Johann Lafer

And I didn't have a brush at 096.

Oh, they stopped putting it in the 90th episode, or what?
I have 80, I was there. I was sure that everyone has him.

However, this is nonsense.
I used it twice, and then not in washing Kenwood parts

Miranda, I have an 80th series, probably only recently they began to put it, because I have not heard from anyone about the brushes.

Oh, something I am with this brush.
I don't even know if it should be or not, but I had it, and I saw it in unboxing on YouTube, decided that it was for everyone.

Well him. Not an important thing at all.

096 didn't seem to have a Yorkie. Means not needed

I had a brush in a box with a screw juicer.
But without it, the mentioned juicer practically cannot be washed in any way.
This is not just a brush, but a special shape.
However, maybe we are talking about different brushes ...

Pavel is right, there is a brush in the photo with a squeezer.

He came with the car!
Lied in a box with nozzles. I have, in all the videos of unboxing on YouTube.
For example, see

Link to the minute where the box is parsed. If you skip to 4.07, where everything is already laid out, it lies between the flexi elastic band and the stirrer attachment.
I took a screenshot for you, circled it in red.



Or another video.


And another screenshot



Or another video
And another screenshot, not very visible, near the spatula, with a wire.



In the 70th series, by the way, they also put a brush.
Link to the moment where they get it
Well, a screenshot



For a juicer, probably needed.
I don't have it, I can't say anything about it.

Well, I also say that talking about different brushes. This one is completely different, and it is quite possible that the manufacturer considered it completely optional.

There were books and a disk. I haven't bothered to watch the disc for a year (!) Yet. And I just leafed through the books and never used them. Although one even specially for Cooking Chef by Johann Lafer

I did not watch the disk either.
Rather, I saw these videos on YouTube more than once even before buying.

I leafed through the books on the first day, when I was still afraid to approach the car. They are advertising, beautiful, there are about a dozen basic recipes and explanations about the attachments. But who read the forum, the one in the circus does not laugh, those books are not needed.

But in the book of recipes, which was sent, I look. I haven't done anything exactly according to the recipe, but I check some processes with the suggested temperature / mode.

I am mastering the apparatus. Yes, solid, heavy, I have it permanently. And this is great. I even shred my salads every night. Very fast, convenient and beautiful. The quality and performance of the attachments and the machine are excellent. The attachments are easy to clean and can be easily removed.
One but on the processor is a disk for potato pancakes. What is this, sorry, bullshit! He does not rub at all, from the word at all. Rinsed and cleaned. Grated on a fine grater, it tastes good to me too))))) the rest - they do their job perfectly.
Meat grinder - while I'm getting used to it. I liked Boshik. The cache seems to be no worse, but has not yet penetrated. The fish fillet did not turn well. One piece was clean-skinned - wound on the shaft. And putting it on and off - a decent effort is needed. I train in general.
I miss the delicate plastic shoe a little. Habit.
The size of the nozzles amazes me every time. Interestingly, will they mix and beat two eggs too? Or just hardcore industrial scale?
In general, I use it in all directions. Today pancakes, or rather pancake dough, interfered)))))

Interestingly, will they also mix and beat two eggs?

And even one!
Here are two eggs in the recipe, beaten without separating

Mom's Apple Pie (Miranda)

[Miranda]

Mirandaoh thank you! And then I look at the nozzles Mukhina's work so big and don't believe it)))))

One but on the processor is a disk for potato pancakes. What is this, sorry, bullshit!

Natus, but I liked the disc. For me, this is very successful.
But I rarely use Ken now, so maybe I forgot a little.

[Rituslya]

Rituslya, Rituel, and he refused to rub the potatoes at all! But I didn’t begin to figure it out, in a hurry to shove it, evening, I want to eat, I left it for later. I can't believe it's badly done, Kenwood is))))), but I haven't figured it out yet. And so I use all the disks. Like.