Panasonic Bread Makers Problems and Breakdowns

Aygul, don't cry! You just had your baptism of fire today. My sawn-off mixer has been working properly for three years!

Are you worried that the blade is loose or the shaft itself?

It worries me that the shaft turns very easily.

spinning easily, this is normal ... the main thing is not to dangle from side to side (backlash) .. and if you turn the bucket over, there are no dark smudges on the shaft and skirt?

In my 254 model, after a year of almost daily work, the screw (or whatever you can call it) loosened, which holds the kneading spatula. At the very beginning, I could not even scroll it with my hands. And now it dangles so easily. This is how it should be, or you can twist it or clamp it somehow. Who has been using HP for more than a year - how is this screw doing with you? Thank you

My shaft rotates in the bearing very easily, HP is more than two years old

Thank you calmed down.

Aygul, don't cry! You just had your baptism of fire today. My sawn-off mixer has been working properly for three years!

Thank you. She carefully removed the shavings from the mixer, looked, looked at it, and put the bread down again. Result: no shavings were found in the bread, you can bake safely.

Help me please. I just read it from you, and now I registered to ask for help. I have a Panasonic SD-253, bought in 2005. Baking, baking and suddenly stopped, bricks went, but baked.
I have sinned on flour and yeast for a very long time. I changed all this, not once. Until I noticed once that when the dough was standing, the stove was cold, that is, the shades did not turn on at all. Kneading and baking takes place, but there is no rise.
It was in 2009. I stopped using the stove. But I accidentally went to your site, and I realized that I needed a service center.
They looked at the service center, said that something should be ordered and that's it. For two whole years they ordered something there, they answered the calls that they were waiting for a patch, etc. I believed, because other services did not undertake repairs at all. In general, they didn't make it to me,
But we got a new Panasonic service center, took the stove there. From there they called me, they said everything was ok - the stove was working in test mode. I come, they turned it on, in the test mode, the stove heats up, that is, it works for heating. I took it home yesterday, but the bread was never baked. the same brick.
Now I called the service center to offer to replace the board and the temperature sensor.
Who has these ovens or who knows this will help? Can still go for a new one?

I tell you what happened next.
After reading your forum, I decided to cheat the stove. During the proofing of the dough, I began to take out the bucket and apply ice to the temperature sensor so that it would turn on the shades for heating. So I got the first bread, then the second, then the third ... And now I bake the fourth one and hear a click, that is, the shadows began to turn on themselves. Hooray the stove started working by itself in automatic mode !!! In general, she works herself.
My question is: what did you do in the service ??? !!! and why did she work again ??? Maybe someone knows?
But I am very pleased, because the home people really miss bread !!!!

[irena]

irena Congratulations! you still persuaded her! we can only assume that your stove had some kind of defect ... maybe something was overheating next to the temperature sensor ... but now, when it more or less worked for you, it stopped .. and you did not change the place at the stove ? maybe something was badly soldered, some kind of non-contact or a physical defect that was eliminated .. what they do in services, only they know ... the main thing is that it works and you know how to treat it!
Happy bread!

People! The problem is this:
Our bread maker is already 3 years old. At first it worked normally. And for six months the bread does not rise. Flour is often visible on the sides of the roll. Very dense crust, the top is sunken. For a complete understanding of the process, we took the same bakery from friends. With the same ingredients in their Panas (a one-year-old device), they made bread, everything worked out as if by notes, and rose, both light and tasty. We changed the buckets between the bread makers, and put bread baking in 2 ovens at once. And they noticed that at first the ovens worked the same way, then at t = 3.17 the "normal" one began to knead the dough, our "abnormal" one did not interfere, but only hummed. Then they worked the same way again. Result: in "normal" with a bucket of "abnormal" bread is good, in "abnormal" - again worthless. Conclusion: the buckets have nothing to do with it. It seems that in our - "abnormal" program somehow does not work properly. Are there any solutions for rebooting the program in the device? Like resetting everything to factory settings? Or did the kirdyk come to her after 3 years? If it’s kirdyk, then the Japanese assistant didn’t do much ... Help anyone with any advice, please!

Look here on the site there was something about testing HP Panasonic.
I found a link https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=92766.0
Maybe it will help.

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I got a knock after 1 month of work, but my knock comes from the bucket, I open and hold the bucket and the knock disappears, how so?

[vik_mark]

vik_mark, I never wore my stove in the SC. I also thought about the bucket, and tried to hold it while working, but this did not affect. That is, I concluded that it was not from the bucket.

I bake on the timer, and began to wake up from the fact that Panas, during kneading, knocks with a frequency of about 2 times a second, and loudly. It turns out continuous knocking throughout the batch.
I have just specially set to bake bread, and began to check what could cause such a knock. I never did. The bucket sits tightly, has held the handle of the bucket - it is not she who knocks. For some reason, it seems that the sound comes from where the scapula sits.

I had this before the bread maker stopped working.
I took it apart completely. It turned out that the bearing had worn out. It looks something like this (see link)
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This defect first manifested itself in knocking. At night, it became impossible to bake - loudly and methodically. The feeling of knocking on doors ... you almost go to open
Then the stove, after turning on, began to turn the kneading knife. And the motor buzzed - that is, the motor is working. Disassembled. At first I thought that the belt just fell off, although the bread maker was not turned in different directions. And then, until victorious, she removed the retaining ring (fixing) and took out the bearing. And I saw that it was erased.
I assume that the knock was caused by misalignment. In any case, to disassemble and reassemble - business that .. The stove was not under warranty, which gave me freedom of action. I didn't think to take a picture then ..
reason for editing: active links to external resources are prohibited!

great, I have HP not so long ago, and already have such problems, I will call the service while the warranty is valid

great, I have HP not so long ago, and already have such problems, I will call the service while the warranty is valid

Check the bucket in the HP socket is loose? If so, then it knocks, it is treated by making a gasket between the bucket and the socket of the HPY installation, look at the forum for 254/255 models

Panasonic 255 since 2008. The mixing power dropped, changed the capacitor, as described above, everything worked. There was no similar one in the store, put K78-36 3mkf 450v (50 rubles)

Very useful information! So 3μF is enough

Good day!!! I bought this wonderful oven! And after the first kolobok I got soot on the spiral, apparently, milk accidentally dripped when I added it to the batch ... I sit and think now what to do? Can it be washed and will it affect the use of the stove?

Good day!!! I bought this wonderful oven! And after the first kolobok I got soot on the spiral, apparently, milk accidentally dripped when I added it to the batch ... I sit and think now what to do? Can it be washed and will it affect the use of the stove?

Wipe with a damp cloth, after unplugging from the mains and don't worry, use on

Wipe with a damp cloth, after unplugging from the mains and do not worry, use on

Thanks for the answer!!! I tried to wipe it, only a little brown remained on the white part and a little inside, I don’t know how to wipe it ((is it okay? And that’s so offensive - a brand new

[Xu05]

Xu05 You should have seen what color I have for 2 years of work, I don't keep it for the exhibition, for work

[Xu05]

Xu05 You should have seen what color I have for 2 years of work, I don't keep it for the exhibition, for work

Oh thank you!!! You calmed me down)

So, I decided to arrange a rehearsal of the cake before Easter ... I carefully loaded everything into a bucket, carefully put raisins and nuts into the dispenser, trying not to put pressure on it so that it would not open ... Without breathing, I began to close the Panasonic lid (I have 2501) , and all this wealth has safely collapsed into flour. I feel that the cake will be excellent. Very disappointing. There is only one hope for my husband that he will come home from work in the evening and save me by correcting the dispenser, as they have already done here .... Well, why don't the manufacturers immediately do the right thing, huh? .. otherwise from such unexpected "surprises "heart attack can happen

skyrainbow, maybe nothing bad will happen. I also have 2501, but I have never used the raisin dispenser yet. I sprinkle it directly into the flour on top of everything. Because for 4 or 5 months I have been baking only French (from those recipes that I tried to bake, I liked it the most), but there is no raisin in his recipe. And I really wanted to try French with raisins.
True, I put raisins much less than in the cake recipe (50-60 gr). I just fall asleep just before kneading, so that it does not get too wet and the spatula does not grind it into small pieces. This sometimes happens with red raisins (they are larger and softer). I almost always put both red and yellow. Yellow is almost always intact.
I think that this does not stop those who do not have a dispenser in their HP if they want to bake something with raisins.

[2501]

Ladies and gentlemen, please tell me, the notorious problem of the starting capacitor concerns this Panasonic SD stove.2501WTS? Or has the problem already been solved by the manufacturer? (another conder, another connection diagram)

This is not a notorious problem, but just one more confirmation that there are exceptions to any rule.

As well as confirming that any overstepping of normal (normal) use is fraught with ... I suspect that problems with the capacitor appeared in my oven due to my fault - after several times when kneading a very tough dough, I overloaded the oven.

Although it is Panasonic who forgives a lot, which would not be forgiven by any other HP.

That is, as I understand it, the Panasonic motor connection diagram is the same on all stoves? (in principle, logical) And that apparently they did not fundamentally change anything? Well, maybe at least they put a solid-state condender? Nobody saw her from the inside? (Panasonic SD-2501WTS)

And then somehow I don't want to buy not cheap HP and every time the dough is kneaded for dumplings, I think that the next time the machine will interfere a little worse ...

Well, maybe at least they put a solid-state condender?

There is the most "solid-state" condender, with an organic dielectric lavsan type K73-11 and maybe metal-paper K42-11

From a pancake ... so aimed at Panas ... and here these condenders ... I don't want to refuse so ...

From a pancake ... so aimed at Panas ... and here these condenders ... I don't want to refuse so ...

Do you think in other HP the engine is started from a magic wand or it is of a collector type, so it is not much more reliable

From a pancake ... so aimed at Panas ... and here these condenders ... I don't want to refuse so ...

refuse ... try, for example, mulinexes, which break during the first year in every second, during the first couple of months in every fourth.

Why do you need a Panasonic, which has breakdowns after three years from the start of work in a fraction of one percent - it's so unreliable!

Got it. I order Panas tomorrow. Thank you.

The controller in the SD255 is manufactured by Panasonic MN15G1601JS1, which is typical for the company's datasheet products 🔗
Motor F54B4P45DHP 230 Volt 50 Hz

refuse ... try, for example, mulinexes, which break during the first year in every second, during the first couple of months in every fourth.

Why do you need a Panasonic, which has breakdowns after three years from the start of work in a fraction of one percent - it's so unreliable!

with your statistics and living is harmful

with your statistics and living is harmful

just about ... from this, they say, they die!

P.S. With statistics on moulinex, I may have gone through. But of the four stoves of this company, which my friends have and are actively used, one year passed the milestone without any problems.

Today I wanted to do prophylaxis for Panasonic who was three years old, having understood that there was nothing to prevent. I drew attention to the quality of manufacture of the engine and the agitator drive belt.The engine is wound exactly like in old Japanese SHARP copiers, the drive belt is thick reinforced with a cord (that's why the HP works quietly, the transmission is a belt and not gear wheels) .All mechanics are assembled on a rigid metal frame. There is no insulation in the HP !!! The buttons on the control panel are not a membrane, but micro buttons, the design of the buttons is clearly not Chinese, I have not seen such on sale.

Interestingly, new ones with the same quality are released

With statistics on moulinex, I may have gone through. But of the four stoves of this company, which my friends have and are actively used, one year passed the milestone without any problems.
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Good is not cheap. The joy of the low price lasts much less than the disappointment of the low quality. The main thing is not to break down near the store counter.
Yes, we pay for the brand. But Moulinex is also a brand, and besides, not handicraft.

Dachshunds here are talking about PANASONIKI.

refuse ... try, for example, mulinexes, which break during the first year in every second, during the first couple of months in every fourth.

Why do you need a Panasonic, which has breakdowns after three years from the start of work in a fraction of one percent - it's so unreliable!

So after all, I'm just the same for Panasonic. I have 2501. And I answered the above conversation.

understandably

Good day! What to do? Bread maker 2501 is not even a month old, and the spatula begins to crawl. The service said that this is not a warranty case. The new one costs 750 rubles. Where can you go for help?

Good day! What to do? Bread maker 2501 is not even a month old, and the spatula begins to crawl. The service said that this is not a warranty case. The new one costs 750 rubles. Where can you go for help?

Use further without paying attention to it, because soon the bucket will be scratched

Good day! What to do? Bread maker 2501 is not even a month old, and the spatula begins to crawl. The service said that this is not a warranty case. The new one costs 750 rubles. Where can you go for help?

There have been reports of bent paddles for rye bread. So even on the bent, the coating remained normal, but so that the coating peeled off ... One can only sympathize. I think it's just a defective blade, maybe I should send a letter to the Panasonic representative.

Or maybe some more abrasive ingredients were used?

Or maybe some more abrasive ingredients were used?

Prepared according to the main recipe, milk bread, rye on kvass. Caraway seeds can?

and the scapula begins to climb.

Climbs in the sense of being scratched or like a husk from seeds?

Climbs in the sense of being scratched or like a husk from seeds?

on the edge on the right will climb the husk is not visible, probably already ate :)