Multi-cooker-pressure cooker-slow cooker Steba DD2 / DD2 XL

I already ordered a non-stick bowl

oo, I need it too
I am strenuously saving up bonuses thanks to the savings, they are accepted on ozone
already saved up a couple of times, but then mom needs a new phone, then the child))) and spent everything)))
but somehow it's a pity to give half the price of a multi for a bowl

Good evening everyone.
Tell me the cons of this multicooker, what should you pay attention to?
There is no multicooker in the family, now we are thinking of buying it, I originally wanted a Panasonic (I really trust this brand in terms of kitchen appliances), but now the eye caught the banter. Also, if someone is from Ukraine, tell me an acceptable price for it?

Tell me the cons of this multicooker

What are these disadvantages? I'd better tell you more about the advantages: easy to operate, responsible for the final result, you can buy a component.
Minuses?! Would be cheaper

What are these disadvantages ?! I'd better tell you more about the advantages: easy to operate, responsible for the final result, you can buy a component.
Minuses?! Would be cheaper

For the pros have already read)) Another would be to find where in Ukraine to buy it.

[Lanochka007]

Lanochka007, thanks for the support)) I danced from Mulinex-pressure cooker for two years. I bought two of them, I could not understand WHERE I need him more at home or in the country, there I need to quickly cook meat, and there it is necessary to sterilize the banks, in general, I went according to the principle when it is difficult to choose, take two))))))
Now I will fall in love with a new girlfriend, especially 320 pages of support and a half-forum here

[Vadim_Ukraine]

Vadim_Ukraine, here is Tanyusha Mona1 writes

oops, the information doesn't suit you)))

[Vadim_Ukraine]

Vadim_Ukraine, cons, if you can call it that: if you cook by suppression, you can't see what is going on inside the multicooker.

[tana33]

tana33, Tan, that I am still (or already, or yet) not in Ukraine. We are still noname. This store does not send from us to Ukraine.

[Mona1]

Mona1, oh, Tan, exactly the same, I read Ukraine and that's it))))

I often cook yogurt in cups that come with the kit, and so: very inconvenient lids for the cups !!!
Would make this pimp on the lid somehow bigger, otherwise you just can't take it ... the lid.

[Natusichka]

Natusichka, You are from Ukraine! There, a higher comrade asked to tell where to buy Shtebu. Can you help?

I bought at the BigBit store, type in a search engine.

As for the cons. Fritters in it are inconvenient to fry, easier in a frying pan :)
In general, Shteba is smart and can do almost everything :)

I haven't thought of frying pancakes yet, but fried pies, well, very creditable !!!

Girls, well, you and inventors
I wouldn't even think that pies / pancakes in cartoons are fried

Natalia, my husband does not recognize others now! I used to like fried in a pan, now only Stebins!

[marinastom]

marinastom, Marina, how are they fundamentally different from those in the pan?)) Is there less oil or are they closer to baked ones?

Yeah, and less oil, and something in between fried and baked. I cook obliquely under the lid, about five minutes on each side. Try it, maybe you will like it.

Yeah, and less oil, and something in between fried and baked. I cook obliquely under the lid, about five minutes on each side. Try it, maybe you will like it.

A recipe for a guide, please?

What broth Stebochka cooked for me, lovely! I bought a beef stew, 2 packs of chicken stomachs and an hour for Meat. Only for the sake of this it was worthwhile for Steb to buy ...

[Prank]

Prank, and there is no recipe. Any pies with filling that you like fried, dazzle, give a little rise. I turn on the Fry for the entire 30 minutes. Put some oil on the bottom of the teflon bowl. I put the pies in the bowl, cover the lid obliquely and fry and bake for five minutes on each side.

[Prank]

Prank, and there is no recipe. Any pies with filling that you like fried, dazzle, give a little rise. I turn on the Fry for the entire 30 minutes. Put some oil on the bottom of the teflon bowl. I put the pies in the bowl, cover the lid obliquely and fry and bake for five minutes on each side.

Yes, the fact of the matter is that I myself have never made fried pies. And 30 minutes is combined with a coup? And they will probably fit a little and increase how many pieces can you safely put in order not to get an all-pie 6 pieces?

No, Nadia, 30 minutes is the total time. You can add it if necessary. I put in four, maximum five pies (more difficult to turn over), wait five minutes, turn over, five more minutes, take out. I'm laying down the next batch. Etc.

People, ayy!
Does anyone know if the heating can be turned on with a delay? I want to put a suvid so that I can get it in the morning and in the cold

Does anyone know if the heating can be turned on with a delay?

Tricky question

I don't know, but you try to turn it on, suddenly it works)

Yeah
What if it remains raw?
I will need a stock in the morning. I can only put it on at night. But soooo I don't want to break a dream, get up, deal with a cold shock ... And so I sleep a little

Yeah
What if it remains raw?
I will need a stock in the morning. I can only put it on at night. But soooo I don't want to break a dream, get up, deal with a cold shock ... And so I sleep a little

Nata, I cooked before bed ... and fell asleep
The meat was heated until the morning and everything worked out fine.

[Natusya]

Natusya, did you cook suvid?

Added on Tuesday 11 Oct 2016 11:35 PM

Even if I slow down ... the blonde however ...
Well, I can put a delay for a couple of minutes to check

[Nata,]

Well, I can put a delay for a couple of minutes to check

Nata, waiting for the result!

[No misters]

For DD1 - "Heating" is easily put on a delayed start, but for DD2 - I don't know, and even more so for DD2 XL, they also changed the firmware in new batches.
We are waiting for a report from No misters.

Hello! My pressure cooker was covered and I felt like no hands. I ran at a run to choose a new one, and since I had been looking towards Shteba for a long time, I decided to stop at it. Ozone has DD1 and DD2 on sale. I decided to stay at DD2. What can you tell me, what will be your advice?

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, a good choice!
I have DD1, I bought it for a long time, then there was no DD2 yet. Now I would gladly buy DD2 XL, because of the languor + and the size of the bowl (the XL has a bowl height of 16 cm and glass jars of 0.7 l stand up there quietly). It's a pity that now the Shteby are expensive, there used to be promotions, discounts ...

It's a pity that now the Shteby are expensive, there used to be promotions, discounts ...

Uh .. Why? This is only if you take a high one. When my first one died for no reason, no reason, I bought a second new one in Yulmart for 5800 last summer. Then I had it in the bookmarks for a long time, but the price did not change much - it grew slightly, then fell again to the previous one.
So we bought the first few years for the same money, if not even more expensive.

Now I would gladly buy DD2 XL, because of the languor + and the size of the bowl (the XL has a bowl height of 16 cm and glass jars of 0.7 l can easily stand there).

I didn't quite understand .. This size is already in the house, why another one? Then you have to take a six-liter one.

[Bijou]

BijouXL - this is a six-liter, although it fits much less under the eyeballs, just like DD1 and DD2 - as they say - 5 liters, but actually less. But all three have the same length-width, only in XL height 2-3 cm higher

Duc 700 ml jars in a simple one just fit perfectly, I always put yogurt in these. Two cartons of milk for three cans.
Then I don't understand anything at all.

[No misters]

For DD1 - "Heating" is easily put on a delayed start, but for DD2 - I don't know, and DD2 XL even more so, the firmware was changed there in new batches.
We are waiting for a report from No misters.

Nata, waiting for the result!

Sorry I forgot to tell you, everything works, delayed heating starts in my XL

[marinastom]

marinastom, and fry the pies in a Teflon pan on the frying program?

Added on Thursday, 13 October 2016, 15:56

I have already seen the answer. I'll have to try it sometime :)

Duc 700 ml jars in a simple one just fit perfectly, I always put yogurt in these. Two cartons of milk for three cans.
Then I don't understand anything at all.

I specifically went and double-checked ...
My cans are not exactly 0.7 liters, on the bottom there is 0.72 liters. Jar with a screw cap.
With the lid on the jar, plus a silicone mat on the bottom of the bowl, the Shteby lid (DD1, five-liter) does not close.
If my DD1 hopelessly broke down, I would definitely take the DD2 XL, 6-liter, for replacement. There the bowl is 2.5 cm higher.

marinastom, and fry the pies in a Teflon pan on the frying program?

I accidentally found yesterday a photo of frying in Shteba ... pancakes.) Not on the fry, but just 0.7. I have no idea why. In the crack under the lid, an even pretty thing looked out.))

With the lid on the jar, plus a silicone mat on the bottom of the bowl, the Shteby lid (DD1, five-liter) does not close.

I see ..)) I really don't remember where I sterilized such jars, perhaps in Panasonic, it's a little higher. Only I did not put silicone, but either a lattice, or a Teflon rug, it is quite thin like a rag.

I accidentally found yesterday a photo of frying in Shteba ... pancakes.) Not on the fry, but just 0.7. I have no idea why.

If the mode with a pressure of 0.7 is turned on with the lid open, the heating element will heat continuously at its full capacity, without receiving a signal from the pressure sensor, which turns it off. Equivalent to frying on a conventional 1 kW burner. Only now there is a risk of overheating and operation (burnout) of the thermal fuse inside the case. On Zharka, the heating element turns off after a certain temperature is set, it seems, 170 * C, just then Shteba begins to squeak.

well that's all, my agony of choice is over, I found it in the Eldorado at my side, only 100 rubles more expensive than ozone and no need to wait for delivery, thank you all, now I will often visit this topic, a lot of tips that will come in handy in the process of mastering.

[Alex_Fil]

Alex_Fil, but this should be checked on the second run.)) I have already forgotten all my crash tests ..
But not everything was as sad as in your retelling. Because there is no pressure sensor there and not even close.

found in Eldorado at my side, only 100 rubles more expensive than ozone

Congratulations!
And if you stick to the Eldorads, saying that it is cheaper on Ozone, give a discount. They write, they found it cheaper, we will refund the difference. Although, for a hundred rubles ... If only on principle ...

[Shtebovich]

But not everything was as sad as in your retelling. Because there is no pressure sensor there and not even close.

It's sad that they don't take my word for it and have to take pictures.
I have already shown the insides of my Shteba, in particular, thermal fuses, look under the spoiler in my post # 9123 14 Sep. 2016, 00:25
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=278949.0
The pressure sensor there also got into the frame, in the second photo from the left in the frame.
The vast majority of pressure cookers have a mechanical pressure sensor. This is a simple and very reliable device that allows you to maintain the desired pressure without complicating the electronic part of the device. In fact, this is just an opening and closing contact, which is triggered by the mechanical movement of its sensitive plate, which, in turn, rests on a rod, which is structurally connected to the heating element. When pressure is accumulated, the silicone O-ring expands between the lid and the bowl, like a wedge, forcing the lid to rise to a certain limit relative to the body. Further, the movement of the cover is interfered with by the body locks. Therefore, from the increasing pressure and wedging of the seal, the bowl and the heating element move.The ten in the body is not rigidly fixed, but has a flexible support, with the pressure of the bowl, the heating element moves downward relative to the body, and the support rod moves out of the body by a couple of millimeters, which leads to the opening of the contact on the pressure sensor (in the cold state, the contact is closed). This is a signal to turn off the ~ 220V power supply of the heating element in order to prevent further heating and an increase in temperature, and hence pressure. When the temperature drops a little, the pressure drops a little, the bowl and the heating element will move back a little, which will cause the contact to close and turn on the heating element.
To see the pressure sensor, it is enough to unscrew the two self-tapping screws at the bottom of the Shteba holding the metal plate and remove it. With a lot of curiosity, you can even, with an open plate at the bottom, turn on the pressure cooker with water to a program with pressure and observe how the support rod moves when pressure is accumulated and the pressure sensor contact is triggered.
Here are a couple more photos, in more detail.




The photo shows a pressure sensor, its plate rests on a rod coming from the heating element and two black wires of the sensor contact. Also visible is a thermal sensor and two blue wires coming from it.
If I confused something - let Shtebovich will correct me.

The ten in the body is not rigidly fixed, but has a flexible support, with the pressure of the bowl, the heating element moves downward relative to the body, and the support rod moves out of the body by a couple of millimeters, which leads to the opening of the contact on the pressure sensor (in the cold state, the contact is closed). This is a signal to turn off the ~ 220V power supply of the heating element in order to prevent further heating and an increase in temperature, and hence pressure. When the temperature drops a little, the pressure drops a little, the bowl and the heating element will move back a little, which will cause the contact to close and turn on the heating element.

With a lot of curiosity, you can even, with an open plate at the bottom, turn on the pressure cooker with water to a program with pressure and observe how the support rod moves when pressure is accumulated and the pressure sensor contact is triggered.

Hmm?
No, well, in principle there is a lot in the world, friend Horatio ...

But in fact, Shteba admirably knows how to maintain modes 0.3 and 0.7 with an open valve. And an open valve or a removed cover - there is no fundamental difference. And even under a completely "left" cover or without it at all, when a program with a pressure of 0.7 is installed, the mode turns on perfectly, which, it seems, should not be, if the above is mandatory. But I promise to clarify the quality of heating.

And for this sensor I can think of only one thing offhand - to make Shteba beep when the "Steam" program is running with a closed valve. Well, maybe something else, I have not thought about it yet.

Read carefully. In the cold, i.e. the initial state, the contacts of the sensor are closed, which does not interfere with turning on the power of the heating element on the program with pressure. Without a cover or with an open valve, the pressure sensor will not work, will not open the contacts, which can lead to excessive heating of the heating element far beyond 115 * C (the boiling point of water, which corresponds to an excess pressure of 0.7b).
On a program with a pressure of 0.3b, only the temperature sensor controls the heating of the bowl, the pressure sensor is not involved, since it is set to only one value, namely 0.7b.
There is no need to invent anything for yourself, I disassembled and saw the device not only of my multicooker and pressure cooker, believe me - this is exactly the pressure sensor, and it works exactly as I mentioned above. In one thing, you are right, it is the state of his contact (if it is suddenly open) that makes the Shteba peep when the Steam or Fry program is running, for example. That is, where there should be no pressure.

Read carefully.
...
On a program with a pressure of 0.3b, only the temperature sensor controls the heating of the bowl, the pressure sensor is not involved, since it is set to only one value, namely 0.7b.
There is no need to invent anything for yourself, I disassembled and saw the device not only of my multicooker and pressure cooker, believe me - this is a pressure sensor, and it works exactly as I mentioned above.One thing you are right

Give me a tooth?

So. Namba experience .. well, let it be once, because the episode is new.

We have fried potatoes in a frying pan and baked bread in Shtebe. We take out the bread, put some of the potatoes into the bowl, turn on the Porridge-0.7, put the lid aside. What is going to happen? If you read you carefully, then Shteba should turn on the heater and scald uncontrollably at full power to ... infinity, right? After all, there is no pressure, there is nothing to open the contacts.

What happens if you read Bijou carefully? That's right, one fine moment Shteba will start the same program and turn off the heater. Which actually happened. Seven minutes of the cartoon warmed up, then started the countdown of the program and turned off the heating element. I stayed in this state for about three minutes and turned on the heater again.

Bijou saw what she expected to see, turned off Shtebka, put all the potatoes back into the pan, filled it with fried mushrooms and went to the computer for supper and write a report.

Your move, sir. ))

If you read you carefully, then Shteba should turn on the heater and scald uncontrollably at full power to ... infinity, right? After all, there is no pressure, there is nothing to open the contacts.

In pressure cookers, as devices of increased danger (temperature, pressure, the possibility of scalding), there are several degrees of protection. These are the steam release valve on the cover, temperature sensor, pressure sensor, thermal fuses. All of this together serves to protect against uncontrolled heating and the possibility of injury to the user.
Therefore, if the pressure sensor did not work, and the program was started with parameters 0.7b, then the temperature sensor eventually worked, so as not to bring to overheating and possible melting of thermal fuses.
At what temperature it works - I did not check whether it is necessary either to lean the temperature probe against the bottom of the bowl, or to look at the display, briefly switching to the Heating or Simmering program, where it is possible to spy on the readings of the temperature sensor.
Now, looking at night, I won't go to the kitchen to experiment. I will say one thing - a pressure sensor exists precisely for the regular execution of a program with pressure, that is, with a closed lid, a closed valve and liquid in the bowl. In extreme modes - frying potatoes or pancakes in a mode with pressure, it no longer fulfills its function - there is no pressure, the processes go the other way.

All of this together serves to protect against uncontrolled heating and the possibility of injury to the user.
Therefore, if the pressure sensor did not work, and the program was started with parameters 0.7b, then the temperature sensor eventually worked, so as not to bring the thermal fuses to overheating and possible melting.

Yeah ... that is, this should not look so categorical anymore?

If the mode with a pressure of 0.7 is turned on with the lid open, the heating element will heat continuously at its full capacity, without receiving a signal from the pressure sensor, which turns it off. Equivalent to frying on a conventional 1 kW burner. Only now there is a risk of overheating and operation (burnout) of the thermal fuse inside the case.

Yes, it’s not for nothing that I mentioned that it is necessary to find out in detail the behavior of the heater in different modes ... I have some suspicion that there may also be tied up for a while ... Then no sensors are taken into account at all. ((